New DEWALT PowerStack Battery Hands On Test WILL SHOCK YOU! Dewalt (Powerstack vs Dewalt 20v)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ย. 2024
- The New Dewalt PowerStack Battery was announced a few weeks agao, but I was able to get my hands on one, and the resulst will shock you. Today we are testing the all new Dewalt PowerStack Battery and will put the new Powerstack battery vs the 20v dewalt battery
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I was pulling for you in the head-head, but then you pulled ahead. I guess congrats to you. Sorry for you though.
Lmao 🤣 👊 🤣 👊
Let me know when we do not need a chinese adapter to use each (basically identical spec) battery pack with our tools. Chemistry is chemistry, nerdy corp beancounters purposely attack working people and small business by making their (identical cell and voltage despite 18/20v marketing to idiots shenanigan's) batts incompatible.
Do not encourage these retards
@@ToolReviewZone Hi Clint 👍
Can’t wait to hear the names the other companies come up with for their stacked batteries such as Milwaukee’s Plates of Power or Bosch’s Lightening Pancakes 🥞🤪
Hahaha
Lightning pancakes 😂😂😂
Milwaukee is on it trust me. 🙏🏽
Milwaukee Wafers
Ryobi’s mound of mediocrity. Now with even more gimmicky tools you’ll never use.
I drywall using 4ah batteries and have recently dropped to 3ah. Helps my shoulder reducing weight so im really looking forward to the new battery.
You're right. This is game changing technology. This is obviously a gen one. A battery the size of a 4 ah could power hi draw tools many times longer than anything currently in existence. I figure that will be the next release for this new tech.
I hope Brian. I know for a fact that even this will power a sds Rotary Hammer like a champ, so larger would be awesome 👌
I am glad you did a comparison and looking forward to future duels. this should be fun!!!
Going to be fun for sure brother. I'm really excited to see you wins
I understand that battery technology has to improve and change for the future. I am one of the doubters and wait for anything to prove itself. Dewalt, for sure has done it's research for safety. The testing will be done by the public when these batteries hit the open market in real world applications at a higher price. The neighbor if funny.
@@RidgidRon damn right brother. Also, didn't even know he was back there lmao
@@ToolReviewZone Real freaken funny...your neighbor. You are too..of course you are.
@@RidgidRon hahaha, he is the one I like 🤣
When I saw “power stack,” I was expecting the capability to literally stack the packs to make 40v or 60v. Or increase the AH.
I actually think this will hold its own against the FLEXVOLT and definitely the 40v Makita. I'll put it to the test
@@ToolReviewZone I hope not, I just finally invested in a couple 9AH flex volts the other day, don't tell me I wasted my money! lol
@@Thumbsdwn 🤣👊 na, you got great run time on those batteries. I think if they can make these a bit bigger, you may have an issue 🤣👊
I'll be keeping an eye out for your comparison!
Impressive video. For now I will stick with my other 4 brands I already have. I can't be bothered changing everything to Dewalt because of the batteries. Smeeesh done.👍
Haha, I understand that brother, and thanks for the SMEEESH!!!!
dude buy an adapter
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Well, I have some adapters depending on the tools. Some tools don’t really look good or get really practical with an adapter. Imagine using a Ryobi battery plus the adapter in a Makita, dewalt etc. That will look pretty alien. 😂
@@ruinunes8251 i use my dewalt batteries in milwaukee tools, my bosch in dewalt and ryobi , no problems there. Fits nice
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I completely agree with you. However I don’t think you understood my point😃 Because Ryobi batteries have the tower with the connectors where it fits in the tools, having a thick adapter of the same height as the tower plus some other thickness of the said adapter in order to slide in and out of the tools, it looks really alien and tools will get a bit awkward to work with.
If you look online, you will see hundreds of adapters to use batteries from different manufactures on Ryobi tools but not many adapters to use a Ryobi batteries on other tools due to the awkwardness of the adapter itself.
Imagine the looks you will get at a job site when you pull out a Ryobi adapter from a toolbox as thick as a drill body. 😃
Hey what can I say.... impressive. Like I said before it's going to come down to smaller more powerful batteries with longer run times and smaller size tools....it's the year of DeWalt ...glad I own the line.
I think next year is probably going to be even more impressive
Can't wait for more videos on this from you. Watch all your videos and love them all but I think your gonna have so much fun doing more comparisons with this new battery...thanks for my evening entertainment 😂
Hahaha, thanks so much Scott, really appreciate that brother. I'm actually really excited about some Tool Duels with this. Most excited I've been in a while
Absolutely amazing! I didn’t think their claims would hold water but looks like they are. Really excited to get my hands on a couple of these. Can’t even imagine what the bigger batteries will be capable of. Hopefully they’ll be safe though.
Awesome video! That power stack battery looks impressive! Great job 👍🏻
Thanks malone!!!
I’m a Milwaukee guy through and through, but I must say it seems like this is gonna be a game changer in the power tool industry!
@Austin: Look at this Milwaukee pony yall lol 👆🏽😂😭!!!
I’m curious how it will effect run time on like a fan or something like that. Also, great editing! Wasn’t expecting a you vs you but that’s the best way to see how it does.
I hate seeing test with 2 people and they don’t swap both setups
Great question Matt. I'll be doing more vids (including runtime) soon. I also agree it seems to be the best way to get better results, but that's just because nobody likes me and won't help with the vids 🤣
I did an entire video, last night, telling people that these batteries are game changers and could propel both Dewalt and Flex ahead of Milwaukee in the market. Milwaukee needs to step their game up if they want to continue being the leaders in the tool world.
Definitely a game changer. I wouldn't be surprised to see Milwaukee come out with something 🤔
@@ToolReviewZone they should move quickly if they have anything up their sleeve. Otherwise they run the real danger of looking like they are less innovative than their competition
Maybe the red pos should figure out how to keep the batteries from falling out first.
Hey Yo Clint !!! AWESOME! I think you are the first outta the gate with this?!? 🤔😃👍
Are we seeing the ‘rebirth’ of the Dewalt of the 90’s here? It’s about time they wake up and innovate like they use to! GO DeWalt!!! I am in complete agreement with you here; if they can make this work, be stable and of course safe, and provide more Ah’s, it’s gold baby!
Big thumbs up and I just wanna say, sorry I’ve missed your recent videos. I’ve been binge watching while recovering from a really bad bout of Covid. Hospitalized for about a week, and recovering well. I am very fortunate and blessed. Stay safe and Healthy Bro!!! 👏🏻👍👍👍👍✌🏻😁🇺🇸
Damn brother, hope you are feeling better brother. Really sorry to hear that George 😞. Yeah, I believe this is the first hands on review out there. Dewalt has definitely been stepping up their game, and it's a win for all of us brother. Get some rest and we'll talk soon 👊
Thanks for another hit out of the park! Keep up the good work! 😎😎🤓🤓
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Thanks brother 👊
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Do you know what we need?
MORE POWER!
You darn right, more power.
Lol. This was one of my favorite shows growing up. I use to watch this show pretty religiously back in the day. Lol. 😎
The test with the drills it would be easy to make a jig to put the same amount of downward force on it every time to ensure consistency. Maybe you do not want to spend the time on it or not, but it would help any tests.
I'm looking forward to people who need the next best thing selling their old 20v batteries cheap on Craigslist.
I dont know if you want the technicals on this but I work in industrial electronics. The switch is inevitable and it is safe for continuous use (*asterisk on this). The current batteries (li-on) have a 1-3C rating so it severely limits the output wattage on power tools. I am assuming this was the reason for flex volt, higher voltage = higher wattage if you have the same 1-3C rating. With the new Li-po batteries, Dewalt can have anywhere from 20-100C rating for the batteries, basically x20-100 for power output. Side note: will they get rid of the flex volt line because they do not need to increase the voltage to 60v?
Now the asterisk from before, the nice quality about the current batteries is that they can operate at higher temperatures for longer. The additional heat you experienced was completely normal and perfectly fine. Some can operate at temperatures above 100 Celcius. The new Li-po cannot hand heat well, I do not mean heat stress they run cool. I worry about a scenario such as using the batteries on a roof in the middle of summer. The batteries could overheat even with protection.
Im really excited to see if Makita takes advantage of batteries such as these, their battery platform is lacking to say the least,All Makita tools would benefit greatly from the power increases brought from these type of cells. And I'm sure Milwaukee has something up their sleeve,it's Milwaukee. You think they're going to sit around and let DeWalt take center stage?, I'm sure they're watching them roll out and planning how they can 1up everybody else. Bet.
Milwaukee is definitely probably watching. They are just sitting back watch I'd bet then they will strike. Makita, not so much. They are to hard headed to change anything they do. Not sure why, but they are definitely going to get left in the dust if they don't figure something out Andrew 👊
Milwaukee could do something years ago but they have decided to stay with there battery Design and build the biggest 18V batterys on the market.
Ijust compare the same 21700 Technology side by side. Bosch ProCore 4Ah and Milwaukee M18 3Ah HO. They are the same cells and Bosch manage it to put 1 Ah more into a smaller diameter pack
@@ToolReviewZone I definitely share your viewpoint on Makita. Incredibly thick headed!
Yep
@@ToolReviewZone Makita has the same amount of power and runtime as the top Milwaukee and DeWalt with their 2x18V tools. The reason they haven't pushed 21700 batteries on their 18V platform is because it would break compatibility with their 2x18V tools. 21700 cells would make the batteries wider and they wouldn't fit. The newest 2x18V tools have space in between the batteries to accommodate larger ones in the future.
I see the benefit of the DeWalt power stack battery. It can supply as much power as a 10 cell power tool battery (typically 3/4 Ah and upwards) while only having five cells. But! LiPo batteries are not as durable as cylindrical cells (fewer charge cycles) and not as high capacity. The power stack is only 1.7Ah. The power stack is simply a cheap battery they can package with their high performance tools.
100% agree with the power, safety and size performance of these new to the tool industry batteries as someone from the telecom industry. If I needed any new tools I would consider Dewalt if I wasn't already married to other brands. Others will follow soon, Stanley hasn't exactly reinvented the wheel here.
I love my dewalt batteries I have only had a problem with one. I bought a set of dewalt drills back in 2012 and the 1.5 are still working. I had to buy the power stack. I like your videos very awenest reviews 👌
Finally Dewalt comes out with a game changing product
Agreed Benny, they needed this
“Tim Taylor grunt “.
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What run times are you getting my one on a grinder gets around 45 to 60mins run time. Powerful but needs a 4 or 5 amp version
The fact that the power stack is smaller in size but yet has more power is real nice like!
I am so looking forward to getting these so I can upgrade my Dewalt Tools.
They are fantastic John. Dewalt slayed with these batteries
Man I’m so glad shoe nice turned his life around. Reviewing tools now. Bless up
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Bro! Stick that thing on the leaf blower vs the 5.0 and give us a runtime!
Looks like you're the first You Tuber to get the new power stack batteries in your hands, Congrats!
I think others got them, I just got it out a bit faster 👊
Got to give up to Randy, he brings a little comedy relief to the video. Lol. Great video brother👍
Hahaha 👊 👊 👊
Keep up the great work, I will most definitely be getting a few of them. Very Good demonstration.
A local plumber who owns the large commercial company had a DeWalt lithium battery blow up next to his head when boring a hole for a copper water line through a KD 2*4. It really is true so what you just said about safety and DeWalt man you should walk that one back.
Also it was his personal drill and battery less than a year old at the time. Needless to say he is alright today thankfully, and ONLY buys and runs Milwaukee M18. I have had them all but dewalts 3rd, Makita 2nd and Milwaukee is King. I honestly still have my original 3.0 batteries over 13 years old that still run/charge/last but 3 years ago I took them off of our main workhorse battery line up. Makitas seem to always to completely die out at the 4-5 year mark maximum
Yeah...those cells weren't used for a few reasons before. One among them was their safety/durability. Considering how much the tools cost, and so many tools using batteries now I hope these really are as safe as THEY FCKN BETTER BE
US model number and spec for that PowerStack battery is DCBP034 20V Max 1.7Ah 30.6Wh. My concern would be it will turn into a spicy pillow eventuality.
🤣 hope not
Looks good, but all my tools are Bosch, got 15 Pro core batteries, so I wouldn't want to change brand, not one had let me down, so I'm more than happy with Bosch
Ill wait for a 4 or 5 amp hour version 😎
How did I just stumble across your channel now?! Instantly subscribed!!
Did the neighbor wave at you?? 😂
He did lol
You should measure the impedance difference.
Dewalt is stacking themselves up to be in charge of the competition. Flat out getting it done with these
Excellent 👊 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lol
Clint, great video as always. Entertaining and informative. What more could you ask for? Got two questions. I'm not a Trades Guy, I'm a DIY Guy so my batteries and tools might sit awhile before I get off my fat butt and jump into another project. Dewalt 20v batteries hang on to their charge for a good long time in storage, months with no losses. Does Dewalt know much about the storage loss of charge on these new batteries, and is it as good as the current batteries? Second, everything I got is on the Dewalt platform which means I've got quite the investment in batteries. Any chance the Dewalt guys might offer a trade in/trade up program? The 20v batteries can go for years before needing to be replaced/recycled and I don't want to wait that long to experience some of that schweet, schweet Power Stack power. I have no problem spending for some new tech, but I know these will likely be more expensive than current batteries and a little trade in discount on the price would certainly free up the change in my pockets faster! Keep up the great work!
Great questions Mason! I could always find out about the trade up question. As for the battery drainage, I'm not sure... but I could ask that as well.
Nice editing im impressed with your video quality 👌
Thanks Damon!!!
Wow you really have it in hand!!!
Yep! 😎👊
Pretty impressive, only thing is I'm not in DeWalt platform. I go with big red.mainly, Although I have DeWalt stationary tools which is awesome 😎.
flex is dropping theirs next month and i do believe they will be better.
I can't wait till they come out I need some new batteries but im waiting great video buddy would love to know how much or less time it takes to charge it
I'll definitely do more testing Michael. Look for more vids soon brother 👊
Great video. I was wondering if it would be worth the money to purchase a set to replace my older batteries. Nice to see a native of Austintown on TH-cam.
So awesome. Thank you. Can't wait till these are available.
They are beast Wade!
Red fan boy here no wonder Milwaukee isn't having a "tool day"/ pipeline event etc.... Thats not nice like!
Scrambling is deffinetly the word
Lol, at least now they have a true competitor with power
No more royalties paid out .... Thats going to make rnd take a hit for MilwaukI 😂... Question was the 2ah battery new out of the pack ? Powerstack seems like a good idea but even with lithium batteries I worry about storage temperatures. Any 1 with even a modern phone has got the this phone is over heating msg if left out in this Florida heat!
I don’t think they’ll have any real competition until other manufacturers get flat cell stacks of their own to market
Flex has said theirs is coming real soon too... competition makes everyone work harder!
I can’t believe you can afford real wood. I keep mine in the safe. I’ve put the cash in a wheelbarrow in the garden it’s a bit worthless I’ve just bought four power stack batteries and I’m really impressed.
Good video as always Clint @ToolReviewZone
I would love to see powerstack Vs Compact 21700 Cell Batteries nice work though Clint very informative Video @ToolReviewZone
I just bought the new atomic impact for $99. I can't wait for December 1st so I can get my hands on that power stack.
Me too! I'm waiting for a video of that new atomic dcf850 equipped with a new power stack battery vs some other top of the line drills. Nobody had one yet AHEM hint hint Clint!! It'd be supper duper nass like!!!
Hi Clint, excellent demonstration ty, it’s much smaller and more powerful very interesting, I’m looking forward to trying it, excellent explanation, ty, Bob,
Hahaha. It’s not a cell phone battery though… it is closer to the hobby grade rc batteries. High output and high discharge rate. There are extremely high end rc batteries but none of them are risk free. Normally the cells will swell well before any issues. The main concern is how tight they are in that case. For instance you may not even notice them swelling if there is enough room or they may be tight in the case and start to swell and split the case. I’m sure we will be finding out soon enough
You're right. Just used a cell phone for a better visual as not many may know what the rc battery looks like
@@ToolReviewZone I really hope
It works out for them. Tesla and the other electric car companies have avoided them because of the hazards. But with Chevy cobalts spontaneously combusting I feel like they might have used them 🤣
Good call. Be careful with these LiPo batteries.
Man, that’s pretty impressive.
Are those brushed or brushless tools? I'm not a huge DeWalt tool guy but it seems like they are very underpowered with the old battery and the new battery is definitely an improvement. I would just expect them to easily drill a 1" spade hole without a problem no matter the battery. Anyways as a drone builder and operator who has used several lipo batteries I would like to see a drop and durability test. Battery explosions are still common in the drone industry because the rapid charge and discharging as well as impacts... Granted I don't expect to see someone there a tool from 300' feet into the air and at 90mph but you never know.
Randy…Everyone needs a neighbor like that! Probably not loaning out any tools to the guy but…seems friendly.
When the drilling scene went on why is the 2x thicker on the right then the left
They look awesome, sound good. But the new cells are easier to mass produce and sound. The 18650 Li- ion cells are sound and awesome and easily changed to repair an old or bad cell so your batteries last. This is a good video but I'm gonna stick with what I have. Good for dewalt trying to come up with new ideas.
Also a reason they haven’t used LiPo cells in power tools apparently is they’re more fragile.
I want the wider battery base. less chance of falling over when you set it down upright
We all know TRZ swiped the battery under the smoke when they opened the show box.
Hahahahahahaha 👊 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫
Thanks for showing! I look forward to these coming out. 👍
I like the power stack but the Amp Hours are a little low for now don't you think I'm waiting for larger Amp Hours
Hoping they get some bigger ones out there. Freaking awesome batteries though
@@ToolReviewZone looks awesome, now if only the price is awesome also
@@ToolReviewZone The leaks that happened a couple weeks ago showed a 5ah battery power stack. And there have been rumors of flexvolt batteries going to power stack type, (don't have proof of that though).
I hope. Haven't seen them myself, and Dewalt hasn't replied to my question about that 🤣
Try it with the roofing or framing gun
I can't wait to get one.. I'll let ya know
Definitely 👊
I sure hope Milwaukee catches on to this!!!
Clint Dogg first on the seen brother. I’m happy for ya brother TRZ 4 Life 😂😂
Hahaha, thanks brother. Was really excited to get this up for you all to see Anthony 👊👊👊
@@ToolReviewZone honestly though out of all the channels on the tube yours is the best. Your hilarious and you have good content. You would definitely fit in with my friends and I
@@tonytools9342 Can't tell you how much that mean Anthony. I definitely try to keep it fun and different from the others. Just happy to hear you enjoy it brother 👊👊👊
I am going to get a powerstack to replace my 2ah in my dewalt drill and impact combo kit.
what's with the heating? where is the stress test, although what is the stress test in advertising.
Will this kill the 12v line? Imagine the new 20v Atomic with this battery pact. In this set up what would be the benefit to pulling out the 12v line? Tool weight might be the only thing at this point.
It's always possible, but I doubt it. People really like those smaller 12v tools, so I would be surprised to see them abandon them. Just wish they would come out with more of them actually
i guess it's possible they just make these batteries in a 12v configuration. nothing stopping them
No, look at the price.
I just wish they had larger than 1.7ah batteries. I don't have much faith in the run time of those smaller batteries. They might be alright when they're fresh out of the package but after a few months I hope they can hold a charge for more than 10 screws.
3 things in my mind. 1. How do they do on a charger? As in, can you leave them on there or not. 2. How do these pack stand up to drops!? Are they as tanky as 18605's that are in most current batteries ? 3. Operating in different temperatures. Enough said. Remains to be seen.
So far,
1. Been charging normal using a regular charger (left one charging over night) no issue so far.
2. Haven't drop it...yet (surprisingly) bit feels build quality up to par....time will tell.
3. Actually been running cooler that the standard 20v batteries. Mentioned that is yesterday's vid. Can be found at the end of this one
Im on team Milwaukee, but this battery is badass. Exactly what compact drills/drivers needed. It already blows the M18 3.0 HO out of the water with its size. I cant stand that milwaukee made their HO batteries stick out in front of the tool.
Best part of this video is the guy in the background lol.
I like these new battery’s but how will they compare to 21700 cell 4ah or 6ah. I have a lot of the 6 and 8ah batteries already. I don’t want to buy more battery’s if they don’t compare.
I'll do some testing 👊
Can you us it on the “DEWALT 1800 Watt Portable Power Station and 20-Volt/60-Volt MAX Lithium-Ion Battery Charger”, and use these instead of the flex volt battery?
It will be interesting to see when this comes out what the price to performance ratio is... for some situations the size matters, but if you can get a 4ah for less than this and it has same power, maybe lasts longer... Can't wait to see.
A regular 10 cell battery pack is going to match the power of this one, it is simply an upgrade for their smallest and cheapest batteries. It's only 1.7Ah, so the increase is in power not runtime compared to the old 2Ah.
@@Fekillix We will see of course, it will be interesting to see if the packaging increases efficiency so you get a higher % of the spec of watt hours. The numbers of actual usage vs max theoretical are always good to see.
Very impressed. So how is the power stack a 1.7ah battery if it gets more run time then a 2ah 20v battery? That don't seem like it's a 1.7ah to me
Good informative video. I would like to see these compared to the Flex stacked batteries.
Thanks Rishi! No mention from DEWALT on the stacked flex batteries yet, but I'll keep my ears open
Awesome. I will hold out till the likes of Metabo or a few others come out with their own pouch based batteries. How did Dewalt take into account pouch battery swelling during charging and discharging?
Not sure how they would do with a large m18 12ah pouch battery on a tablesaw on a hot day?
Very Real Nice Like👍👍👍 Thanks for the Great demo TRZ!
Haha, thanks Sean!!!!
I'm incredibly lucky that dewalt came out with that battery.
I _imported_ one of the Ryobi kyocera impact drivers from japan that was designed by Ken Okuyama and it's actually compatible with american dewalt batteries :)
Hello, Does the power stack last as long as the 18V and 5Ah one?thank you
I fucking love your videos and now im sold on a power stack good shit big dawg
This tech is needed for the flexvolt batteries to make them more compact.
Ima be honest, I think this could actually compete with the FLEXVOLT
@@ToolReviewZone my only concern is the duration of the battery. How many hours will it last per charger? I think something like this in the size of a flexvolt would be awesome.
I cant believe im sayin this, in public, what a departure, im actually envious jealous of him for a change... LOL jfk... maybe...
Thanks for video and review, much appreciated.
Will be interesting to find out what the actual chemistry these are. They seem like they are Lipo but maybe they are Li-ion... 🤔
That AH on either the Powerstack or the older style battery seems misleading. Not sure which one to believe. I wonder if Dewalt is punching downward with the Powerstack by underreporting the specs. Or do they inflate the specs of the older batteries... Something smells fishy.
Reading through the reviews on Amazon, and seeing a lot of negative reviews. The Stack battery has more power than the 2 amp regular DeWalt battery, but seems to have dismal run times. Definitely not worth the money based on the reviews I'm reading.
when you use an auger it has to be on low . unless its a hi speed auger
Excellent job on the vid!!!!
What’s important is the architecture of the battery, if they are a lithium polymer/ LiFePo then they are garbage and their lifespan will suffer greatly, the benefits of a better architecture are its ability to draw high amperage. That’s why Makita which uses Samsung,LG,and Sony, 18650 cells, anyone who was a serious vapor can tell you the Sony has the highest amp draw of all 18650 cells, but I will say your video shows that more is better and that’s why they are getting great amp draw, however what about LIFECYCLES charging, because if they are LiFePo they have less charging life cycles
I'd like to see this go up against and 8Ah Dewalt battery on a power detect tool. like a circular saw or sawzall
What do I take from this? Wherever possible use mains power.
That drill you using does not have three speeds?
Great video like aways .. thanks for all the information
Thanks Josue!!!!@
Ima put it in my hoodie.
Good idea actually 👌 👏