Extraction Retraction Regret Syndrome™ (E.R.R.S.™)
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- Extraction Retraction Regret Syndrome™ (E.R.R.S.™) is a constellation of esthetic, functional, and emotional signs and symptoms associated with retractive orthodontic procedures.
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I wish I wasn’t too late. I hate my face and I hate smiling. I’m in pain everyday. I hate laughing and talking in front of people. 💔😔 I’ll regret getting extractions for the rest of my life.
Am planning to reverse it... You can too
You are not alone.Iam too living in pain everyday
@@maulikcr9 i would have done reversing if it is possible with natural tooth.May be in future if stem cell dental implant is available i would definitely go for it
I live in North Dakota. I’m 25 years old and a mom of a 2 and 1 year old. I likely wouldn’t be able to travel. I did get a referral from my dentist for sleep apnea and cronic headaches. I feel like I’m choking on my tongue at night. I hope this ends up going somewhere. Thank you!
You know about Mewing?
You should help lot of people. You be awarded for pointing this. Especially in india this is worst my friend died of suffocation. TMJ, depression, adenoids extraction surgery kept him sick. May his souls rest in peace. Please make video on bad wisdom teeth
Where in India are you located? I'm in India too. I would like to know what happened to your friend, as I'm going through something similar. Please get back to me.....
@@shankar0cr iam also from india.i extracted 4 tooth for braces and live in pain and regret everyday.
@@midhunmenon I'm so sorry to hear that. What are your symptoms?
Everyone from India who where suffering from extraction orthodontics should share our whatapp no so that we can make whatapp group so we all together can bargain and compell doctor for reversal treatmeny
My no 7903739640 yours plz
I had this done at 19 and it ruined so much of my airway function, swallowing function, and I still live with chronic Tmj pain even after myofunctional treatment & Invisalign to help, not to mention the facial structure changes and my self esteem being permanently effected.
I pray all the time I will be able to reopen my spaces. I can’t wait to be able to afford it. I would make payments the rest of my life to achieve it 🙏 omg
Excuse me, but how much does it cost exactly?
@@csx3180 I don’t know how much the implants cost but I’m guessing like $2,000 for both the reopening and then the implants. I’m not completely sure. I’ve been quoted for the MARPE appliance and then possibly braces again after. I forgot the price but i know it didn’t surprise me hah
@@tinkerbellys 2k? thats nothing
It cost me about 2000$ in my country called Nepal for 2 upper teeth. But i had my gum loss in that new gap, my orthodontist was saying new implants wont last long and to close that gap again.
Gums above my teeth have visibly come out with the roots of my teeth but gum above that gap slightly moved inwards, looks like implants wont fit properly
I decided to put implant since almost gap is made. Hope i could get good suggestion. Hope i could live relief.
If you decide consider this.
What appliances did you use to cause this?
Luckily there is internet. Otherwise my dad would have agreed to have my 4 teeth removed!
Where they going to remove the top and bottom ones?
Hopefully they didn't remove any of your teeth. I had all four of my premolars removed and my wisdom teeth And it has been a living nightmare!
My parents trusted the orthodontist a few years ago. I did the treatment and i discovered recently that what the practionner did was wrong, and that it only was "camouflage". I'm really sad.
Happily, I did not do the same error with my 4 wiseteeth !
@@lynndaniels4135 I can understand whay you're saying, really. Have you seen any practionner trustworthy ?
@@N.L.-ul9ld I've been to countless doctors, but most doctors do not know anything when it comes to TMJ disorders and especially when you've had your premolars removed. I went to a doctor back in 2011 and he was a neuromuscular dentist and he was able to cure me then and he's the one that diagnosed me properly. He told me they should have never removed my premolars. My lower jaw protrudes back and it cuts my airway off now and I have no room for my tongue. My vertigo is screwed up and it has affected my speech. And I also get symptoms that are similar to Parkinson's disease. I'm in chronic pain and muscle tension in my neck and shoulders. I have chronic anxiety. The neuromuscular dentist was able to help me back in 2011 and I had no issues until I was in a car accident in 2015 and it shattered my repositioning plate that he made for me unlock my jaw back out of place. I went back to see him but he would not take my case on a second time because he was getting ready to retire and he said my case was too complex. So I've been looking for a doctor ever since. I did find one in Houston, but he wants $80,000 and it's not covered by insurance. And for those that are unaware that you can apply for disability due to TMJ disorder. The neuromuscular dentist could have fixed it permanently back in 2011 but it would have cost me $1,500 per tooth on my lower jaw. Didn't have the money for that so I had to go the cheapest route which was still 3500 add to my pocket.
Hi Dr.Hang, how can I become apart of helping spread this information and helping orthodontist change this! I am a dental assistant also suffering from this! This is tremendously important and I’ve gone from orthodontist to orthodontist saying they can’t help me! I have breathing problems, constant headache and neck pain, I can’t breathe making me tilt my head back, and I feel like the muscles in my face aren’t supported having an effect on my mood and face! It took away my natural beauty as well I’m 22 suffering from this! I also almost lost my job recommending a parent not to have those teeth pulled as my doctor suggested, I had to give them perspective from someone who suffers from this! I couldn’t let that little girl go through the exact same thing as me I showed her parents a before and after of me and they questioned, that’s you? I explained to them and they saw exactly what I was talking about, this procedure should be illegal or considered malpractice in certain circumstances, I had mild crowding, that is the treatment they chose and now I have constant pain, emotional stress, and overall health issues because of this! How can I receive treatment? But more importantly how can I help become spar of helping other people!?
Talk to some dental assiciation in your country first.
i ask allah to help you
I praise you will find any solution. This treatment should be illegal.
do you think the result would be the same with sever crowding?
Bigest mistake for my life 💔
thank you Dr Hang for getting the message out
You are a noble men sir Dr.William Hang if any doctor in the world deserve a noble price for medicine then it should be. Sharing your knowledge and experience with other orthodontist collage is surely changing life of thousands people not for better health for whole new hope in life.
I also had my upper premolars extracted to match my upper jaw to my underdeveloped lower jaw when I was in my late teens. Unfortunately my jaws never supported each other and I’m in braces again at 36. My current orthodontist wants to retract again although the extraction spaces opened up on their own quite well. The understanding of cosmetic results as well as function for tongue space and airways is just not that much of an issue for most
How is your situation now ? Which medical practionner did you se to help you ? I'm completely lost...
@@N.L.-ul9ld I don’t want to get implants and also cannot afford to get jaw surgery. So I’m having my spaces closed and my lower arch match with what is there. It does look dished in but I want to go on with life. I’m still having closing loops right now on my upper arch so still in braces. But I just want to enjoy life without having my teeth in the way. It’s not ideal but it’s ok
@@timschulze4162 I see. I hope it will be fine. In my case, i had 2 premolar extractions with my upper jaw (ortho nerver tried to analyse my tongue posture (i had a restricted tongue-tie)). Other orthodontists told me the treatment is done and that they don't want to expand and reopen a correct alignment. I have pratically all the extractions and mouth breathings aftermath. I will try to see an ENT and a maxillofacial surgeon specialised in sleep. In my country, if your anatomicals aspects block your airway or damage you some functionnal aspects, you can get a free jaw surgery.
Even if some ortho agree about extractions and expenders, they still only consider orthodontic results and not functionnal aspects when they see you as an adult, it's really sad. The only thing I know, now, is that my kids (if I have ones in the future) will never have to deal with those sorts of problems, i can assure you that.
Just had 2 premolars extracted in my lower jaw 3 weeks ago. Instant regret .
Also regret getting braces put on
Hopefully people get to know the risk of extraction
What is done is done. You can still look after your functionnal habits (breathing, tongue posture, swalloing). Try to get an appointment with a myofunctionnal therapist (or an oro-maxillo-facial physiotherapist). Don't let things damage you !
I had mine removed when I was 9. That was 10 years ago. I fear it’s too late for me.
no it is not too late u can open the spaces at any age
@@BushraMTprofile Even after having done a braces treatment juste after the premolar extractions. Wouldn't it destroys the jaw and the roots of my theeth much more ?
@@BushraMTprofile It is not what told me my orthodontist. I tried many and they still say me the same.
You should be the main guy. Please help me doctor
True , Thanks for this video
I thought I had lost my mind! My right bicuspid and left canine were removed due to a retained canine and I guess overcrowding. The my teeth pushed back to close the gaps. I am in so much pain and the change in my face makes me sick. I hope I can find someone in my area to help me with this. Seeing this from Dr Hang gives me hope
🙏🙏🙏🙏 I want to go to you!!! I need help! 😭😭😭😭😭 I hate my face.
Are class 2 elastics retractive and should they be avoided?
Use your common sense to figure out what’s refractive or not. Is the planned movement forward or backward. If something is being moved back to compensate than that’s retraction. If something’s being moved forward to compensate-that’s what’s ideal. (Unless of course the patient already has “too much” ‘forward growth,’ at which point anyone could easily justify a retractive approach
I had small spring in the wire between that extracted tooth. Now that gap is almost made.
Who regret wisdom tooth removed?
I do. There was nothing wrong with them, just a few small cavities, and some gum tissue overgrowth on the lower ones, but they were straight. I foolishly caved in to the advice from the oral surgeon ( who insisted that they are not necessary) and my mother, who never got me dental care as a child, ( fir whatever her neurotic reason, she didn't believe in dental care, and even tried to pressure my into have my second lower molars removed , just because of a small cavity.
All I wanted was the cavities treated and the excess gum tissue removed, but they nagged at me saying that Wisdom teeth would cause problems. Removing them didn't affy my face shape, but, still, they are part of one's body, and shouldn't be needlessly taken out
One of my biggest regrets.
Doc have you considered opening offices in other states?
So.. I have 4 wisdom teeth removal scheduled tomorrow.. I don't understand what he's saying? Is this about wisdom teeth removal, it causes facial deformity? I asked prior to booking, and I was told it doesn't. Can someone please clarify?
Wisdom teeth removal is necessary
He means other extractions
Dont do extration.
@XXI I ended up cancelling last minute but I get migraines from dental pain. I don't know enough to make an educated decision.
@@user-nn5qw5mu4m 💔same and I regret 💔💔💔💔
@@user-ek1cb8wf1g 😔 Do you regret removing the wisdom teeth or not removing them?
none of this is evidence based
Which bit is not evidence based? It's staring you in the face!
Do you really need evidences to believe this is happening? I am one of those millions victims who are suffering from extraction and retraction evidence based orthodontics which is widely taught in school around the world. Sometimes you need to think outside of the system and just listen more to others. Don't be ignorance like those orthodontists who's making a living by ruining people life and try to come up with excuses because what the victims said aren't evidence based.
@@Chorith77 science is based on evidence. go join the flat earth society
@@jasonchoy535 bruh
There are MANY cases of people having problems because of orthodontics, I am one of them.
There is a LOT of evidence on the negative impact of mouthbreating, the importance of nasal breathing, posture, nutrition and other factors on facial structure development.
Don't compare that to flat earth wtf. If you refuse to listen and try other methods then simply don't watch.
Ikr. My ortho insisted that I might lose weight that's why my cheeks became hollow but I gain weight thou. I even showed him before and after. He still insisted that wisdom teeth extraction + retraction has nothing to do with it. Like wth i already showed him proofs.
This is mostly for people for protrusion mouth.