Maybe not the creative or artistic side of writing, but as an academic writer, most of these fears are a daily part of my endeavours. Thank you for this great listen!
The fifth one is me all over. Sometimes 'owning your shit' entails realizing you suck. This felt like a very short hour and a quarter; it just shot by. Fascinating. Thanks so much.
This episode made me realize my biggest fear is actually creating good work. And no one giving a fuck or noticing. My worst-case scenario is people without a bias to yes man me tell me it's good. But never being able to get noticed or picked up. I can make peace with being Kilgore Trout and needing a writing partner. I realize I may suck at the actual writing but still gave good ideas and big picture view. I can deal with that. But if what I write or the games I make are actually good. But no ome ever cares. That fucks with me. But now that I'm self-aware of it, I can work through that fear and flange my shit up. Thank you Dan & Ty, (and also That Guy ;) ) Respect
I really enjoyed the honesty both of you brought to this episode of the show. Very insightful & in a way, inspirational. Thanks, keep up the good work!
Thanks for sharing the reality that, for a lot of creatives, the fear continues even when there's been success, and that the fear can look like many different things. I have a lot to ponder over!
Great episode! It triggered some memories from when I was a paid artist, and still applies now even though I’m in the Navy. Daniel should make more regular appearances.
At 25:00 in, Ty mentions that feeling you have being expressed in words but you didn't know you needed it yet. For me that was John Steakley's "Armor". Very first page, right before chapter 1 is a quote: "You Are. What you do. When it counts. - The Masao". Forty years later, it's still there for me.
I finished Leviathan Falls at the weekend and I'm still trying to process the ending of the greatest sci-fi series I've ever read. Been reading sci-fi for over thirty years and nothing will come close to The Expanse. You stuck the landing like a Valkyrie.
That is good to know. I've just finished Babylon's Ashes and have adored the story so far, both in book and TV form. I'm really nervous about the 30-year leap as I got so attached to the characters. Thanks for the reassurance. I will now press on.
I like the idea of rushing through the writing process as fast as possible just to finish it and move on to something else. Just enough coherence to get the plot outline, jokes, and quips in.
Hey guys! I'm new to the channel. Just finished the book series for the first time, and absolutely LOVED it! Discovered them through the show, which is also outstanding. Just wanted to thank you both for creating such a great story! It's become one of my very favorite stories.
Interesting episode and i do recognize a lot of the things with what i work with. I do photo manipulation and graphic design and i can often have that feeling of not having the skills for it. I do have some trained skillsets that i can lean on, but there's still an uncertainty to a new project. Also doesn't help that some of what i do vary a lot in style. I know some artists that stick 100% to a very specific style and it seems like there's a comfort to that for them, but that's not me, even though changing so much can create a bunch of fear. But i also often feel that there's a point in the process where things start to click differently and the project becomes very energizing
So glad to see David Foster Wallace and Jonathan Franzen (in disguise) discussing their collaboration. This time they discussed the 1st enemy of a man of knowledge, will they tackle clarity next?
Really disappointed Ty's number one fear wasn't "the fear of living up to Die Hard" cause as we all know it's the greatest movie ever made. My way of getting around the fear of the blank page is to jot down a bunch of story ideas on post-it notes, walk around for months with this absurd amount of post-its in my bad, and when it becomes truly ridiculous I finally sit down at my computer and write everything down.
Creating in a vacuum is difficult. I think you need at least one other person you can bounce ideas off, get input from, etc. It's even better if you have a group or community of other creatives to inspire you even if they're creating in a different form than you are (visual art vs music vs acting vs writing ) When you're in school you take it for granted that you will be critiqued & inspired. Once you go out into the real world to try & be a professional ...so many people stop writing, painting, performing because they have no support from other creative people & "real life" aka paying bills, takes precedence.
What I find interesting is that all of the material for the expanse; the 10 novels, the official backstory graphic novel, the short stories all add up to 5,976 pages. Couldn't get to 6,000? Of course, I jest. I believe the two of you finished off that saga perfectly. It was very good work and I bought it all.
I draw. I work with clay. I make paper flowers. I paint. My art is pretty ADHD. Got an artistic block? Go learn something else. Bored? Learn something else. I’m pretty good at art in general. I just can’t sit still within one medium.
I hear you about the "angry at everything" TH-camrs. I think we all know who they are, and I like some of their content, but when their entire channels are dedicated to shitting on everything it gets pretty depressing real quick, and also turns their fanbase into conservative boomers who say "Hollyweird".
Fan #7 Checking In. Thank GOD we get to see THE OTHER GUY. Welcome Daniel, we missed you .
Maybe not the creative or artistic side of writing, but as an academic writer, most of these fears are a daily part of my endeavours. Thank you for this great listen!
The fifth one is me all over. Sometimes 'owning your shit' entails realizing you suck. This felt like a very short hour and a quarter; it just shot by. Fascinating. Thanks so much.
This episode made me realize my biggest fear is actually creating good work.
And no one giving a fuck or noticing.
My worst-case scenario is people without a bias to yes man me tell me it's good. But never being able to get noticed or picked up.
I can make peace with being Kilgore Trout and needing a writing partner. I realize I may suck at the actual writing but still gave good ideas and big picture view. I can deal with that.
But if what I write or the games I make are actually good. But no ome ever cares.
That fucks with me.
But now that I'm self-aware of it, I can work through that fear and flange my shit up.
Thank you Dan & Ty, (and also That Guy ;) )
Respect
This was a great episode. 🙏
"Or whatever Heinlein was doing." ROTFL!! XD
I really enjoyed the honesty both of you brought to this episode of the show. Very insightful & in a way, inspirational. Thanks, keep up the good work!
Thanks for sharing the reality that, for a lot of creatives, the fear continues even when there's been success, and that the fear can look like many different things. I have a lot to ponder over!
Poor Joseph, gets so much abuse 😆 This was a wonderful conversation, thank you guys. 💖
This dudes just breakdown the current state of TH-cam right here 12:55
Great episode! It triggered some memories from when I was a paid artist, and still applies now even though I’m in the Navy. Daniel should make more regular appearances.
At 25:00 in, Ty mentions that feeling you have being expressed in words but you didn't know you needed it yet. For me that was John Steakley's "Armor". Very first page, right before chapter 1 is a quote: "You Are. What you do. When it counts. - The Masao". Forty years later, it's still there for me.
"Thats it that there's the answer there: be gentle with yourself."
(Poor bastard.)
This ^ here is the most real take away ever. 😅
I finished Leviathan Falls at the weekend and I'm still trying to process the ending of the greatest sci-fi series I've ever read. Been reading sci-fi for over thirty years and nothing will come close to The Expanse. You stuck the landing like a Valkyrie.
Daniel has a few copies if you misplace yours.
That is good to know. I've just finished Babylon's Ashes and have adored the story so far, both in book and TV form. I'm really nervous about the 30-year leap as I got so attached to the characters. Thanks for the reassurance. I will now press on.
Appreciate the insight to Fear ❤
Very important discussion and can definitely be applied to many other aspects of life for sure
I like the idea of rushing through the writing process as fast as possible just to finish it and move on to something else. Just enough coherence to get the plot outline, jokes, and quips in.
Hey guys! I'm new to the channel. Just finished the book series for the first time, and absolutely LOVED it! Discovered them through the show, which is also outstanding. Just wanted to thank you both for creating such a great story! It's become one of my very favorite stories.
Interesting episode and i do recognize a lot of the things with what i work with. I do photo manipulation and graphic design and i can often have that feeling of not having the skills for it. I do have some trained skillsets that i can lean on, but there's still an uncertainty to a new project. Also doesn't help that some of what i do vary a lot in style. I know some artists that stick 100% to a very specific style and it seems like there's a comfort to that for them, but that's not me, even though changing so much can create a bunch of fear.
But i also often feel that there's a point in the process where things start to click differently and the project becomes very energizing
Well, and here i thought I devoured all of your content. Now I have hours of podcasts to catch up on, thank you guys 😂
"You are not That Guy. You are not That Guy"
If Wes doesn't pop in and say "I *am* that guy," I'm going to be very disappointed.
Thank you for your work.
Thank you so much - this information & your advice is just what I need right now. Heading over to Patreon now.
Ty and Daniel! Saweet!
I appreciate the Space 1999 Eagle on the shelf behind Ty.
thinking the same!
So glad to see David Foster Wallace and Jonathan Franzen (in disguise) discussing their collaboration.
This time they discussed the 1st enemy of a man of knowledge, will they tackle clarity next?
Really disappointed Ty's number one fear wasn't "the fear of living up to Die Hard" cause as we all know it's the greatest movie ever made. My way of getting around the fear of the blank page is to jot down a bunch of story ideas on post-it notes, walk around for months with this absurd amount of post-its in my bad, and when it becomes truly ridiculous I finally sit down at my computer and write everything down.
Great talk. Thanks guys!
This was cool!
On fear of writing due to criticism... you spelled endeavours wrong in the description lol
I wonder if either of these guys knew Brian McNaughton. I love his book Throne of Bones.
Creating in a vacuum is difficult. I think you need at least one other person you can bounce ideas off, get input from, etc. It's even better if you have a group or community of other creatives to inspire you even if they're creating in a different form than you are (visual art vs music vs acting vs writing ) When you're in school you take it for granted that you will be critiqued & inspired. Once you go out into the real world to try & be a professional ...so many people stop writing, painting, performing because they have no support from other creative people & "real life" aka paying bills, takes precedence.
I'd be curious to lnow what type of fear GRRM has been dealing with for the past 13 years.
What I find interesting is that all of the material for the expanse; the 10 novels, the official backstory graphic novel, the short stories all add up to 5,976 pages. Couldn't get to 6,000? Of course, I jest. I believe the two of you finished off that saga perfectly. It was very good work and I bought it all.
The two main men themselves
Ty and SkyGuy's son?
Weird thing that I see what looks like two people but know they are just one guy..
I draw. I work with clay. I make paper flowers. I paint. My art is pretty ADHD. Got an artistic block? Go learn something else. Bored? Learn something else. I’m pretty good at art in general. I just can’t sit still within one medium.
I hear you about the "angry at everything" TH-camrs. I think we all know who they are, and I like some of their content, but when their entire channels are dedicated to shitting on everything it gets pretty depressing real quick, and also turns their fanbase into conservative boomers who say "Hollyweird".