Making Records with Eric Valentine - Episode 28 - Finishing The Control Room
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- In this episode, I show the final results of the acoustic treatment and discuss the final tweaks that were made. I also show all the materials and techniques for transforming everything to a more finished look.
The dark material around the screens and speakers makes a lot of sense and absolutely looks better. Just as the sand color tubes with the couches at the back of the room look coordinated. The way it is now the front looks like an unfinished patchwork.
Agreed
Dark disappears and light features things. I’d say it’s best to make absorption disappear. Go dark fabric.
yep, 2 tubes and all the flat panels. Dark. I agree
100% yes to the dark fabric 👍🏼
darker color for sure... what an amazing space. thanks for taking us along for the ride. living vicariously through this journey has been great. thank you.
Def make the front panels dark color
Thank you for involving us on this journey from when it started Eric.
Change it to dark grey for sure!
@@MrGeesbouerGrey for sure!!!! I was about to send you this video hahaha,look at you 🤣
Building my first semi legit studio. These tubes are a GAME CHANGER. THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR KNOWLEDGE 🙏🏿
Yes to the dark fabric. Good thinking.
Indeed! Go for the Grey! Eric, I would LOVE a T-Shirt depicting the before and after graphs of where you started and where you arrived! Congratulations!!! "Keep Doing That Voodoo That You Do!"
congrats on finishing the control room! looking forward to more production deconstructions 😍
Yes! I am excited to get back in to those videos!!
I absolutely LOVE the way you're not pushing your son into doing what you guys do, and letting him learn by exploration! This "unlearning" approach is what we did with our boys and they've completely DOMINATED in their respecive fields (older son in music and younger son in graphics, video and programming)
I think that dark gray would eliminate a little bit of distraction/visual clutter, and would effectively open up the space a bit. It wouldn’t be a massive difference, but worthwhile!
Your journey of building this room is amazing, this is probably the best studio-building documentary ever made, I learned so much. Thank you!
A big congrats to all that incredible effort you put in Eric 🎉… again your generous and discerning spirit is much appreciated over “hear”. I’ll take your learnings when I build. Thank you so much.
Eric, I also want to tell you your explanation for why you went down this path is so refreshing and relatable -
I relate to your videos, thought process and style in so many ways.
I want to say, the detail, and passion in which you explained at around 41:30
on why you went down this path on your own was completely real and inspiring!
Every Word, ment so much and I think it's a great lesson for anyone taking on any project..
Sometimes you just have to do it yourself, cover all the bases, just keep pushing till ya get there... and know you will get there...
Don't give up! At the end of the day you didn't have to depend on someone else.
You can keep track of the process and all your blood and sweat are in it!!!
Man that will just resonate even more from the final creation...
When you say how "some may call you a crazy person and you'll take all that, It's all good"
I want to be one to tell you that you're not crazy.
You Are totally inspiring, you're a hard-working genius!
A killer mixer, and all the time, energy and focus you have put into your projects have come back tenfold every time! ⭐
Thanks for all that you share with us! 🍻
I just love watching these videos Eric, thanks for being so thorough with your reasoning and explaining in such detail!
Amazing. Eric, can I suggest that you publish this for either AES or the Acoustical Society, or both? Because I work in acoustics, and I've never seen a more detailed and objectively measured exploration of controlling room modes. I think it would be super valuable info. Also I think the decision to stay rectangular is correct. There's basically no way to predict modes in a non-rectangular room (except perhaps now with Treble software) but you can (sort of) do it with simple shaped rooms. And you're absolutely correct, that so many high end control rooms have super uneven low-frequency sound fields.
thank you so much for sharing the whole process, your process ✨ so good to see and hear where patience, hard work and passion can lead!
This video was an amazing summary and chock full of great information. Everyone should save this video. Thanks, Eric.
Yes, go with the dark grey. And get some tape and pull out the dust cap on that speaker cone, it’s tweaking my OCD. “The illusion of a finished look”, my life’s philosophy.
The speaker is also bugging the hell out of me as well, gotta get that thing fixed ASAP!!!!
Congrats ! I didn't have any doubts that you're gonna get to that point seeing how determined you are. Big thanks for sharing ! I think I would go for the dark fabric around speakers and monitors too!
Erik. I really enjoyed these youtube videos of your journey. Your obsessive nature came through the whole story and I totally appreciated it. Some great information throughout.
Thank you for taking the time to do this. It's very informative and gives me some ideas on how I might solve some room acoustics issues as well.
This journey has been awesome to watch! I hope to get a full walkthrough of the studio once it's all complete!
As for the front wall fabric, my vote is stay with the contrast that's there, the current fabric contrasts so well against the mechanisms on the wall, it's nice.
Have a lovely day!
You're always passionate when you talk, but i think you are most passionate when you talk about; 1. Grace and how incredible she is 2. Acoustics and getting them right and im here for both of those things 🙌🏽
What an absolute joy to watch. Thank you for sharing!
That looks like an incredibly comfortable and cool room to work in. Amazing.
Another vote for darker at the front. I agree it'll make the screens a little easer to lock into! What an amazing space, thanks so much for putting in so much extra effort to bring us along with you on the journey. Can't wait to hear what you create in here! And definitely put me down for a workshop if you decide to do them!
Nothing but respect and admiration for you Eric! I like the fact that you look to achieve certain results and you don't stop until you get exactly what you want. If you need to fire up the old Singer sewing machine or split some big PVC tubing, Eric's going to find a way! Thank you for sharing all of this experience, lessons learned, and the fun of just getting to see the progress you've made...
thanks eric for this series and sharing your experience - your approach is absolutely amazing 🙂
What an amazing father you are. The wisdom to just let your son be who he wants to be.
just wanna say you're such an amazing dad, Eric!!!
Would be interesting to see a fuzz measure graph of what your cheap adam monitors sound like in such a well treated room
+1
FInally I watched ALL of the episodes, it is crazy how much knowledge you're sharing with us, thank you so so much! (and greetings from Avid!)
Great video!! Thank you for sharing!
can't even express how wonderful it's been that you've brought us all on this journey with you! I love the care you've given in replying to all the questions, including mine! And the way that you've passionately sunk all the time and work into testing all the treatments so that we don't have to, is such a service to the audio community! The only possible downside is that the cost of Tube Traps might go through the roof! lol. btw...my new favorite audiophile catchphrase is now "phasey disaster roller coaster ride of low frequency insanity" hahhahahaha!
Thank you for these videos; I made some serious upgrades to my studio and have reaped massive rewards. THANK YOU!
This is what I admire maybe most about you Eric. You cut through the shit / hype and get the facts of the matter in every aspect of sound. Thank you once again!
I also think the room looks great, certainly doesn’t have a mad scientist look. I’m still a little lost on the tube trap construction if you could do a detailed construction video. Glad you’re back Eric. Fingers crossed you get the call for Guns n Roses 🤞
I want to really thank you Mr. Valentine. You have really made a public service to all of us interested in acustics with your incredible journey documenting your progress. I really hope your facility will be operating to your liking and you will enjoy it even more.
Other then that personally i like more a brighter/whiter appearance to the room. But I guess what more important question is, while working, what comfortable and non distracting the different colors/shades are to you personally?
Thanks for documenting all this Eric👍
Great great stuff thanks for sharing
Eric-I have experience with the same situation with the screens and adding a dark background instead of the light beige I originally had...
And I tell ya, making everything dark around the screens really sets your focus at the screens and made a huge difference in my space and enjoying my screens and work flow.
As long as you have ample light sources to make up for the loss of reflection from the beige background you're good to go with the darker colors..
I hope you do it. Can't wait to see it. Congrats on getting to this stage. So happy you're happy!
It really looks awesome and You did so much work!!! s
S much of your energy is in that building already! -- Let the music flow 🎉🥳⭐️⭐️🍻🎶🎵☮️
What an accomplishment! Go with the dark fabric & thanks for sharing the process.
What a huge difference. Also voting for black on the front, but defer to Grace. Thanks for the whole journey!
so epic, thanks for bringing us along!!
stunning work man! Thank you for the updates!!
21:23 "I don't know... I just... It's a sickness" this made me LOL, I completely relate Eric :D
Very nice CR by the way. Thanks for sharing all this info. Cheers!
You’re nuts!!! Lol😂 thank you Eric for sharing your journey! ❤
Dark fabric in front for sure! That’ll tie things together really nicely
Congrats on the new band!!! Wow thats awesome! Just protect his ears!!
Amazing achievement, congrats Eric!
It looks super nice Eric! Hope you make tons of records in there!
I would say yes do it! It would obviously look cooler but I’ll give the feeling that the space is bigger. Go for it!
Awesome build! Tube traps for the win… congrats!!
Yes to the dark gray. Congrats on finishing the room (ish)!
you could try to pull out the right cone with a vacuum, it worked with the atc in my studio, no damage!
Looks great and I bet it sounds fantastic! Congrats
From the graph it looks like you're within +/-5db even without the eq, which is really really good. Such a pain in the ass trying to figure out where the weird nulls are coming from and how to fix them, but so satisfying when you do.
I vote dark gray for the front.
Amazing stuff Eric, very jealous of your amazing control room. I have videos from when I was your sons age that are exactly the same so funny!
Looks incredible!! The dark gray is a cool idea but I’m with you . Doesn’t really matter much. Looks great already!
Aesthetically, I agree that the front wall being covered in a grey fabric will help “blend” those utility panels and the screens.
FWIW, I think the room needs more contrast. It’s a little “one note” of light shades and yellow.
If the wood were walnut or darker, you’d have some nice, darker tones to contrast the sand fabric. The beige carpet is the outlier here for my taste. I’d pull that and make the carpet compliment the wood tones. So, you’d have the sand fabric, walnut wood, and a carpet color that complimented the wood tones. Perhaps a lighter, or medium grey tone.
That subjective fodder aside, it’s such a cool room concept, EV. You’re a master.
Yes! Definitely go with the darker fabric!
Totally vote for the dark fabric on those panels. I'd even consider wrappin the first couple tubes on the ceiling with the dark fabric to chill out the reflection from the monitors.
1,000,000% dark frame the screens. You will also be able to run screens at a lower brightness, easing eye-fatigue, if the y don't have to compete with the brighter surrounds...
Amazing transformation in the eleventh hour. Gorgeous now - although I'll always think fondly back to the "box of Tampons" look!
Congrats man....success.Now enjoy!
My vote goes for the dark fabric. Definitely.
Hi Eric. Calling from Oslo Mastering. Couldn't agree more about the thoughts of all the studio with big budgets sounds craps. I have done like you, did all by myself and it's one of best sounding rooms in the hole country. 8 hz to 23khz. But why not cover the hole wall with fabric? Then the tubes are behind the fabric and you have nice flat wall? Thanks for making these videos ❤
the dark grey would look awesome, you got my vote there eric
THE SHAGGS!!!!
Congratulations, Eric!
Definitely a fan of the dark material around the front of the room, however, if I can be a little OCD, don’t do the tubes. Just change the color from the outer perimeter of the speakers inward. In other words, leave the tubes on the outside edges of the speakers the original color, if that makes sense. I think this would give you a more “soffited” look.
Lastly, I can’t get over how good that little Ludwig kit sounds haha. So excited for you guys!
Thanks for letting us have a say!!
Darker colour around the front +1
Please, please, please keep making videos. Really looked forward to every new one.
Amazing journey!
We can only live in hope that we get a Slate VSX of Eric’s room 😂
Dark Gray in front, YES... For sure. Thanks for asking. Amazing journey.
Yes do the darker color! Also, do the whole room :D
I’d love to see the entire back wall the darker color. That would ROCK!
She's a Beauty! One in a Million rooms. 😀
Definitely do the grey at the front! 👌
+1 for the Grey. Will contrast nice with the wood frame around the rack space as well. Or you match the desktop colour to that sand colour and see how that feels.
I think you're a genius man!
My wife saw Grace recently at the Ryman.. She loved it.. Our neighbor is playing guitar with her..
i agree the beige is distracting. thanks for all you do!
thank you Eric, what you do is just invaluable and awesome! have you tried doing measurements in different positions in the room just to see if this flat curve is somewhat relevant?
thanks for sharing so much insight, I've also taken your approach to testing and listening, and now I have three giant tubes on my floor, these tubes have tubes in them, so big tube has six little tubes inside ;) oh and def go grey back wall.
I like the look of the tubes now that they’re covered, especially with the plywood wrap on every other one
@@evoltapyeh I'm into that, my tubes I have just needed a cloth wrap.
Dark fabric and never look back! I also let my little boy playing with the guitar, I tune it with an open tuning (open G usually) to make it more musical!
Hey Eric, looks fabulous as it is. The whole wall being black and dark grey could serve to close in the space. Anyway, whatever works for you is best
yes! absolutely...the darker grey would make everything gel better together!
Maaaaaaaaaaan, the darker fabric would look AWESOME (and definitely more forgiven to the eyes)
100% sold on making the front wall a darker color - I'd also say do it!
Tuning the guitar to a chord for the kids is so genius!
My daughter is 5 so I’m definitely trying that with her little guitar!
Side note, when talking about the unlistenable high end studios was the most heated I’ve ever seen Eric Valentine 😂
Dark grey fabric! Possibly also a big beige fabric over the back wall of tubes would look a lot cleaner, so it just looks like a solid surface
I would do the dark fabric for the front wall, black even. Beautiful room!
Dark material all the way 👍
the darker colour fabric is a good idea, go for it
looking great, congrats Eric ! I'm at the start of building a studio, and I'm tempted to leave the floor open between the speakers and me ( with a metal grid + cork, the sound will then cross the studs and rockwool into the basement) . It's a bold move, to NOT finish the hard floor structure, but basically it supresses the floor reflection in the low-end. I think Rue Boyer studio in Paris have pull that off as well. Have you ever seen that ? or anyone ? I am also curious to see your cork floor with good lighting!! pretty awesome choice. All the best music to you, in your new gorgeous space!
dark grey on the front for sure!
"He's into....Scooby Doo" haha. My vote goes for the dark grey.
I like the dark grey thing :)
Functionality of the lighter color around the screens may be appreciated with the contrast of a bright screen . Sometimes it wears on my eyes seeing really bright screens and and dark light absorbent material around the screens for 8-10 hours a day 5- 6 days a week. YMMV
Congrats on that 200 hz! im in a great control room now but have to move to a new studio in a few months and am nervous!
Have you measured the RT60 across the frequency range? Very curious where it ended up and your thoughts on ideal RT60 times for mixing music. Thanks for showing your process and congrats on being done the control room!
Yes to the front of the room in dark grey
Fantastic accomplishment Eric. Congratulations. I think the lower-contrast dark theme would tend to be easier on the eyes and reduce fatigue. Au revoir -Daniel (Paris)