The only time you have trouble selling anything is when you are asking more than something is worth. If the silver is properly priced or setup as an auction with no reserve and letting the market determine its value then I doubt there would be much of a problem.
Yeah, there are too many clickbait hungry silver pumpers. But they get way more views and earn way more money from their videos. That's the only reason!
This is intriguing, but I've realized this in my own life and have adjusted my stacking accordingly. The big bars really limit your' buyers. And weight is obviously an issue too. I'm shifting to gold personally. Great points made, thanks for keeping it real!
As a dealer, 100's and kilos fly out of my cases. In general these are well educated buyers that know exactly what they are doing. I deal with a wholesaler and not just kilos and 100's but 1,000's (Yes 1,000 oz bars) fly out of his warehouse. He has a shipment of 1,000 kilos coming in next week, they are all spoken for! I have watched guys walk in and do ratio trades and walk out with a 1,000 ounce gain, no money exchanged, it's impressive!
Only sell when the spot price is right i.e not right now. If you will need to cash your silver in the next 5 years you have no place buying it in the first place. See stacking as a savings account with harsh penalties for cashing in early. Only stack money you don’t need.
I hear people online saying coin shops often pay $.50-$2 under spot for large bars like 100oz. Seems like a bummer to pay a premium then get under spot selling. Maybe that's too low of a sell price to let a coin shop buy it from you though, idk, haven't tried it myself yet.
Thanks for the comment my friend. You are right, putting excessive hashtags or tags in the description is against the TOS but there is no defined threshold as to what is too many. If you look at nearly every channel out there they put similar amounts in their description boxes and I have been doing so for over 6 years without issue. I think its about being smart and not taking the michael.
I Agree with every word you said! I recently moved and really didn't realize how much volume of silver I had until I had to move it. I wish I would have concentrated a little more on gold. I never thought I'd get to the point where Volume/ Value was an issue but here I am.
Good food for thought. I have been heavy on junk silver for a few years now because I reasoned that what I was getting was silver in small weights of a known purity from a recognized mint that also had extra legal protection against counterfeiting. I cashed my big bars into junk, and I don't regret it now that the premium on junk is taking off.
Great advice BYB! I’m just starting out stacking gold & silver, plus buying some shares in gold & silver producers (and one or two gambles on explorers). This video has helped temper my selling expectations for future sales.
My largest coin is one 10 oz, the rest of my stack is one ounce and a few 2 oz coins. Large bars are hard to move. Trying to sell an entire stack in one shot would be challenging. I could unload my stack at a good price in a particular forum, if I wanted to do that. I stopped buying on Ebay because with fees, and taxes, it's not worth it.
You might be best putting them into a physical specialist auction. Some don't charge the seller commision & all the coin collectors & dealers are fighting over them in the same place. I often attend coin auctions & prices are normally pretty good.
I saw this one earlier today myself and i wish them the best of luck in selling, when you have metals of any amount its always very good to have some money stashed in a safe place for them unforeseen unexpected emergencies.
I’m guessing this is a UK seller. In the USA this wouldn’t be a problem at all moving that much silver. The larger buyers actually require larger volumes to get better pricing. They don’t want to just buy one tube of coins from you.
But how much would he have gotten from coin shops and coin stores or even dealers? Thanks for stopping by, which was your favourite bar of silver from this video?
As a newbie, my only real interest is gold, for the same reasons as BB pointed out (among others). STILL, I’m interested in collecting (not stacking) a little silver, so I have my eyes on high grade Morgan and Peace dollars, and a couple other old 90% silver coins to get that fix. Not tubes, just single coins.
That's what I did...ms65 peace dollars, ms 65 Morgan's, they cost a lot but they retain a lot and they sell private cos I'm not shipping out multiple thousands through the post, auction even.
All the silver on this table I have spent on one coin...a silver coin....but I believe that coin is less swappable then all that silver stack...one difference and maybe a show you could do, from silver one ounce to high premium silver coins...same for gold, bullion compared to premium gold historical coins...which is more likely to return profit over time or hold their wealth...Collectibles even high premium can drop like Chippendale furniture or oil paintings but so can bullion...a McLaren f1 which cost an amazing million dollars when released but now $15m is paid for them....then once an e type jag might sell for $25,000 but when the bubble burst it could be got for 1/3 of that...which is best to hold, an historical coin or a safe stacked with hu dress or thousands of rounds?.
I had a 100oz Engelhardt bar for a while and a RC kilo bar...but they were just holders of value, when good profit came along I sold them...big bars are bulk metal in my eyes, my 1803 half dollar is value in a coin, maybe that's the metal detectors in me, who screams when he finds a silver Rosie worth $2 after three weeks of hunting..lol.
Another option to sell your silver is to create your own website, build a low cost WIX website and add a shopping cart, paying for that would be cheaper than ebay fees and then tell everyone on forums that you are selling your stack and come take a look, they pay you direct. Would be a slower way of selling but a safe way of doing it and you take control.. I have always thought a great social media site would be a collectors specific one, something like facebook but it has collector catogories, so you go on, register but your details are anonymous, list all your coins, collectables etc, design the page with images displaying your stack for the world to see but with the added function that anyone can send you an offer for an item in your stack/collection, its not for sale but as they say everythings for sale at the right price, so if you see something you want in someone elses collection you can send them an offer to buy, they say yes or no, no counter offer or bartering and you cant list items for sale with prices, its not a selling site but would make a good social hobby place to visit. Image you wanted to buy a 1oz BYB bar, you type in the search bar and everyone that has one in their stack is shown and then you can send an offer to them 1 by one until someone says yes i will sell for that generous offer or you exhaust all of them and realise nobody would ever sell their BYB bar and your out of luck.... unless they would accept this offer.... everythings for sale at the right price lol.
It'll be a more precarious proposal coming from the buyer's point of view though as you're asking complete strangers to send you money without affording them any security / customer care / refund policy / PayPal etc in return.
I would disagree - maybe in the USA but in the UK it would be a nightmare of logistics and cost - not to mention you would not sell very much here in the UK.
Only recently began stacking silver, and one thing that really surprised me is this.... I can buy 1oz silver Britannica's, Maple's or Krugerrand's for around the same or cheaper than the equivalent weight in bars? To me this is really odd because; a) they are much more readily identified as genuine (security features etc.) b) much more acceptable as they come from government mints, and c) You can sell single ounces or 10 x 1oz silver much easier than a 10oz bar which is limited to only one set weight? I'm in the Euro zone but I don't think that should make any difference. Large bars may look "sexier" but unless there's a significant discount compared to the same weight in 1oz coins they can keep them as far as I'm concerned.
I'm fortunate enough to live near several local coin shops here in the States who actively an enthusiastically trade any common forms of gold or silver, bars included. What I have noticed, however, is that 10-oz bars seem to be the sweet spot for both the dealers and for their customers (with regard to liquidity and low premiums). I've found 10-oz, 5-oz, and 1-oz bars to be the most liquid, although most dealers are happy with kilo bars, too. One dealer is also fond of 100-oz bars and trades in them regularly, but those aren't my cup of tea. And yes, I too have found that eBay is garbage anymore for buying and especially for selling. I'm done with them. The rare time that I buy on eBay is when I'm dealing with a long-established seller (such as one of the big bullion sellers who also have an eBay store).
Seems to me as someone new to this that buying well recognized silver coins is the way to go. Up until you have enough staked to convert to 1oz Gold. Rise and repeat.
Unless you are really good at playing the ratios just save and buy the gold if that is your goal. It will cost you far less. If you are going to play the ratio, bars are your best bet due to the dollar or two below spot per ounce you will most likely get for the large bars is better then the $5-8 dollars per ounce over spot you spent on unrecoverable premiums on 1 oz coins and small bars.
Thanks for the real world advice. How do you buy and sell on the silver forum? What online platforms do you recommend doing this on, other than the silver forum?
Thanks, I'm not sure on the conversion, but I'm in his neighborhood. Bars are nice, I do have one 1000oz bar at brokers to flip. I used to like the Maples but the milk spots are terrible! Luckily I focused on Eagles, and 10oz bars, those fly on Ebay, decent margin, and no issue too large. My vendor also publishes 2 prices, one is what they buy for, the other is what they sell for, so package, ship, wait for wire transfer. Or, in the case of 62.5 LBS in their vault, it's just a call. Gold is not bad either, I prefer coins, but have some bars as well. I don't know his site, but there is a guy that calls 7 coin stores to see what they are buying for, some were 9 to 11 over spot on Eagles, others tried to steal it. What's happened is the mint must buy at spot, Sunshine Mines, and the other 3 mines, have figured out people will give them more than spot, leaving fewer 2022 Eagles. Just grabbed 10-10 oz Sunshine bars, premium was $10 over the lowest ones. But people aren't that dumb, they will buy a Sunshine bar over other bars as well. Plus, you are correct, it gets cumbersome at these quantities, so I ordered a roll of AGE quarters too.
I try to keep a good relationship with the places I buy from, when going to sell I have only had issues with specialty rounds and such recouping premiums...that being said I've only had to sell a few thousand dollars worth at once so , mileage may vary...
I’m really interested in finding out the difference between US and Europe when it comes to stacking and selling. I plan to move to Europe within the next few years and hope to SLOWLY liquidate my humble collection of one once sovereigns that I own while enjoying retirement.
I was out of town for a conference and my wife decided to move in with her parents during that time. When she did, I felt so bad she had to move all our silver while pregnant! It wasn’t a lot! But enough to be concerned about a pregnant lady moving it. I decided to change some silver to gold and just concentrate a bit more gold.
Here in US, you can't sell on ebay without losing your @55. They charge sales tax to the buyer, and now we have to pay income taxes on our sales in addition to the fees. Not worth it.
I was thinking maybe the sellers best bet as much of a headache as it may be, try to utilize the silver gold ratio, and then he/she could potentially have an easier time offloading it
If I could do it all again I would definitely spend my hard earned on Gold 1oz coins. 1000ozs of silver coins is very very hard to store and the value of silver has dropped. Gold is definitely the way to go if your buying precious metals for the future Great video byb 👍🏻
For those sizes and the amount of silver the only ones you can sell right away are the big bullion dealers. You will get a price slightly less than spot price but that is what one is agreed to do with that size and amount of silver. I myself cannot hold that much silver, it is a pain to sell that size and that much. My direction is to obtain about 100 ounces of silver and anything more it is converted to gold. I plan to hold about 10 ounces of gold. More than that amount of gold I purchase real estate. That way I have easy ways to sell small amounts of silver or if I need a lump sum I sell some gold and if I need a lot I would sell my properties.
I agree with what you said. I Think I’m going to stop at 200 ounces of stacking silver. $200 face value of 90%. And the odd pieces I don’t think I can stop. Lol. But I’m not going to stop with gold. And I read a lot of the comments and replies so if you’re going to ask me what bar I like the most… I’d have to go with the…… ADC bar. Thank you for the video it was very helpful. 👍 Take care.
Call the local coin shops (LCS) in your area and ask them what their buyback practices are. Do they buyback using a weight threshold? Do they buyback with a sum total threshold? Do they have a specific type of silver they buy (e.g. coins vs. bars)? Knowing this in advance will help you create a liquidity strategy around your stacking. Cheers!
thank god it was only a few bucks but I had someone buy some of the newer US brass dollars on my eBay that I got from work it was $5 FV cost $2 to ship and as soon as it was delivered they requested a refund I fought it for a bit I wanted the coins back then they put up a dispute and eBay just wavered in their favor and I got a negative review now I want a minimum of 1000 reviews on an account before I even ship it, if you don't have it I cancel the order. fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me eBay.
Been saying that for years , and I've been ignored and insulted , it's big bulky hard to store , sell it's high premium/ tax and the charts don't lie despite what certain TH-camrs who have millions of subscribers own mines or distribution have been trying to falsely claim over the last decade .
I mean, its all about ad revenue, sponsorships and god awful self help guides and books that make these people do what they do. Also, the vast majority are just tinfoil hat wearing lunatics. All agenda driven.
It's good to have a little silver but I agree with the storage issues, plus the fact that you buy it at well over spot, may pay taxes depending on where you live. The price adds up. Then when you go to sell it you get beat up by LCS or have to chance being scammed online. When the price actually gets high enough to clear the premium and taxes, the market is saturated and you have to sell below spot to sell it before spot drops back down. People know $30 is expensive for silver and chances are it would be back below $25 in a matter of days so they stop buying and wait. Silver sucks as an investment period. A little for security against a dollar collapse but these people stacking thousands of ounces really doesn't make sense. Buy gold or land if you want something safe that you can liquidate quickly.
When I started stacking I thought about how to sell .. a coin shop is great if you have the right items ... stack as much differant silver products is best .. a lcs would love 32 differant coins rounds or small bars than a one kilo bar
What people fail to mention is the people you buy it from if you buy it from a reputable dealer you get a slip of paper that is its receipt and authentication so if you decide you need to sell it you turn around as long as you keep that receipt just like the grocery store you can sell it back to that company I've been buying from JM bullion for a few years now that's their policy as long as you have that receipt they will buy it back
Hit the nail on the head there... I think we'd all rather a kilo of gold than that much silver! nice gold bars , I wonder when the third in the series will be out , and will it be double sided ..or two different bars... hope people also realise , that their kids might not want the problem of getting rid of metal assets .. when they pass ..
With a kilo of gold you would almost 100% have to go to a dealer to cash out. No chance that a private seller worth his salt would buy a kilo gold bar from a car boot!
New to this Can anyone advise where I can get best price on gold coins. My gold is to get hold of coins with lowest premium that I can handle rather than just have them in a capsule? London based
I sold some gold today publicly for SPOT. I have some other gold available, £1695 for a 1 oz gold royal arms, if interested email byb@backyardbullion.com
You really don't want to sell large quantities at the same time due to taxes (the present laws) but there are metals dealers that will be happy to take them off your hands; the question is a what cost
You probably have to sell it in smaller sales I would take 4 or 5 for about 5 hundred a key but that's my limit now at one time. Good luck my friend. I may could take more anyway here I am I know you want to more but I am not rich
Amateurs sell metal, professionals trade Silver for other items of use or need. I have bought land, vehicles, and a very lucrative business here in Montana.
I have 10oz bars and smaller I have only 1 100oz and 4kilo bars the rest is smaller stuff as well as gold I have only a few 1oz mostly half 0z and under easier to move down the road
Yeah, feel like we do this once a year or so....... I love silver, it's beautiful and fun to get all those amazing options - and those (relatively) lower prices to Au per coin. But, it's darn near impossible to sell a lot easily - and it quickly gets very heavy and takes up too much room as it adds up. I too once had to get rid of nearly 1000oz. and it was no fun time... Never again. Sure, I keep a reasonable amount of ASE in case TSHTF....... but, otherwise it's Au all the way.......
It's a good idea to establish a seller presence on ebay. I started selling in the hopes of being a full-time seller, which didn't happen. But having a good Seller Rating with hundreds of sells and learning the ins and outs of ebay has been beneficial for offloading all kinds of things here and there. When I sold my father's stack, I got full retail. Just sell somethings that easy, like trading cards or something. Don't worry about making a profit at first, you're just trying to get your Seller Rating to at least 100 at 100%.
I'm starting to look at an eBay store. I'm finding that holding semi numismatics is less than ideal. Selling Libertads, for example, is trickier than buffalos since the big retailers offer only a buck or two over spot price. Local coin shops are a little better, maybe $5 or $6 over spot, but that's far less than the market value of Libertads. The only way to sell them is on eBay or to find a private buyer from elsewhere you can trust.
This guy's primary issue is that he refuses to break up the silver supply. That is an extremely lazy way of selling. Finding one buyer who will buy that much generic bars for their absurd demanding price is delusional. People who stack silver and gold to that extent are financially illiterate. Completely absurd.
Sadly with premiums and vat silver is not a good option at the moment. Gold will I think will continue to fall but recover over time so I'm looking at 1/4 1/2 1/10th s more and more
He is selling them in the wrong place. My coin shop is ALWAYS looking for supply...but stacking those large bars isn't helpful. American Eagles are in demand and when I go to my dealer they always ask me if I want to sell my Eagles. The answer is always NOPE.
Here in the US we don't have a tax on Silver so at least in my state so I look at it a little differently I do like silver coins over bars but if the opportunity arose to get 100 oz bar for a little over spot I would jump on it Wish he lived here in the US cuz I'd offer to buy a couple of bars off of him at $1.50 an ounce over spot
I really like Germania mint and that 100oz would look great next to my 10s and 5s of Germania bars but the gold bars are nice. I only have coins when it comes to gold.
I have the gen-2 sigma metalytics machine with the extra bullion wand that can test a 100oz bar..... if stacking big bars, this investment is a must IMO. Kilo bars are hot right now in the USA. Alot of dealers treat them like 10oz bars where 10 years ago they were treated like 100oz bars. If the seller is able to sell the bars at $1.59 an oz over spot like a couple of the big dealers i will buy a few....
Buy food, only a couple percent of people would ever want silver. Food, fuel, guns, ammo, seeds, tools....thats what people would want, silver can be used as money, but 98% of people would not want it in a shtf scenario
I would agree with you - but just how likely is a true SHTF scenario and if it happened would you even want to part with those things? Thanks for stopping by, which was your favourite bar of silver from this video?
I'm in New York, I can sell 95 kilos to a wholesaler in one day for hard cash, from $1 under spot to fifty cent over spot depending on the brand. I would bring 5 or 6 family members if I needed it in one day, if not, I would go to my wholesaler 6 days in a row because I don't want the transaction reported. He has to report it, if the sale is over $10,000. Bottom line is that it would be no problem selling even $100,000 in silver and he would give cash or check, or both if that's how you wanted it. Peace.
Umm when I buy silver bars or get junk silver from the goodwill and thrift stores and yard sells and melt it and make my own bullion rounds and bricks ECT I only expect to get the current value of it at that time per oz, even when I buy some beautiful name brand struck bars and other types of objects made out of silver for bullion I know going into it if I paid 3-8 percone over spot I don't expect to get my money back or make a profit because the price of silver fluctuates and it's only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Not saying I short my self and lose money but I don't have unreal expectations either. I just love the look of having a bunch of silver bullion in my safe and in chests full of it looks beautiful. I love unique designs like statues and balls and objects and ECT not just bars I have more cool object then I do bars cuse it's unique and fun to show ppl cuse bars are like okn cool bars but different objects friends that see it for first time spend a little more time looking at it all cuse of the shape they are like bullet shapes, statues,cars, baseballs footballs, airplanes, swords and knives and ECT all made of silver just in shape of those objects which makes it more fun then just bars.
This is kinda why I'm buying a whole bunch of 1 gram, 10gram and 20 gram bars. Yea they are really expensive. But I figure if you have a 100oz silver bar, your going to have to pay someone to melt it down, cast it and stamp it into a more reasonable currency. That anyone could use in practical ways. I have nothing bigger than a 1 oz bar. I figure if you need to make larger purchases, then use gold.
The only time you have trouble selling anything is when you are asking more than something is worth. If the silver is properly priced or setup as an auction with no reserve and letting the market determine its value then I doubt there would be much of a problem.
Thanks for sharing, I would agree!
Nah
This channel provides a nice balance to the silver cheerleading I see on most channels
Yeah, there are too many clickbait hungry silver pumpers. But they get way more views and earn way more money from their videos. That's the only reason!
This is intriguing, but I've realized this in my own life and have adjusted my stacking accordingly. The big bars really limit your' buyers. And weight is obviously an issue too. I'm shifting to gold personally. Great points made, thanks for keeping it real!
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You wont get spot for your gold. At least right now. Call around. Try selling a gold eagle.
@@nonyabizz3533 likely true but not necessarily
Gold for the win in the long run
Same
As a dealer, 100's and kilos fly out of my cases. In general these are well educated buyers that know exactly what they are doing. I deal with a wholesaler and not just kilos and 100's but 1,000's (Yes 1,000 oz bars) fly out of his warehouse. He has a shipment of 1,000 kilos coming in next week, they are all spoken for! I have watched guys walk in and do ratio trades and walk out with a 1,000 ounce gain, no money exchanged, it's impressive!
Only sell when the spot price is right i.e not right now. If you will need to cash your silver in the next 5 years you have no place buying it in the first place. See stacking as a savings account with harsh penalties for cashing in early. Only stack money you don’t need.
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I hear people online saying coin shops often pay $.50-$2 under spot for large bars like 100oz. Seems like a bummer to pay a premium then get under spot selling. Maybe that's too low of a sell price to let a coin shop buy it from you though, idk, haven't tried it myself yet.
I think it would be much easier in 1oz, 5oz, and 10oz bars. It's VERY difficult to sell £700-£750 blocks of metal during these times.
Thanks for the comment my friend.
You are right, putting excessive hashtags or tags in the description is against the TOS but there is no defined threshold as to what is too many. If you look at nearly every channel out there they put similar amounts in their description boxes and I have been doing so for over 6 years without issue. I think its about being smart and not taking the michael.
To me large bars are pointless. You may buy them cheaper by the gram but you also sell them cheaper too.
I Agree with every word you said! I recently moved and really didn't realize how much volume of silver I had until I had to move it. I wish I would have concentrated a little more on gold. I never thought I'd get to the point where Volume/ Value was an issue but here I am.
Thanks very much for sharing your thoughts and feedback!
It is a nice problem to have though. :D
Me too, but not a terrible problem.
Good food for thought. I have been heavy on junk silver for a few years now because I reasoned that what I was getting was silver in small weights of a known purity from a recognized mint that also had extra legal protection against counterfeiting. I cashed my big bars into junk, and I don't regret it now that the premium on junk is taking off.
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"Maybe some of you wonderful American viewers won't say it with quite so posh an accent but you get my point" lmao i love your videos
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Great advice BYB! I’m just starting out stacking gold & silver, plus buying some shares in gold & silver producers (and one or two gambles on explorers). This video has helped temper my selling expectations for future sales.
Great to hear, thanks for sharing and thanks for stopping by, which was your favourite bar of silver from this video?
Lots of good advice in this video. Always good to think of your exit strategy when it comes to silver.
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My largest coin is one 10 oz, the rest of my stack is one ounce and a few 2 oz coins.
Large bars are hard to move. Trying to sell an entire stack in one shot would be challenging.
I could unload my stack at a good price in a particular forum, if I wanted to do that.
I stopped buying on Ebay because with fees, and taxes, it's not worth it.
You might be best putting them into a physical specialist auction. Some don't charge the seller commision & all the coin collectors & dealers are fighting over them in the same place. I often attend coin auctions & prices are normally pretty good.
I saw this one earlier today myself and i wish them the best of luck in selling, when you have metals of any amount its always very good to have some money stashed in a safe place for them unforeseen unexpected emergencies.
Fingers crossed!
Great video, fun chatting with you.
You too!!
I only buy 1 Oz rounds I did buy a 5 Oz bar once because that is all my LCS had
I’m guessing this is a UK seller. In the USA this wouldn’t be a problem at all moving that much silver. The larger buyers actually require larger volumes to get better pricing. They don’t want to just buy one tube of coins from you.
But how much would he have gotten from coin shops and coin stores or even dealers? Thanks for stopping by, which was your favourite bar of silver from this video?
As a newbie, my only real interest is gold, for the same reasons as BB pointed out (among others). STILL, I’m interested in collecting (not stacking) a little silver, so I have my eyes on high grade Morgan and Peace dollars, and a couple other old 90% silver coins to get that fix. Not tubes, just single coins.
That's what I did...ms65 peace dollars, ms 65 Morgan's, they cost a lot but they retain a lot and they sell private cos I'm not shipping out multiple thousands through the post, auction even.
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Agreed. I will also be focusing on gold in 2023.
Great vid!
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All the silver on this table I have spent on one coin...a silver coin....but I believe that coin is less swappable then all that silver stack...one difference and maybe a show you could do, from silver one ounce to high premium silver coins...same for gold, bullion compared to premium gold historical coins...which is more likely to return profit over time or hold their wealth...Collectibles even high premium can drop like Chippendale furniture or oil paintings but so can bullion...a McLaren f1 which cost an amazing million dollars when released but now $15m is paid for them....then once an e type jag might sell for $25,000 but when the bubble burst it could be got for 1/3 of that...which is best to hold, an historical coin or a safe stacked with hu dress or thousands of rounds?.
You make some excellent points, thanks for sharing and thanks for stopping by, which was your favourite bar of silver from this video?
I had a 100oz Engelhardt bar for a while and a RC kilo bar...but they were just holders of value, when good profit came along I sold them...big bars are bulk metal in my eyes, my 1803 half dollar is value in a coin, maybe that's the metal detectors in me, who screams when he finds a silver Rosie worth $2 after three weeks of hunting..lol.
You can't let the local market know you have that amount you go to individual stores just sell for kilos here two kilos there you'll be okay
Yeah, I would tend to agree!
Another option to sell your silver is to create your own website, build a low cost WIX website and add a shopping cart, paying for that would be cheaper than ebay fees and then tell everyone on forums that you are selling your stack and come take a look, they pay you direct. Would be a slower way of selling but a safe way of doing it and you take control..
I have always thought a great social media site would be a collectors specific one, something like facebook but it has collector catogories, so you go on, register but your details are anonymous, list all your coins, collectables etc, design the page with images displaying your stack for the world to see but with the added function that anyone can send you an offer for an item in your stack/collection, its not for sale but as they say everythings for sale at the right price, so if you see something you want in someone elses collection you can send them an offer to buy, they say yes or no, no counter offer or bartering and you cant list items for sale with prices, its not a selling site but would make a good social hobby place to visit. Image you wanted to buy a 1oz BYB bar, you type in the search bar and everyone that has one in their stack is shown and then you can send an offer to them 1 by one until someone says yes i will sell for that generous offer or you exhaust all of them and realise nobody would ever sell their BYB bar and your out of luck.... unless they would accept this offer.... everythings for sale at the right price lol.
It'll be a more precarious proposal coming from the buyer's point of view though as you're asking complete strangers to send you money without affording them any security / customer care / refund policy / PayPal etc in return.
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@@BackyardBullion Without a doubt, the Germania Mint, even if it was the smallest bar, the logo, the font, the shine, it has it all
If the price is right many people are interested in the 1 kilo bars! If you want to sell that 1 kilo Merkur Bank bar I am ready to buy it… Spot price.
Ha, sadly Dan I will be keeping hold of this kilo bar for a long time, I love it!
He's also trying to sell large-denomination bars...what if that 95 kilos were 10 oz bars and coins?
coins would sell but would take time
I agree, it would take a long time to sell that many individual coins and then it turns into a full time job for him.
Buying a table at a coin show when you're ready to sell, if you have a lot of numismatics, might actually be a better way to go than Ebay.
I would disagree - maybe in the USA but in the UK it would be a nightmare of logistics and cost - not to mention you would not sell very much here in the UK.
@@BackyardBullion really ? I was thinking that in the UK is a big numismatic Market ??
Only recently began stacking silver, and one thing that really surprised me is this....
I can buy 1oz silver Britannica's, Maple's or Krugerrand's for around the same or cheaper than the equivalent weight in bars?
To me this is really odd because;
a) they are much more readily identified as genuine (security features etc.)
b) much more acceptable as they come from government mints, and
c) You can sell single ounces or 10 x 1oz silver much easier than a 10oz bar which is limited to only one set weight?
I'm in the Euro zone but I don't think that should make any difference. Large bars may look "sexier" but unless there's a significant discount compared to the same weight in 1oz coins they can keep them as far as I'm concerned.
Yeah, you are right. The coin form silver is better than bars - but you can still pick up some nice bars too.
Are you the same been that buying silver coins 50% over spot tho...
I'm fortunate enough to live near several local coin shops here in the States who actively an enthusiastically trade any common forms of gold or silver, bars included. What I have noticed, however, is that 10-oz bars seem to be the sweet spot for both the dealers and for their customers (with regard to liquidity and low premiums). I've found 10-oz, 5-oz, and 1-oz bars to be the most liquid, although most dealers are happy with kilo bars, too. One dealer is also fond of 100-oz bars and trades in them regularly, but those aren't my cup of tea.
And yes, I too have found that eBay is garbage anymore for buying and especially for selling. I'm done with them. The rare time that I buy on eBay is when I'm dealing with a long-established seller (such as one of the big bullion sellers who also have an eBay store).
Seems to me as someone new to this that buying well recognized silver coins is the way to go. Up until you have enough staked to convert to 1oz Gold. Rise and repeat.
Yeah, this is a great way to do things. Thanks for stopping by, which was your favourite bar of silver from this video?
Unless you are really good at playing the ratios just save and buy the gold if that is your goal. It will cost you far less. If you are going to play the ratio, bars are your best bet due to the dollar or two below spot per ounce you will most likely get for the large bars is better then the $5-8 dollars per ounce over spot you spent on unrecoverable premiums on 1 oz coins and small bars.
It's a horrible investment, but it's a beautiful way to save money.
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@@BackyardBullion My guilty pleasure is the yearly Germania Mint "coin" series, and I love the glossy look of their bars.
Thanks for the real world advice. How do you buy and sell on the silver forum? What online platforms do you recommend doing this on, other than the silver forum?
I would say the silver forum is the best place, maybe Instagram if you are safe, but its risky over there.
This is all true..but I love kilo bars. I can’t help myself but stack them. I hate that it’s my favorite bar, but it just is.
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Thanks, I'm not sure on the conversion, but I'm in his neighborhood. Bars are nice, I do have one 1000oz bar at brokers to flip. I used to like the Maples but the milk spots are terrible! Luckily I focused on Eagles, and 10oz bars, those fly on Ebay, decent margin, and no issue too large. My vendor also publishes 2 prices, one is what they buy for, the other is what they sell for, so package, ship, wait for wire transfer. Or, in the case of 62.5 LBS in their vault, it's just a call. Gold is not bad either, I prefer coins, but have some bars as well. I don't know his site, but there is a guy that calls 7 coin stores to see what they are buying for, some were 9 to 11 over spot on Eagles, others tried to steal it. What's happened is the mint must buy at spot, Sunshine Mines, and the other 3 mines, have figured out people will give them more than spot, leaving fewer 2022 Eagles. Just grabbed 10-10 oz Sunshine bars, premium was $10 over the lowest ones. But people aren't that dumb, they will buy a Sunshine bar over other bars as well. Plus, you are correct, it gets cumbersome at these quantities, so I ordered a roll of AGE quarters too.
I try to keep a good relationship with the places I buy from, when going to sell I have only had issues with specialty rounds and such recouping premiums...that being said I've only had to sell a few thousand dollars worth at once so , mileage may vary...
Well said!
You are correct - if its in kilo bars it would be hard sell - europe is different to US when it comes to silver.
Very different markets for sure. Thanks my friend, appreciate you stopping by! Which was your favourite bar of silver from this video?
I’m really interested in finding out the difference between US and Europe when it comes to stacking and selling. I plan to move to Europe within the next few years and hope to SLOWLY liquidate my humble collection of one once sovereigns that I own while enjoying retirement.
I was out of town for a conference and my wife decided to move in with her parents during that time. When she did, I felt so bad she had to move all our silver while pregnant! It wasn’t a lot! But enough to be concerned about a pregnant lady moving it. I decided to change some silver to gold and just concentrate a bit more gold.
Saw those bars on ebay and TSF, they provided an interesting lesson.
They certainly did! Appreciate you stopping by! Which was your favourite bar of silver from this video?
Here in US, you can't sell on ebay without losing your @55. They charge sales tax to the buyer, and now we have to pay income taxes on our sales in addition to the fees. Not worth it.
It's a nice problem to have that's for sure 😁
I mean, youre not wrong
That Merkur Bank bar looks way cool; nice and chunky.
That's why I buy SLV instead of kilo bars. I can sell it all in a second for a 1 cent bid/ask spread.
Those Britannia gold bars are gorgeous.
Aren't they just, thanks so much for stopping by!
The premiums of small amounts of precious metals is the price a buyer pays to make the selling process much easier.
I think the key is having lots but selling it in small chunks ultimately golds my aim
What about on line dealers??
How are you going to post 95kg of silver to an online dealer?
Yea just asking. Like you would eat an elephant a little at a time
The key to me is that the bigger bars have fewer bars! 20 oz and below usually sale pretty gd! He should also have multiple avenues
Thumbs up 👍🏻 thanks good info
Glad it was helpful!
How will you handle capital gains tax in the UK?
I was thinking maybe the sellers best bet as much of a headache as it may be, try to utilize the silver gold ratio, and then he/she could potentially have an easier time offloading it
Maybe, but thats not really as easy here in the UK because of all the accounting and reporting that is required.
If I could do it all again I would definitely spend my hard earned on Gold 1oz coins.
1000ozs of silver coins is very very hard to store and the value of silver has dropped.
Gold is definitely the way to go if your buying precious metals for the future
Great video byb 👍🏻
I agree, bars are not as aesthetically pleasing as rounds.
For those sizes and the amount of silver the only ones you can sell right away are the big bullion dealers. You will get a price slightly less than spot price but that is what one is agreed to do with that size and amount of silver.
I myself cannot hold that much silver, it is a pain to sell that size and that much.
My direction is to obtain about 100 ounces of silver and anything more it is converted to gold. I plan to hold about 10 ounces of gold. More than that amount of gold I purchase real estate.
That way I have easy ways to sell small amounts of silver or if I need a lump sum I sell some gold and if I need a lot I would sell my properties.
I agree with what you said. I Think I’m going to stop at 200 ounces of stacking silver. $200 face value of 90%. And the odd pieces I don’t think I can stop. Lol. But I’m not going to stop with gold. And I read a lot of the comments and replies so if you’re going to ask me what bar I like the most… I’d have to go with the…… ADC bar. Thank you for the video it was very helpful. 👍 Take care.
Call the local coin shops (LCS) in your area and ask them what their buyback practices are. Do they buyback using a weight threshold? Do they buyback with a sum total threshold? Do they have a specific type of silver they buy (e.g. coins vs. bars)? Knowing this in advance will help you create a liquidity strategy around your stacking. Cheers!
thank god it was only a few bucks but I had someone buy some of the newer US brass dollars on my eBay that I got from work it was $5 FV cost $2 to ship and as soon as it was delivered they requested a refund I fought it for a bit I wanted the coins back then they put up a dispute and eBay just wavered in their favor and I got a negative review now I want a minimum of 1000 reviews on an account before I even ship it, if you don't have it I cancel the order. fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me eBay.
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Been saying that for years , and I've been ignored and insulted , it's big bulky hard to store , sell it's high premium/ tax and the charts don't lie despite what certain TH-camrs who have millions of subscribers own mines or distribution have been trying to falsely claim over the last decade .
I mean, its all about ad revenue, sponsorships and god awful self help guides and books that make these people do what they do. Also, the vast majority are just tinfoil hat wearing lunatics. All agenda driven.
It's good to have a little silver but I agree with the storage issues, plus the fact that you buy it at well over spot, may pay taxes depending on where you live. The price adds up. Then when you go to sell it you get beat up by LCS or have to chance being scammed online. When the price actually gets high enough to clear the premium and taxes, the market is saturated and you have to sell below spot to sell it before spot drops back down. People know $30 is expensive for silver and chances are it would be back below $25 in a matter of days so they stop buying and wait. Silver sucks as an investment period. A little for security against a dollar collapse but these people stacking thousands of ounces really doesn't make sense. Buy gold or land if you want something safe that you can liquidate quickly.
In Australia the premiums on 1 oz silver coins is pretty much 50%.
Ouch, thats pretty high. Does that mean bars are better? Thanks for stopping by, which was your favourite bar of silver from this video?
There’s a couple on the table that I would take. But I’m in the US. Cant quite swing 95…
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@@BackyardBullion I was drawn to the M&B scales chunky baron particular, from those that were shown.
When I started stacking I thought about how to sell .. a coin shop is great if you have the right items ... stack as much differant silver products is best .. a lcs would love 32 differant coins rounds or small bars than a one kilo bar
The guy is dreaming at that price for the full load
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@@BackyardBullion from that one? Germania every time
It's easy to sell bars here in the U.S.A. 🇺🇸
Sure, but at what price do you get? Thanks for stopping by, which was your favourite bar of silver from this video?
who is the guy?.. I'm looking to buy
Go check out the silver forum
I have to say you get low-ball offers for gold also
One reason I only purchase gov't issued 1 oz coins and 10 oz bars.
What people fail to mention is the people you buy it from if you buy it from a reputable dealer you get a slip of paper that is its receipt and authentication so if you decide you need to sell it you turn around as long as you keep that receipt just like the grocery store you can sell it back to that company I've been buying from JM bullion for a few years now that's their policy as long as you have that receipt they will buy it back
Hit the nail on the head there... I think we'd all rather a kilo of gold than that much silver! nice gold bars , I wonder when the third in the series will be out , and will it be double sided ..or two different bars... hope people also realise , that their kids might not want the problem of getting rid of metal assets .. when they pass ..
Same problem with a kilo of gold---it's a large amount!
With a kilo of gold you would almost 100% have to go to a dealer to cash out. No chance that a private seller worth his salt would buy a kilo gold bar from a car boot!
New to this Can anyone advise where I can get best price on gold coins. My gold is to get hold of coins with lowest premium that I can handle rather than just have them in a capsule? London based
I sold some gold today publicly for SPOT. I have some other gold available, £1695 for a 1 oz gold royal arms, if interested email byb@backyardbullion.com
I wish I had the problem of trying to sell 95kg of silver. Would smaller weight bars be easier to shift like 100g?
You really don't want to sell large quantities at the same time due to taxes (the present laws) but there are metals dealers that will be happy to take them off your hands; the question is a what cost
For sure, it is better to do things slowly over time. Thanks for stopping by, which was your favourite bar of silver from this video?
You probably have to sell it in smaller sales
I would take 4 or 5 for about 5 hundred a key but that's my limit now at one time.
Good luck my friend. I may could take more anyway here I am I know you want to more but I am not rich
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Kinda like picking your favorite kid but a little harder haha
When the cbdc comes in to play how are you going to sell your silver to a coin dealer that will only pay you in cbdc
Amateurs sell metal, professionals trade Silver for other items of use or need. I have bought land, vehicles, and a very lucrative business here in Montana.
Exactly. This comment section is full of cry baby get-rich-quick scheming newbs.
I have 10oz bars and smaller I have only 1 100oz and 4kilo bars the rest is smaller stuff as well as gold I have only a few 1oz mostly half 0z and under easier to move down the road
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Why can't they melt it down and make your own limited edition 1oz rounds?
I mean, I could but I don't have £57,000 lying around to spend on raw materials!
Yeah, feel like we do this once a year or so....... I love silver, it's beautiful and fun to get all those amazing options - and those (relatively) lower prices to Au per coin. But, it's darn near impossible to sell a lot easily - and it quickly gets very heavy and takes up too much room as it adds up. I too once had to get rid of nearly 1000oz. and it was no fun time... Never again. Sure, I keep a reasonable amount of ASE in case TSHTF....... but, otherwise it's Au all the way.......
It's a good idea to establish a seller presence on ebay. I started selling in the hopes of being a full-time seller, which didn't happen. But having a good Seller Rating with hundreds of sells and learning the ins and outs of ebay has been beneficial for offloading all kinds of things here and there. When I sold my father's stack, I got full retail. Just sell somethings that easy, like trading cards or something. Don't worry about making a profit at first, you're just trying to get your Seller Rating to at least 100 at 100%.
I'm starting to look at an eBay store. I'm finding that holding semi numismatics is less than ideal. Selling Libertads, for example, is trickier than buffalos since the big retailers offer only a buck or two over spot price. Local coin shops are a little better, maybe $5 or $6 over spot, but that's far less than the market value of Libertads. The only way to sell them is on eBay or to find a private buyer from elsewhere you can trust.
@@blippacg Start by selling cheap items until you learn the ends and outs of ebay. Best of luck.
This guy's primary issue is that he refuses to break up the silver supply. That is an extremely lazy way of selling. Finding one buyer who will buy that much generic bars for their absurd demanding price is delusional. People who stack silver and gold to that extent are financially illiterate. Completely absurd.
If you want to sell so much at one place, can you really expect more than spot?
Investing requires an off-ramp.
It sure does!
Sadly with premiums and vat silver is not a good option at the moment. Gold will I think will continue to fall but recover over time so I'm looking at 1/4 1/2 1/10th s more and more
Thanks for sharing, sounds like a good plan. Which was your favourite gold coin in this video?
Would this be issue with Silver Eagles ?
He is selling them in the wrong place.
My coin shop is ALWAYS looking for supply...but stacking those large bars isn't helpful.
American Eagles are in demand and when I go to my dealer they always ask me if I want to sell my Eagles. The answer is always NOPE.
Yeah, I would agree with you.
Here in the US we don't have a tax on Silver so at least in my state so I look at it a little differently I do like silver coins over bars but if the opportunity arose to get 100 oz bar for a little over spot I would jump on it Wish he lived here in the US cuz I'd offer to buy a couple of bars off of him at $1.50 an ounce over spot
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I really like Germania mint and that 100oz would look great next to my 10s and 5s of Germania bars but the gold bars are nice. I only have coins when it comes to gold.
I have the gen-2 sigma metalytics machine with the extra bullion wand that can test a 100oz bar..... if stacking big bars, this investment is a must IMO. Kilo bars are hot right now in the USA. Alot of dealers treat them like 10oz bars where 10 years ago they were treated like 100oz bars. If the seller is able to sell the bars at $1.59 an oz over spot like a couple of the big dealers i will buy a few....
Good video. I’m new to all this, and I’m in Britain. If I buy silver from Europe or America is it vat free?
Buy food, only a couple percent of people would ever want silver. Food, fuel, guns, ammo, seeds, tools....thats what people would want, silver can be used as money, but 98% of people would not want it in a shtf scenario
I would agree with you - but just how likely is a true SHTF scenario and if it happened would you even want to part with those things? Thanks for stopping by, which was your favourite bar of silver from this video?
It's not the worst problem to have, in fairness - having 95kg to sell :)
Well no, its very much a first world problem!
I'm in New York, I can sell 95 kilos to a wholesaler in one day for hard cash, from $1 under spot to fifty cent over spot depending on the brand. I would bring 5 or 6 family members if I needed it in one day, if not, I would go to my wholesaler 6 days in a row because I don't want the transaction reported. He has to report it, if the sale is over $10,000. Bottom line is that it would be no problem selling even $100,000 in silver and he would give cash or check, or both if that's how you wanted it. Peace.
Umm when I buy silver bars or get junk silver from the goodwill and thrift stores and yard sells and melt it and make my own bullion rounds and bricks ECT I only expect to get the current value of it at that time per oz, even when I buy some beautiful name brand struck bars and other types of objects made out of silver for bullion I know going into it if I paid 3-8 percone over spot I don't expect to get my money back or make a profit because the price of silver fluctuates and it's only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Not saying I short my self and lose money but I don't have unreal expectations either. I just love the look of having a bunch of silver bullion in my safe and in chests full of it looks beautiful. I love unique designs like statues and balls and objects and ECT not just bars I have more cool object then I do bars cuse it's unique and fun to show ppl cuse bars are like okn cool bars but different objects friends that see it for first time spend a little more time looking at it all cuse of the shape they are like bullet shapes, statues,cars, baseballs footballs, airplanes, swords and knives and ECT all made of silver just in shape of those objects which makes it more fun then just bars.
This is kinda why I'm buying a whole bunch of 1 gram, 10gram and 20 gram bars. Yea they are really expensive. But I figure if you have a 100oz silver bar, your going to have to pay someone to melt it down, cast it and stamp it into a more reasonable currency. That anyone could use in practical ways. I have nothing bigger than a 1 oz bar. I figure if you need to make larger purchases, then use gold.
Dang! I just bought a kilo!
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@@BackyardBullion Does one have a favorite? They are all nice. I'm never good at choosing a favorite.
here in the US you can sell back to the online bullion dealers and they'll buy as much as you care to sell
wish the US had the same capital gains rules as UK
It's not so easy when you try and sell it all at once and in Kilos or 5 kilo's 😆 There was another seller on the forum who sold 50 tubes no problem
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@@BackyardBullion The Perth Mint Kilo for sure, if you want to sell for bullion dealer prices, I'll buy 😂it's a shame that wasn't a more common design
I’m a beekeeper, I’ll trade you 1oz fine silver for 2.5kg of honey.🐝
good idea
I’m watching this 2 years later and I’d love to buy a kilo for 600 or 700 like you mentioned. Can I get his contact info 🤣🤣
The gold to silver ratio says silver is the buy. I listen to it. I know others don't. If all goes well I will get free gold later
Kilos of silver grain/shot would have been a more logical choice. With a scale, it could be divided into any portion you choose.
Germania bar is beautiful
If silver is trading at $24 oz why do people on eBay pay double price of it? I even see it on eBay