Bomani Jones Joins the Show | Brian Flores Lawsuit REACTION | The Dan LeBatard Show with Stugotz
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- Bomani Jones joins us today to discuss the Brian Flores lawsuit against the NFL.
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I will never not enjoy hearing Bomani's take on anything. Agree or disagree, Bo knows how to deliver a thought.
Fax man’s brilliant
I would add one the best to ever do it. He is absolutely my favorite person in Sports Media.
He always presents something I never considered.
I also appreciate how carefully he thinks through things. Even if it's a hot take, he'll break down why it's not as hot as you think. The fact that this man doesn't have more awards for the work he does is beyond me.
agreed
"Its that white in your gut"
☠🤣
Was looking forward to Bo's take on this. I didn't know if he would get it on the pod today, so thanks for this!
Dan-“what won’t change”
Bomani- “ White people!”
All facts 💯
Naw, fuck your racism. What's not changing is you can be openly racism against white people. As evidenced by your comment. I really hope one day your eyes can be uncovered
My man said "its that white in yo gut!" HAHA
This entire exchange was gold.
Bomani is hilarious…”nobody wanna stand with the dude out here screencappin” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lol bruh delivery on point
🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀
“Bill Belichek has left the chat.” Haha.
Look its a Highly Questionable reunion!
Thank you guys for covering this I appreciate it as a black man ♥️ u Dan
Flores's lawsuit forces the NFL to prove its stance that the"Roony Rules isn't a shame, a farce. It forces the NFL to present documentation. Not good for the NFL. Exposing their their"dirty laundry isn't what they want. And without legal confrontation in regards to racism and bigotry, change can't happen. You can't force people NOT to racist or bigoted. But you can certainly hold them accountable for their actions and behaviors.
Bomanis best line and answer is the same thing I think when it comes to Trumplicans and all conservatives... "what won't change?"... white people.
As soon as I saw bomani I’m all in
Honesty is refreshing.
You wont find it here
Good to see BO AND DAN BACK TOGETHER AGAIN!!!!!!
Love Bomani’s takes 👏🏿
Bomani is easily the 🐐
The way Bomani is able to add clarity to any topic is amazing.
Brilliant
His take on anything is so idiotically simplistic I am astonished anyone could say otherwise..his entire life hinges on hatred for whites..racism in this country is fomented by liberals trying to keep blacks, small b, on the plantation.. bomani jones is a hack and a grifter
"It's that white in your guy!" Is perhaps the greatest thing I've ever heard Bo say. And that's a long list of greatness lol
Funny if it was a white analyst that said "It's that black in your guy." You wouldn't think it was great and then cry racism.
@@hansolo6101 I actually wouldn't because I'm not overly sensitive and have a sense of humor. If you listen to EVERYTHING Bo said you'd know he wasn't being racist. It's true. If you don't think there's something wrong with the hiring practices of the NFL you're either remarkably ignorant, or you yourself might be part of the problem... 🤷♂️
@@shaneclement1194 My point is that if a white analyst said anything like that they would be fired on the spot. Yeah I do see something wrong with the hiring practices of the NFL. The Rooney rule is embarrassment to everyone. Owners can hire whomever they want. Not be forced to because of skin color.
@@hansolo6101 the Rooney rule doesn't force any team to hire a black coach. It was instituted to force them to merely consider and interview at least one black candidate, since before the rule, most teams didn't even consider interviewing black head coaching candidates, let alone interview one. It's not consideration based on race, it's addressing the fact that the white owners and execs did not consider qualified people because of their race.
@@hansolo6101 your point isn't confusing. It's just not at all accurate......no matter how many times you say it.
Bomani is it terrific guest. Excellent segment
yessssss i was waiting on Bomani
I miss Bo so much. His Thursday co-hosting spot was how I started listening to you guys in 2013.
One of the greatest eras of this show 💯
I'm rooting for Flores in this lawsuit. The Rooney Rule is a sham. There are plenty of instances of black coaches being set up for failure. I hope change can be made on either the owner's side or on the league side so that we can see more minority coaches prove themselves
I’m rooting for justice. If they discriminated in this case then I hope he wins. Rooting for one side without all the facts seems asinine.
@@SuperReviews4you that's fair. I guess I'm assuming that what Flores is bringing to the table is valid evidence. I hope it brings to light a lot of bad owners in the league and change is made
Absolutely, he's going up against 30 billionaires with so much private capital and power. He's probably going to lose, but that's really not the point.
Dude, he turned down tom Brady for Fitzpatrick. I would have fired a green mother fucker for doing that. Lol
Want to list some of these "plenty of instances"? At the end of the day the coaches are in charge of the team and if the team fails its on them. You think these owners care what color their coaches are if they win and make their team money? There's more black people in all levels of coaching today than there ever has been. This entire case is just I didn't get the job I wanted so lets use the race card. This is what happens when you have modern America making everything about race. It's also laughable he tries to say the league is like a plantation. I'm pretty sure everyone here would love to be on a plantation where you play 17 games a year and make millions of dollars.
Bomani is someone that when he talks you gotta stop and listen. He’s that good!
Getting a 'Mr. Bigg - Trial Time' reference is just AMAZING!
Jim Adler "The Texas Hammer" is an ambulance chasing, legal legend here on Texas television! I appreciate Bomani mentioning him! 😂
Black coaches don't get rehired. His head coaching career was over the minute he got fired.
Exactly, he knew he was done.
Stephen Ross already out it iut there that he was difficult to work with which is corporate jargon for don't hire them.
@@andysawyer647 we all know that's all it would take. Owners talk outside of football, they just like regular ppl only with a helluva lot more money
Bomani Jones, the best in the business.
Bo Knows… How to explain anything!
This lawsuit is absolutely delicious. As a Chargers fan... im sitting back and thinking... all this started with Tua/Burrow pick ... and the fact that for the last 2 years Herbert was making the Tua pick look like trash. Again Delicious!!!!
I'm enjoying every bit of it
8:47 "The White Folks don't care and the black folks don't have leverage" Truer words have never been spoken.
Facts
Like white folks that aren't in a certain tribe have any leverage.
@@mikeknox7453 Are you being a victim or telling the truth? Asking for a friend...
Flores has done the math and realizes he can get paid more in a settlement than he could get coaching another team, being fired, and out the league or bounce around as a coordinator. Settlement numbers from my firm are guessing somewhere in the 40 to 60 million range depending on how much comes out in discovery.
You may have a great point, it's a money thing because I thought he was still a candidate for a few of the open jobs. He can definitely kiss the few jobs he's still in the running for goodbye with this lawsuit, that is for sure. it would be Ironic if the Texans had drafted a proposal to him yesterday and file 13'd that this morning.
This is about discover. If he can prove any one of those things with hard evidence. The NFL will cough up money, just like with Kaepernick. They made a offer because they found something and they rather pay and let it go away than stand in court and admit it.
Gem: “Slavery was an economic system.” Period. Point blank.
Is.
And every company and athlete with a nike deal exploits slave labor for profit.
Right now. Not 200 years ago.
Slavery was capitalism
@@7srchoed Tell that to the kulaks.
Bomani is so damn good at this.
TY BO. Literally applauded his accurate, realistic analysis on "plantation" diction. How far is right going to take u...bc here's comes the hijack, the "goal post moving," the swerve from the real issue. 100%. Method & words DO matter. Bo is too good.
Bomani went Mr. Bigg on em!!!
I enjoy listening to 80 because I always feel like I learn something. He’s insightful and nuanced on difficult subjects in a way that nobody else can match.
“Let’s go out to…80.”
Cece you're on the air
😂😂😂 Y'all get the show!!!
I love Bomani's analysis. He convinces me every time.
Brian Flores Lawyers should chat with Jon Gruden's Lawyers see what type of dirt that Jon has and if saved any of those emails or text messages lol.
Good idea
I am sure those texts will come out and they might have to go retroactive on ALL THOSE texts and see whos discussing what with whom and the nature of the conversations.
Bomani’s the best.
Bomani is right, that Tampa team under Coach Ra was expected to lose, and that 2010 season essentially threw a wrench in all of those plans. Raheem was a fantastic coach and absolutely should be on the list of legit candidates.
Raheem Morris was so young, the Bucs were so bad, there was no chance of success. I think he 100% will get another chance and i'd expect him to do a hell of a good job this time around
He said Morris and Culley...I can add Steve Wilks in Arizona, Romeo Crennel in Houston, and Perry Fewell in Buffalo. All one and done.
"Nope. Tried that, not again"
Bo too funny
I never thought about that lol no white cornerbacks. The last person I remember was Jason sehorn I think..
Troy Apke. He was terrible last year.
Because in order to get drafted, you gotta be an All American or All conference level player. There are NO white cornerbacks in college football who have that status.
As a lawyer who works on employment discrimination cases, I don’t know why people think this is a loser case. 1) why would the NY lawyers take on this case if it’s a loser of a case; 2) the burden of proof in title VII cases (civil rights act of 1964) is “preponderance of evidence” or more than 50% (not definitive proof, not beyond a reasonable doubt); 3) the sham interview is enough evidence to make out a prima facie case of discrimination in the employment context.
I think the NFL and particularly the giants are in trouble here.
Bullshit.
It's a loser case specifically against the Giants.. those text are gossip and hearsay... now where it has teeth is the Rooney rule and why there is only 1 black coach
He's just saying it because that's the norm. Don't get what you want? Whine about race. There were 4 other white guys that didn't get the job either. Smh. This is just what the democrats have enabled. So now its a crutch. He had the opportunity to get Brady last year. Instead he stuck with Fitzpatrick. That alone will get you fired. Even if you're green. Funny how he's suing 3 teams though huh? The dude just had a shot a head coach and failed. He had disagreements with the front office constantly.
@@user-yx8md6vu3j this dude had differences with the front office, he had a shot a Brady and chose Fitzpatrick. And he was mediocre. I would have fired him if he was purple.
I respect and can accept what Bomoni Jones says . For some reason he speaks and I wanna listen.
"I need to ask y'all" lol... He's right.
How did ESPN screw up making solid use of Bo for this many years??
great show
The lawsuit will not be dismissed. They stated a prima facie case. Bo and Dan have zero idea of what they are talking about.
Foxworth Friday is going to be glorious this week.
I think Flores was like "eff all that". Which is funny.
"it dat white in yo gut"... 😂
Dan saying he can't recall an owner bafooning his way through some of these things...I would refer you to Robert Sarver...
"How you get that white out idk"
How does Bomani not have a Jim Rome kind of show? If there is anyone that is the Jim Rome of today, it is Bomani.
Because he’s racist, and gets really low ratings.
@@loganoutdoors9730 How is he racist?
@@KK-pm7ud Because he regularly uses prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group regularly.
@@loganoutdoors9730 A tautology
@@KK-pm7ud I could try saying it a third way if it helps
The solution is not for those White owners to change, they won't and they shouldn't have to, the solution is for rich Black and Brown folk to own a league of their own. I understand Flores highlighting the issue's but ultimately, Black and Brown ownership is the solution.
Facts
The Cover Your Ass rule, I mean the Rooney Rule, needs to go
Because it things were great beforehand.
Bomani always has an amazingly engaging way of presenting information
I wonder if past coaches can be included in the class action. Art Shell, Denny Green, Ray Rhodes, etc
RIP DENNY GREEN
Green was a head coach for 14 years why would he be included???
Shell is kind of an outlier as Al Davis, who knew Shell on a personal level and was a maverick, hired him. Not to say that Art didn’t deserve the shot, but ONLY Davis ever hired him, and he took the Raiders to the AFC Championship game AND had an overall winning record.
The case study for me is Pete Carroll, who had a losing record with the Jets in ‘94. He then was hired 3 years later by the Pats and had an average record. He THEN was hired 11 years later in 2010 by the Seahawks where he’s had success.
Not saying that Carroll shouldn’t have had these opportunities but we ALL know that the average Black applicant ain’t even getting the FIRST opportunity and THEN have to be at LEAST as good as Carroll in his 3rd stint just to have a chance to KEEP the damn job! Bill Belicheck had 4/5 LOSING seasons as the Browns coach and then landed the Pats job 5 years later….so, read that as you will..!
@@twilitezn Those are good points and think about what black HC has had 3 HC jobs to your point?
John Fox, Pete Carroll, Norv Turner have all had 3. No black HC has and very few black HC get a second shot (Herm, Ray Rhodes, Denny Green, Dungy, Lovie are the ones I can think of, and I guess Art Shell may count be hired by the Raiders twice)
@@genius179 I would also say that the ones that you mention - with the exception of Shell - were all employed roughly around the same time - a golden era smdh.
I disagree with Dan's take often on all his grief eating and race talk, but Bo is always at least coming from a concrete position and can talk with tact and understands the ACTUAL nuances when talking about race that at least has the chance of real change.
Man every time the show talks to Bomani its damn good. About to watch it again!
100%
Wait, so saying white people are the problem 3 times obnoxiously is a nuanced way to talk about race? What change? Ultimately in the end, the fundamental change whatever is, would be decided by white people on whether or not to give and do more for minorities.
@@hansolo6101 context matters...had he just said white people obnoxiously 3 times, it would have been just as condescending and worthless as dan and mike just callously saying we live in a racist country. But Bo gives the listener more than rhetoric, he doesnt allow people to come at him with "not all white people" so the dialog can move beyond that back and forth. He even calls it out that you cant call people racist and expect any actual development because people just get defensive or offensive to protect themselves. Bo aint perfect, but he reminded me of daryl davis in this pod, which in my opinion is a high compliment to bo or anyone.
Hue Jackson just threw his hat into the pot
I am almost certain that all NFL Teams that were looking for a QB; already knew that Flores was not going to break any rules to satisfy any NFL owner. The word was out ( Allegedly by Ross) on Flores and so he had no shot on getting hire by any NFL team.
Flores's lawsuit is just saying what everybody already knows
Answer to all problems solutions: Waipipo 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Excellent as always Bomani.
I am all in on Bomani's HBO show! Very glad that I walked away from the NFL years ago. As a business, it's low-moral bar makes me sick.
Bomani speaking the truth
"I started selling dope back in 1986..... my crack taste like ribs" Only the goat Bomani would drop Mr. Bigg
The Best play
The Best coach!!
.....its really that simple
I'm no lawyer but I don't think you have to prove your case in the complaint phase. And at that part of the lawsuit, everything the Plaintiff states has to be taken as true. The other thing is, I don't think he's trying to prove racism, but rather discrimination. I think his going to file EEOC charges, which again is discrimination, not racism.
Cbs, CNN, and Espn all in the morning
Bomani gotta update his webcame game to 2022. I've been saying this for 2+ years now.
Dude was comfortable, twisting his hair like he's with homies chilling on the dtoop.
Bomani with the Mr. Biggs reference
Lebatard has gotten huge 😮
Bomani is pointing out the problem in the NFL when it comes to power and negotiations: there's no solidarity. Its the key for all working-class movements
Get em Bomani!!!!
BLACK AMERICA THE NFL IS NOT WORTHY OF YOUR SUPPORT!
NFL has created more black millionaires than any entity in world history.
Why are you so invested in taking that away? Because people who profiteer on black suffering told you to?
Yall hurt black people more than the Klan ever could.
Shhhhh….. I can see your trying to string coherent thoughts together. It’s disconcerting. Have a cookie instead.
@@ThaSound You want to disregard actual meaningful change both through the generational wealth created, and the community work those same players and the league put in to the community on the ground.
Because you want a few more NFL coaches to be black.
It's like you want black people to suffer. One is a symbolic thing. The other has a real world impact.
You're being played. The NFL is pumping out black millionaires. Any group in america would see that as a win, but you'd throw it away for a symbolic gesture.
🍪 c’mon, it’s Chocolate Chiiiiiiiip!
Flores didn't call the Alabama Hammer either!
Bomani said he was suprised that Ross didn't do his homework on Flores before making the alleged tanking offers.
Flores has a good rep and you would think Dolphins would avoid people with integrity. But Ross, like the other owners, are so arrogant he doesnt care if he gets caught.
The Giants GM came from Buffalo. Owner gave him a task rehab Danny Dimes. To do this he got the OC he personally knows from his last job tht developed Josh Allen. This was the decision he made the moment he got hired. Inversely look at Flores record of bucking his leadership (a black gm), he refused to tank so they end up with Tua instead of Burrow, instead of developing Tua he benches him 1st quarter for Fitzpatrick, then refused a meeting with either Watson or Brady. The job of this coach is to fix Danny Dimes why wud u hire Flores considering how he botched QB in three major ways for Miami?
He might actually have hired Jose Baes if it were a criminal case. Jose has quite the track record and isn't afraid to go against the big guys. The team Flores picked doesn't seem to mess around, either, and they have a personal relationship with him from what i have gathered. Definitely agreed regarding Brady. He isn't the victory lap kind of guy. That said, I dislike that insiders feel the need to announce retirements before athletes have a chance to do so. They did Andrew Luck so dirty and learned nothing from it.
Anyone else picture Mero sprinkling 'allegedly' whenever that word is used onscreen?
Love Bo! He and Jemele my favs, and Mina up there, too.
Bomani on fire!
Good luck Bo
If Flores can make a argument to get to discovery, the NFL will fold. The NFL isn’t opening pandora box of phone numbers and emails for a jury to review.
I hope Brian takes his behind to an HBCU like Dion
Funny how he’s suing the NFL for discrimination against black folks but Brian hasn’t did 1 interview with any black owned media company. 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤣🤣
Bill knows wat he did.. he don't fuck up often!
" You Play To Lose " 😕
I don’t think Bill sent the text by mistake..
This nigga said, "40 pages of dis is how dey do" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
So is Stugotz Bo’s weed man. Lol.
Pretty sure MatPat has a trademark on Game Theory.
what if BB sent on purpose...attack Goodell
That’s right Eric Waddle is white …
RIP The Last Mr. Bigg.
HAD EM STEALIN OUT THEY CRIB CUZ MY CRACK TASTE LIKE RIBS
Bomani didn't read the lawsuit.
I kinda wish phins threw the season. I kinda wish we got Brady. Lol. Tua’s comments on Flores being hard to work with. Not knowing how to talk to people. Is an interesting comment…¿
QB plan would have worked if they didn’t pass on Herbert.
To this I day remember when the Rooney rule started and Jerry Jones paraded Coach Sherman ( I think that was his name) but he was an offensive coordinator for GB . It was awful and it all was stunt.
Bo da 🐐🐐