Just picked up an NP2 today. Only had chance to empty a couple of magazines but so far, out of the box I'm hitting a target about the size of a 50p straight out of the box, stood up, can't argue with that before any time spent to zero the scope
I don't know why, but I've always found that I need a longer pull-length on rifles with drop-down pistol grips than conventional stocks. And the left hand cocking lever may be a good thing too, easier to get a second shot off without the trigger hand moving position.
Hi Guys another cracking show, informative with great humour, long may they continue. I have just got one of the NP-02 and shooting from the bench the length of pull doesn't seem to be an issue ragged hole 12 shot group at 20m. J3 and G8
Forget the Kral NP 02 and the Stoeger XP4. This was another GREAT and entertaining Hot Air video. Please, Please produce these programmes more regularly. The entertainment value is beyond measure!
Lloyd sold me one a few days ago and after looking at some video reviews on the gun I began to wonder just how accurate it was going to be.......I sighted it in with a moderately priced scope and then fired three 12 shot groups at 20 meters using my cars bonnet as a rest, nothing fancy...........the three groups each measured about the size of a sixpence..........no flyers and certainly no loading problems........the gun is going to replace a very old and reliable BSA for Vermin Control and I have no worries that it might not be up to the job........maybe a bit heavy ........it seems to be just about perfect and the LEFT hand cocking is great.........for a working gun .......unbeatable at the price...........when I have fired a couple of thousand shots I will update on the situation......that should be late January -21.......so far it seems very impressive though😊
Have got one of these (NP-02) and for the money it’s great value . I also have an impact so can see both ends of the current air rifle market. I’ve put an MTC connect on mine and removed the rear cover and replaced it with a Gunpower skeleton bottle stock which reduces the pull slightly. It produces more than acceptable groups at 50m with JSB Exact diablos . Happy with the review - but I think you’d have more info/ better opinion if you had shot them first 👍🏻.
Shot a mates brand new one from the shop today 5p size group at 40 yards on my first (and only) 10 shots, trigger a tadge heavy and needs adjustment, but very impressed, great review BTW
J5 / L7 for me gents, another very interesting / cool / honest video. Very glad you're speeding up the uploads (well done Andrea), that reminds me to send you my pics tomorrow to accompany our filming last Monday, (thank-you all again). Cheers. Russ
Ascetics may be an issue, of course, however functionally it seems so obvious to put that giant bottle at the rear instead of hanging off the front. What are the downsides? Does the throw off the balance given the bottles are probably lighter than an equivalent sized piece of wood? I read that on the Airforce guns which use a similar bottle at the rear design, you have problems getting a good check weld. On the Np-02, the front cylinder just seems like left-over from another gun design.
Curious to know how the NP-02 performs from a non southpaw? For the money it looks an interesting rifle but I guess it needs to be shouldered to make sure LOP is right but that left hand cocking lever is my main concern for staying on target and reloading. Good video though really enjoy them and competition guess is P19 & P20
Would a cleaning pellet in one barrel enable you to chrono it accurately (at a distance the cleaning pellet wouldn’t reach). I suggest this not knowing anything about chrono’s or cleaning pellet distances.
@@hotair4269 do you remember the old enfields in the 80s/90s that were converted to shoot pellets from a pre charged cartridge (brocock i think) what happened with them someone told me they got banned
@@blackpoolairrifles9311 oh right i thought it was maybe because those cartridges looked quite realistic they were banned with a new law on replica guns
I forget how short the barrel on this thing is without the suppressor, my dad got it second hand with a 3-10x scope, suppressor, flashlight and folding bipod for about £350, which is a good price for the gun on its own without the extra stuff
Try shooting it into a thick book compared to another gun of the same caliber that you know is shooting at 11 ft lbs and see how many pages in penetrates we used old copies of the yellow pages before chronographs were freely available.
Another great show with honest reviews, please don’t lose that honestly. Message for Lloyd, is it time to lose the hat?? I think Tony is out shining you in the dress stakes. Woolly hats in the summer don’t really work. Come on my friend give it a go without, you can do it, you can do it!!
I have to say.....Tony does look like the 'professional' ....with Lloyd looking like a very eager and I must say......knowledgeable 'apprentice'...........they make a good and contrasting duo.........well worth watching
Bought a np-02 a few days ago and it fits back in the case with a 3-9x50 scope, an Atec wave moderator, and still plenty of room to spare for accessories. Edit: I didn't get the glossy instructions manual I got a black and white photocopy in an envelope.
If the length from the butt to the the pistol grip is the only thing you can find fault with , then I think Kral have made a nice rifle and found a place in the market for it. I’ve just bought one for my 14 year old Son and he has no problem handling it, perhaps the snobs who think you need to £2000 on a rifle to look good down the range and still couldn’t hit a pigs arse with a banjo need to take a look at themselves. It doesn’t claim to be an FX or Daystate , it’s £350
Only came up with this: www.riflezone.com/beeman-rs1-dual-caliber-air-rifle-review/ www.amazon.com/Beeman-Dual-Caliber-Rifle-Combo-rifle/dp/B0010DV5Q4/ref=as_at?creativeASIN=B0010DV5Q4&linkCode=w61&imprToken=6PuVmjS9MZAO0tS5U2YQsw&slotNum=1&tag=a-r-20 What the the full name of this gun (14:10)?
Guys i bought the kral NP02 after watching your video. And what a cracking little rifle, pellet on pellet accurate. Its bloody amazing. Now im kral fan and im thinking of buying an other kral. So im in love with kral puncher pro but been told jumbo might be better. Any chance you guys can do review on kral pro and kral jumbo. Really hoping you say pro is amazing as lovely in shoulder. Really interested what like at on 40 metres plus to . Thank You Andy from ellesmere port
Hi Andy. Glad you like the Np-02. We will be looking at more Krals but with new stuff we are going to wait till we get the range in October, then we can test them properly . The Puncher has been excellent , the Jumbo is also a great value gun with excellent performance and plenty of shots :)
Ooh cheers Tony, can’t wait 😀 you two guys are brill together, love all these videos! Reason I ask is because I’m trying to decide between an AirArms 410 TDR and the new 510 TDR.. then remembered the Leishy lol
We have had a look at it for the next episode , but we really really want to get out in the field with it and test it properly . That will come soon but for now you will just have to put up with us fondling it :)
@Chris Landry let me explain again and i will use smaller words my original question was not in fact a question , it was sarcasm , i know full well how you chrony a shotgun since i have been a gunsmith since i qualified as one in the REME over 31 years ago and have worked as one since. there now do you get it ?
John Gratton A chrony measures muzzle energy by measuring the velocity of a weight, I was talking about an “impact force” measuring device, a kind of pressure sensitive pad you might say, something that could take an impact reading from both barrels independently at the same time, thus working out the actual power output of each barrel & the pair combined. I’m sorry If i miss worded my query & sent you off track as to what I meant.
Yes, it’s called a ballistic pendulum, it was what was used before the electronic chronograph was invented. And no we don’t have one or any idea of anyone who might, but I suspect it probably wouldn’t work on such low energies anyway.
TONY BELAS thanks for the reply to what I thought was a valid question, with an educated response. I also think you guys should make more videos, I check everyday to get my air gun fix. P.s. are Stearling in some sort of trouble? Or just stuck up? I Emailed them to try to get info on there H18, because I want one (in December) & no one will tell me how to get one of the most beautiful rifles I have ever seen? Thank you again for the contact Tony All the best Adz.
3 and 1 at 20 past on the clock, love the pcp love the price just wish i had the cash...i hope it cant be fired with the bottle off ..the last rifle looks a bit of fun but i use enough pellets without doing 2 at once :)
Good morning from the State's and good show again the Kral in the State's has a 50/50 reliability , air leak's cocking lever breaking and many other problems. I do like the way they look but reliability is what keeps me away . Thank's
Seems we are a little luckier in the UK . The older Krals have been poor but the latest stuff is getting better , and I do know our Uk importer checks the guns now , although they need to make sure everything works including the magazines !
You could but it is a single piston venting into two barrels so if you only loaded one the one barrel, the other would allow too much air out effecting the power
You know something ? That rifle brings back memories of years past , too many years , memories that have haunted me for the best part of 44 years , why I hear you ask , well it was girl I once knew , she was drop dead gorgeous ( ok we were both around 14 yrs old ) I longed too ask her out , take her too the flicks ( picture house too you young kids ) buy her fish and chips , walk hand in hand along the canal towpath , kiss her gently good night as id see her too her door in safety , but NO it didn't happen , my dreams were shattered by fear of what my so called " mates " would say , you see , this diamond of a lass had a plastic leg , cut off just below the knee , don't know why or whatever the reason for this but too me it didn't matter , it's just what my mates would say that put off asking her out ... I was a fool .. it wouldn't happen now for sure , that episode in my life made me the man I am now ... Anyway this gun and it's " qwerkie " bottle for a stock reminds me of this girl and her plastic leg .. if I didn't have ( and just bought the new brocock bantam sniper hr ) so may rifles , I'd buy this ... No questions asked ... It would remind me of her , and vanquish a ghost that as haunted me for years ... Anyway can I have 2 goes at the quiz?
A guy had one at side of me at the range and it was unbearably loud. I had to move to the other end and it was still off putting. Really you need ear plugs to shoot near them.
This is so funny. The elderly gentleman has a great sense of humor. The younger fella is a realist. Great show
Just picked up an NP2 today. Only had chance to empty a couple of magazines but so far, out of the box I'm hitting a target about the size of a 50p straight out of the box, stood up, can't argue with that before any time spent to zero the scope
Yet another honest review. Good to know any failings noted prior to making any decisions 👍
I don't know why, but I've always found that I need a longer pull-length on rifles with drop-down pistol grips than conventional stocks. And the left hand cocking lever may be a good thing too, easier to get a second shot off without the trigger hand moving position.
Hi Guys another cracking show, informative with great humour, long may they continue. I have just got one of the NP-02 and shooting from the bench the length of pull doesn't seem to be an issue ragged hole 12 shot group at 20m. J3 and G8
i am 5/10 and have no problems with the reach i have fitted a good moderator and it is very quiet and over 20 yards spot on using jsb extra.
Great review. Just got one in. 22
good review i am picking up my np02 on Tuesday cant wait getting the 1.77. version.
How is it?
Can the butt be detached for ease of transport
Forget the Kral NP 02 and the Stoeger XP4. This was another GREAT and entertaining Hot Air video. Please, Please produce these programmes more regularly. The entertainment value is beyond measure!
Hi ian, we are in a flow now so you will be getting your wish! 😀
Thank you very much Tony.
another great video ,thanks guys,
Thanks, i hope you win
Lloyd sold me one a few days ago and after looking at some video reviews on the gun I began to wonder just how accurate it was going to be.......I sighted it in with a moderately priced scope and then fired three 12 shot groups at 20 meters using my cars bonnet as a rest, nothing fancy...........the three groups each measured about the size of a sixpence..........no flyers and certainly no loading problems........the gun is going to replace a very old and reliable BSA for Vermin Control and I have no worries that it might not be up to the job........maybe a bit heavy ........it seems to be just about perfect and the LEFT hand cocking is great.........for a working gun .......unbeatable at the price...........when I have fired a couple of thousand shots I will update on the situation......that should be late January -21.......so far it seems very impressive though😊
Have got one of these (NP-02) and for the money it’s great value . I also have an impact so can see both ends of the current air rifle market. I’ve put an MTC connect on mine and removed the rear cover and replaced it with a Gunpower skeleton bottle stock which reduces the pull slightly. It produces more than acceptable groups at 50m with JSB Exact diablos . Happy with the review - but I think you’d have more info/ better opinion if you had shot them first 👍🏻.
Shot a mates brand new one from the shop today 5p size group at 40 yards on my first (and only) 10 shots, trigger a tadge heavy and needs adjustment, but very impressed, great review BTW
J5 / L7 for me gents, another very interesting / cool / honest video.
Very glad you're speeding up the uploads (well done Andrea), that reminds me to send you my pics tomorrow to accompany our filming last Monday, (thank-you all again).
Cheers. Russ
Just bought this kral and was only £349 from Tony’s camo a bloody good shop carnt wait to try it out at the wkend
L15+M12 great show do like the looks of the kral but is there any news of the BSA bullpup
Its out now and it isn't good. We do a later review on it .
Superb Video again Chaps... Honest and to the point... Keep 'em coming. Thanks
My FX Bobcat mag´s are working perfect ! 3 times using and I was in to
Ascetics may be an issue, of course, however functionally it seems so obvious to put that giant bottle at the rear instead of hanging off the front. What are the downsides? Does the throw off the balance given the bottles are probably lighter than an equivalent sized piece of wood? I read that on the Airforce guns which use a similar bottle at the rear design, you have problems getting a good check weld. On the Np-02, the front cylinder just seems like left-over from another gun design.
Balance is surprisingly good . I think the bottle will be a little heavier than an equivalent wood stock. Go to your local retailer and try one :)
Hi, guys. Great show.
A Coul-Tec sound mod would tame the noise of the kral better than the rak one. Imop.
Wonder if a shorter air Venturi bottle would screw on the back and the put a buttstock from air Venturi.
O11 and P15 I think. I have the beeman grizzly dual calibre so don't have to worry about pellets
Thanks I've been waiting for the np02. ;-)
Curious to know how the NP-02 performs from a non southpaw? For the money it looks an interesting rifle but I guess it needs to be shouldered to make sure LOP is right but that left hand cocking lever is my main concern for staying on target and reloading. Good video though really enjoy them and competition guess is P19 & P20
N14, n15 must be a good for doing rats in at close work?
Would a cleaning pellet in one barrel enable you to chrono it accurately (at a distance the cleaning pellet wouldn’t reach). I suggest this not knowing anything about chrono’s or cleaning pellet distances.
It would upset the chronograph. I'm not going to even think about a solution because the gun is just too shit to bother with .
M14 and n17 looks like a very unique air rifle atb. Dave
I remember back in the 80s one of the magazines featuring a chap who built a double barrelled PCP.
The Imperial double express air rifle. That was the gun I couldn't remember the name of in the video.
It was a thing of beauty.
@@hotair4269 do you remember the old enfields in the 80s/90s that were converted to shoot pellets from a pre charged cartridge (brocock i think) what happened with them someone told me they got banned
@@geoffmcmahon4453 I remember them well but they were banned completely . I think because people were trying to convert them to live firing :(
@@blackpoolairrifles9311 oh right i thought it was maybe because those cartridges looked quite realistic they were banned with a new law on replica guns
I forget how short the barrel on this thing is without the suppressor, my dad got it second hand with a 3-10x scope, suppressor, flashlight and folding bipod for about £350, which is a good price for the gun on its own without the extra stuff
How about inserts ( guts O rings and so on ) are they made for good
That is different 2 barrels, ok J13, J15. the pistol looks good (once bedded in), but the Krall, maybe another tinkers gun ?.
Try shooting it into a thick book compared to another gun of the same caliber that you know is shooting at 11 ft lbs and see how many pages in penetrates we used old copies of the yellow pages before chronographs were freely available.
Good idea, I’ll do this and let you know. 👍
Another great show with honest reviews, please don’t lose that honestly. Message for Lloyd, is it time to lose the hat?? I think Tony is out shining you in the dress stakes. Woolly hats in the summer don’t really work. Come on my friend give it a go without, you can do it, you can do it!!
I have to say.....Tony does look like the 'professional' ....with Lloyd looking like a very eager and I must say......knowledgeable 'apprentice'...........they make a good and contrasting duo.........well worth watching
why would you presume to tell people what to wear, you tell people on the street this too? mind your own business
That Kral with scope and silencer wouldn’t fit in that box would it ? , still reasonable price for what ya get ,, cheers Shane uk 🇬🇧
Bought a np-02 a few days ago and it fits back in the case with a 3-9x50 scope, an Atec wave moderator, and still plenty of room to spare for accessories.
Edit: I didn't get the glossy instructions manual I got a black and white photocopy in an envelope.
Comp entry - 9K - 10K
put a regulator on the Np-02 and it'll it great.
hi what is the highest foot pound this gun could go and still do 80 shots at 177.?
If the length from the butt to the the pistol grip is the only thing you can find fault with , then I think Kral have made a nice rifle and found a place in the market for it. I’ve just bought one for my 14 year old Son and he has no problem handling it, perhaps the snobs who think you need to £2000 on a rifle to look good down the range and still couldn’t hit a pigs arse with a banjo need to take a look at themselves. It doesn’t claim to be an FX or Daystate , it’s £350
So good Kral..
As a representative of the community of people of diminished nature I thank you for mentioning us.
Audio is not clear. What model is this rifle (14:10) & price?
Benjamin Dual . They are about £250 in the UK.
Only came up with this: www.riflezone.com/beeman-rs1-dual-caliber-air-rifle-review/
www.amazon.com/Beeman-Dual-Caliber-Rifle-Combo-rifle/dp/B0010DV5Q4/ref=as_at?creativeASIN=B0010DV5Q4&linkCode=w61&imprToken=6PuVmjS9MZAO0tS5U2YQsw&slotNum=1&tag=a-r-20
What the the full name of this gun (14:10)?
Both pellets in M13
Guys i bought the kral NP02 after watching your video. And what a cracking little rifle, pellet on pellet accurate. Its bloody amazing. Now im kral fan and im thinking of buying an other kral.
So im in love with kral puncher pro but been told jumbo might be better. Any chance you guys can do review on kral pro and kral jumbo. Really hoping you say pro is amazing as lovely in shoulder. Really interested what like at on 40 metres plus to .
Thank
You
Andy from ellesmere port
Hi Andy. Glad you like the Np-02. We will be looking at more Krals but with new stuff we are going to wait till we get the range in October, then we can test them properly . The Puncher has been excellent , the Jumbo is also a great value gun with excellent performance and plenty of shots :)
Did you guys shoot the video on April 1 ? What possible use is a two pellet gun ?
I have no idea. I'd rather have a single shot that actually will hit the target personally
comp entry J12 & K15 - like WC Fields cue
I saw these at the northern shooting show and thought they looked great, I think it is a cheap alternative to the fx verminator.
España ,,,,cuarta categoria 24 julios,,,,,cuantos tiene este arma ,,,es regulable
With the Beeman,is there a way of attaching a combro to each barrel?
Interesting thought and probably but I really don't think its worth the effort !
Interesting for sure! L19, L21.
Lloyd what ever happened to the proper Leishy test? Could we have another look at one esp as it’s now on Mk2
Good question, you won't be waiting long for an answer...😉
Ooh cheers Tony, can’t wait 😀 you two guys are brill together, love all these videos! Reason I ask is because I’m trying to decide between an AirArms 410 TDR and the new 510 TDR.. then remembered the Leishy lol
We have had a look at it for the next episode , but we really really want to get out in the field with it and test it properly . That will come soon but for now you will just have to put up with us fondling it :)
Could u stick a rifle sized barrel on it ??
so how the hell do they chronograph shotgun ammunition ?
@Chris Landry my point was he said he cant chrony the rifle as it fires 2 pellets wakey wakey.
@Chris Landry let me explain again and i will use smaller words my original question was not in fact a question , it was sarcasm , i know full well how you chrony a shotgun since i have been a gunsmith since i qualified as one in the REME over 31 years ago and have worked as one since. there now do you get it ?
thanks tony.
At 732 seconds , Tony appeared to break that mag by turning it anti clockwise first ! Little blagger
M17, N19🤞🏻
Forgot to add regards the NP-02 Is the rear bottle cover moveable? Eg is it as far forward as it can go?
evonick the rear cover is removable- I’ve replaced mine with a Gunpower/Airforce skeleton bottle stock 👍🏻 it’s also adjustable for REALLY long arms
Ian Noller thanks for the reply 👍
Is there any kind of “impact energy” measuring device that could be used to work out the muzzle energy????
Yes a chronograph
John Gratton A chrony measures muzzle energy by measuring the velocity of a weight, I was talking about an “impact force” measuring device, a kind of pressure sensitive pad you might say, something that could take an impact reading from both barrels independently at the same time, thus working out the actual power output of each barrel & the pair combined. I’m sorry If i miss worded my query & sent you off track as to what I meant.
Yes, it’s called a ballistic pendulum, it was what was used before the electronic chronograph was invented. And no we don’t have one or any idea of anyone who might, but I suspect it probably wouldn’t work on such low energies anyway.
TONY BELAS thanks for the reply to what I thought was a valid question, with an educated response.
I also think you guys should make more videos, I check everyday to get my air gun fix.
P.s. are Stearling in some sort of trouble? Or just stuck up? I Emailed them to try to get info on there H18, because I want one (in December) & no one will tell me how to get one of the most beautiful rifles I have ever seen?
Thank you again for the contact Tony
All the best
Adz.
Jolly good gun,wish we had em in the USA. Shot show in L.V. Nevada,showed a np03 looks like junk compared to np02. Lucky Brits!
Makes a change, normally we are jealous of you guys getting almost anything you want :)
Just bagged one. Lefty with a long reach. Any long scope recommendations?
Nikko Panamax... the higher mag ones are longer. Superb optics for the money and totally reliable :)
Can the butt be detatched for easier transport?
I'm going to say around H13 and J15.
Did anyone win the competition?
Do you have the results from the range test on the NP-O2?
Not yet because the range isn't built sorry . We expect early next year.
3 and 1 at 20 past on the clock, love the pcp love the price just wish i had the cash...i hope it cant be fired with the bottle off ..the last rifle looks a bit of fun but i use enough pellets without doing 2 at once :)
bought one tonight, put a 4" silencer on it works a treat not noisey, needs a bit more testing but happy with it so far..(kral np-02)
Competition result?
picked up mine today £310 redbeck of Wakefield ..
How many shot it gave you in one tank?
P3 and N4?
17:20 Lead pellets will not have a higher velocity than aloys !!! depend on wight .at the same gun.
Good morning from the State's and good show again the Kral in the State's has a 50/50 reliability , air leak's cocking lever breaking and many other problems. I do like the way they look but reliability is what keeps me away . Thank's
Seems we are a little luckier in the UK . The older Krals have been poor but the latest stuff is getting better , and I do know our Uk importer checks the guns now , although they need to make sure everything works including the magazines !
yeah like this guy is qualified to judge the overall failure rate in the us based on what he reads on forums or whatever..
U8 and G18 👍🏻
Looks good fair play good price 2
Better customer care than Daystate i will never by a Daystate again
In case anyone missed it the kral has a 530cc bottle 😯🙄😂
I will say L9 and K12. It looks like the dual rifle belongs at a fair ground,just think you could win 2 coconut’s or even 2 goldfish imagine that.
I say J8 and K11 is where the pellets hit
"Rough as a Bears arse"...lol describes that gun perfectly.
i would say m15 ,m16
N13 and N15 I think
My np02 shoots under a 5 pence at 40 yards with job heavies as can be seen on my channel cheers shaneweightman
k15, k16
My mate bought the beeman twin barrel about 12 mouths ago and to sum how good it is one word ,crap!
Nice vid! L9 N12
Cheep fx verminator ?
Big bulky verminator
Can you not shoot 1 barrel at once
You could but it is a single piston venting into two barrels so if you only loaded one the one barrel, the other would allow too much air out effecting the power
If you want an oddity of a gun see if you can get a QB57 for show and tell bit
13J and 16M. That's my guess.
I'm guessing J14 L15
K10- j16
n10 and n12
Erm, people chrono shotshells all the time.. and they have more than 2 pellets
L8 and L7
N12, N13
You know something ? That rifle brings back memories of years past , too many years , memories that have haunted me for the best part of 44 years , why I hear you ask , well it was girl I once knew , she was drop dead gorgeous ( ok we were both around 14 yrs old ) I longed too ask her out , take her too the flicks ( picture house too you young kids ) buy her fish and chips , walk hand in hand along the canal towpath , kiss her gently good night as id see her too her door in safety , but NO it didn't happen , my dreams were shattered by fear of what my so called " mates " would say , you see , this diamond of a lass had a plastic leg , cut off just below the knee , don't know why or whatever the reason for this but too me it didn't matter , it's just what my mates would say that put off asking her out ... I was a fool .. it wouldn't happen now for sure , that episode in my life made me the man I am now ... Anyway this gun and it's " qwerkie " bottle for a stock reminds me of this girl and her plastic leg .. if I didn't have ( and just bought the new brocock bantam sniper hr ) so may rifles , I'd buy this ... No questions asked ... It would remind me of her , and vanquish a ghost that as haunted me for years ...
Anyway can I have 2 goes at the quiz?
Best comment !!
J7 M10
J16/k15.
U19 V20
A guy had one at side of me at the range and it was unbearably loud. I had to move to the other end and it was still off putting. Really you need ear plugs to shoot near them.
Or put a silencer on the gun :)
Lloyd Schober I’m not buying him one 🤣🤣
N-12 & O-13 :)
5 .0 6..0 target
M 14 , m 10 pure guess work 😂
Or M13 M14
Turn the double barrel sidewards and shoot with thin pice of tin between pellets krono one side haha