There seem to be quite a few comments about the roundabout white car clip, people unsure if vehicles on the roundabout have priority over vehicles wanting to join. Maybe a vid on this would be a good idea??
I've been driving since 1973 and I'd say I wasn't a bad driver but the problem I have and always had is, "being grumpy" and that's when I lose concentration and make mistakes. Since watching these videos, I've learned to be a lot calmer and feel better for it.
Good to see Range Rover doing a compact vehicle to save valuable space on our congested roads Also good to see it being driven to the same standard as full size Range Rovers…MGIF
On the topic of impatience, I had a person at university tell me that the times that he's driven there in a rush, he's gotten there slower than when he's driven in a calm and orderly manner. It really shows how being in a rush only complicates things for both you (the driver) and others around you. Keep calm and be patient, God's in no hurry to get another soul.
I want a study of driving speeds. I’ve noticed over the last 5 that I get to places quicker and use less fuel when I drive at 20 and only get to 30 when the road ahead is clear of traffic and crossing / lights. It’s amazing. There seems to be a misconception that 20 will mean more fuel and worst traffic congestion but I think this is from people who tend to go straight to third gear and want to hit the speed limit as quickly as possible.
On a charity motorcycle ride from Jon O Groats to Lands End many years ago, we did a little experiment. We wondered if caning it actually made much of a difference over driving at a reasonable speed. So, some of us set off and stuck to the limit (motorway riding) and others decided to ride erm, spirited! The ones that rode spirited shot off and were quickly out of site, when they stopped for fuel they noticed that it was only 5 or so minutes before the rest caught up. This happened all the time and they noted that they could never really gain much ground because as soon as they stopped again the group would catch them up in what seemed like no time at all. They were concentrating 110% to ride quickly and manoeuvre around traffic and also could never maintain a constant speed due to that traffic; we just sat at a comfortable speed and went with the flow in a much more relaxed ride. We determined that it didn't seem worthwhile to put all the extra effort in to ride 10-20mph more for what little advantage you gained.
I do the same motorway journey 5 times a week. The number of times I see cars flying past me, then when I leave at the junction there is a roundabout with two lanes both going right (third exit) and I pass all those cars who are queued up in the right hand lane. Quite often there are 20+ cars in the right and I drive all the way up the left lane and end up behind 1 or 2 cars 😂 I assume that sometimes some of the other cars don’t even make it through the light change 🙈
@@RobJT I occasionally lightly beep at the ear people as they pass and then again when I pass them or pull up beside them just so they might figure it out. I think I might actually put something in my window to make my car stand out so that I don’t need to beep.
@@CraigNiel this was noticeable years ago with a motorcycle and scooter ride out. Scooters we’re a max of about 60mph but we’re too far behind after to 150 mile journey. We all just ride at a steady pace and didn’t stop for fuel as much.
No mention of that Audi driver @5:40 who was so impatient, that he went the wrong way round the mini-roundabout to pass a learner and then turned immediately right into the car park? I know that being the least patient Audi driver is a difficult challenge, but that's a very good effort given that those actions saved maybe 3-4 seconds.
Pupil was likely confused by who is classed as being on the right in this scenario. There are lots of mini-roundabouts where this seems ambiguous and I still don't know what I am missing.
@@matt6699 I am not sure what you mean as to who was on the right side. The Audi driver broke the law. You have to go round a mini-roundabout unless you have a long vehicle which cannot carry out the manoeuvre. This is not even one of those limp-wristed "should" rules, but a full-blooded "must" rule backed up by statute law. It is in rule 188, and there is no ambiguity involved.
Well said about being respectful Ashley when driving past the crematorium, really sensitively put. My condolences and heart go out to anybody unfortunate enough to go through a very painful time, I'm sure the people In your clip appreciated the way you drove past,and I for one respected your powerful words of advice in your clip.
I must say, Ashley, that your videos have been the most informative for me to improve my driving standards. I still don't think I'm the best road user but I like to think I have improved massively. You have presented so many things that are universal that it can be applied everywhere. Of course, your deadpan presentation and manner of speech is always entertaining.
The “Dangerous Person Driving” delivery driver was most likely holding his electronic delivery pad, showing where the next delivery is, how many items, etc. It is the modern equivalent of the delivery driver shuffling pieces of paper around while driving Not sure if they have a sat nav on there as well or if they have to rely upon local knowledge Either way, it shouldn’t be held while driving but we all know they have more deliveries to complete in the day than is possible if sticking to the rules. Something needs to change in that regard
As someone who has used those scanners before, sometimes they do have navigation, but that's often an extra service that's needed to be paid for so most companies don't. I had to use my own phone for navigation when I drove a van for deliveries. Which I set up before moving off and didn't touch while driving. Scanner was also down before I set off. It showed in how late back I was compared to everyone else but...legality and safety matters to me.
@@pelicanofpunishment6 Useful to know that some do have a navigation function. They always say every day is a learning day 👍 Nice to hear that there was at least one sensible delivery driver out there
@@smilerbob I try my best. I've moved on to trucks now (same company) and deliver to the ACTUAL delivery drivers these days. But still do my best to drive as well as I can. Even if the rules are slightly different (break times, tacho rules, driving hours, etc.)
That comment about the taxi reminds me of when I was having lessons. I was just coming up to a junction and slowed to a stop. My instructor says "it's okay to go", because the rest of the road is clear with the exception of a taxi letting out a passenger. I then pointed at the taxi (Audis, BMWs, Teslas, and taxis being the Fantastic Four) stopped at a corner and said "if I go, this areshole is going to take off and cut me off straight away", and sure enough he did a U-turn at a junction right in front of me without even looking. I tell friends you can't go wrong having low expectations of the Fantastic Four.
Back in August, it was forty years since passing my driving test. I still learn, most especially from these excellent videos. I have been a funeral driver in my time, and the impatience shown to us could be epic, and yet it is a journey we will all have to make in time. Keep 'em coming Ashley, thanks.
Another comment for you: vehicles over 7m in length here are allowed to straddle turn, using both lanes to ensure a safe corner. I was trained to be more into the right lane than the lorry at 8:26. The situation outside the crematorium reminded me a funeral I assisted with a number of years ago, where we have a queue 100+ vehicles going from the church to the cemetery, and kind people stopping to let us all past before proceeding.
There's no "7m" rule - any vehicle can take the road position they need to negotiate a corner, provided they do so safely. A car may need to do this to access a very narrow gateway that opens directly onto the road, for example.
@@JulianShagworthyThanks. My comment related to the situation in Australia. Here vehicles over 7m are allowed to straddle turn. Shorter vehicles are required to use one lane appropriate for the turn.
9:38 Thanks for commenting on the use of hazards. I have never liked them for this exact reason, and remember commenting to my instructor 20+ years ago, if you can only see half the car, how do you tell whether indicating, or hazards? They're even worse when using them while moving around an area likely to have pedestrians (open parking areas in fields, etc), as it hides what you're actually going to do!
yes I hate the way people incorrectly use hazards. Car manufacturer could help as well - many vehicles have the "pointing" indicators now days, but when you put the hazards on the indicators still "point" where as surely they should just flash, then people could tell the difference between an indicator and hazards when they can only see one indicator.
Love the micro Range Rover ... and I thought the point about how your pupil drove having an impact on how the guy behind drove, and how frustration leads to poor choices. Bit like the cyclist going through the red light going across the junction and onto the pavement the other side...not a glance sideways. Had the lights changed a little earlier...they could easily have been caught out. No point in providing advanced stop lines at red lights unless the cyclists actually stop at them as they are required to do. Look at more than the amber lights ...hell yes. I ride a motorcycle daily in London..and I watch for wheels steering, look at driver head direction in their mirrors, I watch parked cars for occupants. Cars road positioning...many things give clues as to what the driver is thinking well before they do it, and before they signal. It's easy to flick the indicator as you turn the wheel...and have the accident before the first blink of the amber light. .
Last clip, I’m always looking to see what the pedestrian wants to do at a junction that I wish to turn into. Had some not even bother to look which makes me happy to think I was thinking for them.
Even before the January 2022 changes I was always watching for pedestrians at junctions as so many are distracted (mobile phones, talking, watching a cloud in the sky that looks like a hedgehog) or they are crossing a road “that never has cars turning into it”. Like you I like to thinl I keep everyone safe as we all have somewhere to get to on our journey and I like to get there incident free
Ashley you know when you get a song and cannot get it out your head well thats your voice when I am driving and its a good thing love your uploads I have been driving for 58 years and there is always more to learn .
It happens a lot to me where the pedestrian just looks straight ahead, whilst crossing the junction in the end of the video. You just know they are going to do it when they walk in a trance like state approaching the junction. Get into the habit of looking all around when setting off at traffic lights, as people go through red lights all the time, especially e-scooters.
What makes you think pedestrians look anywhere? If you ride a bicycle you learn they don't look, but listen, and they spend the whole time in a trance ;P
"Using the internet without PIA is like leaving your phone unattended, everyone can sneak a peek at your notifications." Utter fiction, no different to "Using the road without Tinted Windows is like being naked in public, everyone can see what you had for breakfast." No, having or not having a final layer of encryption/tinting does not change the fact that people can't see into your stomach, it's encrypted/tinted by default... Much like how your notifications aren't just sitting there for people to see unless you're using PIA. PIA don't even include a qualification like 'a VPN service like PIA', you have to use PIA specifically or your notifications are just there in plaintext going over the internet with everyone that wants to watching?
7:30 The blue device may have been the custom tablet DPD uses to organise deliveries at the sharp end. It can, for example, accept recipients scribbling a signature on them, so it's a lot more robust than a typical phone or consumer tablet, and of course it'll be locked to the company apps. In all probability he was looking up the next address to go to - but that should be done before moving off, not while negotiating the junction!
When I find myself in a situation where I expect there to be pedestrians but I don't see any I'll be extra cautious. Are there really no pedestrians, or are they just not visible to me right now? Also, good to see you are teaching your students how driving too _slowly_ can also create a situation
Hi Ashley, The clip where you held back for the HGV turning Left and rightly so. Do you think it’s possible the Red Car that overtook was not necessarily being impatient, but not very observant as regards the situation ahead.
How would he have known that there's a gap that he can fit into, then? I would think that the presence of the gap between Ashley and the red light would be the hardest detail to spot in that situation.
What ive noticed happens is people still use hazard lights if they've got a car parked behind them especially if theres a row of parked cars. All i can see from behind is a right indicator, so naturally i think there pulling out. Worse if they're parked on a road when only 1 car can pass from both directions.
Regarding the roundabout clips, the Highway Code gives the following rules, "Look right well in advance and give priority to traffic approaching from the right", and "Be vigilant of other road users already on the roundabout." If a vehicle is already on the roundabout as you approach the roundabout markings in your approach lane, should you give way to that vehicle that has entered the roundabout from your left, or should they have waited for your arrival?
If you're approaching from their right, they need to wait if pulling out would impede you. The rule is that people from the right should get priority, not that it goes to the first person there. In a similar vein, you're expected to be wary of vehicles leaving driveways when driving down the road. That doesn't somehow mean that the person gets priority to reverse onto the main road in front of you. Sounds obvious, but that's the logic a lot of people argue when they insist it's "give way to whoever is at the roundabout first."
My understanding is you should also give way to people already on the roundabout. Mini roundabouts can be dangerous as one lane is often "straight" and drivers don't slow down- for example, you can see a car 10m away to your right which is usually enough time to go without an issue, but that's assuming people slow down on approach. I find a lot of them are poorly designed.
I think that one at the crematorium is a very complex situation I've looked on Google Maps and the only thing I could possibly think of with that bus driver is that your half road of the road is very wide so maybe the bus driver positioned that way to stop someone trying to overtake in that very busy area, maybe not I don't know it's very odd situation well handled.
5:11 the thing with the "give way to the right" really only works if it's for people at the junction already. The highway code needs updating for the amount of users on the road these days, and to account for these mini roundabouts where in busy times, you could be stuck for some time. He pulled out before you were at the junction and thus your right of way didn't exist as you aren't on the roundabout yet. Interpreting the high way code actually intends you to give way to people on the roundabout to the right, which again is why it's muddy with mini roundabouts and why people need to approach them at a reasonable speed. The other issue is, they accelerated slower than a dumper truck, and made that even more unnecessarily inconvenient for you. But in a classic sense of the code, they were on the roundabout before you and thus, now had a right of way for you to consider.
I've covered this before. Have a watch and learn. th-cam.com/video/eCJT82YeARQ/w-d-xo.html it's again another double edged protection part of the highway code. Very similar to a video, I produced recently on potential conflicts between cyclist continuing ahead and vehicles turning left with a signal on. People only take one part of legislation without looking at the whole situation.
Totally agree about the roundabout! ...Exactly how far away from the give-way line does someone on my right need to be before I give way to them? Ash was about 10-15 meters away before the Range Rover crossed his line... There's no recommendation in the HC on a specific distance, so how are you supposed to know?
@@squicker Well, that's is my issue... Why is it on the RR diver, who had two give-way lines between him and Ash... Ash should be prapared to stop at the Give-Way, not assume he has priority... The HC does not, as far as I'm aware, give priority to vehicles approaching the roundabout, over those already there... Its all very confusing.
@@kmcarchive8288 How far away someone on your right needs to be from the give-way line before you give way to them depends on how fast they're going, how fast you're going and the direction you intend to take. If pulling out is likely to make the vehicle approaching from your right have to take any evasive action, you wait.
thank-you Ashley for confirming my interpretation of the highway code, as I thought it is classed as failing on both parties if an accident had accured, the range rover for not allowing enough time/distance before pulling out, and yours for not giving way to traffic already using the round-about even if the Range Rover had allowed plenty of time before you getting to the round-about before pulling onto the round-about for your approach. glad we cleared that up.
11:10 what I do in this situation is assume they are walking straight across the junction. I will reduce my speed to a walking pace and keep well back. This allows any vehicles waiting to pull out and crucially, it avoids that moment if the pedestrian does look where they're unsure if I'm stopping for them, because I'm well back and it's obvious they have time to cross. It also means I don't have to beckon/wave them across as I really never want to do that. It should always be the pedestrian's decision to cross without any encouragement/pressure from a driver.
I would guess at 10:30 the bus was ahead of the cortège and pulled to the middle of the road to allow it to pass out of respect, instead of their big bus leading the cortège into the funeral home. You can see at the end of the clip in the reverse camera the bus had their 4 way flashers on. I seriously doubt a double decker bus would try overtake a funeral cortège.
Hi Ashley. In Australia priority at round-a-bouts is for people already in the round-a-bout, so the driver of the Land Rover would have been correct, though I agree with you that an approaching driver can avoid the problem with some anticipation and speed reduction.
@@I_EvoYep. Too many maintain their speed as they approach roundabouts, take a cursory glance to their right and continue driving - unless they are about to be hit by a juggernaut. Not correct.
In NSW Australia when roundabouts were first introduced it was as you say. You were allowed to get onto the roundabout in front of a fast idiot on your right. As long as you got there first the smash was his fault. However a few years later there was a change to the rule and an advertising campaign that said you had to give way to fast idiots approaching from the right even if they were not on the roundabout before you. I just tried to look up the rule but could not find it. So who knows what the rule is? IMO going in front of a fast idiot is dangerous driving so I would not do it.
Your point about the white Landrover at 5:02 would, unfortunately, be denied by a significant percentage of drivers who would claim that the Landrover was there first and so had priority. They will claim that it was on the roundabout, so the requirement to give way to vehicles on the roundabout would apply.
The relevant rule is rule 185 in the Highway Code: "give priority to traffic approaching from the right". There is no mention anywhere about being already on the roundabout, yet it seems to be a common misconception.
@@_Steven_S "watch out" is different to "give priority to". Obviously, once the white Land Rover was on the roundabout, Ashley's only choice is to give way, because the alternative is to crash. That doesn't mean the white Land Rover was right to enter the roundabout when it did.
Nice video ash. I’m glad you’ve highlighted the point at 5:06 a so many people seem to think whoever gets to the roundabout first has priority. Some very unique situations.
As far as I'm aware, whoever gets onto the roundabout first does have priority... Probably just me misunderstanding the highway code, but I don't see anything about giving way to vehicles approaching a roundabout when I'm already at the giveaway.
@@squicker Yes, there are no caveats, but "approaching from the right", & "approaching the roundabout from the right", are two different things... That's my point... If I'm confused about it, I can't be the only one.
@@kmcarchive8288 It's just approaching from your right, whether there's a roundabout (or anything else) between you and them or not. You judge the speed and distance of any traffic you see approaching from your right. If you can move out and complete your maneuver without forcing them to change their speed or direction to accommodate you, then you can go. If pulling out is likely to make the vehicle approaching from your right have to take any evasive action, you wait.
Although i think you should also look left to make sure traffic from the side road has given way to you. You should also drive around the circle but most drivers and buses ignore it.
@@kmcarchive8288 The HWC is very clear on this - give priority to traffic approaching from the right. It doesn't matter whether that traffic is on the roundabout or not. If it's approaching from the right, you give it priority.
Hi Ashley, for many years I have been becoming more and more familiar with drivers just following the car in front when the lights have changed, sometimes I can get in the way of one!, but only when I keep still until my light is actually green, going on the amber would be a bit too much!. I only do this when there really is room for them to stop and it is only to pass the message I can't be bothered to get cross about it, I have always thought it to be simple sheep-ness, following the car in front because that is easier than trying to work out what is going on. Now I see more of what you show here, that car was not following anyone!, maybe it is just the habit they are in or is it just bad training and lack of consideration?. That good point you make about seeing more than just the other car's indicators reminds me of the first bad car crash I had, it involved the car coming the other way turning right into an entrance as I came along and doing so without room for me to stop!, because there were six or seven men at the road side on a picket line the driver of the car waiting to cross was too busy looking at them to see me, I was able to hit the brakes quite quickly because as we approached I saw his right hand go over the steering wheel to start turning it as he moved!, this was enough to make me think he was going to get in my way!. Luckily although both vehicles were written off no-one was really hurt, I still remember the incredible noise of the crash!. Oh and only one of the bystanders actually witnessed the event!, he said that the first thing he heard was my tyres screeching before the car even moved!. Cheers, Richard.
10:40 I’m thinking the Funeral Cars may have got split at a junction, pulled over & the Bus driver had gone for an overtake when the hearse started to want to move off ? Only guesswork, but it looked a lot of vehicles. Good shout regarding being cautious around those locations, there is a similar situation in the area where I teach and people, quite understandably, are not always 100% switched on around that location.
What gets me is that at pedestrian crossings, where drivers must stop for pedestrians, pedestrians MUST also check that vehicles are stopping or have stopped for them before they cross the road but when they are crossing a junction and traffic is behind their shoulder, far too many don't even bother to look when crossing the road! Half the time they are looking at their phone...
Some junctions have lights that as soon as one turns red the others go orange, some of them I need to use regularly and constantly see folk going through on reds across traffic already started moving.
Hmmm 05:14 you were still pretty quick and got pretty close to the white range rover. So may not have been a non-event if the range rover needed to stop abruptly.
I mentioned it yesterday, but it fits better on this compilation, I saw a german badged car sitting parked up with its park anywhere lights active. which would be unremarkable except it was properly parked in a valid parking stall.
I once had to assess a taxi driver, who was applying for the post as a minibus driver. He drove all the way round the assessment route at 30mph (in a 20mph zone). With one hand on his knee. 😊
RE the clip at 5.10. The highway code states you give way to vehicles on the roundabout. You enetered and had to brake but they were there first. I think you wre in the wrong here as you were carrying more speed. It's why big roundabout are almost lethal as a cyclist as they expect right of way when you entered far earlier
I am afraid that is incorrect; traffic only has precedence (not "right of way") when coming from your right, so the cammer had precedence. The mistake is not in pulling out; I think there was enough clearance ahead of the cammer for that. The mistake was not putting one's foot down, which would have put them well ahead of the cammer.
On the topic of not looking before reversing. I dont know if in the UK the problem is the same but here in the Netherlands a lot of people start reversing without looking and get pissed if I start using the horn because they almost hit my car…
Could they perhaps be suffering from Nitrogen poisoning? I heard that too much Nitrogen is a big problem that the Netherlands government is finally getting serious about dealing with.
Things like that at 1:42 happen all the time when I'm in my lorry. People trying to get in front to exit onto a slip road instead of sitting behind. I had a guy risk it when the road went from two lanes to one only to then sit in front of me and barely made any progress at all.
I've spoke to that Range Rover Micra owner, I have the same car and its the same colour, I parked next to him once and he got confused thinking my car was his, he was wondering why it wouldnt open 😂 (I've also done this in same carpark with another blue micra 😂) x
Yes, I'd have waited for the walker to cross - but it's a common scenario that I'd probably have paid no attention towards, prior to the Highway Code changes.
The bus driver was clearly attempting to pass the five or so vehicles waiting to attend the next service who couldn't enter the site until the previous ones had exited, and since the first vehicle (hearse) was holding up the following vehicles the bus had a lot to pass, so when the hearse moved forward and the convoy followed, the bus could then move in to the correct lane all rather smoothly...
Serious? He accelerated away from the lights and kept right to pass the parked cars, then over to turn left at the next lights. And it was a non-event.
@@letter1014I think he definitely anticipated it happening however wanted to make a clip out of it so sped up and made it look like a bigger issue than it was. Very poor from him
@@Species1571 I disagree, you can hear the engine pick up the second he sees the car about to emerge. Judging by how he usually accelerates, from different clips, this was a lot harsher. Also if this was a non-event, it wouldn't have appeared in this video.
I loved the line, "This is not a near death experience". Many, many TH-cam videos are posted by people who believe that being forced to break slightly is basically the same as nearly being killed. A certain cyclist and radio presenter is particularly guilty here.
*brake slightly? in the US, being thwarted from pushing harder on the loud pedal is considered a life altering injury. to some of our cammers, just SEEING the rear lights of a vehicle ahead is traumatizing.
@@kenbrown2808 I've noticed in the US you have a real brake-checking problem as well. Two types of drivers, the ones who push the loud pedal and the ones who brake check and purposefully make bad situations worse. Unfortunately not enough who know how to share the roads safely.
@@Poodz_ the youtube videos make it look more pervasive than it is, but in all honesty, the thing that most distinguishes UK driving habits from US driving habits it not that you don't drive on the right side of the road - it's that you look at driving as a cooperative effort, while we look at it as a competition.
The white land rover on the roundabout incident. I always thought that you only had to give way to vehicles actually on the roundabout not speeding up to roundabout from another direction. You should have slowed a bit in anticipation of the land rover being on the roundabout first.
11:26 honestly I would have assumed he was crossing and just moving to the narrowest part of the road. Also I got to be honest and say I don't think the pedestrian did much wrong fi at all. they was going to cross and looking last second to make sure if it was safe. if you carried on they would likely have stopped. I think a lot of people do ten to do this when it is quiet. they assume it is safe to cross but are still ready to stop with the last second look.
Agreed. They quite evidently did the shoulder glance before committing to crossing, it's just that most of it was while they were out of view of the camera.
regarding the last clip, I always expect a pedestrian to step into the road without doing a shoulder check. it's much less trouble to err on the side of safety.
That first clip hardly even counts as going through late anymore. I've now had an instance of my light going green at a crossroads with a stream of cars still coming through on red from the other direction. The cars from the opposite direction were still coming through their red 8-10 seconds later when the light went back to amber in my direction, finally a bike came through behind them as it went red in my direction.
Anywhere in East Lancs that seems to be the norm. There seems to be an assumption that if you are in a line of cars, you are all entitled to keep going regardless of the red light. Four or five cars jumping the red, and even turning across the oncoming traffic stream is quite usual.
Hi Ashley, I would like some advise here on a road that is in your area that I drove down last month. The road from formby to Southport is a duel carriageway road with a normal speed limit of 60 mph. When I was driving to Southport last month (the weekend of the air show) there was a temporary speed limit of 20mph. Yes some of the road was being resurfaced but other parts were not but the limit was in force for the full length. I would like to know your view as to me 20mph on a duel carriageway is dangerous regardless of roadworks. I stuck to the limit not knowing the area and not sure if there was any speed cameras but a lot of people were not sticking to the limit and make me feel like I was a hazard on the road. What do you think?
At 5.08 Land Rover gets onto roundabout before you. I’m going to disagree with what you said about them giving way to you. If already on roundabout then they have priority over anyone not on roundabout , there are giveaway lines as you are approaching therefore it’s you that should giveaway to anyone approaching from right on roundabout.
In the clip at 8:57 you stopped to let the lorry out but behind you it was clear. Do you see any pros/cons to stopping to let someone out or is it better to continue driving so they pull out behind you given it's clear?
I take the same approach as you on the last incident with the pedestrian, but I wonder at their lack of self respect concerning their own safety. As you say too many just keep driving. I make eye contact as a pedestrian. I want to know which other side I am likely to get to.
Not sure if the laws are the same in the UK but I'm fairly sure it's illegal to break up a funeral procession in the US. It can make things a bit dicey in busier traffic if there are 5-10 cars that are all trying to move together
As the USA has 50 different states, all with different laws, there's no doubt some where it is, some where it is not. I rather doubt there's any federal legislation on the subject.
Correct, probably should have mentioned that I'm in California. Each states Dept. of Motor Vehicles (DMV) will set the rules off the road for each state. There are some rules such as speed limits that the Federal Goverment sets but the states do most of it@@TheEulerID
5:05 no problem with that emerge onto the mini-roundabout, they absolutely had priority to pull onto the roundabout as you had yet to reach the carriageway of the roundabout. If your approach speed towards the mini-roundabout is too fast (because you have very good visibility to your right), then that is your failure, not theirs.
No. The rule is "give priority to traffic approaching from your right" (rule 185). That's all traffic approaching from the right, not just traffic already on the roundabout. The white car should have given way to Ashley, but it didn't. There's two things you can do in that situation. One is slow down a little and let the white car clear your path (what Ashley does) and the other is to accelerate aggressively, sound your horn and send your clip into one of the dash cam channels. Ashley has done a whole video on giving priority at roundabouts. I think it was about a year ago. I recommend everybody to watch it to clear up the kinds of misconception that you have.
@@ashley_neal idiocy? It's the law! You are mis-communicating the legalities of mini-roundabout use. Just think about the consequences of what you are saying; if it truly is a case that priority to the right extends beyond the carriageway of the roundabout, then the faster you approached that mini-roundabout, the sooner you would get priority over the vehicle emerging. It's dangerous! It's also not just a case of 'who gets there first' that would also create a race condition as the simplistic 'priority to the right' does. It's priority to the right to vehicles circulating on the carriageway of the roundabout. What this means in practise, is you must give way to any vehicles coming around the roundabout, but also must be ready to yield to any that emerge ahead of you before you cross the line into the roundabout. This means you must slow right down to negotiate a mini-roundabout, as is intended, as they are often installed to act as a traffic calming measure at junctions that have a poor safety record. You make such a fuss about the advisory 'merge-in-turn' rule in the Highway Code. A mini-roundabout is essentially a legally enforced merge-in-turn.
4:58 and the white Land Rover - in other countries roundabouts have a general rule that in close situations the vehicle that entered the roundabout first has priority. In this clip the Land Rover was fully in the roundabout before Ashley even passed the white line, so I struggle to see what they done wrong. Is it a UK thing again?
@@I_Evo Did you listen to the rest of that sentence "Did you listen to the rest of the sentence? "...but they shouldn't do this at the expense of vehicles coming from the right hand side". He believes correctly that the Land Rover should have given way, but, since it didn't, he chose to fix the situation.
Basically it’s like entering a cross hatched yellow box…don’t enter it unless your exit is clear- or as Ashley puts it - not at the expense of other vehicles entering from the right. So the land rover did jump the gun - or misjudged how quickly the car in front would clear it’s path, as at Ashley’s initial approach speed the Land Rover would have been obstructing him. It’s a question of judging the flow of traffic, and trying to safely fit yourself into that flow. I haven’t driven anywhere but the UK, so I’m not too sure about this vehicles entering first having priority, sounds like a chaotic free for all to me, I think I’d have to see it in action to understand how that worked!
Would love tips for not checking my speedo constantly, my instructor never really pulled me up on this and now i constantly check 😬 i dont know if its too much cus i see everything and have good concentration i just wish i could feel it more instead of checking 😭
at 10:30 I actually think the bus driver saw the hearse behind and moved over to let the convoy through due to there being a bus stop just 50 meters ahead. They probably wanted to show respect by not being a nuisance. You can also see for a split second the bus had its right signal on before moving back into the correct lane.
No other road user to give way to, speed of approach extremely slow so guy behind works it all out and just shoots across overtaking by going around the mini roundabout the wrong way.
I give way to traffic already on the roundabout in complianbce with the regulations, not traffic approaching the roundabout from the right, unless to avoid a collision. I have no problem with the timing of the white car's entry to the roundabout. If the lorry didn't want a vehicle to his offside he could have moved further over. I don't think the driver of the red car held him up at all. Although only one car can do this.
So you ignore Highway code rule 185 then? Highway Code 185 When reaching the roundabout you should *give priority to traffic approaching from your right, unless directed otherwise by signs, road markings or traffic lights *check whether road markings allow you to enter the roundabout without giving way. If so, proceed, but still look to the right before joining *watch out for all other road users already on the roundabout; be aware they may not be signalling correctly or at all *look forward before moving off to make sure traffic in front has moved off.
@@ashley_neal Technically, the road markings at a roundabout mean give way to traffic on the roundabout, not approaching it, making it compliant with Rule 185. However, as a more practical answer, whoever drafted this rule appears to have intended to change the meaning in the regulation. I find applying the regulation rather than the HC rule maintains better flow through the roundabout. As shown in your video which you approached at a perfect speed, I think.
You need to apply both pieces of information. It's a double edged protection that means incident will only occur when both pieces of legislation/advice are ignored.
And how do DPD stay in business? I've seen so many complaints about them. Not about their driving, but just the fact that their delivery service is terrible. Delivering items to the wrong address, or just leaving packages on the sidewalk for anyone to pick up.
Big turn out at the funeral must of been popular. I think there was 2 reasons to hold back in the final left turn the pedestrian and the range rover turning right could of possibly cut through your path. 2 birds 1 stone situation.
That Audi at 5:40 is shocking. Doing that regardless is a bad move, but to a learner! And dangerous driving like that, just so you can get to, and then stop at, the next right turn. Mental.
Your mini roundabout section, the Land Rover driver did nothing wrong. Mini roundabouts are to be treated the same way as normal roundabouts. Give way to traffic on the island, not traffic “ half a mile from it”.
I don't think I'd have any real problem with the driving of the white car at 5.15. This comes from driving in Australia, where the law used to mandate both giving way to traffic coming from the right, and to traffic already in the roundabout, with there being no perceived contradiction. ("Give way to traffic coming from the right" has since been dropped) Since Ashley drove around the roundabout properly, there was really no danger of a collision unless he had deliberately sped up. My impression of the law at roundabouts, at least in Australia, is that it purposely creates a little bit of doubt about right of way in order to encourage caution. From an Australian perspective, Ashley just naturally fell into line behind the white car, with no harm or danger to anybody.
No mention of the dangerous bike manoeuvre in that initial clip. The Kia Taxi/PH driver should be reported, they should never be allowed to drive with such poor care and attention. Ashley, have you changed editing software or codec?? The scene changes are suddenly very jagged and "1980s" in the first half of the compilation; and the video quality seems noisier than normal.
5:18 definitely not a near death experience! So many other channels make their views from people who actively go out of their way to CAUSE issues, rather than avoid them 🙄🤦♂️
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There seem to be quite a few comments about the roundabout white car clip, people unsure if vehicles on the roundabout have priority over vehicles wanting to join. Maybe a vid on this would be a good idea??
I've been driving since 1973 and I'd say I wasn't a bad driver but the problem I have and always had is, "being grumpy" and that's when I lose concentration and make mistakes. Since watching these videos, I've learned to be a lot calmer and feel better for it.
Good to see Range Rover doing a compact vehicle to save valuable space on our congested roads
Also good to see it being driven to the same standard as full size Range Rovers…MGIF
if I heard correctly that the model name is "lycra" then that fits nicely with the driver driving like a lycra clad cyclist.
@@kenbrown2808 I thought that was the name given to a bike rack on a Micra? 😉
I never thought I'd see something worse than the Mondeo I once saw that had a Mustang logo stuck to the front grille.
@@matt821 Why would someone write off a Mondeo in that way? 🤢😉
@@smilerbob I know right! Nothing wrong with a Mondeo.
I'm glad Range Rover is making more city friendly cars, so nice of them to drop weight of their vehicle by 5 tons.
On the topic of impatience, I had a person at university tell me that the times that he's driven there in a rush, he's gotten there slower than when he's driven in a calm and orderly manner. It really shows how being in a rush only complicates things for both you (the driver) and others around you. Keep calm and be patient, God's in no hurry to get another soul.
I want a study of driving speeds. I’ve noticed over the last 5 that I get to places quicker and use less fuel when I drive at 20 and only get to 30 when the road ahead is clear of traffic and crossing / lights. It’s amazing. There seems to be a misconception that 20 will mean more fuel and worst traffic congestion but I think this is from people who tend to go straight to third gear and want to hit the speed limit as quickly as possible.
On a charity motorcycle ride from Jon O Groats to Lands End many years ago, we did a little experiment. We wondered if caning it actually made much of a difference over driving at a reasonable speed. So, some of us set off and stuck to the limit (motorway riding) and others decided to ride erm, spirited!
The ones that rode spirited shot off and were quickly out of site, when they stopped for fuel they noticed that it was only 5 or so minutes before the rest caught up. This happened all the time and they noted that they could never really gain much ground because as soon as they stopped again the group would catch them up in what seemed like no time at all. They were concentrating 110% to ride quickly and manoeuvre around traffic and also could never maintain a constant speed due to that traffic; we just sat at a comfortable speed and went with the flow in a much more relaxed ride.
We determined that it didn't seem worthwhile to put all the extra effort in to ride 10-20mph more for what little advantage you gained.
I do the same motorway journey 5 times a week. The number of times I see cars flying past me, then when I leave at the junction there is a roundabout with two lanes both going right (third exit) and I pass all those cars who are queued up in the right hand lane. Quite often there are 20+ cars in the right and I drive all the way up the left lane and end up behind 1 or 2 cars 😂 I assume that sometimes some of the other cars don’t even make it through the light change 🙈
@@RobJT I occasionally lightly beep at the ear people as they pass and then again when I pass them or pull up beside them just so they might figure it out. I think I might actually put something in my window to make my car stand out so that I don’t need to beep.
@@CraigNiel this was noticeable years ago with a motorcycle and scooter ride out. Scooters we’re a max of about 60mph but we’re too far behind after to 150 mile journey. We all just ride at a steady pace and didn’t stop for fuel as much.
No mention of that Audi driver @5:40 who was so impatient, that he went the wrong way round the mini-roundabout to pass a learner and then turned immediately right into the car park? I know that being the least patient Audi driver is a difficult challenge, but that's a very good effort given that those actions saved maybe 3-4 seconds.
The pupil was aware of the Audi, so it's more important to look at the cause so learning takes place.
Watch out there's an Audi about.
Pupil was likely confused by who is classed as being on the right in this scenario. There are lots of mini-roundabouts where this seems ambiguous and I still don't know what I am missing.
@@matt6699 I am not sure what you mean as to who was on the right side. The Audi driver broke the law. You have to go round a mini-roundabout unless you have a long vehicle which cannot carry out the manoeuvre. This is not even one of those limp-wristed "should" rules, but a full-blooded "must" rule backed up by statute law. It is in rule 188, and there is no ambiguity involved.
Commented on that as well - as an Audi driver, it's people like that creating the stereotype for everyone else.
Absolutely pointless doing that.
Well said about being respectful Ashley when driving past the crematorium, really sensitively put. My condolences and heart go out to anybody unfortunate enough to go through a very painful time, I'm sure the people In your clip appreciated the way you drove past,and I for one respected your powerful words of advice in your clip.
I must say, Ashley, that your videos have been the most informative for me to improve my driving standards. I still don't think I'm the best road user but I like to think I have improved massively. You have presented so many things that are universal that it can be applied everywhere. Of course, your deadpan presentation and manner of speech is always entertaining.
The “Dangerous Person Driving” delivery driver was most likely holding his electronic delivery pad, showing where the next delivery is, how many items, etc. It is the modern equivalent of the delivery driver shuffling pieces of paper around while driving
Not sure if they have a sat nav on there as well or if they have to rely upon local knowledge
Either way, it shouldn’t be held while driving but we all know they have more deliveries to complete in the day than is possible if sticking to the rules. Something needs to change in that regard
As someone who has used those scanners before, sometimes they do have navigation, but that's often an extra service that's needed to be paid for so most companies don't. I had to use my own phone for navigation when I drove a van for deliveries. Which I set up before moving off and didn't touch while driving. Scanner was also down before I set off. It showed in how late back I was compared to everyone else but...legality and safety matters to me.
@@pelicanofpunishment6 Useful to know that some do have a navigation function. They always say every day is a learning day 👍
Nice to hear that there was at least one sensible delivery driver out there
@@smilerbob I try my best. I've moved on to trucks now (same company) and deliver to the ACTUAL delivery drivers these days. But still do my best to drive as well as I can. Even if the rules are slightly different (break times, tacho rules, driving hours, etc.)
That comment about the taxi reminds me of when I was having lessons. I was just coming up to a junction and slowed to a stop. My instructor says "it's okay to go", because the rest of the road is clear with the exception of a taxi letting out a passenger. I then pointed at the taxi (Audis, BMWs, Teslas, and taxis being the Fantastic Four) stopped at a corner and said "if I go, this areshole is going to take off and cut me off straight away", and sure enough he did a U-turn at a junction right in front of me without even looking. I tell friends you can't go wrong having low expectations of the Fantastic Four.
Back in August, it was forty years since passing my driving test. I still learn, most especially from these excellent videos. I have been a funeral driver in my time, and the impatience shown to us could be epic, and yet it is a journey we will all have to make in time. Keep 'em coming Ashley, thanks.
Another comment for you: vehicles over 7m in length here are allowed to straddle turn, using both lanes to ensure a safe corner. I was trained to be more into the right lane than the lorry at 8:26. The situation outside the crematorium reminded me a funeral I assisted with a number of years ago, where we have a queue 100+ vehicles going from the church to the cemetery, and kind people stopping to let us all past before proceeding.
There's no "7m" rule - any vehicle can take the road position they need to negotiate a corner, provided they do so safely. A car may need to do this to access a very narrow gateway that opens directly onto the road, for example.
@@JulianShagworthyThanks. My comment related to the situation in Australia. Here vehicles over 7m are allowed to straddle turn. Shorter vehicles are required to use one lane appropriate for the turn.
9:38 Thanks for commenting on the use of hazards. I have never liked them for this exact reason, and remember commenting to my instructor 20+ years ago, if you can only see half the car, how do you tell whether indicating, or hazards?
They're even worse when using them while moving around an area likely to have pedestrians (open parking areas in fields, etc), as it hides what you're actually going to do!
yes I hate the way people incorrectly use hazards. Car manufacturer could help as well - many vehicles have the "pointing" indicators now days, but when you put the hazards on the indicators still "point" where as surely they should just flash, then people could tell the difference between an indicator and hazards when they can only see one indicator.
Must be not as up to date on cars as you thought Ash, thats part of the new hatchback range.
Love the micro Range Rover ... and I thought the point about how your pupil drove having an impact on how the guy behind drove, and how frustration leads to poor choices.
Bit like the cyclist going through the red light going across the junction and onto the pavement the other side...not a glance sideways. Had the lights changed a little earlier...they could easily have been caught out. No point in providing advanced stop lines at red lights unless the cyclists actually stop at them as they are required to do.
Look at more than the amber lights ...hell yes. I ride a motorcycle daily in London..and I watch for wheels steering, look at driver head direction in their mirrors, I watch parked cars for occupants. Cars road positioning...many things give clues as to what the driver is thinking well before they do it, and before they signal. It's easy to flick the indicator as you turn the wheel...and have the accident before the first blink of the amber light. .
Last clip, I’m always looking to see what the pedestrian wants to do at a junction that I wish to turn into. Had some not even bother to look which makes me happy to think I was thinking for them.
Even before the January 2022 changes I was always watching for pedestrians at junctions as so many are distracted (mobile phones, talking, watching a cloud in the sky that looks like a hedgehog) or they are crossing a road “that never has cars turning into it”. Like you I like to thinl I keep everyone safe as we all have somewhere to get to on our journey and I like to get there incident free
Ashley you know when you get a song and cannot get it out your head well thats your voice when I am driving and its a good thing love your uploads I have been driving for 58 years and there is always more to learn .
It happens a lot to me where the pedestrian just looks straight ahead, whilst crossing the junction in the end of the video.
You just know they are going to do it when they walk in a trance like state approaching the junction.
Get into the habit of looking all around when setting off at traffic lights, as people go through red lights all the time, especially e-scooters.
What makes you think pedestrians look anywhere? If you ride a bicycle you learn they don't look, but listen, and they spend the whole time in a trance ;P
"Using the internet without PIA is like leaving your phone unattended, everyone can sneak a peek at your notifications." Utter fiction, no different to "Using the road without Tinted Windows is like being naked in public, everyone can see what you had for breakfast." No, having or not having a final layer of encryption/tinting does not change the fact that people can't see into your stomach, it's encrypted/tinted by default... Much like how your notifications aren't just sitting there for people to see unless you're using PIA. PIA don't even include a qualification like 'a VPN service like PIA', you have to use PIA specifically or your notifications are just there in plaintext going over the internet with everyone that wants to watching?
Well done Ashley, even at 80 I'm still learning from your uploads!
You shouldn't be watching videos while driving, let alone doing 80.
That's good, very good! Greetings from Stockholm.
7:30 The blue device may have been the custom tablet DPD uses to organise deliveries at the sharp end. It can, for example, accept recipients scribbling a signature on them, so it's a lot more robust than a typical phone or consumer tablet, and of course it'll be locked to the company apps. In all probability he was looking up the next address to go to - but that should be done before moving off, not while negotiating the junction!
When I find myself in a situation where I expect there to be pedestrians but I don't see any I'll be extra cautious. Are there really no pedestrians, or are they just not visible to me right now?
Also, good to see you are teaching your students how driving too _slowly_ can also create a situation
1:07 "people will do anything not to walk". Yes, like doing driving lessons and tests.
Hi Ashley, The clip where you held back for the HGV turning Left and rightly so. Do you think it’s possible the Red Car that overtook was not necessarily being impatient, but not very observant as regards the situation ahead.
How would he have known that there's a gap that he can fit into, then? I would think that the presence of the gap between Ashley and the red light would be the hardest detail to spot in that situation.
What ive noticed happens is people still use hazard lights if they've got a car parked behind them especially if theres a row of parked cars. All i can see from behind is a right indicator, so naturally i think there pulling out. Worse if they're parked on a road when only 1 car can pass from both directions.
Regarding the roundabout clips, the Highway Code gives the following rules, "Look right well in advance and give priority to traffic approaching from the right", and "Be vigilant of other road users already on the roundabout." If a vehicle is already on the roundabout as you approach the roundabout markings in your approach lane, should you give way to that vehicle that has entered the roundabout from your left, or should they have waited for your arrival?
If you're approaching from their right, they need to wait if pulling out would impede you. The rule is that people from the right should get priority, not that it goes to the first person there.
In a similar vein, you're expected to be wary of vehicles leaving driveways when driving down the road. That doesn't somehow mean that the person gets priority to reverse onto the main road in front of you. Sounds obvious, but that's the logic a lot of people argue when they insist it's "give way to whoever is at the roundabout first."
My understanding is you should also give way to people already on the roundabout. Mini roundabouts can be dangerous as one lane is often "straight" and drivers don't slow down- for example, you can see a car 10m away to your right which is usually enough time to go without an issue, but that's assuming people slow down on approach. I find a lot of them are poorly designed.
6:57 So we have content corner and content crossroad! Its rare to have an issue from this direction tho.
I think that one at the crematorium is a very complex situation I've looked on Google Maps and the only thing I could possibly think of with that bus driver is that your half road of the road is very wide so maybe the bus driver positioned that way to stop someone trying to overtake in that very busy area, maybe not I don't know it's very odd situation well handled.
he was allowing the funeral cortege access to drive down the road, by siting centrally.
5:11 the thing with the "give way to the right" really only works if it's for people at the junction already.
The highway code needs updating for the amount of users on the road these days, and to account for these mini roundabouts where in busy times, you could be stuck for some time.
He pulled out before you were at the junction and thus your right of way didn't exist as you aren't on the roundabout yet.
Interpreting the high way code actually intends you to give way to people on the roundabout to the right, which again is why it's muddy with mini roundabouts and why people need to approach them at a reasonable speed.
The other issue is, they accelerated slower than a dumper truck, and made that even more unnecessarily inconvenient for you.
But in a classic sense of the code, they were on the roundabout before you and thus, now had a right of way for you to consider.
I've covered this before. Have a watch and learn. th-cam.com/video/eCJT82YeARQ/w-d-xo.html it's again another double edged protection part of the highway code. Very similar to a video, I produced recently on potential conflicts between cyclist continuing ahead and vehicles turning left with a signal on. People only take one part of legislation without looking at the whole situation.
Totally agree about the roundabout! ...Exactly how far away from the give-way line does someone on my right need to be before I give way to them? Ash was about 10-15 meters away before the Range Rover crossed his line... There's no recommendation in the HC on a specific distance, so how are you supposed to know?
@@squicker Well, that's is my issue... Why is it on the RR diver, who had two give-way lines between him and Ash... Ash should be prapared to stop at the Give-Way, not assume he has priority... The HC does not, as far as I'm aware, give priority to vehicles approaching the roundabout, over those already there... Its all very confusing.
@@kmcarchive8288 How far away someone on your right needs to be from the give-way line before you give way to them depends on how fast they're going, how fast you're going and the direction you intend to take. If pulling out is likely to make the vehicle approaching from your right have to take any evasive action, you wait.
thank-you Ashley for confirming my interpretation of the highway code, as I thought it is classed as failing on both parties if an accident had accured, the range rover for not allowing enough time/distance before pulling out, and yours for not giving way to traffic already using the round-about even if the Range Rover had allowed plenty of time before you getting to the round-about before pulling onto the round-about for your approach. glad we cleared that up.
11:10 what I do in this situation is assume they are walking straight across the junction. I will reduce my speed to a walking pace and keep well back. This allows any vehicles waiting to pull out and crucially, it avoids that moment if the pedestrian does look where they're unsure if I'm stopping for them, because I'm well back and it's obvious they have time to cross. It also means I don't have to beckon/wave them across as I really never want to do that. It should always be the pedestrian's decision to cross without any encouragement/pressure from a driver.
I would guess at 10:30 the bus was ahead of the cortège and pulled to the middle of the road to allow it to pass out of respect, instead of their big bus leading the cortège into the funeral home. You can see at the end of the clip in the reverse camera the bus had their 4 way flashers on. I seriously doubt a double decker bus would try overtake a funeral cortège.
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Hi Ashley. In Australia priority at round-a-bouts is for people already in the round-a-bout, so the driver of the Land Rover would have been correct, though I agree with you that an approaching driver can avoid the problem with some anticipation and speed reduction.
Same in the UK, no idea where he's pulled that one out from.🤷
@@I_EvoYep. Too many maintain their speed as they approach roundabouts, take a cursory glance to their right and continue driving - unless they are about to be hit by a juggernaut. Not correct.
In NSW Australia when roundabouts were first introduced it was as you say. You were allowed to get onto the roundabout in front of a fast idiot on your right. As long as you got there first the smash was his fault.
However a few years later there was a change to the rule and an advertising campaign that said you had to give way to fast idiots approaching from the right even if they were not on the roundabout before you.
I just tried to look up the rule but could not find it. So who knows what the rule is? IMO going in front of a fast idiot is dangerous driving so I would not do it.
Your point about the white Landrover at 5:02 would, unfortunately, be denied by a significant percentage of drivers who would claim that the Landrover was there first and so had priority.
They will claim that it was on the roundabout, so the requirement to give way to vehicles on the roundabout would apply.
The relevant rule is rule 185 in the Highway Code: "give priority to traffic approaching from the right". There is no mention anywhere about being already on the roundabout, yet it seems to be a common misconception.
@@jeremypnet two bullet points down from where your quote ended:
"watch out for all other road users already on the roundabout"
@@_Steven_S "watch out" is different to "give priority to". Obviously, once the white Land Rover was on the roundabout, Ashley's only choice is to give way, because the alternative is to crash. That doesn't mean the white Land Rover was right to enter the roundabout when it did.
Nice video ash. I’m glad you’ve highlighted the point at 5:06 a so many people seem to think whoever gets to the roundabout first has priority. Some very unique situations.
As far as I'm aware, whoever gets onto the roundabout first does have priority... Probably just me misunderstanding the highway code, but I don't see anything about giving way to vehicles approaching a roundabout when I'm already at the giveaway.
@@squicker Yes, there are no caveats, but "approaching from the right", & "approaching the roundabout from the right", are two different things... That's my point... If I'm confused about it, I can't be the only one.
@@kmcarchive8288 It's just approaching from your right, whether there's a roundabout (or anything else) between you and them or not. You judge the speed and distance of any traffic you see approaching from your right. If you can move out and complete your maneuver without forcing them to change their speed or direction to accommodate you, then you can go. If pulling out is likely to make the vehicle approaching from your right have to take any evasive action, you wait.
Although i think you should also look left to make sure traffic from the side road has given way to you. You should also drive around the circle but most drivers and buses ignore it.
@@kmcarchive8288 The HWC is very clear on this - give priority to traffic approaching from the right. It doesn't matter whether that traffic is on the roundabout or not. If it's approaching from the right, you give it priority.
Ive been watching your videos for a few months now to prepare for my test. and im glad to say that i have now passed!
5:55 I used to get confused about this because from your pov they are also on the right
Hi Ashley, for many years I have been becoming more and more familiar with drivers just following the car in front when the lights have changed, sometimes I can get in the way of one!, but only when I keep still until my light is actually green, going on the amber would be a bit too much!. I only do this when there really is room for them to stop and it is only to pass the message I can't be bothered to get cross about it, I have always thought it to be simple sheep-ness, following the car in front because that is easier than trying to work out what is going on. Now I see more of what you show here, that car was not following anyone!, maybe it is just the habit they are in or is it just bad training and lack of consideration?.
That good point you make about seeing more than just the other car's indicators reminds me of the first bad car crash I had, it involved the car coming the other way turning right into an entrance as I came along and doing so without room for me to stop!, because there were six or seven men at the road side on a picket line the driver of the car waiting to cross was too busy looking at them to see me, I was able to hit the brakes quite quickly because as we approached I saw his right hand go over the steering wheel to start turning it as he moved!, this was enough to make me think he was going to get in my way!. Luckily although both vehicles were written off no-one was really hurt, I still remember the incredible noise of the crash!. Oh and only one of the bystanders actually witnessed the event!, he said that the first thing he heard was my tyres screeching before the car even moved!.
Cheers, Richard.
10:40 I’m thinking the Funeral Cars may have got split at a junction, pulled over & the Bus driver had gone for an overtake when the hearse started to want to move off ? Only guesswork, but it looked a lot of vehicles.
Good shout regarding being cautious around those locations, there is a similar situation in the area where I teach and people, quite understandably, are not always 100% switched on around that location.
What gets me is that at pedestrian crossings, where drivers must stop for pedestrians, pedestrians MUST also check that vehicles are stopping or have stopped for them before they cross the road but when they are crossing a junction and traffic is behind their shoulder, far too many don't even bother to look when crossing the road! Half the time they are looking at their phone...
Some junctions have lights that as soon as one turns red the others go orange, some of them I need to use regularly and constantly see folk going through on reds across traffic already started moving.
Hmmm 05:14 you were still pretty quick and got pretty close to the white range rover. So may not have been a non-event if the range rover needed to stop abruptly.
I mentioned it yesterday, but it fits better on this compilation, I saw a german badged car sitting parked up with its park anywhere lights active. which would be unremarkable except it was properly parked in a valid parking stall.
The lorry turning left could have been more obvious about wanting the additional space by being further over and taking a more prominent position.
And in the end he didn't even use or need extra space.
Loved the voice over in the crematorium clip. Fantastic from yourself, Ashley.
Ashley the DPD clip, why do you indicate when no other vehicle is behind or in front of you.
I thought exactly the same. Maybe to avoid the controversy it causes on here.
I once had to assess a taxi driver, who was applying for the post as a minibus driver. He drove all the way round the assessment route at 30mph (in a 20mph zone). With one hand on his knee. 😊
RE the clip at 5.10. The highway code states you give way to vehicles on the roundabout. You enetered and had to brake but they were there first. I think you wre in the wrong here as you were carrying more speed. It's why big roundabout are almost lethal as a cyclist as they expect right of way when you entered far earlier
I am afraid that is incorrect; traffic only has precedence (not "right of way") when coming from your right, so the cammer had precedence. The mistake is not in pulling out; I think there was enough clearance ahead of the cammer for that. The mistake was not putting one's foot down, which would have put them well ahead of the cammer.
On the topic of not looking before reversing. I dont know if in the UK the problem is the same but here in the Netherlands a lot of people start reversing without looking and get pissed if I start using the horn because they almost hit my car…
Could they perhaps be suffering from Nitrogen poisoning? I heard that too much Nitrogen is a big problem that the Netherlands government is finally getting serious about dealing with.
Things like that at 1:42 happen all the time when I'm in my lorry. People trying to get in front to exit onto a slip road instead of sitting behind. I had a guy risk it when the road went from two lanes to one only to then sit in front of me and barely made any progress at all.
11.32. Brilliant, 👍👏👏👏
see the hazard, assess what’s is going to happen and slow down accordingly ready to react if the hazard situation changes
The Range Rover shrunk in the car wash 😂
They do recommend turning down to a 30 degree wash these days 🤣
Learning more with your great videos, assessment of your surroundings is so important.if you are not sure slow down or hold back.
I've spoke to that Range Rover Micra owner, I have the same car and its the same colour, I parked next to him once and he got confused thinking my car was his, he was wondering why it wouldnt open 😂 (I've also done this in same carpark with another blue micra 😂) x
Bet that was an interesting conversation
@@Interdimensional27 It was 🤣
You should be able to tell it's a Range over because it occupies two car park spaces ;P
I'm appalled at the state of the roads in your area, but this is true all over the UK, massive potholes which can be dangerous and expensive
Are they bad enough to make you change your vote?
5:05 Ashley! That's not a white Land Rover, that's a Nissan Micra Defender! The fact that you couldn't make out the distinct shape is apalling!
Thank you ashley..i am always learning from your channel.
Range Rovers look a lot smaller in video huh
Yes, I'd have waited for the walker to cross - but it's a common scenario that I'd probably have paid no attention towards, prior to the Highway Code changes.
The bus driver was clearly attempting to pass the five or so vehicles waiting to attend the next service who couldn't enter the site until the previous ones had exited, and since the first vehicle (hearse) was holding up the following vehicles the bus had a lot to pass, so when the hearse moved forward and the convoy followed, the bus could then move in to the correct lane all rather smoothly...
6:38 You clearly sped up and changed lanes to make it more of an issue there, contradicts what you usually say about making it a “non-event”
I thought that, completely contradicts what he said about ‘anticipation’.
Serious? He accelerated away from the lights and kept right to pass the parked cars, then over to turn left at the next lights. And it was a non-event.
@@letter1014I think he definitely anticipated it happening however wanted to make a clip out of it so sped up and made it look like a bigger issue than it was. Very poor from him
@@Species1571 I disagree, you can hear the engine pick up the second he sees the car about to emerge. Judging by how he usually accelerates, from different clips, this was a lot harsher. Also if this was a non-event, it wouldn't have appeared in this video.
I loved the line, "This is not a near death experience". Many, many TH-cam videos are posted by people who believe that being forced to break slightly is basically the same as nearly being killed. A certain cyclist and radio presenter is particularly guilty here.
*brake slightly? in the US, being thwarted from pushing harder on the loud pedal is considered a life altering injury. to some of our cammers, just SEEING the rear lights of a vehicle ahead is traumatizing.
@@kenbrown2808 I've noticed in the US you have a real brake-checking problem as well. Two types of drivers, the ones who push the loud pedal and the ones who brake check and purposefully make bad situations worse. Unfortunately not enough who know how to share the roads safely.
@@Poodz_ the youtube videos make it look more pervasive than it is, but in all honesty, the thing that most distinguishes UK driving habits from US driving habits it not that you don't drive on the right side of the road - it's that you look at driving as a cooperative effort, while we look at it as a competition.
The white land rover on the roundabout incident. I always thought that you only had to give way to vehicles actually on the roundabout not speeding up to roundabout from another direction. You should have slowed a bit in anticipation of the land rover being on the roundabout first.
11:26 honestly I would have assumed he was crossing and just moving to the narrowest part of the road. Also I got to be honest and say I don't think the pedestrian did much wrong fi at all. they was going to cross and looking last second to make sure if it was safe. if you carried on they would likely have stopped. I think a lot of people do ten to do this when it is quiet. they assume it is safe to cross but are still ready to stop with the last second look.
Agreed. They quite evidently did the shoulder glance before committing to crossing, it's just that most of it was while they were out of view of the camera.
regarding the last clip, I always expect a pedestrian to step into the road without doing a shoulder check. it's much less trouble to err on the side of safety.
That first clip hardly even counts as going through late anymore. I've now had an instance of my light going green at a crossroads with a stream of cars still coming through on red from the other direction. The cars from the opposite direction were still coming through their red 8-10 seconds later when the light went back to amber in my direction, finally a bike came through behind them as it went red in my direction.
Anywhere in East Lancs that seems to be the norm. There seems to be an assumption that if you are in a line of cars, you are all entitled to keep going regardless of the red light. Four or five cars jumping the red, and even turning across the oncoming traffic stream is quite usual.
Hi Ashley, I would like some advise here on a road that is in your area that I drove down last month. The road from formby to Southport is a duel carriageway road with a normal speed limit of 60 mph. When I was driving to Southport last month (the weekend of the air show) there was a temporary speed limit of 20mph. Yes some of the road was being resurfaced but other parts were not but the limit was in force for the full length. I would like to know your view as to me 20mph on a duel carriageway is dangerous regardless of roadworks. I stuck to the limit not knowing the area and not sure if there was any speed cameras but a lot of people were not sticking to the limit and make me feel like I was a hazard on the road. What do you think?
At 5.08 Land Rover gets onto roundabout before you. I’m going to disagree with what you said about them giving way to you. If already on roundabout then they have priority over anyone not on roundabout , there are giveaway lines as you are approaching therefore it’s you that should giveaway to anyone approaching from right on roundabout.
They weren't on the roundabout when they should have given priority to Ashley.
In the clip at 8:57 you stopped to let the lorry out but behind you it was clear. Do you see any pros/cons to stopping to let someone out or is it better to continue driving so they pull out behind you given it's clear?
I take the same approach as you on the last incident with the pedestrian, but I wonder at their lack of self respect concerning their own safety. As you say too many just keep driving. I make eye contact as a pedestrian. I want to know which other side I am likely to get to.
Not sure if the laws are the same in the UK but I'm fairly sure it's illegal to break up a funeral procession in the US. It can make things a bit dicey in busier traffic if there are 5-10 cars that are all trying to move together
There are no specific laws about it in the UK.
As the USA has 50 different states, all with different laws, there's no doubt some where it is, some where it is not. I rather doubt there's any federal legislation on the subject.
Correct, probably should have mentioned that I'm in California. Each states Dept. of Motor Vehicles (DMV) will set the rules off the road for each state. There are some rules such as speed limits that the Federal Goverment sets but the states do most of it@@TheEulerID
5:05 no problem with that emerge onto the mini-roundabout, they absolutely had priority to pull onto the roundabout as you had yet to reach the carriageway of the roundabout. If your approach speed towards the mini-roundabout is too fast (because you have very good visibility to your right), then that is your failure, not theirs.
Hear, hear
I'm going to use your idiocy to analyse a clip I have where a cyclist gets bonneted. Who gets there first is not how things work.
@@ashley_neal ‘Idiocy’, I expected better 😡
No. The rule is "give priority to traffic approaching from your right" (rule 185). That's all traffic approaching from the right, not just traffic already on the roundabout. The white car should have given way to Ashley, but it didn't. There's two things you can do in that situation. One is slow down a little and let the white car clear your path (what Ashley does) and the other is to accelerate aggressively, sound your horn and send your clip into one of the dash cam channels.
Ashley has done a whole video on giving priority at roundabouts. I think it was about a year ago. I recommend everybody to watch it to clear up the kinds of misconception that you have.
@@ashley_neal idiocy? It's the law! You are mis-communicating the legalities of mini-roundabout use. Just think about the consequences of what you are saying; if it truly is a case that priority to the right extends beyond the carriageway of the roundabout, then the faster you approached that mini-roundabout, the sooner you would get priority over the vehicle emerging. It's dangerous!
It's also not just a case of 'who gets there first' that would also create a race condition as the simplistic 'priority to the right' does.
It's priority to the right to vehicles circulating on the carriageway of the roundabout. What this means in practise, is you must give way to any vehicles coming around the roundabout, but also must be ready to yield to any that emerge ahead of you before you cross the line into the roundabout. This means you must slow right down to negotiate a mini-roundabout, as is intended, as they are often installed to act as a traffic calming measure at junctions that have a poor safety record.
You make such a fuss about the advisory 'merge-in-turn' rule in the Highway Code. A mini-roundabout is essentially a legally enforced merge-in-turn.
Can you report all those ace holes that you meet on a regular basis?
I suppose it’s a lot of extra work to do that after a long day etc.
1:44 range rover lmao the micra is more reliable than the entire fleet of range rover
4:58 and the white Land Rover - in other countries roundabouts have a general rule that in close situations the vehicle that entered the roundabout first has priority. In this clip the Land Rover was fully in the roundabout before Ashley even passed the white line, so I struggle to see what they done wrong. Is it a UK thing again?
You’re meant to give priority to vehicles ‘approaching from the right’ but in that case, the Land Rover did nothing really wrong.
The Land Rover wasn't already on the roundabout when it should have given priority to Ashley.
@@jeremypnetNope, in Ashley's own words "the Land Rover arrived and got onto the roundabout before I did".
@@I_Evo Did you listen to the rest of that sentence "Did you listen to the rest of the sentence? "...but they shouldn't do this at the expense of vehicles coming from the right hand side". He believes correctly that the Land Rover should have given way, but, since it didn't, he chose to fix the situation.
Basically it’s like entering a cross hatched yellow box…don’t enter it unless your exit is clear- or as Ashley puts it - not at the expense of other vehicles entering from the right. So the land rover did jump the gun - or misjudged how quickly the car in front would clear it’s path, as at Ashley’s initial approach speed the Land Rover would have been obstructing him. It’s a question of judging the flow of traffic, and trying to safely fit yourself into that flow.
I haven’t driven anywhere but the UK, so I’m not too sure about this vehicles entering first having priority, sounds like a chaotic free for all to me, I think I’d have to see it in action to understand how that worked!
I'm not sure people know that they're not meant to stop in the cycle area.
Would love tips for not checking my speedo constantly, my instructor never really pulled me up on this and now i constantly check 😬 i dont know if its too much cus i see everything and have good concentration i just wish i could feel it more instead of checking 😭
at 10:30 I actually think the bus driver saw the hearse behind and moved over to let the convoy through due to there being a bus stop just 50 meters ahead. They probably wanted to show respect by not being a nuisance. You can also see for a split second the bus had its right signal on before moving back into the correct lane.
No other road user to give way to, speed of approach extremely slow so guy behind works it all out and just shoots across overtaking by going around the mini roundabout the wrong way.
I give way to traffic already on the roundabout in complianbce with the regulations, not traffic approaching the roundabout from the right, unless to avoid a collision. I have no problem with the timing of the white car's entry to the roundabout. If the lorry didn't want a vehicle to his offside he could have moved further over. I don't think the driver of the red car held him up at all. Although only one car can do this.
So you ignore Highway code rule 185 then?
Highway Code 185
When reaching the roundabout you should
*give priority to traffic approaching from your right, unless directed otherwise by signs, road markings or traffic lights
*check whether road markings allow you to enter the roundabout without giving way. If so, proceed, but still look to the right before joining
*watch out for all other road users already on the roundabout; be aware they may not be signalling correctly or at all
*look forward before moving off to make sure traffic in front has moved off.
@@ashley_neal Technically, the road markings at a roundabout mean give way to traffic on the roundabout, not approaching it, making it compliant with Rule 185. However, as a more practical answer, whoever drafted this rule appears to have intended to change the meaning in the regulation. I find applying the regulation rather than the HC rule maintains better flow through the roundabout. As shown in your video which you approached at a perfect speed, I think.
You need to apply both pieces of information. It's a double edged protection that means incident will only occur when both pieces of legislation/advice are ignored.
Re the DPD local driver, he had a set of cards in his hand, the person more that likely was not in and he’s left a card the person where the parcel is
"Near death experience" isn't what you and the majority think it is. Another good vid Ashley.
And how do DPD stay in business? I've seen so many complaints about them. Not about their driving, but just the fact that their delivery service is terrible. Delivering items to the wrong address, or just leaving packages on the sidewalk for anyone to pick up.
Big turn out at the funeral must of been popular. I think there was 2 reasons to hold back in the final left turn the pedestrian and the range rover turning right could of possibly cut through your path. 2 birds 1 stone situation.
I thought parking even partly on a pavement meant a fine or even towing? What does Highway Code say Ashley?
What are the rules/guidance regarding passing on the left, for example 0:37?
That Audi at 5:40 is shocking. Doing that regardless is a bad move, but to a learner! And dangerous driving like that, just so you can get to, and then stop at, the next right turn. Mental.
Traffic lights aren't always timed correctly.
Man I really wish you were in an instructor here in London - you're a great teacher :)
1:46 hard to identify the vehicle not sure if it’s a Range Rover or Nissan Micra. 😅. The driving looked very close to Range Rover standards. 😅.
Your mini roundabout section, the Land Rover driver did nothing wrong. Mini roundabouts are to be treated the same way as normal roundabouts. Give way to traffic on the island, not traffic “ half a mile from it”.
The Audi at the roundabout was just blatantly impatient verging on reckless. They clearly have forgotten they were once a learner.
Hahaha I noticed the little thumbs up graphic was in the negative. Good touch Ashley.
I don't think I'd have any real problem with the driving of the white car at 5.15. This comes from driving in Australia, where the law used to mandate both giving way to traffic coming from the right, and to traffic already in the roundabout, with there being no perceived contradiction. ("Give way to traffic coming from the right" has since been dropped) Since Ashley drove around the roundabout properly, there was really no danger of a collision unless he had deliberately sped up. My impression of the law at roundabouts, at least in Australia, is that it purposely creates a little bit of doubt about right of way in order to encourage caution. From an Australian perspective, Ashley just naturally fell into line behind the white car, with no harm or danger to anybody.
No mention of the dangerous bike manoeuvre in that initial clip.
The Kia Taxi/PH driver should be reported, they should never be allowed to drive with such poor care and attention.
Ashley, have you changed editing software or codec?? The scene changes are suddenly very jagged and "1980s" in the first half of the compilation; and the video quality seems noisier than normal.
Thank you
5:18 definitely not a near death experience! So many other channels make their views from people who actively go out of their way to CAUSE issues, rather than avoid them 🙄🤦♂️
I'm not sure if that Micra's driving is worse or wearing a RR badge.
Was the red car turning right?