How to Change Bearings in Stans Bicycle Hubs
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ต.ค. 2024
- This video will show you how to change the bearings in Stans 3.30 hubs, both the front and rear hubs. I'll also show you how to change the free hub bearings.
This service is similar for all 3.30 Stans hubs but if yous are the HD hubs or road hubs I would recommend taking a quick look at the "ZTR/3.30 Hub Service Manual" at www.notubes.com (go to Help Center and look under Instructions).
Really useful service instruction. Thanks.
Apologies if anyone has posted this before, but using a piece of twine wrapped around the pawls allows you to slot the hub back on first time.
Another great how to video Clint. Some additinal info: 1- You can make a DIY bearing press using some threaded rod, assorted washers, sockets, and a pair of nuts. Use a pair of wrenches to tighten. 2- When bearings start to fully seat the torque required should suddenly ramp up a lot. Do not tighten anymore (check visually that bearings are flush with shell). 3- When tapping out bearings, keep them straight (just like when you pit them in)-you can also use a bearing puller tool specifically for this task.
Thanks so much for this video, Clint. It was extremely helpful. I was trying to simply clean and regrease my 3.30Ti hubs, but I could never figure out how to remove the rubber seal between the axle and freehub body - until I watched this video. Then I realized it's really a snap ring coated with rubber and covered in so much grease and grit that I couldn't see the holes in the ring. Apparently, the guy I bought the wheels from had never cleaned them. Your videos are very helpful and informative. Please keep them coming!
This is absolutely GOLDEN information right here!
I am not completely clueless, but my current bike is the first with these ring bearings and i have had my bike on a stand for a little while now, i cannot wait to go home and attempt this!
thank you so very much, you sir have earned yourself a new Subscriber.
love from the UK !
Heat and cold are your friends when removing or installing bearings. I like to use a heat gun or hair dryer to warm up (not real hot though, you don't want to damage any seals that may be there) the hub and put an ice cube on the bearing before you tap the bearing out. When installing the bearing, put the bearing in the freezer for a bit and warm up the hub. It is amazing how much the interference fit will be lessened by the combo of the cold bearing and the warm hub.
Nice tip. Thanks.
Working on a set of Stans Crest with 3.30 hubs, not really knowing what to do other than clean up the mess. Then, "What about a Clint Gibbs TH-cam video describing how to do the bearings?" BAM!!! By goodness Clint! (Thanks!)
+Levi Davis glad I could help. 😀
I use fishing line to get the pawls back into the body... works really well... just surround the pawls with the fishing line, push in 1/2 way, remove the line, and then push the freehub all the way in .
Hoo my God... The best video U ever found.. Thanks s ok much for taking the time in doing it... awesome job and clear explanations... Ir can't get better than this. I don't understand why someone people click thumps down. Now I have a good understanding about this process. I have almost brand new electric bike and the front wheel started making a metal grounding noise in the front bearing. It sounds like something is breaking inside.. I don't understand the reason. It's a 2 months old bike. But I ride in the rain and snow making food deliveries in New York City.. it maybe the salt and dirty water from the streets that are destroying the bearings..
Great video - I like how clear and detailed your explanations are, and the video quality is excellent. Thanks for posting!
Thx for your old but excellent video. I’ve just replaced the original bearings in my ten year old Stan’s Arch wheels. TBH they were not too bad. Amazing. Anyway, new NTNs now fitted as per your instructions. Cheers.
Great video, thanks man. Had to do my rear bearings, was making a creak-like sound when pedaling. On the front wheel, I couldn't push that sleeve nearly enough out of the way, but luckily the bearings are still like new. For anybody about to do this, they have small Wheels Manufacturing bearing press kits all put together on ebay, but don't forget you'll likely need to buy the handles. It needs to have the over axle pieces. Driftset-Hub1 worked flawlessly for me.
put the bearings in the freezer a day before you do this, they'll go in that much easier... an old trick I learned when from the dirtbike world.
So timely, I have been putting this off for a few months.
Getting the normal 9mm quick release end caps can be frustrating difficult and take more force than one may expect.
With some of the rear hubs, there is both a spacer and a thin washer under the freehub.
This is the same procedure for the Sun Ringle black flag series wheelset and the dirty flea hubs. Great video BTW
The bearings that came out are LBLU type, non-contact seal (black) facing inwards. Replacing them with the Enduro LLB seal-type bearings will result in roughly twice as more seal friction by adding unnecessary contact seals facing inwards towards one another.
Hi to all , I and issue with my bike , I replaced de hubs bearing , after first ride I noticed that my wheels are little play side to side , thanks for you help . Keep pedaling !!!
Great video. Very informative. Please keep this posted for future reference. Thanks again!
thanks for taking the time to post this tutorial. Very helpful.
Great video! This was super helpful! Thanks!
Great demonstration, thank you for sharing
17mm husky brand deep socket from home depot work very well for installing the bearings
wow, hub professional great video!!
Clint, your vids are great and very helpful.... I sell bearings for a living... next time you have a need send me a message ...John
John George Sounds good! Thanks!
Very good video.
I've tried before to change the hub bearings with some sockets and a hammer before, and to install the new ones it is a nightmare to get them straight, a bearing press makes everything much easier.
Are you also going to makea video on how to change the frame bearings? That would be very helpful...
I would like to but it will be awhile before I change frame bearings again. It's pretty similar to hub bearings. You would just pull the pivots apart and then tap out the bearings and then press in the new ones. The main thing you have to watch out for it is when you pull the pivots apart there are usually spacers in there so you have to pay attention to how they go.
+Clint Gibbs Yeah please do pivet bearings.
You helped me a lot with your detailed video. I plan on servicing a Sun Ringle SRC Fatbike Hub and it appears that the hub you showed and my fat bike hub are quite similiar. In fact I read elsewhere that Sun Ringle manufactures hubs for Stan's.
I got told by a mechanican that he always renews the loctite fluid, e.g. at the screws holding a traditional disc rotor. I saw that at the end of the axle the screw cap is secured like that. It appears that you did not renew it. Did you have any trouble with the cap becoming loose after you did the service? Thanks in advance and thumbs up for the clip!
+Ride Frifjell no, I did not have any problems with the cap coming loose.
Very helpful Clint, thanks!
Big help. Thanks a lot
Very good video.I'd ask you what type of enduro bearings did you use, abec 3 (blu ring) or abec 5 (black ring)?Thank you very much
Hello and forst of all thank you very much for your great video Im a rider and Mechanic from Iran ....
I had a question Mr, when we tap the bearings while the rim is seated at a corner maybe against a wall or something doesnt the tapping force make the rim untrue ???
And another thing some rear hubs inside their freehub have that retaining ring after the inner bearing i mean between the sleeve & the inner bearing .........just why ??
My last question is why are those inner sleeves loose i mean what are they going to do ? whats their purpose ?
Chaeers from Iran ...
Hi Clint... Brilliant video... It wa a great help in doing bearing service on formula hubs
I have a problem though... If I nip up drive side cap and put the wheel back, wheel does not roll freely, when tightened in frame...
Having that screw cap loose it turns beautifully but seems to lead to thru axle loosening while riding...
Would be delighted to solve this
The formula hub is almost identical to the stans hub you serviced in video...
Have u any ideas on what might be the problem?
Very informative. Thank you!!
Excellent video, thanks!
Very usefull. Thanks
My cycle hub's slot ,in which axle gets in ,is bent. Can you please tell me what to do with it
someone should buy his used bearings..its a good deal..
Jamessr23 I actually used 4 of the 6 in my frame pivots! I broke down my frame to clean the pivots and noticed a few weren't totally smooth. The main pivots used a pair of 6902 and 6802 bearings
Clint Gibbs ha good..I would say you are the most meticulous biker I know. Any one buying a bike from you is getting a quality piece
Yeah, I've had my Anthem for about 15 months and I am giving it a full overhaul.
Super useful
Hi what is the name or brand of the press tool ?
And thanks for the video, helps a lot.
+salvatere Made by Wheels Manufacturing: wheelsmfg.com/presses-tools.html
Bearings should be pressed in by the outer race or both inner and outer. If you press in via inner races, you are pre-damaging/wearing the races, balls and cages.
Sir clint nice tutorial. How do I know if my boost hubs have the same type/size of bearings as yours?
You may need to contact the hub manufacturer or have a local bike shop look at it. It's not like there are a ton of bearing sizes out there but some hubs do vary.
Great visual explanation for anyone redoing stan's hubs, I just did my dtswiss and syntace hub bearings without too much trouble. I like though how you were able to use the axle on the stan's rear to eject the bearings. One question I have for you though is how do you like the pawl system versus what dt uses which is 2 plates with teeth... the dt system is much simpler and I think possibly less likely to fail (I remember shimano rear pawls breaking in the 90's. Any thoughts on this system vs the other, benefits and drawbacks?
+robwas can't give you a lot of plus/minus comparison but I've never had an issue wth Stan's freehubs. They are EXTREMELY easy to work on.
From your video I could see they're easy to maintain. After writing this I realized DT swiss actually has a patent on the design with the 2 plates. They keep making them with more and more points of engagement, ie, finer teeth which seems great so you get instant forward motion when doing trails like stuff but the downside I'm finding are those smaller teeth can wear down faster and slip. Another thing about hubs, as much as I like my Germany made syntace ones I don't think I'd buy them again because getting parts or doing warranty claims now seems a real hassle as there are no dealers in the usa selling parts. I just wrote a letter, curious what service I'll get. When I bought them there was a usa dealer and the manager even gave me his cell number, getting parts wasn't an issue. I used to buy products on what I thought was the greatest and coolest but now I find myself doing my research prior to buying and checking out things like cost of replacement parts and availability as well as ease of self service. I wonder, say for example you needed one of those small pawl springs, everything else was ok but one broke... would you be able to get that or would you have to buy an entire kit of parts that cost 80 dollars? I've had those instances too many times with otherwise pristine parts but one small component failed (like the bracket axle assembly on an xtr derailleur).
Finally got around to replacing my front hub 6902 bearing on 110mm Specialized front hub. When I got the end caps off and tried to push the spacer between the bearings, like you did with your finders on the video, to tap out the bearings it would not budge. I noticed one side of the hub is a not quite round, a little off. Could that make the spacer not budge?? The wheel is a little out of true.
Valeu pela explicação eu estava com dúvidas sobre a quantidade de graxa que eu deveria passar no rolamento.
Another great video. How do you know that the bearings are bad? I have about 5000 miles on my gravel bike with Stan's Grail wheelset. I have a grinding sound in the rear under load. I'm certain it's not coming from the derailleur.
the best way to tell is just to put your finger in the bearings and spin them. If they feel sticky or crunchy then it's time to replace them. There are times where they will make noises but still feel smooth. Replace them in those cases as well.
@@ClintGibbs Thanks Clint. I just went to the LBS. They believe the spokes are loose.
On the front hub how did you align the sleeve with the inner races of each bearing?
Hi Great video. Is this the same for a Giant Anthem as the rear shaft does not want to budge. Great channel thanks
This house are most likely made by DT Swiss. Other than removing the free hub body, I've actually never had to take those parts so I can't say for sure.
@@ClintGibbs Thanks for the help and keep up the good work.
You can push the new bearing with the old bearing.
Great video, where do I get the spacers/drifts that will go over the 3.3 hub axle ? I have a basic amazon Chinese press kit but no spacers/drifts
I got them as a whole kit from Wheels Manufacturing. I have not looked into trying to find individual parts. The kits are expensive but saves a lot of time in the long run.
Great vid clint. I just check my bearings on my stans neo and i felt a gritty feel when I was rotating the rear axle. I took the whole thing apart and regreased both bearings,etc. and it was still feeling grtting when rotated. I removed the seal to expose the bearings and they looked good and greased. what could be causing this? Thanks!
+Peter Pancho probably just some fine dirt or sand particles that got inside the bearings. That would be my guess. I would just replace the bearings with new ones.
good job thanks
Hey man thanks for tha video. Do you know how much normally cots to replace bearings on tha shop?
Hey awesome video, where abouts did you get that bearing press from with all the spacers? cheers.
I ordered it through my local bike shop. It's made by Wheels Mfg.
@@ClintGibbs brilliant thank you, I have just had a look online there not cheap but look like an awesome bit of kit
Hey Clint...Could you tell the bearing press brand? İt looks nice
+ahmet kayakusu Wheels Manufacturing
Hi Clint, how often do you change your frame bearings on the maestro suspension? Is there one or some of the bearing positions that last less? I am thinking about adding a ceramic bearing to the places that are more solicited. I don't know where the creak is coming from. I am surprised how the bearings on the maestro don't last. Maybe it's the design? A small price to pay for a lot of plushness, I know. thanks.
Very good vedio.
Just tap it in..tap, tap, tappy!
How do you center the sleeve? I thought the sleeve is meant to put a preload on the bearings, so that when tightening the QR sqever it can loosen up a bit.
The sleeve is only in there to allow the axle to go through and then tap out the bearings with the collars. The sleeve automatically centers when you press in each of the bearings.
what bearing press do you recommend? thanks
Wheels MFG
You were able to slide the sleeve on your front hub easily with you finger. My Stans front hub sleeve won't move more than a couple millimeters. Any suggestions to get to move more? As it is now, I can't tap out the old bearings because that sleeve is in the way. Thoughts?
+Joey Pulone maybe just try taking a wide flat blade screwdriver or some type of long object like that for leverage and pushing it down. Let me know if that works.
Did you have any luck with moving it? I also tried using leverage and it didn't budge more than a few millimetres making it impossible to get my bearings out
+harry wr No, I wasn't able to move the sleeve more than a couple millimeters. Not enough social could get any tool in there so I could tap out the bearings. I contacted Stans to get their thoughts. They recommended a bearing removal tool from Wheels Manfacturing. wheelsmfg.com/presses-tools/bearing-extractors/6002-6802-6902-15mm-sealed-bearing-extractor.html
It worked perfectly. Problem solved.
I just had a go again and actually tapped the sleeve on the edge very carefully and it became looser and actually used the sleeve to force the bearing out. Give that a go if you're still having trouble.
Can these bearings be installed in a regular bicycle hub. So one can do away with the factory cheesy bearings????,,,
What if the sleeve will not move out of the way?
I have this issue, not sure what to do?
13:43 , the part which you are removing is bent what can i do with ot
Careful Clint, you're going to turn a garbage man into a rocket surgeon. I have a dumb question. What stops you from pressing the bearing in too far? Is there a seat for the bearing which prevents it from going farther in? Thanks
+John Smith you'll feel a definite increase in effort once it hits the inside of the Hub. From there just snug it up ever so slightly and you're done.
Any tip on removingthe end caps? I got a 15mm hub i want to service because it sounds dry and can't by the life of me remove the end caps. I dried heavy duty pliers with inner tube so i dont scratch the black paint but it still got scratched and the cap didn't even nudge
Some have a screw on them
Its the same process for a road wheel? Like vision wheels
Yes
If the spacer causes drag Can we replace the spacer with another bearings ?
That’s something I think you would need to talk to Stans about directly.
On my Stan's 3.30 rear hub (a close cousin of the 3.3HD in this video), the freehub doesn't slide off easily after removing the threaded drive side end cap. I couldn't pull it off with my bare hands and didn't want to resort to using tools for a supposedly tool-less job. Anyone else run into this problem?
Do you have to use a bearing press tool?
Yes. You could in theory use a socket wrench and a hammer but a bearing press tool is going to be the best option.
why my front wheel is moving side to side,where its coming from into the hub and in the bearing.my hub is thread type only
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How do you know what size bearings you need? I am replacing the front wheel bearings on a 26" downhill mountain bike
+Dean Danis is it a Stan's Hub? If so just have your bike shop order directly from Stan's. If it's not a Stan's hub then see if you can look up the specs from the manufacturer.
Ok thank you. I wasn't able to find the hub brand so I'm going to try and find the specs on the bikes website. I didn't know if there was a standard size or if it's specific but now I know. Thanks again.
Any vids on wheel truing ??
I'll definitely add that one to my topic list that I have going. Modern wheels have become so good that they rarely need truing so its been awhile but that's definitely a good topic. Thanks.
+Clint Gibbs . . .Cheers . .
Maybe try NTN bearings next time. They last forever
With it
I’ve been working on a 3.30RD rear to convert the axle to 142 but when I screw the drive side cap back on, the freehub drags on a lot to the point that it is hard for it to spin. I do have the spacer back in but I think it is not making enough contact. Any suggestions?
My only guess would be that spacer that goes between the Hub in the freehub (if I'm recalling correctly).
Are rear hub axles compatible as long as they're the same size? Say one brands 12x142 and another brands 12x142?
Yes. You may have to realign the brake calipers.
I dont think you understood my ?
@@LuisManuelHdez I understood. What I'm saying is yes they will fit but the spacing for the disc may be slightly different between brands so you may have to readjust your caliper.
My dilemma is this.. the rear hub on my SJ is formula, which is similar to dt swiss. I want to upgrade to a ratchet system from its 3 pawl but my axle will not allow it. Was thinking a dt swiss axle might solve this. Thanks for the replies.
Hey, the sleeve in my front hub only goes moves a little when a push it very hard (have tried many ways) to push the sleeve. My front hub is a novatec from a 2017 Kona process 153. Would anyone plz help me!!
good afternoon how are you doing?
Whats the size of the bearing??
Hey I need your help please I have a bike that need bearings can't get them in Jamaica so if you can help me that would be great thanks
Hello. What is the brand of the bearing press?
Wheels MFG
You can overhaul the bearings pull off the seal and lube. But never use a socket to install that only put pressure on one chase when need on both for even pressure. Recommend a Bearing Press or take to your LBS
You don't know much about bearing maintenance, when you call bearing races "chase" Also you only apply pressure to the single race which is in contact to the surface being pressed into.
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There is a weird noise from my hub. One bike mechanic said that I need a new freehub driver, but the main one that I go to said that The QR wasn't properly screwed in. The noise cam back and I took it to him. He now said that after he had the bike for 2 weeks that he was re-packing the bearings. I'm picking it up tomorow. I can't recreate the noise after he does that, it has to be pushed hard in a trail. What do you think I should do becuase my lbs is about 40k from me which is about 1.5 hr drive because it is downtown.
What kind of hubs? I'm assuming they have loose bearings (not cartridge bearings like in Stans)?
Clint Gibbs dude, let me just say ur like the Flash with how quick u respond. But yes I think they are loose bearings. They are the ones that come stock on a giant anthem 27.5 3. Btw congrats on over 1 million views on your cleaning video. It helped me a lot☺☺☺
I would just see if the re-pack solves the problem and go from there.
Ok cool. Could a repack solve the problem?
Yes, if the bearings were too loose or too tight and/or if there was not enough grease
where you get the bearing press Clint ?
I ordered it through my local bike shop. Qbp bike wholesaler carries them and most shops can order from them.
My axle won’t budge, and I’ve hit it bloody hard. Any ideas?
Try Springs and WD-40 between the bearings and the Hub and letting it sit overnight. Lay the wheel sideways so it can work its way in there.
what brand of bearings are using.... ?????
+Jafet Bautista Enduro
Grease Calcio? or Litiun?
What bearing press are you using? Do you have a link to purchase a set?
Wheels MFG
@@ClintGibbs yep. I got mine from them and it worked great
@@thomas2cooper 🙂
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yea well this is just dandy if we all had posh components. Everywhere I look I do not see "how to remove axle and replace bearings on a rear wheel"??????????
are those ceramic bearings?
+giannis tsolas they are not ceramic
i ride on formula 20 hubs. can I replace bearings in them ??
I'm not familiar with those hubs but as long as they have sealed bearings like these then you should be able to.
Thanks for making the video, but it's kind of annoying that you go to all the trouble to make a 25 minute video and not provide more details on how to use the bearing press. For example on the side of the bearing press where you are not driving in the bearing, do you place the same size drift (like 6902), and then use spacers?
What sizes are the bearings?
+James Geronimo I honestly can't remember. It's been a while since I posted the video. You should be able to find the bearing sizes on Stan's website.
What bearing press do you suggest?
+Bobcatt22 I use the one from Wheels Manufacturing and it works really well.
A whopping 248.00 for a 42-piece set. www.ebay.com/itm/Wheels-Manufacturing-Large-Sealed-Bearing-Press-42-Piece-Bicycle-Tool-PRESS-1-/382223453136?epid=1800029205&hash=item58fe4b0bd0:g:rnkAAOSwJJVZtLKP / www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.TRS5&_nkw=Wheels+Manufacturing+Sealed+Bearing+Press&_sacat=0
You don't need to buy the whole set. Wheels MFG sells the press and adapters separately. That's $35+$7.50+$7.50 in case of this video.
Minus ➖ points for dropping DS cap.
Why would you change bearings after a year? I am puzzled.
The front ones were making a little bit of a clicking noise. Changing them resolved it. The back ones I did just because I was doing the front ones, and I'm meticulous about maintenance.
+Clint Gibbs Ohh, ok. I didn't understand why bearings would be worn after only few months. Thanks
Changing the bearings so early probably had something to do with their fragility, since their primary use in smaller sized hubs is largely aimed at reducing weight. I've had the same problem with my rear 3.30 hub after about a year also.
Spank hub pretty much the same
Why not go Ceramic bearings next time? :D
+MarChe Chan Full-ceramic isn't a good idea for wheel bearings, you only want hybrid silicon nitride with steel races in the wheels. Full ceramic races tend to explode when you hit something that is too rough.
You would have to do much more than 200000 miles to have to replace this machine type bearings.
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