I really enjoy anything that tony robinson presents. I hope his documentaries stand the test of time so that many generations to come can learn from and enjoy them as much as I have.
Ohhhh, my. I can think of only one other episode that make me cry more. Even before the babies, they was something about this one that really made me feel in touch with the people. Not sure why this one more than others. 💗🕯
I love this episode, always fun to see what odd hat or bright sweater Mick Aston or Phil Harding will wear on site. Love it when Alex Langlan appears, l watched all the shows he did with Ruth & his handsome partner Peter! Baldrick's always funny too. But l really love Phil Harding's sensitivity to his surroundings & just what he is digging up. Telling the lady Reverend the most special spot to respectfully rebury the bones, babies especially, that was so classy & sensitive, very sweet Phil! 👍☺️💖🌈🇨🇦☘️
30:31 “And then they never really got a go. That’s the trouble.” 🥺🥺🥺 Hit me right smack dab in the feels. What a wonderful show to evoke such genuine emotion.
Alex! Having recently rewatched all of the historic farm series, I am SO GLAD to have found this. I needed something smart and positive to get me through 2020. Love from the USA.
@@cpmondello Ancient aliens and that sword making show are not right wing propaganda lmao. If it was right wing propaganda it would be non stop docs on the evils are communism
What a beautiful episode. As someone with no religious belief system, I still admire and respect the faith of Reverend Jane. I'm so pleased that the Team found this chapel for her.
I enjoy the banter & comradery, along with the fact they can agree to disagree & still have a good laugh whilst doing it! Oh, and the history & archeology is amazing too!
@@L0j1k I believe he will be a part of it but not as much as he was in the original. He's older now and he has said he can't do the work he used to do.
This kept reminding me of the great book by Stephen Lawhead called Byzantium about a young Irish monk who works as a calligrapher and is captured as a slave during a Viking raid. It's a thrilling historical fiction book but I had no idea how much real history it contained. I highly recommend it. LL
I think the most likely explanation for the babies is that they were born irregularly or through means that made them unacceptable to be buried in a churchyard. If they were secret babies, for instance, if they passed, they'd need to be buried somewhere quietly and where fewer questions would be asked. It's tragic, but history has many tales to tell that wring our hearts.
The most likely case is that they were stillborn. This would leave them in-baptised and therefore intelligible for burial in consecrated ground. This would be the only 'holy' alternative. It's fairly common before the Reformation
I've watched a few of these now. I'm really enjoying them. I do wonder if the 3-day limit ... well limits what the team could have discovered. A limited time period works for a TV schedule, which is probably why they did it, I suppose.
Fun fact, before Victorian times when sugar was becoming more popular and in everything from Toothpaste to decorative plates, teeth were in excellent condition 😂
Mary Ann making sand castles pretty much sums up her contributions to the show. And this is her first appearance, so its not like she started out strong and got minimized...
A cynic might assume she was someone's girlfriend, and that that someone got her a place on a TV show. But whatever the reason for her being there, she is both annoying and superfluous
In a strange way I think it is possible that the walls built during the war may help to prevent the ruins of the chapel crumbling into the sea. I hope the community there will somehow corden the area off so that the ruins and the skeletons are not further damaged. It is not an area which is vital for farming or any other industry and is also ecologically sensitive because of its exposure to the elements. Being a woman makes me sad and sensitive to the baby burials. Once again a great dig and great coverage. Thanks guys and gals.
GREAT to see Alex Langlands show up as part of the Time Texas am. This fast past, fun, informative historical doc is just his type of thing. And mine too. High-quality upload which is highly entertaining. LL
Most of the members of time team are trying to restart the show independently on TH-cam on the time team TH-cam channel, they also have a patreon now for fans that want to support the show financially
I feel like if we still had good old Robin Bush (instead of this Marianne) we would have a breakdown of the entire history of the village, down the saint Ebbe's shoe size.
Factoid some of you time team fans might note as well as I did. I verified with the 2021 original time team group on patreon that timeline does have authority to broadcast the time Team series. However they must not have gotten the rights to the music. Has anyone else noticed in this episode that the music is not similar to the music on all of the other episodes created in the 90s and early 2000s. I like the old music better :-) so Grand
What a hoot, @ 4:57, Vicar, has a few bones in a jelly jar. I know because I buy the exact brand! Bonne Maman, made in France. It is excellent. And speaking of history, go search what that company did for good during WW2! Lady. I love this series. Carolina, USA
Sometimes when I watch Time Team, I get the evil urge to bury a bunch of odd things together to troll future archeologists. Like a bunch of animal bones together with a lot of empty make up bottles.😂
To me it wouldn't be strange to find extremely old signs of habitation. I suppose it was part of Doggerland once, so chances are that Humans have been there long long ago.
OMGOSH!! That is a fruit preserves jar that the reverend had with bones in it! I eat the Strawberry preserves. It’s Bonne Maman and is a product of France! Great jars too! On another note, interesting documentary!
@@ashleybogdanowicz5438 - I know, aren’t they great jars!!!!! They are small yet quite sturdy I have to say and the preserves that come out of them are most excellent!! 😁😆😁😆 It’s very difficult for me to throw away any glass jar because I deal with herbals. I use them for storing the herbs but for other items as well. If I get a jar that I can’t clean the lid or for some reason retains an odor, I wait till I have enough to place an order with my jar supplier and order a bunch of lids.
@@SpellCaster17 I don't see in stores here in Canada that we have those kinds of jars. We get Bonne Maman here, but in regular glass jars like any other jam. Even the Canadian Bonne Maman website only shows glass jars. I'd love to find the kind like in the show.
@@lokicooper4690 - Oh wow! I’ve only seen the Bonne Maman preserves in that kind of glass jar. It’s a hexagon jar with a red and white checkered pattern lug lid.
I wonder if Alex was in the midst of filming the Edwardian farm episodes and was still in that clothing mode or if he just dresses like that all the time. Lol
I call this "Traditional or Standard" and it remains a constant in style, a most common dress in the South, and Northeast, USA. It is also common among the higher Socioeconomic Level aka "the Elite". I like it and most often can be found wearing the Standard/Traditional/Conservative clothes. Not to be confused with my Moderate Liberal Political View.
Great choice for a change of location. Your move to another area cuts down on the echo TREMENDOUSLY :) :). You're audience is able to hear you so much better without the distraction of the background echo. Just 1 suggestion though. You might want to think about putting your camera or computer up on a thin book or some other prop device to slightly elevate your camera. You look like you are uncomfortably hunched over a desk.
I really love these episodes, but something that I've noticed is they often pose the women as the "viewer surrogate" in the on camera discussions that are for the benefit of the viewer. (The people involved already know the information being shared.) Usually they have guys as part of the discussion, but they almost always pose women as the ones needing fairly simple (to those involved) aspects of the dig explained to them (as the audience likely does). While Tim is involved discussing things with the experts, the scenes with women are often them having things explained to them by other experts. I don't think this was being done on purpose or with malice AT ALL. We need audience surrogates on shows like this because we don't know what they know. It's just something I've noticed watching these episodes over and over for a year. haha. Again, I love this show and I don't think these things were done with intention. All the people involved are highly skilled individuals but they don't all know each other's specialties as well. I also understand there are varying levels of seniority going on. This is just an observation I've had and perhaps is some optics they can keep in mind for the upcoming reboot.
Nope, he's just usually pretty good at keeping it on. This wind got the better of him though. I've always said he should have those little straps to tie under his chin for days when it's really windy. This was a humourous way to do it.
Super cool episode, as usual. But I was surprised the skeletons were 16th to 19th century. I figured they would be older. Also - so rude of Tony to start talking over top of the lady reverend while she was speaking over the bones. He could have walked farther away before starting to talk, so her words wouldn't be disturbed.
2.07 min into the episode; Phil Hardings hat is already soaked in sweat.....3.50 and until this very day, Phil's hat is still missing somewhere in Scotland.....;)
@@bethbartlett5692 yep it's Mary Ann, from when the C4 decided changing Mick A for a younger and sexier model with charisma like a cheese grater and apparently surprisingly little knowledge (considering her degree) would work. It was this and the dumbing down of the show that finally killed it.
I personally have no problem with keeping a workplace safe...Actually, I insist on safety. At the end of the day, everyone should return home in one uninjured piece. I've seen too many people take TOTALLY UNNECESSARY risks, the thought leaps to mind "what are these people thinking?" If this was a murder, the "perp" has been dead for over a thousand years.
When I was very young, I was interested in old documents. I had a book printed in the 1800s that was very tiny, I had a folder with reproductions of all the most important documents relative to the U.S. printed on parchment. My mother stole them all. I never understood what she thought gave her the right. This is a personal bias, but people wearing priestly garb INSTANTLY sparks mistrust. They're playing a role at the expense of others. It SCREAMS I'm holier than though.
I really enjoy anything that tony robinson presents. I hope his documentaries stand the test of time so that many generations to come can learn from and enjoy them as much as I have.
This show never disappoints me. Every moment is amazing
Shout out to the ribbon holding down the most valuable relic to come from this show- Phil’s hat.
Seeing how sweaty it gets every episode you could probably trace back Phil's life by digging through the layers of stuck grime.
I just assumed it was permanently attached. =)
I loved Phil. Mad hatter
Ohhhh, my. I can think of only one other episode that make me cry more. Even before the babies, they was something about this one that really made me feel in touch with the people. Not sure why this one more than others. 💗🕯
I love this episode, always fun to see what odd hat or bright sweater Mick Aston or Phil Harding will wear on site. Love it when Alex Langlan appears, l watched all the shows he did with Ruth & his handsome partner Peter! Baldrick's always funny too. But l really love Phil Harding's sensitivity to his surroundings & just what he is digging up. Telling the lady Reverend the most special spot to respectfully rebury the bones, babies especially, that was so classy & sensitive, very sweet Phil! 👍☺️💖🌈🇨🇦☘️
Alex, Ruth and Peter are such a joy. I am happy I am not the only one geeking out about them. And yes, I also find Peter to be very handsome :)
30:31
“And then they never really got a go. That’s the trouble.”
🥺🥺🥺
Hit me right smack dab in the feels.
What a wonderful show to evoke such genuine emotion.
Yep. That’s the line that makes this my favorite episode of all. The innocent little ones.
Twenty years is a long time.
Alex! Having recently rewatched all of the historic farm series, I am SO GLAD to have found this. I needed something smart and positive to get me through 2020. Love from the USA.
I remember when the History Channel had programs like this.
Why not anymore
People don’t care about history they want to watch truckers driving on ice and people smuggling vegetables across the border
Much like TLC was once actually a “learning channel.”
@@cpmondello you sound completely ridiculous. Has to be about politics doesn't it.
The are only out to make money, that's commercialism
@@cpmondello Ancient aliens and that sword making show are not right wing propaganda lmao. If it was right wing propaganda it would be non stop docs on the evils are communism
I ADORE Tony Robinson! There's no one quite like him.💕😊🇳🇿
What a beautiful episode. As someone with no religious belief system, I still admire and respect the faith of Reverend Jane. I'm so pleased that the Team found this chapel for her.
I enjoy the banter & comradery, along with the fact they can agree to disagree & still have a good laugh whilst doing it! Oh, and the history & archeology is amazing too!
This is an area of England that is dear to my heart. So lovely to see this dig done.
The bickering old fellas so wholesome 😂🤘
One is a misfits fan. Lol, expect no less.
@@warhammer1 amen lol
Yankee here.. I love brits history and tv... BRAVO.. BRILLIANT...
“The burials are like buses, you wait for ages and three show up!” I can relate to the buses part, LOL!
Bring Back the old team, Helen, Stewart, , ,
This show's been gone for almost a decade...
@@ellen4956 But where's Phil?
@@L0j1k I believe he will be a part of it but not as much as he was in the original. He's older now and he has said he can't do the work he used to do.
I like the way the bones from community picking up thru years were put back and with prayer...
I agree, although I thought it was disrespectful when Tony? said the last bit during the prayer.
@@Kitty-tc3oh but then he did to go and remember the babies and I felt like that connected them back in with the other reinternments.
@@Kitty-tc3oh Yes i agree on that part, it would have been better if he had waited untill the prayer was finished
Strange to see Alex at a bonified dig rather than herding cattle and ordering Peter around. Go Alex!
Great From The Lady Feeling Empathy For The Stillborn Baby's Not Having A Life. To Phill Suggesting Where The Bones Could Be Re Buried. Top Team.
You make the weather so enjoyable to watch and listen to. I’m glad for warmer weather this winter.
This kept reminding me of the great book by Stephen Lawhead called Byzantium about a young Irish monk who works as a calligrapher and is captured as a slave during a Viking raid. It's a thrilling historical fiction book but I had no idea how much real history it contained. I highly recommend it. LL
I read it so long ago that mostly I remembered enjoying it, and forgot the plot.
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That sounds really good, I'll look it up.
Sounds like the plot from Vikings.
Trust the vicar to keep a jar of *human* *bones* within arm's reach just in case an archaeologist should ever come wondering into the church (4:54)...
A jam jar too. Lol
Nanci G great for jams, drinks and human bone containing.
All these are fine and good, but what about that blue flip flop?!
The blue flip flop is too sacred to be mentioned on television. 😁
I think the most likely explanation for the babies is that they were born irregularly or through means that made them unacceptable to be buried in a churchyard. If they were secret babies, for instance, if they passed, they'd need to be buried somewhere quietly and where fewer questions would be asked. It's tragic, but history has many tales to tell that wring our hearts.
Absolutely, the grief of these little skeletons is probably a mix of babies who did not survive but more likely many who were not born in wedlock.
The most likely case is that they were stillborn. This would leave them in-baptised and therefore intelligible for burial in consecrated ground. This would be the only 'holy' alternative. It's fairly common before the Reformation
I enjoyed how Jane acted like she didn't know that she was there to interview her. Haha
😃Me, too! She’s an amazing actress! Very sweet.
Mick's sweater makes me happy!
I don't know who I am, I don’t know why I'm here, All I know is that I must watch every Time Team episode ever made.
Strap in
I've watched a few of these now. I'm really enjoying them. I do wonder if the 3-day limit ... well limits what the team could have discovered. A limited time period works for a TV schedule, which is probably why they did it, I suppose.
Most of the people had actual day jobs (working at Universities, etc), so this was something they did over long weekends.
The skull find at 20:36 has very nice teeth. Just thought Id mention that.
Fun fact, before Victorian times when sugar was becoming more popular and in everything from Toothpaste to decorative plates, teeth were in excellent condition 😂
Oh, the priceless look on Mick’s face when Tony tries the hat diversion. It’s so much fun!
Right about 10:07
Positively delicious, that. Had to watch it over a good batch of times as it was so fun!
I bingewatched Alex Langlands historical experiments and now he shows up on time team. cant believe my eyes
Mary Ann making sand castles pretty much sums up her contributions to the show. And this is her first appearance, so its not like she started out strong and got minimized...
I have seen her in other documentaries and she is ok in them. I think it's a question of her not fitting in properly here with the Time Team.
She looks good, though, no doubt about that!
@@ilanamillion8942 She was the reason why Mick left. And I like her too.
@@earlofsmeg why is she there and what does that have to do with Mick leaving?
A cynic might assume she was someone's girlfriend, and that that someone got her a place on a TV show. But whatever the reason for her being there, she is both annoying and superfluous
Oh the babies! My heart cries😞❤️
I enjoy your videos so much! Thanks for making them!
I love Mick's old colorful sweater
There is just no way of getting rid of the visual of Phil in cut off shorts! 🤣 🤷🏼♀️
The 60s called and want them back. =)
6:09 you can see some Harry Potter books resting on the window sill to the right :)
Had to go and look at that. Did not see them the first time at all. Well, spotted!
Not really compatible with God eh
In a strange way I think it is possible that the walls built during the war may help to prevent the ruins of the chapel crumbling into the sea. I hope the community there will somehow corden the area off so that the ruins and the skeletons are not further damaged. It is not an area which is vital for farming or any other industry and is also ecologically sensitive because of its exposure to the elements. Being a woman makes me sad and sensitive to the baby burials. Once again a great dig and great coverage. Thanks guys and gals.
Stunningly beautiful calligraphy recreations
I just love all these guys! And Tony is so funny😂😂. A Fascinating site.
Thank u so much for the fresh video... this is ehat Stay Home means to me 🤭🤭
infant mortality must have been incredibly high. loss of the mother also.
GREAT to see Alex Langlands show up as part of the Time Texas am. This fast past, fun, informative historical doc is just his type of thing. And mine too. High-quality upload which is highly entertaining. LL
Wonderful series, and these guys are a hoot!
One of the - if not THE - best history series ever, in my opinion: entertaining, engaging and informative.
Is it just me, or does the stained glass image of St. Ebbe look just like Caranza Lewis?
Most of the members of time team are trying to restart the show independently on TH-cam on the time team TH-cam channel, they also have a patreon now for fans that want to support the show financially
I feel like if we still had good old Robin Bush (instead of this Marianne) we would have a breakdown of the entire history of the village, down the saint Ebbe's shoe size.
This host cracks me up laughing every time, hes great, funny & while teaching us too, its terrific
Factoid some of you time team fans might note as well as I did. I verified with the 2021 original time team group on patreon that timeline does have authority to broadcast the time Team series. However they must not have gotten the rights to the music. Has anyone else noticed in this episode that the music is not similar to the music on all of the other episodes created in the 90s and early 2000s. I like the old music better :-) so Grand
What a hoot, @ 4:57, Vicar, has a few bones in a jelly jar. I know because I buy the exact brand! Bonne Maman, made in France. It is excellent. And speaking of history, go search what that company did for good during WW2!
Lady. I love this series.
Carolina, USA
I'm not a religious person but I really appreciate the respect you all payed to the bones of the people found there!
with or without a god, they were still people.
Lovely scarf holding Phil’s hat on!
They really did put a string to keep his hat on lmfaoooo
"Mick's doing something very important: pondering."
#pondermore
Sometimes when I watch Time Team, I get the evil urge to bury a bunch of odd things together to troll future archeologists. Like a bunch of animal bones together with a lot of empty make up bottles.😂
Thanks so much for posting.
To me it wouldn't be strange to find extremely old signs of habitation. I suppose it was part of Doggerland once, so chances are that Humans have been there long long ago.
OMGOSH!! That is a fruit preserves jar that the reverend had with bones in it! I eat the Strawberry preserves. It’s Bonne Maman and is a product of France! Great jars too!
On another note, interesting documentary!
I use bonne maman jars for everything 😂 was hoping someone else would notice!
@@ashleybogdanowicz5438 - I know, aren’t they great jars!!!!! They are small yet quite sturdy I have to say and the preserves that come out of them are most excellent!! 😁😆😁😆
It’s very difficult for me to throw away any glass jar because I deal with herbals. I use them for storing the herbs but for other items as well. If I get a jar that I can’t clean the lid or for some reason retains an odor, I wait till I have enough to place an order with my jar supplier and order a bunch of lids.
@@SpellCaster17 I don't see in stores here in Canada that we have those kinds of jars. We get Bonne Maman here, but in regular glass jars like any other jam. Even the Canadian Bonne Maman website only shows glass jars. I'd love to find the kind like in the show.
@@lokicooper4690 - Oh wow! I’ve only seen the Bonne Maman preserves in that kind of glass jar. It’s a hexagon jar with a red and white checkered pattern lug lid.
Awesome upload as always. Cheers Time team.
I wonder if Alex was in the midst of filming the Edwardian farm episodes and was still in that clothing mode or if he just dresses like that all the time. Lol
I mean, that's how I dress. If it was good enough for my father, and his father before him, it's good enough for me.
You see him in other Time Team videos, that’s just how he dresses lol
it's a good look isn't it?
I call this "Traditional or Standard" and it remains a constant in style, a most common dress in the South, and Northeast, USA. It is also common among the higher Socioeconomic Level aka "the Elite".
I like it and most often can be found wearing the Standard/Traditional/Conservative clothes.
Not to be confused with my Moderate Liberal Political View.
Great choice for a change of location. Your move to another area cuts down on the echo TREMENDOUSLY :) :).
You're audience is able to hear you so much better without the distraction of the background echo. Just 1 suggestion though. You might want to think about putting your camera or computer up on a thin book or some other prop device to slightly elevate your camera. You look like you are uncomfortably hunched over a desk.
I really love these episodes, but something that I've noticed is they often pose the women as the "viewer surrogate" in the on camera discussions that are for the benefit of the viewer. (The people involved already know the information being shared.) Usually they have guys as part of the discussion, but they almost always pose women as the ones needing fairly simple (to those involved) aspects of the dig explained to them (as the audience likely does). While Tim is involved discussing things with the experts, the scenes with women are often them having things explained to them by other experts.
I don't think this was being done on purpose or with malice AT ALL. We need audience surrogates on shows like this because we don't know what they know. It's just something I've noticed watching these episodes over and over for a year. haha. Again, I love this show and I don't think these things were done with intention. All the people involved are highly skilled individuals but they don't all know each other's specialties as well. I also understand there are varying levels of seniority going on. This is just an observation I've had and perhaps is some optics they can keep in mind for the upcoming reboot.
Always wondered if Phil's hat was stapled on...now I know!
Nope, he's just usually pretty good at keeping it on. This wind got the better of him though. I've always said he should have those little straps to tie under his chin for days when it's really windy. This was a humourous way to do it.
If I had a dollar for every time geophys complained 😂
Super cool episode, as usual. But I was surprised the skeletons were 16th to 19th century. I figured they would be older. Also - so rude of Tony to start talking over top of the lady reverend while she was speaking over the bones. He could have walked farther away before starting to talk, so her words wouldn't be disturbed.
Yeah we've heard about the new history hit tv. Because you keep bothering every video with a promo I will not check it out
This was an excellent episode!
Oh wow St Aebb was king Oswalds sister Very cool
2.07 min into the episode; Phil Hardings hat is already soaked in sweat.....3.50 and until this very day, Phil's hat is still missing somewhere in Scotland.....;)
Love this show!
With all of your digs,do you back fill everything, or leave some open. Blessings from 🇨🇦.Awesome channel, i be a history nut.😎👍
From Arizona USA, very interesting great work team.
the end is so wholesome
Where are Helen, Stuart, Francis, Victor and Carenza ?
Awww, baby Alex!
Love all of time team.
Hey, it's Alex Langlands! 😃
I love love LOVE this show. But every time I see Mary Ann I think it's so sad that she was not given a real chance. And then the show was over. 😓
What happened to Mary Ann?
@@Mochii.moshiiii I guess she was part of change being pushed by the network. Mick didn't like it. (Her?) Mary Ann quit. It was very sad.
I miss Mick.
the chemistry between Mick and Phil and Tony..
its like the chemistry between those other three famous brits. irreplaceable.
Thank you.
i love this show so much
I love this show!!!!
Best show ever.
12:20 that's ur best outfit out of all the episode I've seen, T0ny
Anyone else see the coin in with the dirt at 5:31 right before the next shovel of dirt is dumped
Detectorists go over all of the dirt. If it was a coin, it would have been found!
@@L0j1k it looked like a us penny
Hope the pub didn't take Tony's glass back 😆
You guys tracked as close as you could to Monty Python❤
Who else saw Alex and was happy for 5 seconds until you realised MA was involved in this one, the start of the dumbing down and the end of the show.
Is MA Mary Ann and if so, I just made a comment who was she and why was she added? (politics of Production is my initial possibility)
@@bethbartlett5692 yep it's Mary Ann, from when the C4 decided changing Mick A for a younger and sexier model with charisma like a cheese grater and apparently surprisingly little knowledge (considering her degree) would work. It was this and the dumbing down of the show that finally killed it.
I personally have no problem with keeping a workplace safe...Actually, I insist on safety. At the end of the day, everyone should return home in one uninjured piece.
I've seen too many people take TOTALLY UNNECESSARY risks, the thought leaps to mind "what are these people thinking?"
If this was a murder, the "perp" has been dead for over a thousand years.
First aired February 19, 2012.
Turns out Jackie planted the body 6 years previously and was sentenced to life in prison...
He had a cunning plan
When the focus of the show is nefarious things they are called Catholics but when good things are discussed, they are called Christians.
I wish history channel had this stuff, I haven't watched it in like 10 years. It started with ancient aliens and went downhill from there.
When I was very young, I was interested in old documents. I had a book printed in the 1800s that was very tiny, I had a folder with reproductions of all the most important documents relative to the U.S. printed on parchment. My mother stole them all. I never understood what she thought gave her the right.
This is a personal bias, but people wearing priestly garb INSTANTLY sparks mistrust. They're playing a role at the expense of others. It SCREAMS I'm holier than though.
Bickering is ok, just as long as you don't sock each other in the nose ! 😂😂😂🍺👍
Was here October 2020
how often DID Phil's hat fall off? at least he caught it all the time ans every time. he still had it at the end of the episode?
Needs Velcro on the 'chrome' and on the hat! - Just kidding the man we all respect !
19:07 ...I'm shocked
40:40 it is a decent effort