These commentators are morons to a man. They are incapable of any original thought. They simply repeat tired old phrases that they've heard some big boys using. They are terrified of change.
We are supposed to believe our glorious leaders because they know best, don'cha know. They are never corrupt, never lie and never make mistakes... If we don't trust them, it's because we are faaaaaaaaaar right and "conspiracy theorists".
Have you ever heard of "the argument from popularity"? It's a logical fallacy, because the mob can be wrong...Saying something is right because it is popular is stupid, and often demonstrably wrong. Other things that have been popular throughout history: Pilliaging, Rape, Slavery, Genocide, Witch burnings, Communism, Pogroms...I could carry on.
Poplar music good. Popular politics bad. Democracy reflecting the will of the people -bad. I never ever thought I would see the day when democracy would silence, suppress and cow the English and openly fail.
Concerned citizens are not Far Right or any other political trope used to brand them. THEY ARE JUST CONCERNED CITIZENS, worried for their families/children/country 🤬🤬🤬.
I hate this branding it is to demonise and silence us- I was a middle class ‘nice’ person, now because of what I have seen and experienced I would be far right marching with Steven Yaxley- to protect our girls being abused blatantly and because of being called racist and allowing rape of children to happen over 20 years because of P C - so far right and angry I am - don’t get me started on housing !!!!
I'm not sure how to feel when I watch a British Nationalist, a supposed patriot, yearning for a French leader without even the slightest flinch of self-awareness. It shows that not even your national pride has any real depth to it.
@@michaelcoward1902 can you really blame them who in their right mind would vote for any of the main parties they have killed the spirit of the British public with all this immigration it does not work you only have to see what has been happening here
The real question is, what percentage was implemented? No more than 40%, in my opinion. Voters are responsible for it. Why are you going to give the implementation powers to people who didn't believe in it in the first place ? Mama Mia, voters are nuts
On the subject of mass immigration into Europe, just what, exactly, is the Left's position? They call Marine Le Pen "far right", mainly because she wants to put an end to Muslim immigration. But what's "far right" about that? Surely it's perfectly sane to want to put an end to what is effectively open-borders into Europe? As things stand, the UN Convention rules that any person, from anywhere on the planet, can come to Europe and claim "asylum", and we in Europe must listen to his claim and put ourselves on the hook for his upkeep. If that is not stopped, then Europe will, in time, become a Muslim majority state. That's not alarmist. Over 90% of migrants to Europe are Muslim, and they will not stop coming. Is that what the Left want?
You need to realise, that the ones fascilitating and allowing all this 3rd world migration into Europe - our politicians and governments - are in fact the extremists.
Yes it's what they want. It's a revolutionary instinct. They want to overthrow "the system" because they think that they will be the vanguard of what replaces it. It's the parable of the "useful idiots" but, sadly for them, the French revolution is more applicable, and they'll quickly be on the chopping block. As the old saying goes "the revolution always eats its own".
Originally the left were against immigration because it means employers can bring in foreign workers to undercut indigenous workers, the right wing wanted immigration so that employers could do just that. Somehow the ruling class have managed to trick the left wing into supporting the rights of employers to bring in cheap Labour. It really has to be the biggest political coup in the history of the world, now both mainstream left and right parties support the rights of employers above those of workers.
100% correct - the unspoken issue is the rate at which Muslims Breed - 1 million becomes 20 million after 40 years (simple maths).....our Leaders in the West have been a disgrace for he past 25 years......the WEF makes them do it.
By middle class supposedly intelligent people who have zero connection with ordinary people. Neil just about sums that up. Full of pontificating bs and self interest. His views on vaccine mandates just about summarises where he’s at. Can’t stand the fella.
There is no structure to 'the working class' anymore. There used to be trades with apprenticeships, chargehands, foremen, Union reps- all of whom were respected. Now - not so much... an amalgam of ununionised, insecure low paid and gig economy. Unstable and, IMHO, dangerously open to the effects of unscrupulous media - both social and mainstream.
When during the Korean War the South was about to fall to the Chinese, a tanker loaded with fuel evacuated thousands of Koreans in one fell swoop.(through a minefield) Deportation does not have to be expensive!! No need to build houses for them in Rwanda either!!
Quite: "democracy" = rule by the people (demos = the people in Greek); "popularism" = "political movement appealing to the majority of the people" (from Latin populus, "the people").
Because we are making the "wrong" choices, and this annoys our controllers. If, however, the likes of Bliar, Trudeau and Clinton want something, you should choose the opposite.
Simply because it threatens the "We know best" attitude held by so many of today's politicos who are disciplies of even wider control than that available via the nation state. .
Populism is literally just a synonym for democracy, but the people who deride it don't want to say they don't like democracy. Similarly they are the people who claim to be "defending democracy" against populism, which is rather strange, until you realize that what they mean by "democracy" isn't democracy at all, but liberal technocracy.
But Britain was built by immigration. And depends on it for vital workers. The government is unwilling to invest in training because that would mean raising taxes!
@@PeterOzanne By a great majority it was white, Christian, European immigration. One generator down they were indistinguishable from the existing population + they weren't playing the victim to get concession after concession nor did they approve of religious changes to impose new religious regulations.
@@spex357 I'm talking post WW2, black Caribbean and African: they did the jobs others wouldn't. Now there's a lot of Asians who work in healthcare, who we couldn't do without! ☺️
@@mikosapps2476 I was referring mainly to the time since WW2. The large majority in the 50s and 60s who helped rebuild Britain were black, and had no religious angle at all. In the last couple of decades, the Indian, Philippine, and other Asian immigrants fill positions in healthcare for example, without whom the system would collapse.
What the hell do these Governments expect.? Continually ignoring the views of the electorate majority has its consequences. Also branding as “far right” politicians who for obvious reasons have an agenda that questions this authoritarian “to hell with you” attitude actually backfires because while in some cases this is probably true it doesn’t apply to all and the people can see through this charade.
The term 'racist' has been so overused it has no meaning any more. 'Far Right', meant to imply echoes of 1930s Germany is becoming similarly ineffective and meaningless. Far Right is now anyone who isn't a Neo Liberal. Which is most people.
@@jugbywellington1134 I've always considered Neil as a UK establishment gatekeeper. He is part of the control apparatus behind the puppet show of the Uniparty political system. His job is to keep the debate within a pre-set framework so real change never happens.
I think it's because we normal folk are simply not convinced of the benefits of Mass Immigration and Net Zero. We know very well that the only people who do support such things have those 'luxury beliefs' - totally unaffected by the side-effects of these two existential threats. Obvious Question ; if Mass Immigration and Net Zero are so darn brilliant, how come China, Russia and India aren't doing it !!??
Agree. Let’s ask all the Steelworkers in Port Talbot and Scunthorpe what they think of Net Zero. Thousands to lose their jobs. No more virgin steel. So we will just pay through the nose for it to be made overseas because we still need it and it will be transported by sea thousands of miles across the sea. Brilliant. Absolutely fkin brilliant.
@@jfro5867to be fair the Welsh have voted for and supported the left for decades now.... Well they got what they wished for in a left leaning "conservative" government. So what did they expect would happen?
@@andrewcheadle948 Yea I know Andrew. I grew up in Wales and left for work when I was 21, and live in Northern England now, I’m 55 soon. Parents still down there. Labour have not done anything for Wales really, Cardiff and Swansea city centres soaked up hundreds of millions in European money but the valleys have had nothing. They are spending an absolute fortune on the A470 Heads of the Valleys road from Abergavenny to Swansea that let’s be honest isn’t that busy anyway, plus it takes trade away from all the towns and villages en route and the high street is dying, wonder why? They hammer motorists with cameras, restrictions and low speed limits. None of it is joined up thinking.
There is ZERO benefit to mass immigration... It increases housing costs and drives down wages. Increases crime, creates division, destroys social cohesion, destroys a countries identity, fragments society, it causes resentment when immigrants are put first over the indigenous population, drives up taxation, puts pressure on resources, and in the case if England makes you feel like you're not in your own country anymore. There is ZERO benefit to it. All it does is destroy countries that have centuries of independence and culture, and betrays the memory of every singles person that gave their lives over all that time fighting to keep that countries freedom and sovereignty in wars! I'm sick of it. Sick of the corrupt, twisted liers that have done this to us and are destroying the west for their sick, pathetic agenda. I'm sick of feeling like a second-class citizen in my own country, and watching my country and heritige turn to dust. The enemy is our own governments and their puppet masters. It's time to make a stand and stop them. For the sake of all those that went be us to build what we have, and the sake of our children and their futures. The corrupt filth in office must be cleaned out! By whatever means necessary!
Never thought Neal would jump on that old bandwagon that if you raise concerns about immigration or the cost of net zero your some kind of far right nutjob disappointed in him
@@mrror8933 We didn't have anyone else to implement Brexit except the politicians. Prime Minister May spent three whole years 2016-2019 avoiding doing Brexit, aided by her civil service chiefs, then Boris had a chance with a landslide election victory on the policy to get Brexit done. Then covid came along.
@@routeman680and in that statement you have the exact fault of it all ,those in charge didn't want or do what the majority voted for and that's all you need to know
Quick reminder that there is no upper limit to diversity. You'll just be endlessly told things are too White until you wake up one day to something between Mogadishu and Karachi.
I am an academic and so is my wife. We have achieved a good standard of living and want it to stay that way. And because the established parties in Germany have no family policy, a bad school policy and a general socialist course of impoverishment by wilfully promoting poverty migration, we will fight back and vote accordingly in the next elections.
I think the turning point was probably around Trump and Brexit time. I think didn't see those things coming - and it really threw him. What with him calling for restrictions on people who do not wish to take a highly experimental drug - I think that really showed his true colours.
We just found out that the 3 main cities in England have white brittish English speaking people are a minority now and we're fed up with politicians telling us multi culture is great we have had enough whats wrong with looking after the indigenous population first and ensuring people added to the population are intergrated
Populism..feared by politicians because they lose control” from the established order. The public are given a shit choice between modern day politics so what do politicians expect when they don’t deliver on simple things? Immigration, defence of the realm, an orderly system that functions. Prospects for their families to grow and flourish. When the established parties refuse to do the basics, then the public will refuse to stand by them.
Brexit was supposed to have addressed the topic of mass immigration and the Tories failed miserably to implement any measures to address the problem. I don’t see how this can be another election on this issue when Labour don’t give a 💩 about how many people arrive unannounced. Britain needs a third option. The two party state is broken and Britain is disappearing before our eyes.
Most people I know will be voting reform. We just need anyone with common sense who cares about our future to also vote Reform. There are no other options to avoid the cliff edge we are running towards
Yes, and it's frustrating to think people think it highlights issues with Brexit. In fact, if a dedicated Brexit party was brought forward to handle it we would be in a very different situation. May, Boris and Sunak have been a trilogy of Tory shits.
That's richly ironic. "Popular" is from the Latin "populus," meaning "the people," while "democratic" is ultimately from the Ancient Greek demos, meaning the common people ,or "free citizens."
@@DieFlabbergast Well, if we are to include women now as bios and not zoe (bare life), I suppose it is interesting that these democrats speak of the populace as though plebs. If only we had some gracchi or catiline, to speak for us.
Same problem. Before Blair. Town was 90% White English. Now they make up a third of the town. Now a cross between Eastern Europe and Africa! I wish for the pre Multicultral society. Which is destroying the UK Britain 🇬🇧 first.
Yes, and he also mentioned them as "kids" just to cause sympathy on the criminals. The french boy who was stabbed to death was called Thomas, he was only 15. There was a festival on the small town he lived, and he went to that party. Then a group of migrants showed up with knives and yelled to everyone there" we are here to kill whites" ... so they stabbed unarmed civillians and Thomas died! And this comentator was shocked this crime caused so much protesting amongst the french? Really? I guess if Thomas was his grandchild, he would protest too!
I do love a cheeky listen of the views of people that don't live in the real world and therefore not alongside all the problems these polices bring to everyday life. Far removed from Poland who actually seem to care about their country and culture, the UK is dying in front of our eyes and it's heartbreaking to watch. Populism will expode in the next few years in the UK, I see so many people that were previously too polite to comment who now freely air their views. The people are not happy with constantly being ignored and absolutely done with politicians and their lies. Why would you continue to vote for promises that are never upheld? Whether by voter apathy or split vote, I'd like to offer congratulations to Kier Starmer, who gets to strike the death blow that finally finishes this country off for good. Now, who is currently accepting asylum seekers from the UK? Or do I get to choose like everyone else? 🤔
I think it was Fraser Nelson who first seemed absolutely accepting of mass immigration. He's still of the "It's lovely to have so many different types of foreign restaurants to choose from" state of mind that people living in certain well-heeled parts of London possess. Meanwhile, other people try to get doctor's appointments or places in state schools with less and less success. Actually, it's really shocking that journalists should have such limited experience of events in the real, every day, world.
I was in Islington on Tuesday and couldn't quite put my finger on what it was that was pleasantly different about it, it took a while ---- it's white and it's most definitely does not have a muslim component. Croydon Man
Yep, the UK is very ,uch kept under control by status anxiety (don't want to look working class by opposing immigration etc), and politeness (don't want to upset anyone or go against the group). Once those methods of control break down though, you get something called a preference cascade, where people all realize that almost everyone is opposed to how things are going, they were just intimidated into staying silent.
The flaw in UK democratic system is that if the 2 main parties agree on a policy like net carbon zero or migration there isn't much the electorate can do about it. You can get rid of 1 of the 2 parties but the other one will do it anyway.
The UK needs a non violent right wing populist leader and supporters, whom are firm, fair and Christian based. Otherwise the problems we all face will be too much to fix.
Populism seems to align with indigenous peoples needs to a large extent. Brexit was about bringing sovereignty back to parliament so Andrew focusing on economic aspects is the perennial straw man brexit argument
And let's not forget that Brexit has been despatately mishandled by a party for which large swathes held nothing but contempt for Brexit. Brexit should have been conducted by a dedicated party that believed in it.
@dominionphilosophy3698 The establishment/ruling class cannot continue to reject what the people want and have voted for whilst at the same time wrecking things. The system will implode, and is already doing so.
Trump was right about NATO and about Germany's reliance on Russian oil and gas. They laughed at him. Orange man was right. We are only disillusioned with Brexit because it hasn't been fully implemented. We are doing well when you compare with many EU countries.
("a political approach that strives to appeal to ordinary people who feel that their concerns are disregarded by established elite groups".) Populism = Democracy
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One of the top issues, that worries the masses, is personal transport, that is mainly I.C.E cars and motorcycles. Any populist party who comes out as pro motorist is probably onto a winner.
'Populist right' also known as what the majority want or democracy. However the definition of 'right wing' has little meaning in this context because the economic policies of the current Italian government (described as far right) are left wing (big government, state intervention etc). Wanting strong borders and consider net zero policies to be ruiness to Europe are not unique to right wing voters.
My Polish friend who came to the U.K. to work and prosper after the fall of Communism will, I think, return home. Our little town is drugs ridden and down at heel. It's been nominated by a newspaper as the best place to live in Britain. Heaven help us. Many of our coastal resorts are dire whereas Poland's are rather superior. Don't underestimate the Czechs either, or the Slovaks and other states which existed under Soviet control. None have a huge level of self-inflicted non productive people living on benefits, whether home grown or imported. The Roma people in my own small town in the Czech Republic (Never Czechia) were all working, earning, spending and accepted. One could live off the forest for fuel, fungi, nuts and berries. Many did. The country has half the population density of the U.K. and three times the percentage of forest cover. Approx. 11% v 34%. There's a price to pay for importing idle souls.
That's the point isn't it we have had mass immigration from all over the place including eastern Europe, we never asked for it we never voted on it. People have came made a living taken a house, educated themselves or their children, used the NHS and surprise surprise when things get tough here where do these people go, back home...leaving us with the mess
Andrew Neil says Britain can no longer give leadership in the EU now that we’re out ! ……When were we ever allowed any where near that leadership ? I must have blinked and missed it !!
Yes, it's because they can't bring themselves to admit that it's pure democracy. They hate when the public express their view and don't just do what they are told by their betters.
Perhaps it is time to bring back National Service. Not to give working class yobs a sense of discipline but to force the elites meet people not of their class. The Post War Consensus has ended as elites are too far distanced from the general population. They seem to believe that they earned their position in life entirely through merit. Those less fortunate (if they are white working class) only have to work hard to go to Oxbridge and some how suddenly have all their family networking links. It is a lot harder to look down on people when you are forced to spend extended periods of time with them and share hardships.
Worth noting: Donald Tusk's Civic Platform won partially because they campaigned to the right of the former ruling party on issues such as immigration and economic populism/nationalism. Tusk explicitly criticized the then-ruling party for bringing in too many migrants from Muslim countries. He, and other members of his coalition, also criticized the government for privatizing certain assets to foreign investors, e.g. the oil refinery in Gdańsk was sold to Saudi Arabia.
Republic -> Latin: " Res Publica" that means "People's Matter / Public Matter" Its also the word "Politican", "Public" and also "Police" came from So acting in the interests of the issues expressed by the people and taking them seriously (POPULISM) is what a republic is all about! -> Who ever want to talk you out of that , is the issue.
No one with any sense of history and the importance of the nation state to the people of any given country can fail to recognise the increased distrust for those in politics today who seem to be serving their own agendas rather than the people they are there to represent by responding to their concerns, among which are the failures to regulate immigration and the economy. It is ironic that these concerns should find themselves labelled by today's politically employed as "populist" or "far right", as if the latter see their position as loftily above the mere worries of ordinary folk. We know the EU was born from a deceit that planned a federal entity that was to be kept from the people until it was too late for them to do anything about it - a description used by one of the founder advocates of this latter-day empire. But open borders was always going to be "pie in the sky" for the problems and downright threats it presented. If it is populist and far right to understand this basic reality, then so be it! Those terms are trotted out to suit elitist views far removed from what is as plain as the nose on your face. The pie in the sky has become egg on their smug manipulative faces and they;ll be the last to admit it.
Andrew Neill is the bloke who thought unvaxxed folk should be herded into concentration camps, isn't he? Great to have his valuable opinions on other topics.
I would appreciate analysis when I come to the Spectator. Instead I get MI6 handwringing and downtalk from our masters. Brexit was betrayed by its enemies the British civil service and the EU leadership. Don’t lose sight of that when you talk of disappointment and betrayals.
You know what you need to do: Vote Reform UK And, visit the UK parliament petition website and please sign and share this one: "Close the borders! Suspend ALL immigration for 5 years." Please share petition far and wide - we need to shock government into doing the will of the people 👍
Why not talk about the populist left? We in Britain have a far left, anti monarchy, anti business, unilateralist blood & soil nationalist party in power in Scotland.
Don’t actually mention what the immigrants in Southern France said. To say that inflation was a surprise is absolute nonsense. Andrew Neil talking out of his rear. It’s been a long time since he actually thought about anything seriously.
The polish election isn't an example of things swinging the other way at all like these so called political pundits irresponsibly say. The formerly governing party is by far the largest party and donald tusk had to do dodgy deals with dozens of other parties to scrape together a small, miniscule majority that is unsustainable. It may perhaps be Polands undoing but I suspect once Tusk proves to be a disaster and unpopular, the already dominant right will recover from the very small swing it has had against it and pick up more support from the Tusk camp.
Populism = a large section of public opinion. Something wrong with that?
These commentators are morons to a man. They are incapable of any original thought. They simply repeat tired old phrases that they've heard some big boys using. They are terrified of change.
Populism = manipulation of thick bigoted gammons by cynical shyster politicians. 😄
We are supposed to believe our glorious leaders because they know best, don'cha know. They are never corrupt, never lie and never make mistakes... If we don't trust them, it's because we are faaaaaaaaaar right and "conspiracy theorists".
Have you ever heard of "the argument from popularity"?
It's a logical fallacy, because the mob can be wrong...Saying something is right because it is popular is stupid, and often demonstrably wrong.
Other things that have been popular throughout history: Pilliaging, Rape, Slavery, Genocide, Witch burnings, Communism, Pogroms...I could carry on.
Poplar music good. Popular politics bad. Democracy reflecting the will of the people -bad. I never ever thought I would see the day when democracy would silence, suppress and cow the English and openly fail.
Concerned citizens are not Far Right or any other political trope used to brand them. THEY ARE JUST CONCERNED CITIZENS, worried for their families/children/country 🤬🤬🤬.
I hate this branding it is to demonise and silence us- I was a middle class ‘nice’ person, now because of what I have seen and experienced I would be far right marching with Steven Yaxley- to protect our girls being abused blatantly and because of being called racist and allowing rape of children to happen over 20 years because of P C - so far right and angry I am - don’t get me started on housing !!!!
In todays mad world everything that isn't socialist is called far right.
Common sense needs to be front and centre politically. It seems to be lacking everywhere in our leaders.
There is different categories of far right
Maybe the majority of the people, populists, are fed up with politicians who don't represent them? It's the Faaaar right, ANDREW?
Africa is a failed Continent. Since the ANC took over South Africa it has gone downhill. I am for the Right.
I'm Faaaaargh! Roight!
everybody to the right of Karl Marx id faaaaaaaaaaaaar right according to these plonkers
The biggest driver of Muslim immigration into Europe this century have been the wars waged by the West on Muslim countries.
He's an establishment shill, always has been. Controlled opposition.
I’d rather have Le Pen than our sorry bunch we have to choose from here any day. 😢
Good heavens, yes! She is the Gert Wilders of France---standing firm for decades against an endless stream of vituperation and condemnation
I'm not sure how to feel when I watch a British Nationalist, a supposed patriot, yearning for a French leader without even the slightest flinch of self-awareness.
It shows that not even your national pride has any real depth to it.
I have been willing her to victory for decades. It's encouraging to see her rising in the polls.
@@ericrawson2909me too
@@michaelcoward1902 can you really blame them who in their right mind would vote for any of the main parties they have killed the spirit of the British public with all this immigration it does not work you only have to see what has been happening here
Brexit was never completely implemented.
The real question is, what percentage was implemented? No more than 40%, in my opinion.
Voters are responsible for it. Why are you going to give the implementation powers to people who didn't believe in it in the first place ?
Mama Mia, voters are nuts
@@marvinbrando722 No, the politicians who haven't implemented Brexit are responsible.
The government didn't have the implements to implement it.
@@evad7933yes they need to grow a pair
On the subject of mass immigration into Europe, just what, exactly, is the Left's position? They call Marine Le Pen "far right", mainly because she wants to put an end to Muslim immigration. But what's "far right" about that? Surely it's perfectly sane to want to put an end to what is effectively open-borders into Europe? As things stand, the UN Convention rules that any person, from anywhere on the planet, can come to Europe and claim "asylum", and we in Europe must listen to his claim and put ourselves on the hook for his upkeep. If that is not stopped, then Europe will, in time, become a Muslim majority state. That's not alarmist. Over 90% of migrants to Europe are Muslim, and they will not stop coming. Is that what the Left want?
You need to realise, that the ones fascilitating and allowing all this 3rd world migration into Europe - our politicians and governments - are in fact the extremists.
Yes it's what they want. It's a revolutionary instinct. They want to overthrow "the system" because they think that they will be the vanguard of what replaces it. It's the parable of the "useful idiots" but, sadly for them, the French revolution is more applicable, and they'll quickly be on the chopping block. As the old saying goes "the revolution always eats its own".
They are too thick and don't really care about native populations. Socialists with capitalist wallets.
Originally the left were against immigration because it means employers can bring in foreign workers to undercut indigenous workers, the right wing wanted immigration so that employers could do just that. Somehow the ruling class have managed to trick the left wing into supporting the rights of employers to bring in cheap Labour. It really has to be the biggest political coup in the history of the world, now both mainstream left and right parties support the rights of employers above those of workers.
100% correct - the unspoken issue is the rate at which Muslims Breed - 1 million becomes 20 million after 40 years (simple maths).....our Leaders in the West have been a disgrace for he past 25 years......the WEF makes them do it.
The working class have all kinds slurs thrown at them
By middle class supposedly intelligent people who have zero connection with ordinary people. Neil just about sums that up. Full of pontificating bs and self interest. His views on vaccine mandates just about summarises where he’s at. Can’t stand the fella.
Usually by the likes of Andrew Neil
Usually "Scrounger", and mostly from other working class.
There is no structure to 'the working class' anymore. There used to be trades with apprenticeships, chargehands, foremen, Union reps- all of whom were respected. Now - not so much... an amalgam of ununionised, insecure low paid and gig economy. Unstable and, IMHO, dangerously open to the effects of unscrupulous media - both social and mainstream.
Get them blaming each other, its the Tory way. Divide & conquer.
Mass deportations or remigration needs to become mainstream including stripping people of citizenship.
Exactly - change the laws if need be.
It will either come to civil war or a populist shift.
They are making their own beds.
When during the Korean War the South was about to fall to the Chinese, a tanker loaded with fuel evacuated thousands of Koreans in one fell swoop.(through a minefield) Deportation does not have to be expensive!! No need to build houses for them in Rwanda either!!
You are 100 % correct.
#StartTheDeportations
The very notion of "popularism" is absurd. Democracy is based on popularism, how can it be a label for contempt.
Quite: "democracy" = rule by the people (demos = the people in Greek); "popularism" = "political movement appealing to the majority of the people" (from Latin populus, "the people").
It's a smear tactic, pure and simple.
Because we are making the "wrong" choices, and this annoys our controllers. If, however, the likes of Bliar, Trudeau and Clinton want something, you should choose the opposite.
Simply because it threatens the "We know best" attitude held by so many of today's politicos who are
disciplies of even wider control than that available via the nation state. .
Populism is literally just a synonym for democracy, but the people who deride it don't want to say they don't like democracy.
Similarly they are the people who claim to be "defending democracy" against populism, which is rather strange, until you realize that what they mean by "democracy" isn't democracy at all, but liberal technocracy.
Being anti-immigration is not extreme right, or far right, it's just right
But Britain was built by immigration. And depends on it for vital workers. The government is unwilling to invest in training because that would mean raising taxes!
@@PeterOzanne By a great majority it was white, Christian, European immigration. One generator down they were indistinguishable from the existing population + they weren't playing the victim to get concession after concession nor did they approve of religious changes to impose new religious regulations.
@@PeterOzanne Cathedrals maybe.
@@spex357 I'm talking post WW2, black Caribbean and African: they did the jobs others wouldn't. Now there's a lot of Asians who work in healthcare, who we couldn't do without! ☺️
@@mikosapps2476 I was referring mainly to the time since WW2. The large majority in the 50s and 60s who helped rebuild Britain were black, and had no religious angle at all. In the last couple of decades, the Indian, Philippine, and other Asian immigrants fill positions in healthcare for example, without whom the system would collapse.
What the hell do these Governments expect.? Continually ignoring the views of the electorate majority has its consequences. Also branding as “far right” politicians who for obvious reasons have an agenda that questions this authoritarian “to hell with you” attitude actually backfires because while in some cases this is probably true it doesn’t apply to all and the people can see through this charade.
The term 'racist' has been so overused it has no meaning any more. 'Far Right', meant to imply echoes of 1930s Germany is becoming similarly ineffective and meaningless.
Far Right is now anyone who isn't a Neo Liberal. Which is most people.
Funny how the likes of Andrew Neil never address this. All that BBC training, eh?
@@jugbywellington1134
I've always considered Neil as a UK establishment gatekeeper. He is part of the control apparatus behind the puppet show of the Uniparty political system. His job is to keep the debate within a pre-set framework so real change never happens.
No-one will listen until we do vote far-right. It's the only thing they fear. The only thing.
@@jugbywellington1134 He's part of the liberal establishment.
I think it's because we normal folk are simply not convinced of the benefits of Mass Immigration and Net Zero. We know very well that the only people who do support such things have those 'luxury beliefs' - totally unaffected by the side-effects of these two existential threats. Obvious Question ; if Mass Immigration and Net Zero are so darn brilliant, how come China, Russia and India aren't doing it !!??
Agree. Let’s ask all the Steelworkers in Port Talbot and Scunthorpe what they think of Net Zero. Thousands to lose their jobs. No more virgin steel. So we will just pay through the nose for it to be made overseas because we still need it and it will be transported by sea thousands of miles across the sea. Brilliant. Absolutely fkin brilliant.
First they came for the Steel workers @@jfro5867 who's next ?
@@jfro5867to be fair the Welsh have voted for and supported the left for decades now.... Well they got what they wished for in a left leaning "conservative" government.
So what did they expect would happen?
@@andrewcheadle948 Yea I know Andrew. I grew up in Wales and left for work when I was 21, and live in Northern England now, I’m 55 soon. Parents still down there. Labour have not done anything for Wales really, Cardiff and Swansea city centres soaked up hundreds of millions in European money but the valleys have had nothing. They are spending an absolute fortune on the A470 Heads of the Valleys road from Abergavenny to Swansea that let’s be honest isn’t that busy anyway, plus it takes trade away from all the towns and villages en route and the high street is dying, wonder why? They hammer motorists with cameras, restrictions and low speed limits. None of it is joined up thinking.
There is ZERO benefit to mass immigration...
It increases housing costs and drives down wages. Increases crime, creates division, destroys social cohesion, destroys a countries identity, fragments society, it causes resentment when immigrants are put first over the indigenous population, drives up taxation, puts pressure on resources, and in the case if England makes you feel like you're not in your own country anymore.
There is ZERO benefit to it. All it does is destroy countries that have centuries of independence and culture, and betrays the memory of every singles person that gave their lives over all that time fighting to keep that countries freedom and sovereignty in wars!
I'm sick of it. Sick of the corrupt, twisted liers that have done this to us and are destroying the west for their sick, pathetic agenda. I'm sick of feeling like a second-class citizen in my own country, and watching my country and heritige turn to dust.
The enemy is our own governments and their puppet masters. It's time to make a stand and stop them. For the sake of all those that went be us to build what we have, and the sake of our children and their futures.
The corrupt filth in office must be cleaned out! By whatever means necessary!
Never thought Neal would jump on that old bandwagon that if you raise concerns about immigration or the cost of net zero your some kind of far right nutjob disappointed in him
He’s in the mainstream media so of course he would as that’s the narrative/propaganda they spout. You can’t have your own thoughts on the MSM.
He's been a disappointment for a long time.
He did want us all mandatory vaxxed!
That highlighted what a total A-hole he is!
He wanted vax mandates! Do showed his true colours a while back!
The bloke is a colossal A-hole!
After he abanded GB news witthin 3 months and called everyone refuseniks I can totally believe it.
those of us who voted for brexit feel betrayed ... by our politicians not by brexit per say
By voting brexit, you put all your trust in British politicians. No surprise you feel betrayed.
@@mrror8933 I dont trust european politicians any more than british ones, voting remain would have been putting my trust in them , tomato tomato
@@mrror8933 We didn't have anyone else to implement Brexit except the politicians. Prime Minister May spent three whole years 2016-2019 avoiding doing Brexit, aided by her civil service chiefs, then Boris had a chance with a landslide election victory on the policy to get Brexit done. Then covid came along.
@@routeman680 By design?
@@routeman680and in that statement you have the exact fault of it all ,those in charge didn't want or do what the majority voted for and that's all you need to know
Not 'far right', just right!
"The Strange Death of Europe" by Douglas Murray - excellent discussion. Thank you.
Douglas is spot on!
Murray is so much more aware than Andrew Neil.
@@peterwest5525 Neil is too comfortable.
Quick reminder that there is no upper limit to diversity. You'll just be endlessly told things are too White until you wake up one day to something between Mogadishu and Karachi.
I am not a believer of diversity. South Africa is a believer of diversity and has failed miserably.
I think we are already there in many places. God help Europe.
And all this is happening at the same time as white people are being demonised. It won't end well.
“Far right” and “populist right” are just coded words for working class people.
You hit the target.
And patriots.
Stop with the 'right wing' and 'populist' rhetoric! We are main stream. If you have not seen extreme right yet, you'd bettter hope it never happens.
I am an academic and so is my wife. We have achieved a good standard of living and want it to stay that way. And because the established parties in Germany have no family policy, a bad school policy and a general socialist course of impoverishment by wilfully promoting poverty migration, we will fight back and vote accordingly in the next elections.
Maybe we should start referring to the populist-right as the populist-correct.
In other words, ‘normal people’
@@peterbee88 sensible centrists
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Andrew used to have his finger on the pulse, but I think he's losing it now.
I'm not too sure he has a pulse of his own.
He's got his finger on the Irish jig
I think the turning point was probably around Trump and Brexit time. I think didn't see those things coming - and it really threw him. What with him calling for restrictions on people who do not wish to take a highly experimental drug - I think that really showed his true colours.
"Populism", sigh. So predictable.
As opposed to... 'unpopulism' I can only assume.
These people have had ALL of their minds hijacked.
Well...we couldn't possibly have the commoners telling us what to do!
Populism is the name left-wing Marxist billionaires give them. They appeal to all.
We just found out that the 3 main cities in England have white brittish English speaking people are a minority now and we're fed up with politicians telling us multi culture is great we have had enough whats wrong with looking after the indigenous population first and ensuring people added to the population are intergrated
Populism..feared by politicians because they lose control” from the established order.
The public are given a shit choice between modern day politics so what do politicians expect when they don’t deliver on simple things?
Immigration, defence of the realm, an orderly system that functions. Prospects for their families to grow and flourish.
When the established parties refuse to do the basics, then the public will refuse to stand by them.
Brexit was supposed to have addressed the topic of mass immigration and the Tories failed miserably to implement any measures to address the problem. I don’t see how this can be another election on this issue when Labour don’t give a 💩 about how many people arrive unannounced. Britain needs a third option. The two party state is broken and Britain is disappearing before our eyes.
Most people I know will be voting reform. We just need anyone with common sense who cares about our future to also vote Reform. There are no other options to avoid the cliff edge we are running towards
Yes, and it's frustrating to think people think it highlights issues with Brexit.
In fact, if a dedicated Brexit party was brought forward to handle it we would be in a very different situation. May, Boris and Sunak have been a trilogy of Tory shits.
It's interesting that these guys only talk about the socio-economic groups that they move in. Again the "Westminster Bubble"
What's wrong with populism? How is it a pejorative? It's representation of the aspirations of the people.
Andrew Neil continues to make a fool of himself.
“The kids were French”
They were Arabs
correct
Always quite amusing that they attack the popular as something antidemocratic.
It's tge thing that elites fear, people having their say. Terrifying.
That's richly ironic. "Popular" is from the Latin "populus," meaning "the people," while "democratic" is ultimately from the Ancient Greek demos, meaning the common people ,or "free citizens."
Yep, it's the ultimate in gaslighting.
@@DieFlabbergast Well, if we are to include women now as bios and not zoe (bare life), I suppose it is interesting that these democrats speak of the populace as though plebs. If only we had some gracchi or catiline, to speak for us.
Blair has been saying "Democracy doesn't work" for years. Well he should know - he's doing everything possible to undermine it.
I grew up in a normal English town in Greater London. In the space of 35 yrs all the English people have gone. It is now 40% plus Muslim.
Same problem. Before Blair. Town was 90% White English. Now they make up a third of the town. Now a cross between Eastern Europe and Africa! I wish for the pre Multicultral society. Which is destroying the UK Britain 🇬🇧 first.
“French of migrant background” - so they’re not French.
Yes, and he also mentioned them as "kids" just to cause sympathy on the criminals. The french boy who was stabbed to death was called Thomas, he was only 15. There was a festival on the small town he lived, and he went to that party. Then a group of migrants showed up with knives and yelled to everyone there" we are here to kill whites" ... so they stabbed unarmed civillians and Thomas died!
And this comentator was shocked this crime caused so much protesting amongst the french? Really?
I guess if Thomas was his grandchild, he would protest too!
These fools just don't want to upset anyone. It's laughable!
English lives and culture matter 🇦🇺
Andrew Neil should STOP causing political discourse! It is NOT a case of Left vs Right, it is a case of right vs wrong!!!
Hey, but he flew in from France to bring this special message.
I can only assume that Andrew Neil is ill.
I do love a cheeky listen of the views of people that don't live in the real world and therefore not alongside all the problems these polices bring to everyday life. Far removed from Poland who actually seem to care about their country and culture, the UK is dying in front of our eyes and it's heartbreaking to watch. Populism will expode in the next few years in the UK, I see so many people that were previously too polite to comment who now freely air their views. The people are not happy with constantly being ignored and absolutely done with politicians and their lies. Why would you continue to vote for promises that are never upheld? Whether by voter apathy or split vote, I'd like to offer congratulations to Kier Starmer, who gets to strike the death blow that finally finishes this country off for good. Now, who is currently accepting asylum seekers from the UK? Or do I get to choose like everyone else? 🤔
I think it was Fraser Nelson who first seemed absolutely accepting of mass immigration. He's still of the "It's lovely to have so many different types of foreign restaurants to choose from" state of mind that people living in certain well-heeled parts of London possess. Meanwhile, other people try to get doctor's appointments or places in state schools with less and less success.
Actually, it's really shocking that journalists should have such limited experience of events in the real, every day, world.
Spot on, 100% agree. Starmer will bring in a living nightmare just before he gets toppled by the far left extremists in his party.
I was in Islington on Tuesday and couldn't quite put my finger on what it was that was pleasantly different about it, it took a while ---- it's white and it's most definitely does not have a muslim component. Croydon Man
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You could probably have stopped by Fraser Nelson's place for a coffee. No troublesome brown folk in his neighbourhood.
Yep, the UK is very ,uch kept under control by status anxiety (don't want to look working class by opposing immigration etc), and politeness (don't want to upset anyone or go against the group).
Once those methods of control break down though, you get something called a preference cascade, where people all realize that almost everyone is opposed to how things are going, they were just intimidated into staying silent.
The ignorance on display here is next level. These people have no right to hold their positions.
It's not far right to want to .prioritise the indigenous culture of a country.
It's just right
The flaw in UK democratic system is that if the 2 main parties agree on a policy like net carbon zero or migration there isn't much the electorate can do about it. You can get rid of 1 of the 2 parties but the other one will do it anyway.
Exactly same situation in Ireland.
Lab and Cons are two cheeks of the same backside.
They both dance to the tune of the same puppetmaster.
Yes. The _illusion_ of choice is what the game's all about.
5:07 Vote Reform
I wish we could vote for Le Penn here.
Right now dont want replacement migration
The UK needs a non violent right wing populist leader and supporters, whom are firm, fair and Christian based. Otherwise the problems we all face will be too much to fix.
His name is Nigel Farage
*Reasonable majority of working class people express sensible opinion
Pencil Pushers: “FAR RIGHT RADICALS!”
I am sat here freezing, can,t afford heating. There are millions like me. While you lot talk utter bollocks there is only one question - energy.
Perhaps some voters are simply growing frustrated with the status quo and politicians who refuse to keep their word or adhere to their promises?
Popolo, italian root of the word, simply means " the people.
if you ignore your people, expect chaos...
The word does not come from Italian, it comes from Italian's dad -- Latin (populus).
@@DieFlabbergast same same 😁
absolute state of these coddled luvvies who 'know' what's right for the little people....times up for you lot
Thats what the whole of Europe needs.
A new Nationalism.
A rare case of Andrew Neil talking tosh. I guess ultimately he is an Elite. Although his last comment was spot on.
It's not that rare these days unfortunately, I can't remember the last time he spoke non-tosh.
As opposed to all our societal norms and culture being ripped to shreds.
Populism seems to align with indigenous peoples needs to a large extent. Brexit was about bringing sovereignty back to parliament so Andrew focusing on economic aspects is the perennial straw man brexit argument
And let's not forget that Brexit has been despatately mishandled by a party for which large swathes held nothing but contempt for Brexit.
Brexit should have been conducted by a dedicated party that believed in it.
For 'Populist' read ordinary people with common sense, and incidentally usually the majority, who do not share the views of privileged minorities.
The visceral hatred of Russia is always set to high with Andrew Neil.
Trump didn’t undermine nato - it’s the counties in Europe that don’t pull their weight to defend their own continent
I don’t see what is wrong with democracy.
I see nothing wrong either. It's just our disgraced PM. Not worth the cost, gives me headache.
@dominionphilosophy3698 The establishment/ruling class cannot continue to reject what the people want and have voted for whilst at the same time wrecking things. The system will implode, and is already doing so.
Why do the media types always say the advances of ghe 'far right' is a shock?
It may be a shock to them ....
Trump was right about NATO and about Germany's reliance on Russian oil and gas. They laughed at him. Orange man was right.
We are only disillusioned with Brexit because it hasn't been fully implemented. We are doing well when you compare with many EU countries.
("a political approach that strives to appeal to ordinary people who feel that their concerns are disregarded by established elite groups".)
Populism = Democracy
Yes❤
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Lots of teachers have been threatened in France, so at 4.30 is wrong.
One of the top issues, that worries the masses, is personal transport, that is mainly I.C.E cars and motorcycles. Any populist party who comes out as pro motorist is probably onto a winner.
So Andrew would describe Biden as ‘certain and reliable’? His Administration is certain and reliable in starting and escalating conflicts.
I thought the Spectator were a relatively conservative outlet, but this whole discussion was laced with "Oooh but we don't want to stir up the right".
I am very sad that Andrew Neil is so ill. He used to be worth listening to. Now he is no more sensible than Biden,
Sick of this like most of Europe #reformparty_uk LIEbour and the CONservatives have failed in most areas. #timeforchange
'Populist right' also known as what the majority want or democracy. However the definition of 'right wing' has little meaning in this context because the economic policies of the current Italian government (described as far right) are left wing (big government, state intervention etc). Wanting strong borders and consider net zero policies to be ruiness to Europe are not unique to right wing voters.
My Polish friend who came to the U.K. to work and prosper after the fall of Communism will, I think, return home. Our little town is drugs ridden and down at heel. It's been nominated by a newspaper as the best place to live in Britain. Heaven help us. Many of our coastal resorts are dire whereas Poland's are rather superior. Don't underestimate the Czechs either, or the Slovaks and other states which existed under Soviet control. None have a huge level of self-inflicted non productive people living on benefits, whether home grown or imported. The Roma people in my own small town in the Czech Republic (Never Czechia) were all working, earning, spending and accepted. One could live off the forest for fuel, fungi, nuts and berries. Many did. The country has half the population density of the U.K. and three times the percentage of forest cover. Approx. 11% v 34%. There's a price to pay for importing idle souls.
That's the point isn't it we have had mass immigration from all over the place including eastern Europe, we never asked for it we never voted on it. People have came made a living taken a house, educated themselves or their children, used the NHS and surprise surprise when things get tough here where do these people go, back home...leaving us with the mess
the more i hear these so called political commentaters speak the more i realise they have absolutely no idea what is happening in the real world.
They’re just following a script,the MSM narrative/propaganda.
Populist means non-political elite. Popular as opposed to oligarchical.
Andrew Neil says Britain can no longer give leadership in the EU now that we’re out ! ……When were we ever allowed any where near that leadership ? I must have blinked and missed it !!
Popularism as a thing of the right seems like an invention.
That's because "right" doesn't mean what it used to. Nowadays, it simply means "common sense."
Yes, it's because they can't bring themselves to admit that it's pure democracy. They hate when the public express their view and don't just do what they are told by their betters.
Perhaps it is time to bring back National Service. Not to give working class yobs a sense of discipline but to force the elites meet people not of their class. The Post War Consensus has ended as elites are too far distanced from the general population. They seem to believe that they earned their position in life entirely through merit. Those less fortunate (if they are white working class) only have to work hard to go to Oxbridge and some how suddenly have all their family networking links. It is a lot harder to look down on people when you are forced to spend extended periods of time with them and share hardships.
Right is right
I find the terms 'populism' and 'populist' pejorative. Whoever gets voted in is the most popular, regardless of the 'colour' of their politics.
What is so great about open borders?
Nothing.
Worth noting: Donald Tusk's Civic Platform won partially because they campaigned to the right of the former ruling party on issues such as immigration and economic populism/nationalism. Tusk explicitly criticized the then-ruling party for bringing in too many migrants from Muslim countries. He, and other members of his coalition, also criticized the government for privatizing certain assets to foreign investors, e.g. the oil refinery in Gdańsk was sold to Saudi Arabia.
A trick?
Can we have net zero immigration and keep on demand electricity instead of renewable you will get it when the weather is right electricity.
Andrew Neil trying to define a universal definition of what “far right” is stopped me from watching further. The waffle and stupidity of it.
Is this the Andrew Neil who lives in France ?
Republic -> Latin: " Res Publica" that means "People's Matter / Public Matter"
Its also the word "Politican", "Public" and also "Police" came from
So acting in the interests of the issues expressed by the people and taking them seriously (POPULISM) is what a republic is all about! -> Who ever want to talk you out of that , is the issue.
The people have had enough. Of politicians. Failing our nation and people.
That’s it in a nut shell.
Time for populism.
Andrew "take your jab" Neil. This guy has zero credibility.
Right is "Right". look at Oxford dictionary: "morally good, justified, or acceptable". there is nothing wrong with being right.
No one with any sense of history and the importance of the nation state to the people of any given country
can fail to recognise the increased distrust for those in politics today who seem to be serving their own
agendas rather than the people they are there to represent by responding to their concerns, among which
are the failures to regulate immigration and the economy. It is ironic that these concerns should find
themselves labelled by today's politically employed as "populist" or "far right", as if the latter see their
position as loftily above the mere worries of ordinary folk. We know the EU was born from a deceit
that planned a federal entity that was to be kept from the people until it was too late for them to do
anything about it - a description used by one of the founder advocates of this latter-day empire. But
open borders was always going to be "pie in the sky" for the problems and downright threats it presented.
If it is populist and far right to understand this basic reality, then so be it! Those terms are trotted out
to suit elitist views far removed from what is as plain as the nose on your face. The pie in the sky has
become egg on their smug manipulative faces and they;ll be the last to admit it.
It’s not a failure,it’s intentional.
Andrew why WOULDN’T IT stir people up? I always credited you with a modicum of common sense but maybe I was wrong.
Andrew Neill is the bloke who thought unvaxxed folk should be herded into concentration camps, isn't he? Great to have his valuable opinions on other topics.
Time to retire?
I would appreciate analysis when I come to the Spectator.
Instead I get MI6 handwringing and downtalk from our masters.
Brexit was betrayed by its enemies the British civil service and the EU leadership. Don’t lose sight of that when you talk of disappointment and betrayals.
Andrew.. post gb news missed his bbc elite mates..
Populist right.....common sense patriots
You know what you need to do:
Vote Reform UK
And, visit the UK parliament petition website and please sign and share this one: "Close the borders! Suspend ALL immigration for 5 years."
Please share petition far and wide - we need to shock government into doing the will of the people 👍
Poland is doing so well because it has had a right wing government for years!
Not any more
Why not talk about the populist left? We in Britain have a far left, anti monarchy, anti business, unilateralist blood & soil nationalist party in power in Scotland.
Don’t actually mention what the immigrants in Southern France said.
To say that inflation was a surprise is absolute nonsense.
Andrew Neil talking out of his rear. It’s been a long time since he actually thought about anything seriously.
Yeh. Elitist Neil thinks a rightward shift is bad.
Politicians know better is not credible anymore, bring on popular opinion.
Why is it populist right why can't it be people that care about the national identity or just simply there way of life.
The polish election isn't an example of things swinging the other way at all like these so called political pundits irresponsibly say. The formerly governing party is by far the largest party and donald tusk had to do dodgy deals with dozens of other parties to scrape together a small, miniscule majority that is unsustainable. It may perhaps be Polands undoing but I suspect once Tusk proves to be a disaster and unpopular, the already dominant right will recover from the very small swing it has had against it and pick up more support from the Tusk camp.
Populism = Democracy
Get over it media pundits and politicians. We, the people, haven’t been represented for decades. You will pay.