And yet in the end, House was the first one to not allow himself to be in anyone's pocket. He pointed out this guy didnt give a damn about his patients, and he did it in public.
@@alfa-psi , if I worked with a person like House, and I was their boss I’d give him a raise and promotion because nobody at all should give up their integrity for profits at all.
@@jameswashere187 , I wouldn’t force a person like Gregory House to shill for a redundant drug, and I’d give a person like Gregory House a promotion and raise over a person like Vogler.
@@twilightprince4833 then why don't a lot of doctors do it together? They could not all be fired. The hospital would have a hard time explaining why they have no doctors.
@@weignerg because they are not a monolith, they are individuals. in other words, you will need to convince all of them to potentially waste their career, training and experience to take a shot at the big pharma. that, and they are too preoccupied with saving lives.
My mom was a receptionist for a cardiologist for 20 years. I got her hooked on this show and the longer Volger was on the more pissed she would get. She told me guys like this get into hospitals all the time and they get thrown out lol
@@gratedradish6699 and my point, though lacking in the meat to specifically say this initially, was that it didn't matter if guys like him get booted out of hospitals for getting stupid and going for the hospital. Guys like that who aren't stupid? They're essentially influencing the hospitals anyway by providing them their life saving drugs at their.. *profitable* rates.
karthik rox I don’t know much about those types of businesses - but the patenting- and pricing policies in the pharmaceutical area are EXACTLY as described by House. Disgusting.
It’s so funny how every other day everyone has a moral compass and house is such an “awful” person, but when it came to money almost everyone besides Wilson was about to bend for Ed because of his money.
Yeah, even Ms "You don't know right or wrong anymore" looks like "Oh no you just ruin the money". His moral compass only shows in one direction "Let's save the patient no matter what and no matter how painful it will be for that patient."
@@danieldickson8591 , if I was a boss working for somebody like Gregory House and Vogler, and I had to choose between firing one worker and keeping the other worker along with giving the worker that I didn’t fire a raise I’d keep House give a raise and a promotion, and I’d Fire Vogler unless Vogler gave me and my family 1 trillion dollars because if he’s not going to meet my demands I’d never fire a person like Gregory House in my entire life, and a person like Vogler would have to pay 1 trillion dollars upfront in cash, so that way whenever I can distribute the money between me and my families wealth in different banks then and only then I’d keep a worker like Vogler otherwise fuck people like Vogler entirely.
@@danieldickson8591 this is accurate. i think house is the inevitable numbness of prolonged depression. he's an awful person, but he knows he's an awful person, so he tries to make up for it by being a decent human being. that's where the real frustration lies, when you think you are an uncaring hypocritical piece of shit and try your best not to be but then look around and see people like some of the doctors in this audience, cuddy for one, who normally tell you how shit you are and ask "Why can't you just be normal?", all agreeing that what house just described is absolutely not okay, but totally normal, and just saying "Let's not talk about it". when you think you're trash in the gutter and you get shown that most of the people around you are lower than that by CHOICE, you develop house's attitude to people in general, and his disdain for manipulative opportunistic people like vogler is only intensified. Like, "I have enough problems keeping the depressing reality of the human condition at bay normally at this job, i don't need your ass stirring shit by going out of your way to personally make all these morons into even worse human beings."
Reminds that speech from Scarface... People like to judge and point fingers to others that seem unpleasant or have a harsh way of talking... But the SOUL of a person doesnt speak... It just acts. Words can be said but what matters is what a person does in the end. People can have the appearance of being good but that doesnt mean a damn thing.. They can be just as evil/bad. I've met enough of those people to say - I'll never wear a suit in my life
It will be unrealistic if they clap DUDE... COZ most of the people know about the meds side effect and still approve of it because of the money will benefit of it 😂😬so thats why they are speechless 😉 call it a good drama not unrealistic
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I love how House was like *I really want to not shittalk this thing so I'll just be quick* Then Mr. Owner man was like "Make me look better," and house did exactly what he wanted to
Exactly lol. There have been so many times where House would bend the knee, but people would try to push his buttons one more time. You never do that because House will absolutely turn the situation into a trainwreck.
Are you guys serious ? The initial seasons were punctuated by subtly hinting at each character's internal issues. The latter one's devolved to externalizing, blatantly spelling everything out and making House perform all manner of childish acts to keep the audience entertained, masquerading it as "psychological issues".
While that is definitely true, it is also true that big pharma can still sleep well after this episode. The American public overall seems too disinterested, docile and indifferent to change anything about the blatant corporate abuse in their country. Attacking this abuse and exploitation, that kills tens of thousands of Americans every year would equate to that sacrosanct „capitalism“ getting put into question, after all, right?
@@0xCaera You idiot, can you not read? I said LEGAL. Politicians like Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Harry Reid, Paul Ryan, John Boehner, Eric Cantor, etc. were all infamous for literally buying stocks with privileged information they got from their congressional committees. Democrats and Republicans all do it. And theres nothing that can be prosecuted for because they passed an exemption for themselves. Yes insider trading is done by plenty of other people, but at least they all have to go through the motions of pretending theyre not or else they go to prison like Martha Stewart. Thats my fucking point.
I see this effect so often in American entertainment: When someone speaks out a truth that should shock everyone, and better prompt serious efforts at righting a terrible wrong, the audience mostly just laughs, as if they just heard a cheap joke, one may forget within seconds. Only few have the attitude you have - because they see what is a joking matter, and what is serious. That’s why placing a truth-bomb like this in even a major television series is virtually guaranteed not to bring about any consequences. The masses just laugh at what’s supposedly funny, only to „fall asleep“ again moments later.
yeah thats what happened to the insulin formulations. pointless adjustments that don't make a difference to re-patent and discontinue the old one forcing people to buy your new expensive drug
Oxazepam65 I have a question why do pharmacists try to stop females from getting BIRTH CONTROL & the MORNING AFTER PILL but don't force men to buy & use CONDOMS that would prevent unwanted pregnancies ?
@@andrewblanchard2398 no, what would actually prevent unwanted pregnancy, is the woman refuse to have sex without the birth control whether it be prescribed or condoms or whatever. Too many times a woman says " oh its ok, im on birth control" and the man just goes along with it. When in fact, she wasn't. Yes, men should take responsibility, but at the same time, in the end, it's the woman who let's him in.
Tritter displayed way too much power then he would have actually had on his position, much less regarding the situation. To completely freeze assets of literally everybody around House (at least these of Cuddy and Wilson) and literally disrupting the functioning of hospital without having a proof of what House was suspected and without any actual suspicions against people around House? He would have been so busted and thrown to jail himself if he would have done sth like that in real life. He shouldn't even have clearance for issuing such measures in the first place!
Jussi Raitoniemi but he got his way much easier. Cuddy had just to convince the board Vogler Money's wasn't worth what were they gonna sacrifice. Tritter made his life hell. House definitely coped it better with Vogler, i think House didn't know Tritter would be that bad.
its a pretty good episode where he treats a black guy running for president. Near the end of the episode, House asks why he's running even though the candidate knows he is going to lose, in which he replies that "Oh I see your point being the only way to make a difference is to win every fight." This quote is what convinces house to not bend to Vogler's will
@@Enkaptaton No, my friend, you just missed the class on "How to ignore the troll so selfishly determined to proselytize that she destroys an interesting thread for everyone else."
@@akaiyoru2681 I raise you a Stephen Colbert at the 2006 White House Correspondents diner. (President Bush jr. while in office and Colbert 'in character')
@@mrpumavol7.044 House is based on a multitude of real life events in medical history. The cases, vogler, etc. The characters also have thier basis in psychology, house being an addict and the others having their own psychological sterotypes. Its a very original take from unoriginal writing. Otherwise known as modern fiction. Im not critiquing, we just live in an age where true originality is gone because the imagination has been so stretched where even the concept of creatures that are unexplainable and monsters you cannot see have been described and foretold. modern writing is now more about the structure of your story than the story itself.
@@mrpumavol7.044 The behavior of slightly altering a drug and then pushing it as better and therefore necessary for the sake of skinning patients of their money is real-life practice.
As a pharmacist, it astounds me how the pharmaceutical company consistently does this and fools prescribers into prescribing it. Maybe they do change it a tiny bit and make it have a little less side effects, but it isn't what you want to try at first if its still only available under brand.
@@narcissisticnihilist9718 I don’t understand what your comment is saying lol Pharmacists don’t prescribe drugs unless they are Pharmacist Clinicians, Pharmacists dispense the drugs but the big prescription writers are Doctors.
What he is describing is exactly how the opioid crisis began, doctors used to sell heroin and when that got banned they slightly changed the formula to the more expensive oxycontin, and then everyone got addicted to it and when they couldn't afford it they switched to the cheaper street heroin.
And now we have a fentanyl epidemic because Big Pharma continues to not give a shit beyond profit. People can't even handle the powder bare-handed without an overdose risk.
Those happened to my cousin. He got hooked on pain meds after an injury. He was cut off when he was found to be abusing and could only get street drugs, which destroyed his brain. He ended up stabbing an innocent woman about 50 times, killing her.
And those of us who need a low does of pain meds suffer from the artificial addicts and we pay the price when we don't get the treatments we need. Those of us who don't go off the rails, or by street drugs, the ones who DON'T abuse our medication. The ones who sit home in misery. Saved by the grand opioid crusade! Saved from functionality and livable lives. We get to sit home and suffer, while the criminals get just as high as they always have, and the politicians pat themselves on the back for a job well done, while THEIR scrips get filled. The POOR elderly and disabled on the other hand sit and suffer. After all, poor people are the same as drug addicts, right? Rich pain patients are in need, poor ones are just "addicts". Its just another way they US F's the poor.
It's not that the audience (and anyone with a passing interest in medicine) doesn't *already understand* this. It's that they are suspending their disbelief, suspending their cynicism about it, grasping at whatever clinical trials have been brewed up, until the 20 years of paychecks clear.
Even if „everybody in the room“ knows something, it still makes a HUGE different if somebody actually has the guts to openly and publicly address the elephant in the room (Vogler even visually reminds of an elephant - but I digress lol). That’s because it has a unmasking effect. Many terrible things in the world only function because there is an unspoken consensus not to rock the boat…and House just broke this one crucial rule. It can be compared to the dynamics in the fairytale „The Emperor‘s New Clothes“. Everyone is upholding the illusion that the Emperor is wearing the most splendid clothes - until a child finally exclaims that the Emperor is NAKED. And thus, the child destroys the public illusion, the consensus not to ever challenge the big lie.
The true tragedy is that nothing will ever be done to curtail this sort of thing. When people start to push back, Pfizer just buys more media voices to sing their praise to the herd. Well, they did. Now there aren't many media voices who aren't "sponsored" by Pfizer, it seems. What a shame that is
Chase chugging the what I presume is wine as his direct superior disses one of the most important assets to the place he works at and also the guy who he brownnoses to is a whole new level of hilarious and also a fucking mood.
It is a little detail that communicates so much: For once, Chase is „self-medicating“ there (in order to suppress any rising self-realization) - and Chase, being a kind of cold-pragmatic person, simply acknowledging to the fact that this party is now over. So he takes whatever there is to take, knowing he will be leaving in just a moment.
I can't agree more. Your last sentence especially is exactly what I felt from the scene when I first saw it. It's the expression he wears and the way he drinks it that kills me every time. It's such a tiny detail but I can't imagine the scene without it.
@@steampunkastronaut7081 No. most of them wouldn’t applaud because they are living the lives of your average, falsefaced, opportunistic „insider“. People, who are mostly driven by selfish, shortsighted impulses. They‘d suck up to a Vogler in order to stay in his good graces - no matter the long-term consequences for OTHERS.
He maybe a social pariah but he can principled at times. You just gotta love Cuddy, Wilson and the team's reactions when the beans were finally spilled. 😂😂😂😂😂
They were like "There goes our money", to which Dr. House is like"I don't care"! Integrity and saving lives are really the only two things that Dr. House cares about! He DEFINITELY puts a lot of modern-day "Doctors" to shame!
Big business in America IS its own political party. That's why USA has become a failed state here in 2022... democracy is gone, healthcare in collapse. education in ruins, housing is non existant and the United brand in the countries name must be retired. Sad that the people voted for greedy big business to rule them instead of a quality government. 😒
@@Jan_YTview , your comment is the most truthful comment whenever it comes to the United States government and the country of the United States entirely.
Orppranator it’s not a matter of big or small government, and i’d say it’s even only partially about centralised versus decentralised. Above all, it’s about government for and by the people, or government for and by corporations and the wealthy.
My immunology professor pointed out to the class how people like himself are hired to do this kind of work - altering existing drugs at potential risk to patient so patants can be renewed - for orders of magnitude more money than it would take to provide clean water globally and defeat the major killers like dyptheria and cholera etc.
Rule one in pharmaceutical industry: never treat the cause, treat the symptom. "Can you tolerate the problem using this medication all the time?" If the patient can live a long life while taking your drug for the entirety of their lives you make way more money than curing/fixing them. Might be why no 'cures' have been found in a very long time, while countless 'take every day forever' medications have been developed.
@SparrowEgg Corpotatism is a whole other thing to do with modelling society as a body of different parts. But if I understand you right you're trying to say that there is a difference between capitalism per se (democracy in markets to put it possibly too simply), which is a good idea, and this kind of thing, which could be better modelled as an abuse of capitalism. Although it's so common that it's hard to see the good core of capitalism anymore, I am inclined to agree. Not sure what to call it, maybe venture capitalism or just, like Jesus called it, the love of money. Money becomes the end and not the means to these people.
After talking about the corruption of patent industry and business online with my friends I had someone tell me that all Pharmaceutical industries and patent industries had no corruption when it comes to drugs , vaccines and patient treatments , that anybody who would suggest that they were corrupt in any way had the equivalent intelligence of flat earthers . I sent him this clip.
Vaccines are not a money maker, the state has to PAY for them becose the drug companies don't make enough bank for them to be worthwhile otherwise. Most of the obvious important ones aren't even patent-able. Hence their disinterest.
You could’ve just let him leave. He didn’t insult you, didn’t call you out on dirty business practices, he was LEAVING. Ask his colleagues, that is something they PRAY happens some days. And you chose to threaten him to go and keep talking. Oh lord, what fools these mortals be!
Elestro Air-soft And really expensive, if you are not covered by government. Moreover, if you are ready to pay the amount, still you don't get the treatment you deserve....
in Germany too. They did the exact same thing for a drug(3000 euro) and the "new" drug sells for 33000 euro. Ofc, the old stuff is not available anymore
Ummm just so everyone knows that's how they quite literally change drugs and drug names to maintain a patent on the drug. Changing the structure on one side of the molecule that doesn't change it's characteristics but it has a better name. Example Omeprazole and esomeprazole
I always thought that it was a scam. I've been on immunosuppressants for these last few years, and since then my experience has corroborated my belief.
Amateur drug labs use this same trick to circumvent the law. By slightly altering the chemical formula of an addictive opioid it suddenly becomes legal again
I didn't get the importance of this scene at the time. Now as a brazilian seeing this makes me proud to have 2 Health Ministers that got fired for refusing to recommend a drug that had no scientific evidence.
@sealbeegle9785 He is proud that the health ministers had the balls to say no. Something that public doesn't go unnoticed, and paints a nasty little history for their superiors. Maybe a little bit of martyrdom, but it adds to the picture of the clown-in-chief.
randomguy8196 1 to 7, thats at least 7 generations....compare how dumb u are now and how much dumber u were 10 years ago, its hard to believe that someone could be dumb as u are now, but then theres you 10 years ago....
2:21 Props to that extra in the background, just above and to the left of Chase's head. She actually went for the confused "I don't get it. Are we supposed to clap?". Nice little nugget of acting.
House was confronted by patients complaining about big pharma and bottom lines and came out in favour of vaccines. Reasonable at all times in terms of the medicine.
I guess we'd have one week without lies, deception, exploitation. Just full on honesty, everywhere. Nobody would have to look through somebody's bullshit before making a decision. One week until the first asshole thinks "Hmm... nobody would know if I lied about the quality of my product..." and a few years later we're back to where we are now.
@@draxxthemsclounts2478 to be fair, its always in the patients favour and their health. I think he meant lie in the sense of promoting untre things for ones own benefit, instead of the patients.
The one thing to remember about Gregory House, is that he is such a social pariah... BECAUSE he is so cruelly and brutally honest. If you are expecting House to lie without it being obvious sarcasm, you do not know House at all, and if you are expecting to be able to MAKE him lie, by any means, then you had better check to see if there any pigs flying over a frozen hell.
just realised house basically said what would have come out if he asked chatgpt for the shortest possible answer with the most amount of newspaper buzzwords
This doctor was so difficult to like (rude or sarcastic to everyone, brutally direct), but he did demonstrate integrity when those around him were far more 'flexible' in the matter. Too bad his character took a bad turn in later seasons.
Vogler: House has a reputation for integrity. House: Lives up to that reputation. Vogler: Apologize, ruining my reputation, by telling the truth and doing what you agreed to do.
"Doctor Greg House has a reputation for integrity" and he's gonna live up to it.
Your comment is completely truthful whenever it comes Dr. Gregory House’s character entirely.
Tegrity farms
@Michael Little Snowden is an establishment-sponsored stooge. There's real life for you.
@@onepalproductions LOL
@@onepalproductions I see you peacock.:)
And yet in the end, House was the first one to not allow himself to be in anyone's pocket. He pointed out this guy didnt give a damn about his patients, and he did it in public.
And in style
Yea, even threw in a joke.
@@alfa-psi , if I worked with a person like House, and I was their boss I’d give him a raise and promotion because nobody at all should give up their integrity for profits at all.
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr If you were his boss you would try to get him to endorse a redundant drug
@@jameswashere187 , I wouldn’t force a person like Gregory House to shill for a redundant drug, and I’d give a person like Gregory House a promotion and raise over a person like Vogler.
It is hard to imagine a universe in which blackmailing House is not a terrible, terrible idea :D
Yeah, if you make House choose between the lesser of two evils, you won't like the third option he picks instead :P
I'm still trying to imagine a universe with no hypothetical situations.
@OkamsRazer you find a lot of stupid sociopaths, many more than clever ones, but they don't make movies about the dumb ones.
@@blucz883 ČAAAUUU :dDDD
@@mikfhan yep, the nuclear option almost always too
House said what every doctor in the room already knew. Their silence on the subject was telling.
Agree. Just stunned silence that the raw truth was laid bare with no way to excuse it.
In the real life, doctors would've been kicked out of their hospitals for standing up to big pharma
@@twilightprince4833 then why don't a lot of doctors do it together? They could not all be fired. The hospital would have a hard time explaining why they have no doctors.
@@weignerg because they are not a monolith, they are individuals. in other words, you will need to convince all of them to potentially waste their career, training and experience to take a shot at the big pharma. that, and they are too preoccupied with saving lives.
@@hang_kentang6709 why not have a workers union that doctors join over time that this could be initiated by?
My mom was a receptionist for a cardiologist for 20 years. I got her hooked on this show and the longer Volger was on the more pissed she would get. She told me guys like this get into hospitals all the time and they get thrown out lol
fr? danm lol
What are you talking about? Are you referring to medical salesman or whatever they are the guys that legally peddle drugs?
If only they got thrown out, but it's a little hard to throw out the entirety of the pharmaceuticals industry as a hospital.
@@drflannelxd904 Imagine they meant people who 'donate' large sums and then want to influence the hospital.
@@gratedradish6699 and my point, though lacking in the meat to specifically say this initially, was that it didn't matter if guys like him get booted out of hospitals for getting stupid and going for the hospital. Guys like that who aren't stupid? They're essentially influencing the hospitals anyway by providing them their life saving drugs at their.. *profitable* rates.
To anybody who knows the pharmaceutical business, what House is talking about here is true for A LOT that is ACTUALLY HAPPENING in pharma companies.
in real life, he'd be dead by now.
@@roamer45 Yep. Cause of death: "suicide".
They put money on "research" to "improve" the product..
Not just pharmaceuticals, most businesses do this, automobile, manufacturing, electronics etc etc etc.
karthik rox I don’t know much about those types of businesses - but the patenting- and pricing policies in the pharmaceutical area are EXACTLY as described by House. Disgusting.
It’s so funny how every other day everyone has a moral compass and house is such an “awful” person, but when it came to money almost everyone besides Wilson was about to bend for Ed because of his money.
Yeah, even Ms "You don't know right or wrong anymore" looks like "Oh no you just ruin the money". His moral compass only shows in one direction "Let's save the patient no matter what and no matter how painful it will be for that patient."
House is an awful person. Doesn't mean he lacks admirable qualities. On balance, though, they wouldn't be enough for me to put up with him.
@@danieldickson8591 , if I was a boss working for somebody like Gregory House and Vogler, and I had to choose between firing one worker and keeping the other worker along with giving the worker that I didn’t fire a raise I’d keep House give a raise and a promotion, and I’d Fire Vogler unless Vogler gave me and my family 1 trillion dollars because if he’s not going to meet my demands I’d never fire a person like Gregory House in my entire life, and a person like Vogler would have to pay 1 trillion dollars upfront in cash, so that way whenever I can distribute the money between me and my families wealth in different banks then and only then I’d keep a worker like Vogler otherwise fuck people like Vogler entirely.
@@danieldickson8591 this is accurate. i think house is the inevitable numbness of prolonged depression. he's an awful person, but he knows he's an awful person, so he tries to make up for it by being a decent human being. that's where the real frustration lies, when you think you are an uncaring hypocritical piece of shit and try your best not to be but then look around and see people like some of the doctors in this audience, cuddy for one, who normally tell you how shit you are and ask "Why can't you just be normal?", all agreeing that what house just described is absolutely not okay, but totally normal, and just saying "Let's not talk about it". when you think you're trash in the gutter and you get shown that most of the people around you are lower than that by CHOICE, you develop house's attitude to people in general, and his disdain for manipulative opportunistic people like vogler is only intensified.
Like, "I have enough problems keeping the depressing reality of the human condition at bay normally at this job, i don't need your ass stirring shit by going out of your way to personally make all these morons into even worse human beings."
Reminds that speech from Scarface... People like to judge and point fingers to others that seem unpleasant or have a harsh way of talking... But the SOUL of a person doesnt speak... It just acts. Words can be said but what matters is what a person does in the end. People can have the appearance of being good but that doesnt mean a damn thing.. They can be just as evil/bad. I've met enough of those people to say - I'll never wear a suit in my life
"i threw in a joke"
damn, am i going to have to watch this entire show again? the feels
Me about to go to season 4 but ended up rewatching season 2 again
There are multiple justifications to rewatching House. The writers are mind blowing, Hugh Laurie is a comedic genius (and great pianist).
2:10 is my favorite in this scene.
Everyone is looking sad, while Chase just chugs down the wine lol.
i found it unrealistic the fact that nobody was laughing in the room.
They came in with their etiquette face strapped on, might as well leave it on while the crazy cripple tears the businessman a new one.
It will be unrealistic if they clap DUDE... COZ most of the people know about the meds side effect and still approve of it because of the money will benefit of it 😂😬so thats why they are speechless 😉 call it a good drama not unrealistic
the thinker it’d be unprofessional
Not much corporate experience aye buddy?
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I love how House was like *I really want to not shittalk this thing so I'll just be quick* Then Mr. Owner man was like "Make me look better," and house did exactly what he wanted to
Exactly lol. There have been so many times where House would bend the knee, but people would try to push his buttons one more time. You never do that because House will absolutely turn the situation into a trainwreck.
Him clapping his hand was a nice personal touch. I just absolutely left until I cried.
Dr. House bends for NO Man!!!
"All the HEALTHY people in the room, let's have a big round of applause for Ed Vogler."
》 House is the only one who claps
Everyone else in the audience was on the phone to their broker getting them to buy more shares in the company. =/
@@pbdye1607 wouldn't you want less shares because their value will soon be plummetting?
@@TheEpicDartfish Exactly.
actually I see a few people in the background applauded, then quickly stopped. 2:21
Shorting shares maybe.
A perfect example of how sharp the writing of the show was in earlier seasons.
Babooshka00 The writing's awesome throughout the show.A show's rarely that consistent.
Ahmet Kurum I know right, the original comment is more cynical than House himself.
Are you guys serious ? The initial seasons were punctuated by subtly hinting at each character's internal issues. The latter one's devolved to externalizing, blatantly spelling everything out and making House perform all manner of childish acts to keep the audience entertained, masquerading it as "psychological issues".
when do you think it deteriorated?
micobugija started with season 4. First 3 were really great in writing
Gotta love how Vogler hates people calling him "Ed", always corrects them that it's "Edward", yet doesn't call House "Gregory" but "Greg".
Nice touch.
just like trump lol
Vilkku fuck u son of a bitch
You sound rather butthurt, mate?
Jojos25 ?
nightwolf that escalated fast.
Actual kudos to the producers and writers, they had the balls to say that on a mainstream tv show.
Its 2021, and we cant even talk about why its legal only for politicians to do insider trading. Taking on big pharma is still decades away in the US.
While that is definitely true, it is also true that big pharma can still sleep well after this episode. The American public overall seems too disinterested, docile and indifferent to change anything about the blatant corporate abuse in their country. Attacking this abuse and exploitation, that kills tens of thousands of Americans every year would equate to that sacrosanct „capitalism“ getting put into question, after all, right?
@@0xCaera You idiot, can you not read? I said LEGAL. Politicians like Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Harry Reid, Paul Ryan, John Boehner, Eric Cantor, etc. were all infamous for literally buying stocks with privileged information they got from their congressional committees. Democrats and Republicans all do it. And theres nothing that can be prosecuted for because they passed an exemption for themselves.
Yes insider trading is done by plenty of other people, but at least they all have to go through the motions of pretending theyre not or else they go to prison like Martha Stewart. Thats my fucking point.
What?
That's just it, they put it into shows and movies so that people think it's fairy tales, not real.
I am a pharmacist and I have a hard time laughing because this is not even an exaggeration.
I see this effect so often in American entertainment: When someone speaks out a truth that should shock everyone, and better prompt serious efforts at righting a terrible wrong, the audience mostly just laughs, as if they just heard a cheap joke, one may forget within seconds. Only few have the attitude you have - because they see what is a joking matter, and what is serious.
That’s why placing a truth-bomb like this in even a major television series is virtually guaranteed not to bring about any consequences. The masses just laugh at what’s supposedly funny, only to „fall asleep“ again moments later.
yeah thats what happened to the insulin formulations. pointless adjustments that don't make a difference to re-patent and discontinue the old one forcing people to buy your new expensive drug
Oxazepam65
I have a question
why do pharmacists try to
stop females from getting
BIRTH CONTROL & the
MORNING AFTER PILL
but don't force men to
buy & use CONDOMS
that would prevent unwanted
pregnancies ?
@@taxiuniversum You know how it is, it's funny because it's true
@@andrewblanchard2398 no, what would actually prevent unwanted pregnancy, is the woman refuse to have sex without the birth control whether it be prescribed or condoms or whatever. Too many times a woman says " oh its ok, im on birth control" and the man just goes along with it. When in fact, she wasn't. Yes, men should take responsibility, but at the same time, in the end, it's the woman who let's him in.
Don't mess with House.
And then again... House coped REALLY badly with Tritter.
+and House didnt beat Vogler either
Tritter displayed way too much power then he would have actually had on his position, much less regarding the situation. To completely freeze assets of literally everybody around House (at least these of Cuddy and Wilson) and literally disrupting the functioning of hospital without having a proof of what House was suspected and without any actual suspicions against people around House? He would have been so busted and thrown to jail himself if he would have done sth like that in real life. He shouldn't even have clearance for issuing such measures in the first place!
Jussi Raitoniemi but he got his way much easier. Cuddy had just to convince the board Vogler Money's wasn't worth what were they gonna sacrifice.
Tritter made his life hell.
House definitely coped it better with Vogler, i think House didn't know Tritter would be that bad.
Only if House hired Harvey!
"I threw in a joke"
Just like in the first Ghost Rider movie, before the helicopter jump. "I took the cars out"
its a pretty good episode where he treats a black guy running for president. Near the end of the episode, House asks why he's running even though the candidate knows he is going to lose, in which he replies that "Oh I see your point being the only way to make a difference is to win every fight."
This quote is what convinces house to not bend to Vogler's will
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@@amany247 Did I miss the point where this conversation moved on to religion?
@@Enkaptaton No, my friend, you just missed the class on "How to ignore the troll so selfishly determined to proselytize that she destroys an interesting thread for everyone else."
@@amany247 Yeah I like Allah
Allah deez nuts dragging across your jawline
aha got em
The first time: House was giving Vogler a win, but greedy Vogler wanted more. Just goes to show that greed does not pay in the long run.
"I threw in a joke" 😂
I laughed.
One simply doesn't pick a fight with House and expect to walk away intact.
Ocasionally I come back here to watch this scene. It's too good. "I threw in a joke".
The joke was Vogler himself XD
This was the first episode i watched on channel 5 back in the day. Hooked instantly.
The joke being that he had suggested to applaud Vogler lol. Double-burn. 🔥
It's brilliant writing because it is a realistic scenario.
Love Chase just downing that drink.
He knows this party is over. LOL
Hahahaha the only solution when you know your possibly gunna be fired. I would join him!
Ricky Gervais gives the most roasting speech in the history of mankind.
House: Hold my Vicodin.
A fictional character roasted a cold bussinessman and the medical indistry both in the very same time.
Gotta appreciate that one
@@akaiyoru2681 I raise you a Stephen Colbert at the 2006 White House Correspondents diner. (President Bush jr. while in office and Colbert 'in character')
House would never let anyone hold his Vicodin.
@@mikaelj2368 he'd let Wilson hold it, heck in one episode he had Chase open the Vicoden (which then spilled over the whole table).
House: Hold my cane
I like how Chase chugs that wine XD
He is preparing for the incoming storm 😮💨🍷
who the hell wrote this? this is genius.
Genuis lol its based on real life events.
@@Kalki1122 which ones?
@@mrpumavol7.044 House is based on a multitude of real life events in medical history. The cases, vogler, etc. The characters also have thier basis in psychology, house being an addict and the others having their own psychological sterotypes. Its a very original take from unoriginal writing. Otherwise known as modern fiction. Im not critiquing, we just live in an age where true originality is gone because the imagination has been so stretched where even the concept of creatures that are unexplainable and monsters you cannot see have been described and foretold. modern writing is now more about the structure of your story than the story itself.
@@mrpumavol7.044 The behavior of slightly altering a drug and then pushing it as better and therefore necessary for the sake of skinning patients of their money is real-life practice.
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As a pharmacist, it astounds me how the pharmaceutical company consistently does this and fools prescribers into prescribing it. Maybe they do change it a tiny bit and make it have a little less side effects, but it isn't what you want to try at first if its still only available under brand.
This is why I don't trust doctors. My grandfather called them "the medical mafia" for a reason.
They don't fool anyone - everyone gets a slice of the pie of they play along. Ultimately screwing the patients in the long run.
Doctors get pay offs and free vacations and hang posters in their office.
@@narcissisticnihilist9718 I don’t understand what your comment is saying lol
Pharmacists don’t prescribe drugs unless they are Pharmacist Clinicians, Pharmacists dispense the drugs but the big prescription writers are Doctors.
@@Janon743did anyone ask u
What he is describing is exactly how the opioid crisis began, doctors used to sell heroin and when that got banned they slightly changed the formula to the more expensive oxycontin, and then everyone got addicted to it and when they couldn't afford it they switched to the cheaper street heroin.
And now we have a fentanyl epidemic because Big Pharma continues to not give a shit beyond profit. People can't even handle the powder bare-handed without an overdose risk.
Those happened to my cousin. He got hooked on pain meds after an injury. He was cut off when he was found to be abusing and could only get street drugs, which destroyed his brain. He ended up stabbing an innocent woman about 50 times, killing her.
@@snewsh Julius Caesar's gonna eat his heart out knowing his record was broken by an old lady encountering an addict. Condolences.
@@NutSaxs2000 years in the making.
And those of us who need a low does of pain meds suffer from the artificial addicts and we pay the price when we don't get the treatments we need. Those of us who don't go off the rails, or by street drugs, the ones who DON'T abuse our medication. The ones who sit home in misery. Saved by the grand opioid crusade! Saved from functionality and livable lives. We get to sit home and suffer, while the criminals get just as high as they always have, and the politicians pat themselves on the back for a job well done, while THEIR scrips get filled. The POOR elderly and disabled on the other hand sit and suffer. After all, poor people are the same as drug addicts, right? Rich pain patients are in need, poor ones are just "addicts". Its just another way they US F's the poor.
It's not that the audience (and anyone with a passing interest in medicine) doesn't *already understand* this. It's that they are suspending their disbelief, suspending their cynicism about it, grasping at whatever clinical trials have been brewed up, until the 20 years of paychecks clear.
Even if „everybody in the room“ knows something, it still makes a HUGE different if somebody actually has the guts to openly and publicly address the elephant in the room (Vogler even visually reminds of an elephant - but I digress lol). That’s because it has a unmasking effect. Many terrible things in the world only function because there is an unspoken consensus not to rock the boat…and House just broke this one crucial rule. It can be compared to the dynamics in the fairytale „The Emperor‘s New Clothes“. Everyone is upholding the illusion that the Emperor is wearing the most splendid clothes - until a child finally exclaims that the Emperor is NAKED. And thus, the child destroys the public illusion, the consensus not to ever challenge the big lie.
The true tragedy is that nothing will ever be done to curtail this sort of thing. When people start to push back, Pfizer just buys more media voices to sing their praise to the herd. Well, they did. Now there aren't many media voices who aren't "sponsored" by Pfizer, it seems. What a shame that is
I'm a doctor and I agree with everything he said .
Clark Kent - you look an awefully lot like Green Lanern.
@@AzguardMike clark kent is superman not green lantern
@@steampunkastronaut7081 r/whoosh
Chase chugging the what I presume is wine as his direct superior disses one of the most important assets to the place he works at and also the guy who he brownnoses to is a whole new level of hilarious and also a fucking mood.
It is a little detail that communicates so much: For once, Chase is „self-medicating“ there (in order to suppress any rising self-realization) - and Chase, being a kind of cold-pragmatic person, simply acknowledging to the fact that this party is now over. So he takes whatever there is to take, knowing he will be leaving in just a moment.
I can't agree more. Your last sentence especially is exactly what I felt from the scene when I first saw it. It's the expression he wears and the way he drinks it that kills me every time. It's such a tiny detail but I can't imagine the scene without it.
When someone says they don't want to give a speech for you, it's probably best not to make them.
I like the fact that the presentation in the background is still ongoing XD
Condemned by the masses for telling the ugly truth. Just like real life.
As the saying goes "no good deed goes unpunished..."
Only Vogler would condemn him. The others didn't applaud with him because it was too awkward of a situation.
@@steampunkastronaut7081 , I’d applaud with a guy like Gregory House if a person gave a public speech like that in real life.
@@steampunkastronaut7081 No. most of them wouldn’t applaud because they are living the lives of your average, falsefaced, opportunistic „insider“. People, who are mostly driven by selfish, shortsighted impulses. They‘d suck up to a Vogler in order to stay in his good graces - no matter the long-term consequences for OTHERS.
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr Good for you.
But I bet you have already realized that you are the exception to the rule in that.
He maybe a social pariah but he can principled at times. You just gotta love Cuddy, Wilson and the team's reactions when the beans were finally spilled. 😂😂😂😂😂
They were like "There goes our money", to which Dr. House is like"I don't care"!
Integrity and saving lives are really the only two things that Dr. House cares about! He DEFINITELY puts a lot of modern-day "Doctors" to shame!
always a genius
everyone looks disappointed...they should be fucking proud and clapping
Marco 2:21
Girl in the background clapping XD
And to the left. A guy slightly clapping.
1:52 what's so funny is that the slides in the background keep going 😂 😂 😂 😂
Evidently spelling insufficiency wrong; speaks to voglers new drug
Cant imagine how awkward it was 😂😂😂
House is the champion
if this was real, Vogler would call him a racist and everything House said would be forgotten and House would be fired.
I like how this show made political points without being biased towards a poltical party.
Big business in America IS its own political party. That's why USA has become a failed state here in 2022... democracy is gone, healthcare in collapse. education in ruins, housing is non existant and the United brand in the countries name must be retired. Sad that the people voted for greedy big business to rule them instead of a quality government. 😒
House is Based and Commie Pilled
@@Jan_YTview , your comment is the most truthful comment whenever it comes to the United States government and the country of the United States entirely.
@@Jan_YTview Great, you hate greedy corporations, all you need now is a healthy dose of hatred of big government as well.
Orppranator it’s not a matter of big or small government, and i’d say it’s even only partially about centralised versus decentralised. Above all, it’s about government for and by the people, or government for and by corporations and the wealthy.
2:15 I would have applauded, cause it's awkward if no one does...
As they say: "House always wins"
My immunology professor pointed out to the class how people like himself are hired to do this kind of work - altering existing drugs at potential risk to patient so patants can be renewed - for orders of magnitude more money than it would take to provide clean water globally and defeat the major killers like dyptheria and cholera etc.
Rule one in pharmaceutical industry: never treat the cause, treat the symptom. "Can you tolerate the problem using this medication all the time?"
If the patient can live a long life while taking your drug for the entirety of their lives you make way more money than curing/fixing them. Might be why no 'cures' have been found in a very long time, while countless 'take every day forever' medications have been developed.
@@stevedixon921 Unfortunately. Good old capitalism eh.
@@colmwhateveryoulike3240 Yep, anything for a dollar...ANYTHING.
@SparrowEgg Corpotatism is a whole other thing to do with modelling society as a body of different parts. But if I understand you right you're trying to say that there is a difference between capitalism per se (democracy in markets to put it possibly too simply), which is a good idea, and this kind of thing, which could be better modelled as an abuse of capitalism.
Although it's so common that it's hard to see the good core of capitalism anymore, I am inclined to agree. Not sure what to call it, maybe venture capitalism or just, like Jesus called it, the love of money. Money becomes the end and not the means to these people.
Fascinating. Thank you for sharing. It's good that your professor is so open about such a controversial subject.
Hahahaha the downing of the wine glass by chase my fav! The look on his face of just ....(greaaaat) hahaha🤣
2:12 he is like "hell, its gonna be interesting"
"I threw in a joke",Indeed house indeed😂😂😂
After talking about the corruption of patent industry and business online with my friends I had someone tell me that all Pharmaceutical industries and patent industries had no corruption when it comes to drugs , vaccines and patient treatments , that anybody who would suggest that they were corrupt in any way had the equivalent intelligence of flat earthers . I sent him this clip.
Wherever there is money to be made, corruption will exist.
Your friend is incredibly naive or in denial.
i don't wanna be rude but your friend doesn't deserve the title of Homosapien because there is no way he has a brain
Vaccines are not a money maker, the state has to PAY for them becose the drug companies don't make enough bank for them to be worthwhile otherwise. Most of the obvious important ones aren't even patent-able. Hence their disinterest.
“I own the company. I’m certainly not to be trusted right?” (Smug grin)
House knocked that smugness right out of his face, ha ha. 😆
@@taxiuniversum Damn straight.
You could’ve just let him leave. He didn’t insult you, didn’t call you out on dirty business practices, he was LEAVING. Ask his colleagues, that is something they PRAY happens some days. And you chose to threaten him to go and keep talking. Oh lord, what fools these mortals be!
U.S. healthcare system in a nutshell.
Elestro Air-soft And really expensive, if you are not covered by government. Moreover, if you are ready to pay the amount, still you don't get the treatment you deserve....
in Germany too. They did the exact same thing for a drug(3000 euro) and the "new" drug sells for 33000 euro. Ofc, the old stuff is not available anymore
hans Haperle can you tell which drug?
Its a drug against multiple sklerose. The company is called Roche. The new drug´s name is Ocrevus
It hurts to hear because it's true.
Ummm just so everyone knows that's how they quite literally change drugs and drug names to maintain a patent on the drug. Changing the structure on one side of the molecule that doesn't change it's characteristics but it has a better name. Example Omeprazole and esomeprazole
I always thought that it was a scam. I've been on immunosuppressants for these last few years, and since then my experience has corroborated my belief.
Or citalopram and escitalopram as Celexa and Lexapro respectively.
Amateur drug labs use this same trick to circumvent the law. By slightly altering the chemical formula of an addictive opioid it suddenly becomes legal again
That's why you don't play games with someone who's smart enough to not give af about the game.
We make peace with our enemies not our friends
lol, bad move volger, tempting fate.
He shoulda just accepted the "it'll save lives" and quit while he was ahead.
i know its just fiction but theres a lesson here... never threaten someone whos got nothing to lose.
Or rather, if you're gonna threaten someone, don't push it. Because they'll think they're doomed either way.
I don't remember these episodes, but it sounds like House did have something to lose. He gave the speech anyway.
Oh, House DOES have things to lose - his JOB, for instance! He just doesn’t give a fuck.
I didn't get the importance of this scene at the time.
Now as a brazilian seeing this makes me proud to have 2 Health Ministers that got fired for refusing to recommend a drug that had no scientific evidence.
proud?
@sealbeegle9785 He is proud that the health ministers had the balls to say no. Something that public doesn't go unnoticed, and paints a nasty little history for their superiors. Maybe a little bit of martyrdom, but it adds to the picture of the clown-in-chief.
Vogler: "Foreman or Cameron."
House: "eeny, meeny, miny, *YOU* "
The “horror” on Cuddy’s face
I edited this comment to make all the replies look stupid
that actually makes sense except iphones dont cure diseases
Yeah very true haha
And doesn't take advantage of poor people.
randomguy8196 1 to 7, thats at least 7 generations....compare how dumb u are now and how much dumber u were 10 years ago, its hard to believe that someone could be dumb as u are now, but then theres you 10 years ago....
randomguy8196 snnooorrreeeee
Didnt Vogler believed House was like a wild card? His reaction is worth as hell
2:21
Props to that extra in the background, just above and to the left of Chase's head.
She actually went for the confused "I don't get it. Are we supposed to clap?".
Nice little nugget of acting.
“God obviously never liked them anyway.”
Ooh, total slam on prosperity theology!
The music in this scene killed it just imagine it without the music it would be so much more tense
2:21 i like how two people are clapping. one on the left, and one in the back middle
Tbh, this is how pharmaceutical companies operate. Not fiction but truth.
After this, the writers of House never touched on health patents ever again. It was never brought up or mentioned again in the show. Ever.
House was confronted by patients complaining about big pharma and bottom lines and came out in favour of vaccines. Reasonable at all times in terms of the medicine.
Imagine a world with doctors like House. Now, imagine a world where everyone is as honest as House.
I guess we'd have one week without lies, deception, exploitation. Just full on honesty, everywhere. Nobody would have to look through somebody's bullshit before making a decision.
One week until the first asshole thinks "Hmm... nobody would know if I lied about the quality of my product..." and a few years later we're back to where we are now.
House lies all the godamn time, his motto is "everybody lies"
@@draxxthemsclounts2478 lol, well played. Though I did say _"imagine."_
@@draxxthemsclounts2478 to be fair, its always in the patients favour and their health. I think he meant lie in the sense of promoting untre things for ones own benefit, instead of the patients.
The one thing to remember about Gregory House, is that he is such a social pariah... BECAUSE he is so cruelly and brutally honest.
If you are expecting House to lie without it being obvious sarcasm, you do not know House at all, and if you are expecting to be able to MAKE him lie, by any means, then you had better check to see if there any pigs flying over a frozen hell.
Volger pushed House to talk and House talked
Volger had this coming
"I threw in a joke"
Boss.
"I threw in a joke." absolutely was perfect.
chase drinking his drink at once, just showing how it’d become him later on.
1:05 It was at this moment when Edward knew...
He fucked up
2:14 He's being humorous but doesn't smile a bit. For some reason it made it more hilarious!
People with that kind of integrity, does not have jobs that make them speak at a big pharma company launches
I don’t think Chi McBride gets enough credit for playing such a great corporate scumbag in the first season of this awesome show.
It's called evergreening, they have tried to do it with imatinib
Did what, change Gleevec to another name?
A fine example of not leaving well enough alone.
Dude why would you threaten house and then immediately give him a chance to destroy your product? 😂
Love how Chase is like well there we go and Willson is like oh dear god.
Wilson just never fully expects the other shoe to drop with house, and every time he is caught aghast by house's sheer lack of a filter.
Wilson loves it. He loves when House shows the integrity. What he doesn’t love is the chaos that he has to help clean up.
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HOW DID NOONE SEE THIS COMING?????
I can't believe Vogler created the Vought logo from The Boys lmao
In all honesty, Viopril is a shitty name for an ACE inhibitor brand.
LePredator1 haha
LePredator1examples of ACE inhibitors- elanapril, lisinopril, fosinopril, caotopril etc....i think the name is decent enough
Yea i would have named it marchapril. See what i did there.
just realised house basically said what would have come out if he asked chatgpt for the shortest possible answer with the most amount of newspaper buzzwords
A man of integrity you sure you want him to give your speech?
It's like the algorithm is trying to tell us something that is relevant right now
It's always relevant, because even after the Sacklers get sacked, this is how drug dealers operate.
Others who noticed the clapping along with House?
Vogler : that wasnt a speech
House: hold my Vicodin…on second thought I need that…hold your dignity
House is truly my favorite TV show character… no f-is given
today, after maybe 6 or 7 years since I watched this episode, I understand what House was talking about. It´s not even an exaggeration.
This doctor was so difficult to like (rude or sarcastic to everyone, brutally direct), but he did demonstrate integrity when those around him were far more 'flexible' in the matter. Too bad his character took a bad turn in later seasons.
You're probably in the minority on this one
Its interesting how the video won't play...
if only we had more like Dr House today
There are still a few out there, you just have to look hard and get lucky.
I love that there was one person in the back who was clapping and then stopped when she noticed that nobody else was.
HOW COULD I FORGET FOREMAN HAD HAIR?! LMAO
Awesome comment!!!! Dead lololol
Dude the music takes always the drama and how heavy this scene actually is
aaand thats how Sherlock stabs back at Moriarty(or at least the season 1 attempt to create Moriarty)
Vogler: House has a reputation for integrity.
House: Lives up to that reputation.
Vogler: Apologize, ruining my reputation, by telling the truth and doing what you agreed to do.
And then the next episode he had a dream of ed having cancer. House is crazyyy 😀
House: "try blackmailing me? I'm about to end your career....and your company."