I like these driveway builds. Connie, Helga, they're a different pace from the shop built cars, and I notice you guys aren't shooting for a specific lap time for either car. They're just cool projects you guys are working on for yourselves.
making videos like thats what we thought how videos should be .. thanks man for the tests of everything you installed and how much it improved lap time ..thanks again man
Tell him to get a OMP front brace too, will help the turrets alot too. Also I ran the rear adjuster for the spring the other way round, alot easier for height adjustment later
I think those rear springs were installed upside down. Otherwise, with the way it's placed, the ride height can't be adjusted. I just installed mine today and forgot to install the factor rubber shims. Gotta throw my alignment into the backlog now! Great video, really helped with navigating the install process.
I love the E36 M3! Imo it was an over rated car 20 years ago but today it truley is an under rated car... Cant wait till we finish ours!!! Def want to see more from this car! Thanks for another awesome vid guys.
Imo US spec e36 m3 is still over rated, 328i and US m3 are too close to each other. luckily moose's m3 is euro spec but sadly after seeing coil cover and vanos unit, it is older gen euro s50b30, with 286 hp. Euro S50b32 is more desired with 321 hp
M3 Evos should have the front topmounts set back for added caster, hence your wheels are sat forward in the arches. BC do sell topmounts for this, would be worth changing to those guys. Keep up the good work
I and my brother made Bmw drift missiles first we did spring chop. When we got some cheap coils dampening non adjustable. So we installed that hard shock and putted in coilover spring with out ride colar and ride was actually the same. Also harder coilover spring and harder absorber on rear wheels reduced wheel hop and i was able to shred in 3rd
Send us an e-mail at dave@speed.academy (no .com on the end). We may start doing more track reviews of local cars and yours sounds like it could be a fun one to try! Dave's done a lot of racing in Corvettes, so it's a good fit for his background and dad-bod.
Swaybars only work in roll, springs and dampers work both in roll and in pitch and dive. Swaybars are a secondary tuning device for roll stiffness, but the springs set the baseline.
Try jacking both sides of the same axle to save fucking around with arb drop links in the future. Good work though guys!!! And your Mms are our Cms lol!!
Don't do one side at a time for coilovers. The swaybar will push up and give you a hard time. Better lift each axle at the same time Edit: oh ok, the end link attach to the coilover anyway. That's a bit strange lol
yes but only the slap ons all the dudes at my track icar told me they weld extra metal to the towers because there's too little metal and eventually the stress cracks the towers because of stiff setups.
The weight of the car is transferred to the chasis sheetmetal thru the separate spring, this the bulk of the stress/load. The separate Damper/shock adds little load to the chassis. The shock tower reinforcememt plate should be fine. A number of track focused cars do a true coil-over conversion, with the spring and shock bolting up where the shock sits. This requires substantial (Welded) reinforcement of the whole area. . The Weak spots in the rear of the car are where the Sub-frame bolts up (Already reinforced from the factory ...because M3), the trailing arm pockets and the sway-bar mounts. These will be welded in at a later date
i have had many suspension setups on my euro e36 m3 evo, bilsien b12 kit too stiff and skittish on bumps, hsd and bs coilovers both shit, finnally spent the dough and got kwv3 which are awesome and so much better than all the other cheap tat.
Porsche 911 996 non-turbo calipers with adapter mounts and E46 M-Sports rotors with Hawk Streey/Race pads.Check the part 2 video of this series,they installed it there
The "ZHP" rack is a bit of a myth pretty much all 330's came with the yellow tag rack and IIRC all the facelift 330's had them no need to pay extra for a rack from the zhp.
We knew somebody would spot that! We did in fact max it out as you've suggested before aligning it. Just didn't shoot any video of it so used that clip in the edit.
even budget coilovers are way better than stock suspension, but they are too stiff and not comfortable driving city especially road bumps and humps, but even road works just great
Anyone have the STX coilovers? I got them new and installed by a reputable place. They have been retightened at the strut mounts a few times but they are constantly making noise at low speed bumps. It’s annoying. Anyone have this problem?
Moose you are talking about centimeters. 1 centimeter is 10 millimeters. One foot is around 304,8mm or 30.48cm. One inch is 25.3 millimeters or 2.53cm. Im being anal here am i. I bet you knew what you were talking about. Just mixed up.
If moose wants to go fast, he could probably lose a few pounds. Not only would he increase his quality and longevity of life, but he would go faster. He could also get a better car.
Well compared to TC Klines, Ground Control, Fortune Autos, Ohlins, H&R, fk, bilsteins, ...... BC is junk. I've had 2 e36 M3's and an mroadster. I would never run BC's. lol
Hmm. That's interesting, I also own an estoril blue m3 with BC's and they feel absolutely amazing. Unless you've tried them you can't call them junk. Opinions are like assholes though 😊 (BC's sponsor almost all of formula drift cars but 🐸 ⛾)
Moose always moves around like he has to be somewhere in 15 mins. Moose speed is a real thing huh.
dude acts like hes just done a line of the shneef but thats what we love about him
He makes the Energizer Bunny seems like a lazy sack of fur.
I do love the M3 content, but honestly I cant wait to see Moose inside Connie again :)
Is his G/F'd ? Connie?
You'll see Moose all up inside her soon!
One of the few videos that actually shows improvements in track times! Thinking of installing BC's on my M4
I like these driveway builds. Connie, Helga, they're a different pace from the shop built cars, and I notice you guys aren't shooting for a specific lap time for either car. They're just cool projects you guys are working on for yourselves.
Always like Moose's enthusiasm, you can tell he's a guy who likes to get shit done.
T-Rex Wants to fight you should be the next Speed academy shirt, With DP's face and the wrenches.
Moose is high energy
I really like this series. Not totally overdone and you canadians seem like nice and funny guys to me as a German. Greetings
One of my fav coilover install vids idk why
making videos like thats what we thought how videos should be .. thanks man for the tests of everything you installed and how much it improved lap time ..thanks again man
Glad you guys finally have some Euro on the show.
i love when Moog is in the videos, you guys make a good humour couple lol. That Trex though! ROFL!
Gotta love an euro spec E36 M3!
Tell him to get a OMP front brace too, will help the turrets alot too. Also I ran the rear adjuster for the spring the other way round, alot easier for height adjustment later
Super smooth 6 cylinder, I love my M3
I think those rear springs were installed upside down. Otherwise, with the way it's placed, the ride height can't be adjusted. I just installed mine today and forgot to install the factor rubber shims. Gotta throw my alignment into the backlog now! Great video, really helped with navigating the install process.
Moose = legend
I love the E36 M3! Imo it was an over rated car 20 years ago but today it truley is an under rated car...
Cant wait till we finish ours!!! Def want to see more from this car! Thanks for another awesome vid guys.
Imo US spec e36 m3 is still over rated, 328i and US m3 are too close to each other. luckily moose's m3 is euro spec but sadly after seeing coil cover and vanos unit, it is older gen euro s50b30, with 286 hp. Euro S50b32 is more desired with 321 hp
tyler t who needs a Euro spec E36 M3 when you have a forged frankenstein combined with boost 😁.
True :D
Videos with Moose = pure melee
Was great to see it on the track last weekend. By 'IT' I mean Moose, and maybe the car too :-)
You two in a car together would be hilarious. Like a couple of vanilla gorillas in a Austin Mini.
Speed Academy I smell a video. His E36 or mine?
The Mullet E36 has more torque .... If we are both in the car it will need it :)
Moose, you could drive them back to back solo and compare them. Like apples and V8 oranges.
What an amazing video. Very well detailed. Good job camera guy
Thank you!
I'm a simple man. I see Speed Academy posted, I make a new account and hit subscribe
More Moose please. Just rocks up, manhandles shit and gets it done.
Congratulations 🎊🎉🍾🎈 on this change. The car still needs some work.
What did you all do next?
Been looking around for some coils for my e46 and you might of just sold me on some BC's!
Rear spring adjusters want to be at the top so they can be easily adjusted.
I thought that as well
Moose, how have the BCs held up? I’m thinking of getting a set for my E28
M3 Evos should have the front topmounts set back for added caster, hence your wheels are sat forward in the arches. BC do sell topmounts for this, would be worth changing to those guys. Keep up the good work
Put that shirt on your page and you got yourselves a customer!
I and my brother made Bmw drift missiles first we did spring chop. When we got some cheap coils dampening non adjustable. So we installed that hard shock and putted in coilover spring with out ride colar and ride was actually the same. Also harder coilover spring and harder absorber on rear wheels reduced wheel hop and i was able to shred in 3rd
4:10 nice happy face in the background lol
Great video. How have these BC coilovers held up since this video was filmed? I'm looking to buy coilovers for my E36 M3.
Would you be interested in testing 2004 c5 z06 stock power with coilovers and tons of aero on it
Send us an e-mail at dave@speed.academy (no .com on the end). We may start doing more track reviews of local cars and yours sounds like it could be a fun one to try! Dave's done a lot of racing in Corvettes, so it's a good fit for his background and dad-bod.
Anti-sway bars reduce body roll. Did you upgrade them? Nice coil overs for sure, but body roll is controlled by the bars.
Spring rate and changing to non-progressive springs should help too.
Swaybars only work in roll, springs and dampers work both in roll and in pitch and dive. Swaybars are a secondary tuning device for roll stiffness, but the springs set the baseline.
The M3 has some beefy ARK Swaybars already installed
@5mins Proving yet again, even Canadians can't handle the metric system. (#cm not mm)
The rear spring adjuster goes on the top of the sprig else you can’t adjust it without taking everything else
Try jacking both sides of the same axle to save fucking around with arb drop links in the future. Good work though guys!!! And your Mms are our Cms lol!!
Nice!
what would you commend for an ideal setting for the damping setting 28 way adjustable dampers
I want to see Moose driving
Great video
Did you have the E-brake on when doing the rears? For future, disengage it and that spring will just come right out.
Are the top gaskets needed? He was holding it with reinforcement plate.
Why did you choose to go with the BR series rather than DS? How do the shock dynos look on these?
Don't do one side at a time for coilovers. The swaybar will push up and give you a hard time. Better lift each axle at the same time
Edit: oh ok, the end link attach to the coilover anyway. That's a bit strange lol
It's a REAL M3!! 💛💙💜 Is it a 3.0 5speed or 3.2 6speed or something else?
Euro 3.0 5-speed
yay time lapse
I'm pretty sure the rear spring adjuster is supposed to be on top of the spring not under it, how can you adjust it otherwise?
Did you find it hard to adjust the rear springs with the adjusters on the bottom Rather then the top?
Why would BMW put those giant mufflers so close to the rear wheels? Almost looks like it could rub.
is the same moose from the 8thcivic.com forums? he was really knowledgeable in brakes and suspension
Yup, same Moose.
sorry, can you tell me how many nm the screws must be tightened to? thank you
i agree on the reinforcement plate in front but the back is actually the weakest link you should seriously consider with 10k springs.
we did put reinforcing plates back there too.
yes but only the slap ons all the dudes at my track icar told me they weld extra metal to the towers because there's too little metal and eventually the stress cracks the towers because of stiff setups.
The weight of the car is transferred to the chasis sheetmetal thru the separate spring, this the bulk of the stress/load. The separate Damper/shock adds little load to the chassis. The shock tower reinforcememt plate should be fine. A number of track focused cars do a true coil-over conversion, with the spring and shock bolting up where the shock sits. This requires substantial (Welded) reinforcement of the whole area. . The Weak spots in the rear of the car are where the Sub-frame bolts up (Already reinforced from the factory ...because M3), the trailing arm pockets and the sway-bar mounts. These will be welded in at a later date
tks for the info
i have had many suspension setups on my euro e36 m3 evo, bilsien b12 kit too stiff and skittish on bumps, hsd and bs coilovers both shit, finnally spent the dough and got kwv3 which are awesome and so much better than all the other cheap tat.
MOOOOOSSSSSEEEEEEE !!
Will you guys review a Lexus ISF ? It has been forgotten and not many people track it.
You got one for us to review?
you guys at TMP?
What big brake kit is that?
Porsche 911 996 non-turbo calipers with adapter mounts and E46 M-Sports rotors with Hawk Streey/Race pads.Check the part 2 video of this series,they installed it there
What about FEAL coilovers?
You really need to put in a Z3 or E46 ZHP steering rack
It is on roadmap
The "ZHP" rack is a bit of a myth pretty much all 330's came with the yellow tag rack and IIRC all the facelift 330's had them no need to pay extra for a rack from the zhp.
Dirt4k not a myth. Rack doctor tore them apart
That's actually not max camber. You have to remove the inside bolts and set them on the next thread. Still that's a nice setup right there.
Is that safe to do so? And how much camber do you gain?
No problem. Those bolts only suffer vertical loads. If there was a problem there wouldn't be different thread positions. :)
We knew somebody would spot that! We did in fact max it out as you've suggested before aligning it. Just didn't shoot any video of it so used that clip in the edit.
How much camber did you get by maxing it out?
Shouldn’t the rear reinforcement plate go below the top surface of the shock?
It sandwiches the OE sheet metal between the HD upper shock mount and the aftermarket reinforcing plate. Helps spread the loads over a larger area.
I see a lot of understeer and push. Need better alignment settings.
Are the BR series fast on track?
even budget coilovers are way better than stock suspension, but they are too stiff and not comfortable driving city especially road bumps and humps, but even road works just great
Drift it one-time
This e36 is a real euro spec right?
Another data point. My us spec m3 is many seconds quicker per lap around fhis track.
What sort of price is this kit?..
Moooooooooooooose
CENTIMETERS obviously... ;)
Anyone have the STX coilovers? I got them new and installed by a reputable place. They have been retightened at the strut mounts a few times but they are constantly making noise at low speed bumps. It’s annoying. Anyone have this problem?
Do you have pillowball mounts on them?
On m3 u shouldn't need the reinforcement plates
AK-DAVE- 47 its the same towers so why wouldnt you?
use 50 % of your fot on the brake and gass whit the other half of your fot. in sted of heel to ( sorry bad englihs)
Is it just me or is the steering ratio really slow on that car?
zeroyon223 would make a pretty cool video, get on it speed academy guys!
It is a slow rack, for sure. Might be a good fit for Moose, though, who is prone to moments of extreme excitement! Haha
by welding metal
Moose you are talking about centimeters. 1 centimeter is 10 millimeters. One foot is around 304,8mm or 30.48cm. One inch is 25.3 millimeters or 2.53cm. Im being anal here am i. I bet you knew what you were talking about. Just mixed up.
Ya, Moose's brain often moves faster than his mouth.
25.4mm in an inch *
That guy looks dangerous to work around lol
Moose, yer a dude
4:50 wait what? thats a woopsie
Lol nobody can heel and toe an e36 it's more of a big toe and pinky toe
If moose wants to go fast, he could probably lose a few pounds. Not only would he increase his quality and longevity of life, but he would go faster. He could also get a better car.
BC coilovers.. lmao. Junk
LeBMW skeet Ive seen literally every brand called junk by someone.
Well compared to TC Klines, Ground Control, Fortune Autos, Ohlins, H&R, fk, bilsteins, ...... BC is junk. I've had 2 e36 M3's and an mroadster. I would never run BC's. lol
Hmm. That's interesting, I also own an estoril blue m3 with BC's and they feel absolutely amazing. Unless you've tried them you can't call them junk. Opinions are like assholes though 😊 (BC's sponsor almost all of formula drift cars but 🐸 ⛾)
Estoril Doge lol ground controls, fortune auto are utter garbage.
OOOHHH JAAA, DAS IST SEHR GUT!