I was just there last month after being away for 5 years due to covid travel limits. I was devastated to see Horton Plaza looking like a demolition sacrifice. Where Nordstrom was is falling down , and people I asked were not knowing what was going on, or what was coming for this once vibrant and gorgeous mall. Horton was a focal point of my and many people's lives and to see it being destroyed like this breaks my heart. Homeless people are all over San Diego and it was not as bad there as in other parts of the city...I was a downtown resident for years and the taking down of this historic place is next to criminal as far as I'm concerned and many feel the same. Watching this makes me angry the way it is slanted to make us think that this destruction is progress....nothing is further from the actual truth.
Perhaps for many people the demolition of the previous Horton Plaza does not mean much, but let me tell you that for me, it was my meeting point between my son and I for a long time, it is a great pain in what this new construction is becoming.😥
Time marches on, it was dead space and is now going to be a great place for new offices and a revitalized place with restaurants and stores for more families to make new memories. The old mall was awesome in my youth and I’ll always have memories so shopping there and going to the movies but it was time for something new and fresh
@@MG-jv7pe Mixed emotions there. When you lose the original essence of something, you'll never get it back. Time marches on but few things in San Diego said "this is what we did in the 1980s and that deserves to be preserved" better than Horton Plaza. We can say "Time Marches On" now but perhaps at one point someone could have said that for the old 1915 Expo structures at Balboa Park being in disrepair needing to be demolished? No one shy of a very severe earthquake would allow that to happen today. They could have killed the facade the Hotel Del Coronado even more than they did, claiming it was a tired old wooden structure that was too busy, chaotic and playful. They could have claimed it didn't meet the needs of the 20th century. Maybe they could have turned it into a stylized glass box in the 70s perhaps only preserving the turret as a focal piece? How sad would it be now only to have photographs of what was and some 70s drab glass structure in its place? Sure Horton Plaza was just glorified over-designed shopping mall. It was designed to sell food and widgets but for a multitude of reasons those left the building. What made it a place I wanted to go to was the fun, strange playground-like architecture that invited creativity, color, controlled chaos and non-conformity into a very real space. I've been going there since it opened and we never went there solely for the stores, we went there for the experience of it as a structure. There were 5 shopping malls between us and Horton Plaza. When we went to Horton Plaza it's because it was like going to Balboa Park or the Hotel Del. It was an experience. I'll probably see this new "Horton Campus" one time to give it a shot. From the renderings it looks like they kept the bones of the original and took out everything that made it fun and unique but a few focal elements. Another soulless corporate complex trying to be too many things at once. My childhood, my nostalgia, my enjoyment of San Diego is in the other structure and if anything I'll probably stand around saying "This used to be there, and that was over there." So be it. The new generations seem to be too busy looking at their phones engineering the best "idea" of an experience in the form of a well crafted selfie to give a shit about being in the moment enjoying a space in the present time. Now I'm just being bitter. LOL. I'll show myself to the door.
@@iheartlreoy8134 I may be a little more willing to read what you have to say if you didn't tell me to "shut up" but here's my perspective: People have been homeless on the streets of SD before Horton Plaza, during Horton Plaza and there will still be homeless people on the street when this turns into a vanilla boujee tech center with overpriced shops and jobs that feed the high-rise community, not the homeless. It's not that I'm callous to the homeless or those in need, it's simply that I don't know what solves the problem. Do you? Many of them bus in from other states, a lot of them are mentally ill, a lot of them are severe addicts. Those who are poor trying to make it in California have their ways but it's usually not living in the heart of one of the most expensive cities in the state. In my city there are shelters, free food, free clothes, many are being paid monthly by the government, and they're not choosing a better life for themselves. They're choosing the street. I've seen the same people on the street for 13 years here. I mean, if you want to get out of poverty in the first place, coastal California is a VERY tough state to do that in to begin with. My cost of living is INSANE and I work for that -- but it's an easy state to live on the street. That said we give to charities and we do our best to help. No one seems to be solving homelessness in a meaningful way partly because of how varied and complicated of an issue it is. How exactly with the current iteration of Horton Plaza do it? Tell me how we do it, I'm listening.
5 to 8 years it’s back to being an empty building. The return of homeless vs security guards all over again. Owners leaving their dogs poops everywhere too. San Diego should have reached out to Steve Ballmer and the Clippers to move back here. Allow Steve to build his stadium in downtown. Shopping malls are dead. It’s rare anyone would want to visit one unless it’s something like UTC.
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I’m excited by what they’re doing; I can’t wait to see the result!
I was just there last month after being away for 5 years due to covid travel limits. I was devastated to see Horton Plaza looking like a demolition sacrifice. Where Nordstrom was is falling down , and people I asked were not knowing what was going on, or what was coming for this once vibrant and gorgeous mall. Horton was a focal point of my and many people's lives and to see it being destroyed like this breaks my heart. Homeless people are all over San Diego and it was not as bad there as in other parts of the city...I was a downtown resident for years and the taking down of this historic place is next to criminal as far as I'm concerned and many feel the same. Watching this makes me angry the way it is slanted to make us think that this destruction is progress....nothing is further from the actual truth.
Wait, Nordstrom's was five stories?!
3:25 Glad to see the developers are keeping a few pieces of nice architecture from the original plaza.
i love those black and white pillars. it feels so 80s. love that they’re keeping those elements from 1985 when it first reopened as a mall
Fantastic approach, as much as I prefer historical preservation (graduated from the 1929 Hoover High) the Horton Campus is a good recovery.
Perhaps for many people the demolition of the previous Horton Plaza does not mean much, but let me tell you that for me, it was my meeting point between my son and I for a long time, it is a great pain in what this new construction is becoming.😥
Time marches on, it was dead space and is now going to be a great place for new offices and a revitalized place with restaurants and stores for more families to make new memories.
The old mall was awesome in my youth and I’ll always have memories so shopping there and going to the movies but it was time for something new and fresh
It wasn't demolished though, it was redeveloped... maybe you can stop by there to check it out once complete.
@@MG-jv7pe Mixed emotions there. When you lose the original essence of something, you'll never get it back. Time marches on but few things in San Diego said "this is what we did in the 1980s and that deserves to be preserved" better than Horton Plaza. We can say "Time Marches On" now but perhaps at one point someone could have said that for the old 1915 Expo structures at Balboa Park being in disrepair needing to be demolished? No one shy of a very severe earthquake would allow that to happen today. They could have killed the facade the Hotel Del Coronado even more than they did, claiming it was a tired old wooden structure that was too busy, chaotic and playful. They could have claimed it didn't meet the needs of the 20th century. Maybe they could have turned it into a stylized glass box in the 70s perhaps only preserving the turret as a focal piece? How sad would it be now only to have photographs of what was and some 70s drab glass structure in its place?
Sure Horton Plaza was just glorified over-designed shopping mall. It was designed to sell food and widgets but for a multitude of reasons those left the building. What made it a place I wanted to go to was the fun, strange playground-like architecture that invited creativity, color, controlled chaos and non-conformity into a very real space. I've been going there since it opened and we never went there solely for the stores, we went there for the experience of it as a structure. There were 5 shopping malls between us and Horton Plaza. When we went to Horton Plaza it's because it was like going to Balboa Park or the Hotel Del. It was an experience.
I'll probably see this new "Horton Campus" one time to give it a shot. From the renderings it looks like they kept the bones of the original and took out everything that made it fun and unique but a few focal elements. Another soulless corporate complex trying to be too many things at once. My childhood, my nostalgia, my enjoyment of San Diego is in the other structure and if anything I'll probably stand around saying "This used to be there, and that was over there." So be it. The new generations seem to be too busy looking at their phones engineering the best "idea" of an experience in the form of a well crafted selfie to give a shit about being in the moment enjoying a space in the present time. Now I'm just being bitter. LOL. I'll show myself to the door.
@@wizardmix people are homeless on the street shut up we need jobs and we need homes
@@iheartlreoy8134 I may be a little more willing to read what you have to say if you didn't tell me to "shut up" but here's my perspective: People have been homeless on the streets of SD before Horton Plaza, during Horton Plaza and there will still be homeless people on the street when this turns into a vanilla boujee tech center with overpriced shops and jobs that feed the high-rise community, not the homeless.
It's not that I'm callous to the homeless or those in need, it's simply that I don't know what solves the problem. Do you? Many of them bus in from other states, a lot of them are mentally ill, a lot of them are severe addicts. Those who are poor trying to make it in California have their ways but it's usually not living in the heart of one of the most expensive cities in the state.
In my city there are shelters, free food, free clothes, many are being paid monthly by the government, and they're not choosing a better life for themselves. They're choosing the street. I've seen the same people on the street for 13 years here. I mean, if you want to get out of poverty in the first place, coastal California is a VERY tough state to do that in to begin with. My cost of living is INSANE and I work for that -- but it's an easy state to live on the street. That said we give to charities and we do our best to help.
No one seems to be solving homelessness in a meaningful way partly because of how varied and complicated of an issue it is. How exactly with the current iteration of Horton Plaza do it? Tell me how we do it, I'm listening.
5 to 8 years it’s back to being an empty building. The return of homeless vs security guards all over again. Owners leaving their dogs poops everywhere too.
San Diego should have reached out to Steve Ballmer and the Clippers to move back here. Allow Steve to build his stadium in downtown.
Shopping malls are dead. It’s rare anyone would want to visit one unless it’s something like UTC.