As soon as I opened your video, I seen you had a cup of tea... I had to get one before I started to even play the rest of the video haha :) Great vid though and it really shows what you value in your setups :D
Ironcap swordsmen are underrated, full maxed out with the tree techs their charge cd is 10 secs, and the dmg of that charge is really high and also stuns. Yesterday i wiped out berserkers with a clean charge using them. They can be very very good if you can chain multiple charges, flank, etc. Best green unit along with pike militia imo, people doesn't realize how much dmg they can dish out with that charge most of the time. Their only true problem is they are not good at melee, so it is all about hit and run with them.
Now with Prefecture Pikemen update, I think they are much more effective against hero, unlike the Landsknetchts they can just charge instantly which can caught hero off guard and their damage update is very good since they're much more mobile and heavy strikes after charge. I would put them in B tier since they're still weak against units unless you charge behind the enemies
Personally i have been enjoy a lot green tier units fully upgraded i fell like they do pretty good in siege Iron cap sword man and rattan pikeman are my favorite
I find that most of this tier list is agreeable! If thinking of warbands. Palace Guards and Paladins... I'm not quite sure I would place them in different tiers, from what I can gather of their performance. The recent buff of PG really refined them into a useful and desirable unit, although they are not quite as good as Paladins when it comes to trading blows because of PL having a very good active block, the brace command of PG really can make them shine in the right situation. However, I do think having a Baseline Shield formation is a big boost for PL, and also being faster. While in PG topline lacks a good formation, and bottom line doesn't look as strong considering the 3 perks of "number of enemies that each soldier can attack +1, can Daze on attacks, and Shield bash." But the lack of numbers and ratios on the descriptions makes it hard to really gauge how the 2 two lines compare to each other. In a generous theory, those perks would mean they can potentially do double the DPS on a target rich environment, can avoid retaliation by interrupting enemies and can break Blocks better while further controlling the enemy. But can they really? Is it animation dependent? can they consistently attack 2 enemies, and daze them? This game leaves so much in the air that is hard to even gauge unit performance properly even before considering how volatile each match can be. I'm not even that sure how much each formation affects the units stats if at all besides positioning. It would leave it all to experimentation, but the cost of resetting and its strictness makes it restrictive really do it. Shieldmaidens are... a bit weird. I unlocked only the 3 days contract, but used them quite a bit, and the impression I had is that they are decent wall, they do suffer some downsides like letting cavalry go through? and being so expensive. But the buffs they provide are nice, and their speed in Cover Commander is quite remarkable, feels good how well they respond to commands. The sword mode though, most of the times it feels like a slippery slope. Its performance doesn't feel as remarkable, and I find that they can die surprisingly easily if the situation is slightly dis-favorable for what is expected of T5 unit or even when compared to the spear/formation modes. It is nice to have both the options, such versatility on a single unit. They seem to require quite a bit of care though, and while alone they don't really perform better than their T4 counterparts, the versatility and multiplicative power their buffs can provide to allies appear to be where their potential lies. I think A, I guess a B+ would make sense too. x)
Ironcap swordsmen with the epic charge cooldown gets there charge down to 6 seconds. They also do lots of charge damage even if they aren't moving so i think for their leadership they should be at least a high B maybe low A tier. I use them to bait other unit's abilities with their charge and cancel the charge before they get there then in 6 seconds i can charge into that unit without their abilities.
What i noticed is you didnt say anything about value per leadership spend. Thats why most low tier units are in the bottom of the list. Please consider when you do a ranking the cost, both of kits and leadership. Of course silhadars are stronger than most green and blue units. But you spend way more for them. Like with stalwards. One glaive ult and an ironcap swordsmen charge kills them. I know its your opinion and this tier list shouldn't be a guide for new players.
Leadership does of course come into I agree (although I must admit kit cost really doesn't). There are some viable lower tier units like pike militia but In most battles I'd rather have 3 heroic era units than 5 or 6 green tier units
@@EvoLozGaming the kit cost is a factor with high tier units. But ironcap swords can be insane. Once had a 71 unit and 1 hero kill round with them. I get that you probably play more with purple tier units as you have premium. But bringing Fortebraccios every round doesnt sustain as a none premium player.
@@herroberbesserwisser7331 bro this is a ranking of units. Leadership relative to effectiveness is definitely a thing but kit cost is not. Either a unit is effective, for its leadership cost, or it is not. It isn't less effective in the build because it costs more for a kit. I agree with Evo on this and New players should ABSOLUTELY use this as a guide.
AAAAAAAAA PREFECTURE PIKEMAN ARE SO GOOOOOOD!!!!! I literally use them everywhere hahahaha, once on heilung fjord I got 120 kills with them, but that’s literally they’re best haha they’re so funny 😂
I don't think black dragon spearmen should be ranked lower than spear militia, they are only 10 leadership more expensive, pretty much all their stats are better, they have more formations (all of which are useful for a spear unit) they have a very decent heal which can heal almost 50% of their max hp when used, they also don't steal xp from other units you want to level and also provide the xp bonus. They are the perfect disposable spear unit in defense, and I have not had a situation where the 10 leadership point difference makes spear militia worth taking over them. Not saying they are good, I'll take black dragon javs over them pretty much every time, but at the very least they should be on par or better than spear militia.
I agree with the OP list (including berserkers) but a lot of the time i feel like i would judge units much harsher. Green javelins, black dragon pikes & javs (i actually like the spearmen), MAA, and halberdiers would all land in the not worth a barracks slot for me.
Id put imp spears into B at the very least, you are not supposed to use them alone and they can block range better than stalwarts. And the self heal with LS heal makes them very sustainable. I would used to put rattan pikeman at op since they over preformed for their cost, then got nerfed along with the other pike and is B.
I honestly think Ironcap Swordmen are underrated, their charge is crazy strong for a green unit but I'd only use them if you don't have enough leadership for Condottieri👍
Their carge do more dmg then condo carge actually, if i have epic doctriines for carge reductuion and dmg would put it on them and carge retreat every 5 sec, they could do serious dmg that way
I read on the subreddit that pike militia can double stun now with the epic doctrine. I do not have spare epic doctrines to try this but it sounds interesting!
@@EvoLozGaming you should try condos vs zerkers at the beginning of a match or when you know they don't have frenzy up. Condos win Everytime, you just need to have shock attack and it's GG
I agree with most of your selection but to me, Pike Militia is still a A and Shieldmaiden are a B and that's mostly because of their leadership cost. You can still get so much out of the PM. They will easily take down more leadership than their own cost. And if it fails, you lose very little, making them quite safe. On the opposite, the SM can do well, but it is easy to lose the leadership trade.
Spear Sgts and Men at Arms, by virtue of OP promotions, require a ranking of "does not deserve a barracks slot". Because there's no situation where you should be using Spear Sgts over Stalwarts or Men at arms over Paladins.
I really like playing Conquerors Blade and recently I receive heroic era Signaculum box and it contain Palace guards Signaculum imperial spear guards Signaculum imperial Javelineers Signaculum imperial Pike guards Signaculum imperial archers Signaculum Prefecture heavy Calvarymans Signaculum dagger-axe Lancers Signaculum javelin sergeants Signaculum Halberdier sergeants Signaculum Vassal longbowmans Signaculum imperial arquebusiers Signaculum yeomans Signaculum man-at-arms Signaculum spear sergeants Signaculum And could you could recommend the best unit of those
Condos need to be in Atier there is a reason everyone puts them In there warbands they are a solid unit all around and definitely worth leadership the amount of charge dmg and shield bash is insane can wipe stalls from the side can kill many high tier units by using there charge effectively
whats palace guard leadership cost in the server you play on ????? for me i play in south america server and its 230.. so i think not worthy since his regular cost is 210?? i would very appreciated for an answer.. and sorry for my bad english, thanks for your job! it helped me alot when i was beginning and it still helps me to this day!! thanks so much for all the effort! and PEACE!
I love this tierlist, very colorful and well described, can't wait for next tierlist (To see where my OP rattran marksmen end up :V ). Do you take leadership into consideration? (looking at pike militia not being A, ironcap swordsmen in C and meanwhile i can fit them in every game with my measly 726 leadership)
It depends on the unit but yes legendary units can often be worth it, for example you'll find a lot of iron reapers in battles at the moment since they are just so tanky and hard to kill :)
@@EvoLozGaming I mean my opinion is that the rattan should be atleast c or really low b Cause theey are extremely unique pike unit but i understand its not meant for everyone and does not fit most peoples play style
Ive never seen the shiladars so often but I keep see the reapers more ans more they are much better in 1o1 because they shredd everything with their charge and if you X V X V them then they are A* tier
@@leckteck5694 i think Evo even has a video in which he tested it, but without reaper charge. The silhadars won without much effort but with a perfect charge, however, the reapers win of course
Another question: there is a feature in CB that I basically ignore and can't tell if it has any actual effect - unit terrain preference. All the units have a weak to strong ranking for different terrains, but the siege maps don't really tell me what their terrain is (other than urban?) and the unit terrain preferences are not visible from the unit selection screen at the start of a match. Is there any value to these ratings or to paying attention to them? Thanks!
I do not pay much attention to the "terrain preference" but I do pay attention to the map's "weather". Rain in particular affects how units perform. For example, Muskets do not do well in the rain and suffer a penalty.
I have one objection on your tier list, Landsknechts deserve to be higher than Condos, because Condos is purely a flank charge unit, you can't charge them head on on spear/shields & pikes because you are gonna waste them, you need to w8 for the right moment & that holds you back, on the other hand Landsknechts rip through shields & delete units & heroes alike with their charge, their potential is much higher than Condos because they can push & break through places that Condos would be absolutely useless, for that reason their rank must be higher as they are obviously the better unit from the two.
I beat paladins with berserkers always, yes unit va unit they lose, but still problem is that paladins are so much easier stoped by hero while berserkers are so faster and can demolish paladins so easy when you pop rage, azaps are strong now cause they beat berserkers hard, palace guards are amazing tho, tankyestinfantry unit tbh
@@SokTeJebo If u bring berserkers to the back of those paladins, those pallys will get wiped in seconds. But i think if 1v1 heads on pallys still have the upperhand.
Hi man, do you have any tips against berserkers, I just can’t kill them. They can take too much damage, they deal too much damage, they can’t be stunned or knocked down, nothing really works against them.
There is 2 main ways to deal with berzerkers. DPS them down, with Halberds for example as they can do some serious damage with their reach and chage. Or you endure the damage enough that they get outlasted, with for example Palace Guards who do a bit of both. Berzerkers get enraged from takin damage and killing units, so they can cut down lower tiers nearly endlessly if the damage isn't too hot. But its possible to use lower tier pike units as well to kill them with the assistance of your hero. The main vulnerabilities of berzerkers are their low headcount, so if you get lots of enemies to attack few models at the same time they can't distribute the pressure well, and how they can't be controlled while enraged. With Palace Guards, just using their brace skill when they go crazy and waiting it out, then as soon as it ends reactivate it to knock them down. But yeah, they are difficult to deal with, even more when there is many of them but this is also true for others.
This is the only other place I can go to for help at this point. I have a game breaking bug that many other people have had. I try and connect to my server NA East but I just get “Reading Character List” indefinitely. I have used task manager to shutdown the game and it’s launcher and I’ve restarted my pc many times can someone please help
To be honest i don't agree with you, you put in the tseregs in the wrong tier . At least my maxed out tseregs with assassin, breakthrough, Epic charge and blunt damage doctrin are Tier A because most units can't do anything against the blunt damage and get slaughtered. I can slaughter a full unit of azaps with them and also paladins have trouble with them. Thats why they replaced my azaps. Also most heroes get slaugthered when they are standing in their way :D Beserkers on the other hand are in my opinion pretty useless so I would put them in C. They get slaughtered by my tseregs or even fortebraccios or even pike militia or just archers^^. Beserkers have only a very specific use against sword units but any other unit will kick their asses.
prefecture guards to D (if you place squires in d ;) ) .. .youre biased about those crap units ;)... even i dont fear them as longbowplayer in a close encounter spearsgts B .. they still do ok vs cav and ranged ironcap sw B .. .good leadership worth bersies......currently the most fun unit to play :) ... .today had a 181 kill run with them :) ... so i might be bersy biased atm
Well come inside my prefecture guard and you will start to fear them :p How many times a enemy hero disrespect my unit, jump into them and get slapped in less than 1 second pressing cover commander haha Fully nodded and doctrine they do serious dmg
@@niconilo97 any hero.. overconfident with prefectures.. .got one explosive arrow (not even needed) and a charge from my cheaper condis .. .and then had to attend funerals for days to mourn his prefectures ....so sorry ... that i cannot laugh... ... my arm growns tired of nuking so many prefectures .. before breakfast ;) .. .but lets behonest .. prefectures are fillers nowadays ... not a powerhouse (every filler can kill a player from time to time... .but not withstand enemy units of same level let alone higher level)
Lmfao jav sergeants better cause why? So you can throw more javelins at shield wall formations and do no damage and get destroyed in mele? Lmfao this guy ranks them based on how many throws you can get off, not how well the unit performs. Literally you know nothing of the game anymore 😂🤣
@@EvoLozGaming you don’t understand the point lol. Every unit in ranked will have a shield wall if not high p defense as well as other formations rendering the throw javelin useless in most situations 90% of the time. Unless you want to clip ai battles to make it seem like you know what your doing or that people bring trash to siege, where the extra throws might actually be useful. But realistically that’s not how things go down in higher Elo matches. And I’ll take a unit with decent mele then trash mele anyday and I can still argue to safe my “3” for hero snipes whilst having a tanky and more mele competent unit. Take the loss lol you just like the extra throws.
since the game has included the stamina bar. ITS DEAD ALREADY. and also look at what the devs did to the long bow class.....this game is finished/ DEAD
More tier lists please!!!! These are so fun and there’s not enough of them!
As soon as I opened your video, I seen you had a cup of tea... I had to get one before I started to even play the rest of the video haha :) Great vid though and it really shows what you value in your setups :D
Haha XD always need a good cup of tea with longer videos :)
Ironcap swordsmen are underrated, full maxed out with the tree techs their charge cd is 10 secs, and the dmg of that charge is really high and also stuns. Yesterday i wiped out berserkers with a clean charge using them. They can be very very good if you can chain multiple charges, flank, etc.
Best green unit along with pike militia imo, people doesn't realize how much dmg they can dish out with that charge most of the time.
Their only true problem is they are not good at melee, so it is all about hit and run with them.
You have no idea how many people I’ve trolled on the siege tower with the short cooldown
I litteraly got stuck with squires and still kicked ass, my bois are dissapointed
I have been waiting for it !
@@EvoLozGaming I must say, I fell in love with the demesne pikemen ! Not a big damage dealer but such a surprise deterrent and so cheap !
Love the content keep it up 👍
only if imperial spear guard can brace cav charges, I'd put them in S tier, what a shame
Keep up the awesome work
Thanks man :)
Joe
Now with Prefecture Pikemen update, I think they are much more effective against hero, unlike the Landsknetchts they can just charge instantly which can caught hero off guard and their damage update is very good since they're much more mobile and heavy strikes after charge. I would put them in B tier since they're still weak against units unless you charge behind the enemies
Personally i have been enjoy a lot green tier units fully upgraded i fell like they do pretty good in siege
Iron cap sword man and rattan pikeman are my favorite
@@tinolax7724 Not compared to t5 lmao
Blue r fine but green nahhh
@@samisha5834well it depend, viper pike destroy iron reaper 1v1 because their poison dommage ignore armor and you can stack it up to 5 times
I find that most of this tier list is agreeable! If thinking of warbands.
Palace Guards and Paladins... I'm not quite sure I would place them in different tiers, from what I can gather of their performance. The recent buff of PG really refined them into a useful and desirable unit, although they are not quite as good as Paladins when it comes to trading blows because of PL having a very good active block, the brace command of PG really can make them shine in the right situation. However, I do think having a Baseline Shield formation is a big boost for PL, and also being faster.
While in PG topline lacks a good formation, and bottom line doesn't look as strong considering the 3 perks of "number of enemies that each soldier can attack +1, can Daze on attacks, and Shield bash." But the lack of numbers and ratios on the descriptions makes it hard to really gauge how the 2 two lines compare to each other. In a generous theory, those perks would mean they can potentially do double the DPS on a target rich environment, can avoid retaliation by interrupting enemies and can break Blocks better while further controlling the enemy. But can they really? Is it animation dependent? can they consistently attack 2 enemies, and daze them?
This game leaves so much in the air that is hard to even gauge unit performance properly even before considering how volatile each match can be. I'm not even that sure how much each formation affects the units stats if at all besides positioning. It would leave it all to experimentation, but the cost of resetting and its strictness makes it restrictive really do it.
Shieldmaidens are... a bit weird. I unlocked only the 3 days contract, but used them quite a bit, and the impression I had is that they are decent wall, they do suffer some downsides like letting cavalry go through? and being so expensive. But the buffs they provide are nice, and their speed in Cover Commander is quite remarkable, feels good how well they respond to commands.
The sword mode though, most of the times it feels like a slippery slope. Its performance doesn't feel as remarkable, and I find that they can die surprisingly easily if the situation is slightly dis-favorable for what is expected of T5 unit or even when compared to the spear/formation modes.
It is nice to have both the options, such versatility on a single unit. They seem to require quite a bit of care though, and while alone they don't really perform better than their T4 counterparts, the versatility and multiplicative power their buffs can provide to allies appear to be where their potential lies. I think A, I guess a B+ would make sense too. x)
Do you think you will do a video breaking down the characteristics of the different provences? You know for thematic players lol.
I reality probobly not, I suspect your in the minority as most players aren't to interested in the different regions really :(
Ironcap swordsmen with the epic charge cooldown gets there charge down to 6 seconds. They also do lots of charge damage even if they aren't moving so i think for their leadership they should be at least a high B maybe low A tier. I use them to bait other unit's abilities with their charge and cancel the charge before they get there then in 6 seconds i can charge into that unit without their abilities.
i especially like how players keep underestimating them,they try to tank and i always end up getting 1 or 2 hero kills.
What i noticed is you didnt say anything about value per leadership spend. Thats why most low tier units are in the bottom of the list. Please consider when you do a ranking the cost, both of kits and leadership. Of course silhadars are stronger than most green and blue units. But you spend way more for them. Like with stalwards. One glaive ult and an ironcap swordsmen charge kills them.
I know its your opinion and this tier list shouldn't be a guide for new players.
Leadership does of course come into I agree (although I must admit kit cost really doesn't). There are some viable lower tier units like pike militia but In most battles I'd rather have 3 heroic era units than 5 or 6 green tier units
Sounds like a you problem... hahah yeh I agree but Evos a baller so he doesn’t have to worry lol :)
@@dradopted5169 Sorry i don't understand your English ?
@@EvoLozGaming the kit cost is a factor with high tier units. But ironcap swords can be insane. Once had a 71 unit and 1 hero kill round with them. I get that you probably play more with purple tier units as you have premium. But bringing Fortebraccios every round doesnt sustain as a none premium player.
@@herroberbesserwisser7331 bro this is a ranking of units. Leadership relative to effectiveness is definitely a thing but kit cost is not. Either a unit is effective, for its leadership cost, or it is not. It isn't less effective in the build because it costs more for a kit. I agree with Evo on this and New players should ABSOLUTELY use this as a guide.
evo: im just going to put the farmers over here
tseregs: am i a joke to you
Pike milita 👏 are 👏 OP tier. When used right you can EASILY pull over 80 unit kills (on purple tier units too).
I feel this video, I always built my army wide not tall.
Quick question: Men at arms/Spear Sargeants have nodes that further improve them. Do those nodes consequently improve Paladins/Stalwarts?
Yes, I believe they do.
They do, one of the reasons why they are so powerful.
pls create more tier list, maybe cavalry tier list now or ranged units tier list
AAAAAAAAA PREFECTURE PIKEMAN ARE SO GOOOOOOD!!!!! I literally use them everywhere hahahaha, once on heilung fjord I got 120 kills with them, but that’s literally they’re best haha they’re so funny 😂
in that case: use landsknechts. they are better in every way!
@@dirkudo1075 I’ll give them a go
@@dirkudo1075 Prefecture have one advantage = they move and charge faster
it starts with a cup of tea....how british of you mr.evo
haha I did feel pretty British with the start XD
@@EvoLozGaming Evo has a hidden channel called the spiffing Brit 😛
Now we need to know where all the grey units end up in your list!
You should take a 2nd look at perfecture pikemen
I don't think black dragon spearmen should be ranked lower than spear militia, they are only 10 leadership more expensive, pretty much all their stats are better, they have more formations (all of which are useful for a spear unit) they have a very decent heal which can heal almost 50% of their max hp when used, they also don't steal xp from other units you want to level and also provide the xp bonus. They are the perfect disposable spear unit in defense, and I have not had a situation where the 10 leadership point difference makes spear militia worth taking over them. Not saying they are good, I'll take black dragon javs over them pretty much every time, but at the very least they should be on par or better than spear militia.
Pike malitia has better formations and stuns units in brace making them far superior though
My bad i dunno why i thought pike malitia, with spears you may have a point, but it's just evos oppinion anyway
Can we get an updated list?
I agree with the OP list (including berserkers) but a lot of the time i feel like i would judge units much harsher.
Green javelins, black dragon pikes & javs (i actually like the spearmen), MAA, and halberdiers would all land in the not worth a barracks slot for me.
Nice!
This are legit tier ranking!
Id put imp spears into B at the very least, you are not supposed to use them alone and they can block range better than stalwarts. And the self heal with LS heal makes them very sustainable. I would used to put rattan pikeman at op since they over preformed for their cost, then got nerfed along with the other pike and is B.
I honestly think Ironcap Swordmen are underrated, their charge is crazy strong for a green unit but I'd only use them if you don't have enough leadership for Condottieri👍
Their carge do more dmg then condo carge actually, if i have epic doctriines for carge reductuion and dmg would put it on them and carge retreat every 5 sec, they could do serious dmg that way
@@SokTeJebo yeah they are pretty insane whit purple doctrine
I read on the subreddit that pike militia can double stun now with the epic doctrine. I do not have spare epic doctrines to try this but it sounds interesting!
Hmm I dont think they can double stun as such but I'll give it a check out
@@EvoLozGaming Thanks for the response! The user Benjito seems to have tested it and looks like it makes no difference =(
Condos at B... Oof shots fired
Maybe a bit harsh on them! They are still a really good unit I just think the meta has moved forwards and condos are still in the same place
@@EvoLozGaming you should try condos vs zerkers at the beginning of a match or when you know they don't have frenzy up. Condos win Everytime, you just need to have shock attack and it's GG
loved the intro
I agree with most of your selection but to me, Pike Militia is still a A and Shieldmaiden are a B and that's mostly because of their leadership cost. You can still get so much out of the PM. They will easily take down more leadership than their own cost. And if it fails, you lose very little, making them quite safe. On the opposite, the SM can do well, but it is easy to lose the leadership trade.
At a low level (around lvl 100) my maxed men at arms SHRED... I think you should consider when they can be usefull!
Useful when you don't have Paladin or Palace Guard
Halberdiers are my best mid game unit. I have no idea how tho, they just preform good for me!
You'll do very well with the Landsknecht, they got more stuff and honestly great but they do die fairly quick
Spear Sgts and Men at Arms, by virtue of OP promotions, require a ranking of "does not deserve a barracks slot". Because there's no situation where you should be using Spear Sgts over Stalwarts or Men at arms over Paladins.
PVE
I really like playing Conquerors Blade and recently I receive heroic era Signaculum box and it contain Palace guards Signaculum
imperial spear guards Signaculum
imperial Javelineers Signaculum
imperial Pike guards Signaculum
imperial archers Signaculum
Prefecture heavy Calvarymans Signaculum
dagger-axe Lancers Signaculum
javelin sergeants Signaculum
Halberdier sergeants Signaculum
Vassal longbowmans Signaculum
imperial arquebusiers Signaculum
yeomans Signaculum
man-at-arms Signaculum
spear sergeants Signaculum
And could you could recommend the best unit of those
Condos need to be in Atier there is a reason everyone puts them In there warbands they are a solid unit all around and definitely worth leadership the amount of charge dmg and shield bash is insane can wipe stalls from the side can kill many high tier units by using there charge effectively
whats palace guard leadership cost in the server you play on ????? for me i play in south america server and its 230.. so i think not worthy since his regular cost is 210?? i would very appreciated for an answer.. and sorry for my bad english,
thanks for your job! it helped me alot when i was beginning and it still helps me to this day!! thanks so much for all the effort!
and PEACE!
evo you gonna watch the euros ?
I love this tierlist, very colorful and well described, can't wait for next tierlist (To see where my OP rattran marksmen end up :V ). Do you take leadership into consideration? (looking at pike militia not being A, ironcap swordsmen in C and meanwhile i can fit them in every game with my measly 726 leadership)
Can we get some more of these?
Hello Evo, is it worth it to use Legendary units because their cost is so high? Or is it better to go with a purple and a few blues instead?
It depends on the unit but yes legendary units can often be worth it, for example you'll find a lot of iron reapers in battles at the moment since they are just so tanky and hard to kill :)
I would love a non video link for quick reference. Live your videos
Such a controversial Topic :D
@@EvoLozGaming I mean my opinion is that the rattan should be atleast c or really low b Cause theey are extremely unique pike unit but i understand its not meant for everyone and does not fit most peoples play style
Ive never seen the shiladars so often but I keep see the reapers more ans more they are much better in 1o1 because they shredd everything with their charge and if you X V X V them then they are A* tier
But if you slighthly miss your charge the silhadars kill the reapres very easy even with half the unit.
@@m.koller7639 have to try it soon xD
@@m.koller7639 i've never competed against siladhars
@@leckteck5694 i think Evo even has a video in which he tested it, but without reaper charge. The silhadars won without much effort but with a perfect charge, however, the reapers win of course
The pike militia rank hurt my heart😔
please, more rank list, units and heros.
Another question: there is a feature in CB that I basically ignore and can't tell if it has any actual effect - unit terrain preference. All the units have a weak to strong ranking for different terrains, but the siege maps don't really tell me what their terrain is (other than urban?) and the unit terrain preferences are not visible from the unit selection screen at the start of a match. Is there any value to these ratings or to paying attention to them? Thanks!
I do not pay much attention to the "terrain preference" but I do pay attention to the map's "weather". Rain in particular affects how units perform. For example, Muskets do not do well in the rain and suffer a penalty.
Can you make cavalry tier list?
Question: If I buy the honor nodes to boost men-at-arms do those bonuses count toward paladins?
Yes. Same for stalwarts, and i supose landsknetchs too(don't have them upgraded bc i dont like them at all), but yeah, it works.
@@Ol_White_Fatalis thanks!
I have one objection on your tier list, Landsknechts deserve to be higher than Condos, because Condos is purely a flank charge unit, you can't charge them head on on spear/shields & pikes because you are gonna waste them, you need to w8 for the right moment & that holds you back, on the other hand Landsknechts rip through shields & delete units & heroes alike with their charge, their potential is much higher than Condos because they can push & break through places that Condos would be absolutely useless, for that reason their rank must be higher as they are obviously the better unit from the two.
Landsknechts and pike Militia totally A in my list. I think with the new palace guard buff, it kinda bring paladin down abit.
I beat paladins with berserkers always, yes unit va unit they lose, but still problem is that paladins are so much easier stoped by hero while berserkers are so faster and can demolish paladins so easy when you pop rage, azaps are strong now cause they beat berserkers hard, palace guards are amazing tho, tankyestinfantry unit tbh
@@SokTeJebo If u bring berserkers to the back of those paladins, those pallys will get wiped in seconds. But i think if 1v1 heads on pallys still have the upperhand.
excellent
Hi man, do you have any tips against berserkers, I just can’t kill them. They can take too much damage, they deal too much damage, they can’t be stunned or knocked down, nothing really works against them.
There is 2 main ways to deal with berzerkers. DPS them down, with Halberds for example as they can do some serious damage with their reach and chage.
Or you endure the damage enough that they get outlasted, with for example Palace Guards who do a bit of both.
Berzerkers get enraged from takin damage and killing units, so they can cut down lower tiers nearly endlessly if the damage isn't too hot. But its possible to use lower tier pike units as well to kill them with the assistance of your hero.
The main vulnerabilities of berzerkers are their low headcount, so if you get lots of enemies to attack few models at the same time they can't distribute the pressure well, and how they can't be controlled while enraged. With Palace Guards, just using their brace skill when they go crazy and waiting it out, then as soon as it ends reactivate it to knock them down.
But yeah, they are difficult to deal with, even more when there is many of them but this is also true for others.
Yeah spear Sargeants have slipped
Berserkers?
This is the only other place I can go to for help at this point. I have a game breaking bug that many other people have had. I try and connect to my server NA East but I just get “Reading Character List” indefinitely. I have used task manager to shutdown the game and it’s launcher and I’ve restarted my pc many times can someone please help
u forgot bersekers, shieldmaidens and son of fenrir
stick around to 20 minute mark he does talk about them just didnt have cards for them.
Javelin sergeant OP+
None of the Viking units?
Woodcutters are op tier
XD
Perfect timing! time to eat and watch 🥗😃
You missed Shieldmaidens!
It's around 20:00
i love rattan roundshield :(
Where are shieldmaidens berserkers and sons, i would put berserkers OP(think theynare berter then paladins atm) shieldmaidens A, sons low A or high B
Also, ain't no way you have prefecture on the same level as condos. I agreed with most of your placements but c'mon man lol
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Wait you talking about zimster? I gave him shit for some of his opinions. Noted, more shit must be given.
Pike militia is op man
They are still a great unit but with the amount of stalwarts and stuff ingame now they have lost a chunk of their effectiveness
hey
BRUHHH pike militia B tierr whatttt
To be honest i don't agree with you, you put in the tseregs in the wrong tier . At least my maxed out tseregs with assassin, breakthrough, Epic charge and blunt damage doctrin are Tier A because most units can't do anything against the blunt damage and get slaughtered. I can slaughter a full unit of azaps with them and also paladins have trouble with them. Thats why they replaced my azaps. Also most heroes get slaugthered when they are standing in their way :D
Beserkers on the other hand are in my opinion pretty useless so I would put them in C. They get slaughtered by my tseregs or even fortebraccios or even pike militia or just archers^^. Beserkers have only a very specific use against sword units but any other unit will kick their asses.
Farmer militia are easy A tier
But palace guard win vs Paladins easy
prefecture guards to D (if you place squires in d ;) ) .. .youre biased about those crap units ;)... even i dont fear them as longbowplayer in a close encounter
spearsgts B .. they still do ok vs cav and ranged
ironcap sw B .. .good leadership worth
bersies......currently the most fun unit to play :) ... .today had a 181 kill run with them :) ... so i might be bersy biased atm
Well come inside my prefecture guard and you will start to fear them :p
How many times a enemy hero disrespect my unit, jump into them and get slapped in less than 1 second pressing cover commander haha
Fully nodded and doctrine they do serious dmg
@@niconilo97 any hero.. overconfident with prefectures.. .got one explosive arrow (not even needed) and a charge from my cheaper condis .. .and then had to attend funerals for days to mourn his prefectures ....so sorry ... that i cannot laugh... ... my arm growns tired of nuking so many prefectures .. before breakfast ;) .. .but lets behonest .. prefectures are fillers nowadays ... not a powerhouse (every filler can kill a player from time to time... .but not withstand enemy units of same level let alone higher level)
Sorry but I am totally disagree .....
Lmfao jav sergeants better cause why? So you can throw more javelins at shield wall formations and do no damage and get destroyed in mele? Lmfao this guy ranks them based on how many throws you can get off, not how well the unit performs. Literally you know nothing of the game anymore 😂🤣
Well they do actually get block break, but stillwhy would you throw javs at a shield wall? Or use them in melee for that matter XD
@@EvoLozGaming you don’t understand the point lol. Every unit in ranked will have a shield wall if not high p defense as well as other formations rendering the throw javelin useless in most situations 90% of the time. Unless you want to clip ai battles to make it seem like you know what your doing or that people bring trash to siege, where the extra throws might actually be useful. But realistically that’s not how things go down in higher Elo matches. And I’ll take a unit with decent mele then trash mele anyday and I can still argue to safe my “3” for hero snipes whilst having a tanky and more mele competent unit. Take the loss lol you just like the extra throws.
@@EvoLozGaming also fat XD for me having to explain that rather than you picking up what I was insinuating lmaoooo
since the game has included the stamina bar. ITS DEAD ALREADY. and also
look at what the devs did to the long bow class.....this game is
finished/ DEAD