Norman History and Knights
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- We discuss how Vikings founded the Duchy of Normandy which came to rule England and developed a cavalry force known across Europe. The Normans and their Knights will be an invasion force that appears in the late game of Total War Sage: Thrones of Britannia.
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Documentary Credits:
Research: Invicta
Script: Invicta
Artwork: Osprey Publishing
Game: Total War Saga: Thrones of Britannia
Editing: Invicta
Music: Dreamnote Music
Literary Sources
-Viking Hersir 793-1066 AD by Mark Harrison (Osprey Publishing)
-Saxon, Viking and Norman by Terence Wise (Osprey Publishing)
I produced a quick history video on the Normans which make an appearance as a late game invading force in Thrones of Britannia. While not playable on the campaign you can command them in multiplayer. Hope you all didn't mind the more informal approach as I was pressed for time and couldn't develop a fully researched and developed script. Nonetheless this sort of format may be useful for making quick one off videos on the fly in the future so let me know if its something you enjoyed. Also please consider backing my Patreon with a buck or two as it really helps: www.patreon.com/InvictaHistory
Invicta Early Medieval British Isles is a treasure trove of potential content. Personally it's my favorite area of history. Please keep doing Thrones of Brittania-inspired videos like these, and I say don't be afraid to go beyond pure military history in favor of more sociopolitical or cultural topics. These factions are very very different afterall, and it can help communicate to people playing Thrones of Brittania that they aren't just different regions on the map or different units in battle.
Great video, what software do you use to make them?
that map of europ is so inacurate i have to give u a dislake for such a bad choice!
This one was done using PowerDirector its a mid tier video editor with simple but easy to use effects. For my higher production value videos I use Adobe AfterEffects
No norman campaign? :(
Interesting fact: the Frakinsh kingdoms needed a way to quickly react to Viking raids, so they started to employ massive amounts of cavalry, hence, the strong French cavalry tradition.
Acid Trip not true at all. The Vikings were not even a real threat, but more of a nuisance to the Franks. It was the Avars and later the Magyars who posed a real threat to them and the reason they developed a stronger cavalry. You can't fight horse archers and lancers with infantry.
@@decem_sagittae you are partly true :
- Avars were a threats but well before viking's raids age as Charlemagne led a successful campaign to destroy their kingdom.
- Magyar were a bigger threat, but essentially toward eastern franks, a separate kingdom after 845. Viking raided essentially the western kingdom (whose seacoast was much longer).
- countering ummayads raids and attacks was also a factor here.
@@decem_sagittae "you cant fight horse archers and lancers with infantry"
swiss pikemen and English Longbowmen: hold our beers
Alexander Probably the most uneducated comment in the thread. “Not a threat” yeah they just would give away part of their country to someone who’s not a threat lmfao.
Andrew Francisco Hughes English longbow men lol. More like stakes, mud, high ground ,guerrilla warfare, and more mud.
I'm from Sicily and moved to Denmark. I guess it was a call from my Viking Mother Land, LOL
Velkommen hjem;)
Watch true romance 😉😂✌️
Not until you go there with proper Norman Armours and the Banners of the Hautevilles
How is it?
Hey I just reached the same conclusion I'm Sicilian. it's said my family were norman knights I'm planning to visit.
Thanks for sharing this. I recently found out that I've descended from Normans. I originally thought I was part Irish, then I found out I'm part French, British, Irish, and even Finnish. And that my mother's maiden name, Lynch, is from a Hiberno-Norman family in Galway, Ireland. So I like this very much. Thanks again!
its crazy that i know about a lot of this history from playing games like crusader kings. it peaked my interest and i cant get enough. love learning about this time period!
The transition from wiking raider to norman knight/normand heavy cavalry happened as the wikings adapted frankish (aka "french") customs including the use of heavy cavalry and fortfying conquered occupied territory with castles .
The reason the Normans got cavalry is because the French had cavalry already. Vikings did not supplant the original Normans. Yes there was a migration but the vast majority of the population remained French. A knightly tradition was already present for the Norse nobility to adopt.
Historians,around the world disagree with you: plus.google.com/112864547723925272788/posts/idTB6fbaHpi
Cavalry is old, very old, the Romans had cavalry and even Celtic tribes had cavalry.
What I meant was that People have to stop thinking that the Norse completely supplanted the French in Normandy. They didn't have to "quickly adopt" French cavalry traditions because the majority of inhabitants of Normandy continued to be the same people who lived there before Rollo arrived. I know full well that cavalry has existed for millennia I'm just arguing again'st the video's point that the viking settlers got rid of everyone and then settled on a blank slate. This isn't a question of their own identity, it's the problem of people today assuming that the original inhabitants of the area disappeared just like how some people assume the Romano-Britons vanished when the Anglo-Saxons came to England.
Nowhere in this video does it say that the vikings got rid of everyone and settled on a blank slate.
cav was invented a LOONG time ago by the Iranian people in the Russian steps which is why horse archery was a big tradition in that region or in places were the immigrated to, Persians,Sakas,Huns,Mongols,Turks and even Chinese continued to use cav till the invention of gun powder.
I love that you have two comments telling you that the french did not invent cavalry. No where did you even imply that.
More Norman history please! I LOVE this period of history :D
Yep love the format great video
Haven't begun the video yet, but that is so cool how you re-crated a scene from the bayeux tapestry with total war assets :)
What you forgot to talk about is the fact that the rulers were from vikings descent, but most of their army was composed of "ethnic" french from normandy, that's how they adapted so fast their military ( cavalry etc...)
he said that at the beginning
Yeah and that would be helpful today for the "réimmigration prioritaire" ;)
lost me when you said from ''vikings descent'' as vikings was more or less a job then a people..
Doubtful. I lived in Normandy for a short while and the people there to this day look significantly different to those in the rest of France. Lots of blondes. It's pretty similar to how the English in many of the Northern counties look significantly different to those of the Southern. Obviously there has been a fair amount of mixing over the years, but even today you can see that the people there have a lot of Nordic in them, and as such I would imagine that the vast majority of them back then were of Viking descent.
`There are a fair bit of blondes in France as well. The Franks themselves were originally a Germanic tribe. The Normans mixed very fast in the local population.
NOTE: Normandy is NOT a playable faction in in the campaign. :(
Mcface Give modders time, I'm sure we'll see them playable in some form soon.
I bet its dlc
Because Normandy itself is not on the game map. They invade kind of like the Mongols in MTW 2
Mcface just play medieval II Total War
aint no Normans in MTW 2, only the kingdom of France
This video is perfectly timed! Reading Jack Ludlow’s “Warriors” right now, awesome video man.
I started writing out about their inheritance practices and then you got to it! Really comes out as one of their key sources of strength driving both their stability and their expansionism.
although I did not get it 100% right since a lot of people have pointed out that younger sons could in fact inherit but only what the father had gained through conquest I believe
Wow! Normans are awesome! Thank you for the video!
Fantastic video, Love the format
I love this format!!! Please do more videos like this. Cheers from canada
I have been subscribed for about a year and a half. I did not subscribe for historical videos, but i must admit they are my favorites. Please keep them coming!
well glad you enjoy, I've actually moved the bulk of my gaming content over to the 2nd channel if you are interested
Really, really great job! I really enjoyed this and learned some great nuggets. Researching my Lownd(e)s family from England who purportedly were originally William the Conquerer Normans. Head buried in books on subject but this was a great summary. Very interesting. Please do more!
Liked it. Lots of good tidbits of knowledge in there. Keep up the casual short ones.
That was very informative for such a short video, well done.
and at least 75% inaccurate !!!
I love the Normans! Great video! Also from what I understand due to the number of unlanded Norman sons who have too much martial prowress and not enough to do they got into trouble. The Crusades were a perfect answer as it provided a chance for glory, gold, land and an outlet for these unlanded fighting men. I might be wrong on this but it sounds right.
So concise yet detailed
great vid thanks keep em coming
This was a super awesome video!
I love the Normans, can't wait for this!
simplyuri not a playable faction
@@silliestsususagest3276 Actually, they built the White Tower (Tower of London), carried out the Domesday etc.
love the format
Awesome, video. I'm a history teacher and a avid gamer. I love the your use of total war games, and historical maps. Wish I had the time and aptitude to make videos like these. I'm definitely going to be using it in my classroom.
Ye, really like this format as it offers the opportunity to understand certain archetypes that'd present themselves behind the development of various factions throughout history and how they developed in the way they did thanks to the emergent qualities of their culture. :)
Neat one! Wouldn't mind more of these!
loved it
Keep doing videos like this, even start talking about other civilizations and cultures!
Holy shit dude, you are straight to the point. Extremely educational
You are by far the best Historical sight on youtube. No Propaganda. Brilliant work sir.
Thx for sharing love your vids
I quote Cambridge Medieval History: By the end of the reign of Richard I (year 996) the descendants of the original Norse settlers had become not only Christians but in all essentials Frenchmen. They had adopted the French language, French legal ideas, and French social customs, and had practically become merged with the Frankish orGallic population among whom they lived. (…)
That's not fully true, they were still special in of themselves.
what do you mean? Of course, all regions have different culture if you look at normandy, bretagne, langeudoc, toulouse, they are all french but have regional difference in culture, but it's the same for regions in England and Britain, or in Sweden where I live, But the biggest problem is that english people tend to have francophobia and they do not like the idea or accept the fact that not only where England invaded but also conquered by the french in 1066 with a big cultural impact that is present even today.
french language was not really existing at that time
@@Narjoso by a man that had viking ancestors
@@JJtoutcourt well, it was a very base version of (old) French, but apparently, the Norman's merged Norse and that old French, to have their own dialect. Which, in turn, influenced the Modern english language, which comes from old English (Anglo-Saxon, and probably some Danish) merged with Norman French.
Thanks for the videos, these add historical context that I think it's important for us to better understand the history. The NIKA riots was done amazingly. I still share that with folks.
Very interesting. I love the history of the Normans.
This was an awesome video bro. 👍
Another video added to favorites.
Very nice work !
So I'm studying history for my GCSEs and even though this isn't directly or at all related to the Edexcel spec, it was really useful. Thank you.
Yes - make more of these
Very good
I really liked this "casual" format of vid.
Very good, thanks!
Godamn Norman’s get out of my lands reee
Give back Sicily to the true inheritors of Rome, you filthy Norman Barbarians, REEEE
kek byzaboos get rekt
Hey, how do you make a Venetian Blind? You invite him to the Kommenine Court!
Sicily could not catch a break. You had Greeks, then Romans, Goths, Greeks again, Muslims, Normans, Germans, French, Spanish, French again, then finally back to Italy.
But maaaaaaam (Cartman voice)
Great video! Can’t wait to play thrones of Britannia
Great video
Hey Invicta, I'm working on something and these videos really help me out. Haven't gone through all your videos yet but can you also cover the Samurai, Ashigaru, and everything you do?
This was great!
This is awesome! subbed
Really enjoyed a little back light. Should do this with of the nations
This video rocked
great stuff - I heard the Norman knights were using stirrups when no one else they fought were. The stirrup gave power to their charge which made them feared throughout Europe.
Not true at all, others used stirrups WAY before the Normans.
Long live the Duchy of Apulia held by the Norman family of de Hauteville!
Well done!
Very good video.
real awesome thank you
This was pretty cool. Have you thought of doing a video on one of the Norman princess that forged one of their own kingdoms in depth? It somewhat correlates with crusaders establishing their own kingdoms.
Im a Normanophile, TELL ME!
One of HER own kingdoms.
Love your maps.
pls do a video about the BYZANTINE ARMY of BASIL II
The blind one?
More of this, put a bit more detail in it. Like 15m instead of 10 and i would be more than happy to watch all of it. Keep it up Invicta .
I give it a 5 out of 5. Keep up the good work.
Good one
Oakley, this free-flowing narration style sounds much better than the usual scripted ones (which is really my only complaint about the series, which is otherwise *superb* ). Try and do that for the next "Moments in History"!
Whoa! Awesome video, Invicta! It was really effective in conveying all the necessary knowledge about the Normans and their style of warfare. The only thing I would add is a little bit more depth to what their equipment and tactics were like. But other than that, great video. I hope you get to do more of these in the future. :)
Siegfried. Typically I like to go into way more depth and have more time to prepare a scripted message. This time around however I hadnt planned to do this episode in advance but still wanted to get something out for the Thrones embargo lifting thus the rushed production.
All the same, I'm happy to say you made a great job with this video. Congrats on that! Keep up the good work!
Love it!
A quick note:
Not sure about the normans specifically, but in general the scandinavian aproach to inheritance was not neccessarily Patrelinear Primogeniture (the practice of having the oldest son always inherit the entire estate), but rather a less law-bound "free" system in which the family patriarch could distribute the inheritance as he wished among his offspring (even amongst "ätteledda" adopted children). It is true that the most common result of this system was that the oldest son was the most likely to gain the whole estate, not in small part due to the dificulty with dividing single-household estates before the medieval "tegskifte" (have no good translation for this, but essentially the large agricultural shift in Europe from single household-farming to village collectives with communal grounds and advanced crop rotation system).
There are several documented cases in which family patriarchs divides his estate, or gives it solely to a woman, even though this was again, pretty uncommon.
I don't exactly know how inheritance worked in Normandy, but I do know that William I adopted primogeniture for England because he divided the English Earldoms into much smaller Norman Shires. England originally used Gavelkind, so all land was split between the sons of its previous owner. However with land being much smaller due to the land reforms Primogeniture (specifically male) was adopted so that land wouldn't keep splitting and splitting and splitting until 4 sons owned a field each.
Beautiful
Very nice
good history
This video explains my ancestry, thank you!
Normans were a combination of French already there (Normandy) and the Vikings. Their culture and the formidable military reputation reflects both influences. An important fact was that Normans had considerable automomy. My mum was Norman and she would speak of both influences. In 1204 France under Philip II would conquer Normandy and many Normans not already in England went. They essentially became English or French.
Are you from Normandie?
Good Video
Awesome European history lessons!😁👍
The Normans were absolute madlads... What they achieved was crazy.
8:00 - This sounds like the plot of a Mount and Blade campaign XD
They actually got normans in bannerlord, theyre called vlandians.
8:54 a norman noblemen talking to his guidance counselor 😂
I actually can't wait to get this game.
love the video dude fucking awsome!!
Nice maps!
Something IMPORTANT has been MISSED in this video. Odo of France (Eudes de France) succeeded in resisting Viking attacks (Rollo included) and saving Paris from 885 to 886. This more or less influenced Rollo’s decision to settle in Normandy.
1:48 is this a part of the bayeux tapistry on the right side? looks like it, I dont remember rollo being mentioned on the actual tapistry, though.
keep going dude! these new vids/content are abs killer. Big ups! Can't wait for what instore, always gets me so hyped when another one of these vids are released. Yeeeeeoooow! Esketit!
I found this extremely interesting as in doing my Ancestry I have traced it back to Norman’s The color of my family’s shield and sir coat was Green with a white rearing charger (Hoarse). Two of my Grandfathers were at Hastings and survived the Battle, one was given holdings in Wiltshire whilst the other was a sell sword ( mercenary) who later allied with Mary Queen of Scott’s. The Viking that I’m related to was a Eric the Stout. There was also a few things about Eric the Red in the notes. Again thank you.
I got Erik the red people that first settled Iceland the birka shield maiden and the vikings buried at Oxford
Yes! More Norman's! My ancestor was the cousin to William the conqueror. Also, I have lineage to De Clare family. The start of which was from the illegitimate child of Richard the fearless... just wanted to tel someone lol
LOL yes sure.
More history videos please.
another reason why mounted combat wasn't really popular with vikings was simply because norwegian terrain isn't very conducive to such combat.
very little steppe, a lot of mountains and forests.
The family of Rollo and of William thanks you!
Great!
very interesting
Yes it was fun. Thank you Sire.
I think what would be really nice is more historical explanations of the era surrounding Thrones of Britannia. I know a thing or two about the main conflict between the Saxons and Danes, but know next to nothing about what's going on in Scotland, Ireland, etc.
I am a descendant of Rollo aka Rolo the walker and William the Conqueror so thank you greatly for this video about my folk.☺
nice and smart for some people
hella dope
One note,
Norman's actually had a different stance on inheritance. Sons would actually split up whatever the father's Holdings were.
I was just listening to a history Doc that touched on that fact, and how it was different than the English tradition of just the oldest receiving everything..
This caused a stir when William the conquer died and his claim to England was up in the air for a bit there
More, more, more :)
I think you are one of the few military history vid makers who really know their stuff.
Is the image on the left at 1:45 an original picture?
Invictas turning Brit "bugger off"