The TermiNOTors - Grading Every Faction's Terminators
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 มิ.ย. 2024
- On this week’s episode, Brad, Eric wanna know which faction has paid attention to the class and brought models that are perfect mimicry of Warhammer’s most known entity: The Terminator.
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Intro
01:10 Our model student: Space Marine Terminators
03:44 Adeptus Mechanicus
06:46 Adeptus Custodes
08:49 Adepta Sororitas
10:28 Grey Knights
14:02 Astra Militarum
15:55 Imperial Knights
16:53 Chaos Daemons
18:30 Chaos Knights
18:47 Chaos Space Marines
19:20 Death Guard
20:16 Thousand Sons
21:23 World Eaters
23:20 Aeldari
24:55 Drukhari
26:20 Harlequins
27:01 Leagues of Votann
28:23 Necrons
30:06 Orks
32:21 T’au Empire
34:04 Genestealer Cults
36:17 Tyranids
38:11 Final Thoughts
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For those who stick around for the credits, do you like the new setup? The effect is cool, but we were concerned people may not like it. Also, when we hit 98-99k subs I'll post the Q&A community post for people to toss questions in and vote for ones they want to see answered. So look for that sometime soon!
Also for those wondering, no we didn't know Auspex would cover the exact same topic on the exact same day. It was bound to happen eventually and with Auspex's upload rate it's bound to happen again. His video was cool too though, go check it out.
Great minds think alike lol
Great video guys, yeah with the amount of every X in 40K videos we both do it was bound to happen eventually :D
I don't know if y'all know each other, but an Auspex/Poorhammer collab would be neat
I'd say tone down the vcr wibbles, they're a bit strong, but otherwise looks cool
Alright, you convinced me. I hatefukked the subscribe button.
Auspex and poorhammer lol
Auspex beat them by 5 hours 😂
I just noticed that 😂
Considering both their release schedules, I would assume Auspex started making that video yesterday and Poorhammer had it planned for weeks already
Yea probably, these guys also have day jobs, Auspex does not.
It's like they didn't unofficial collaboration lol 🤣
Eric is that teacher who absolutely refuses to deviate from the grading rubric. You find a different way of presenting the solution and he’ll dock you marks just for making him have to think it over.
Yeah because that's extra work nobody wants to fucking do.
"Oh I found a new method" shut the fuck up you just gave both of us two more hours of this shit. You need to explain the method and I need to compare it, and that was _entirely_ avoidable had you _just used the_ *Throne-damned* _GIVEN METHOD._
What about: which primarch stat lines would have the best chance against Superman
Love your show
@@sam3drinks Magnus, and it’s not even close.
Superman is weak to magic (IE he gets affected the same way a normal person would), and so Magnus just turns him inside out.
Bricky out here expanding his forehead ripping out hair trying to get them to shill the merch.
Holy shit a fellow dreadnought. How's the sarcophagus been treating you, bro?
Greetings, dreadnoughts of the lake 🫡
@@ManwithaCator "gus"
Brad and Eric: "Tau are the ripoff."
Berellio: "Nah, they're the upgrade!"
Alright, now we need a “Every Army’s Warglaive” just so the Knights can feel happy for once.
Yeah, let's let the knights have something for once
I'd like to see this, haha
I'd love to see my boys and girls in steel get some over
Berillio on tau’s side giving us an A+ is great
I thought it was an error!
I mean Tau melee is just shooting at point blank
He is your FNP 😊
I mean, they could have just gone with kroot rampagers instead, but idk
Knights are that one meme of Sheen constantly bringing Ultralord for show and tell.
"Wraithblades, don't have an invulnerable."
On screen: "Forceshield: Bearer has a 4+ Invulnerable Save"
the tau got an A+ why are yiu complaining
@@tankmlee idk wtf T'au getting an A+ has to do with them getting a completely different datasheet in another faction wrong.
@@461DragonmanI think they’re calling you a weeb? Maybe?
@@internetartpaints3465 idk man I don't even like Eldar, I just wanted to point out they missed the wargear.
They mentioned the invuln at 24:01 🙂
Eric is always so down on custodes, and the fact that hes a GK player makes it so much better because GK and 'stodes are always at odds with each other lmao
Just face it Eric, your grey knights just dont have the luster that stodes do! All that glitters may not be gold, but sometimes its fucking Auramite!
Eric: "It's so strong it becomes something else."
My brother in the Emperor, it has Terminator in it's name. Brad shouldn't have relented for that A-.
@@Argorok87 ^This. "So strong it became something else" is just nonsense. The Custodes Terminators completed their assignment. It's unreasonable to punish them for going above and beyond the call of duty. That's the kind of thing that makes students decide to stop trying and just work to rule. And no one wants that.
I came here to say this.
@@Argorok87 > Poorhammer
> actually saying something that isn't retarded
he argued for Custodes getting A- so had to accept his own Terminators only getting a B. GK Termies are Exactly Space Marine Terminators.
Eric seething over the superiority of Allarus
Brad - 'The worst fate, having to play with Old World players!'
Me, with my dwarven gunline - 'That's going in the Book.' *scribbles*
Me with my chariot legions: Gonna put so many curses on them for that...
I like how the Tau actually got an A+ by editing mistake
yes yes... a "mistake"
The Water Caste infiltrated the editing process and helped the Poorhammer boys see the way
It counts!
Did Berillio make the awesome intro animations for each faction logo? They're beautiful.
Fr Fr. Looks amazing
Yes, he saw The Command Phase's visuals for factions on one of their episodes, got jealous, and spent the next 2 days watching tutorials and whipping those up. Shout out to The Command Phase for the extremely cool visual flair.
Except there wasn’t a Votann one.
0/10 grudgeworthy content
@@reginlief1 Thank you, more ammo to not give him his one meal a day.
@@thepoorhammerpodcast he's still poor? I figured he'd be a 'Brazillionaire' by now. :D
"Every faction's Hive Tyrant"
End Imperio-centrism! :D
Space marines are getting automatic A+ for everything, this is nepotism as it’s most obvious!
Maybe gaunt too
"Every Factions Distraction Carnifex" would make a solid discussion
@@dizzycriminal GSC has to be the Rockgrinder or Patriarch. Love my cult dad, but he gets so much target for basically no reason on the table.
I feel like, based on what i know about 10th, you should do an episode on tank killers. Ostensibly, because i think trying to show off each faction's way to deal with an opponent would be interesting. But actually, because i want to listen to Eric be disappointed in his Grey Knights more.
Last time i was this early, the two missing Primarchs were still here.
Please tell me more about them.
@pancakemogul yes Interrogator-Chaplain, this comment right here.
It sure is odd that we can count to 20 using only 18 numbers.
Fun Fact: in an interview on Jordan Sorcery, a game dev literally said that they try not to give everyone the same things so they can feel more unique (probably why Guard don’t have modern jetpacks and SMs don’t get jet bikes in 40k), and the wraiths were literally stated to be the Aeldari equivalent of Terminators
The next installment in this series should be “every faction’s Main Battle Tank” with the Leman Russ being the A+ example
That could be interesting, especially for armies like daemons or nids trying to find closest equal.
Me in 8th and 9th using the wave serpent as the main tank. And now the war walker, maaaaybe occasionally fire prism.
I clicked the Auspex video thinking it would be this and then was pleasantly surprised to see this uploaded
"thEy'Ve gOt aN ExTrA wOuNd" proceeds to mention it as a positive immediately after for sisters
I mean yeah, because Sisters are fragile as fuck and so it makes more sense in that army.
Settle down custard.
Custodes are just better Space Marines.
Custodes Terminators are just better Space Marine Terminators.
Paragon warsuits are an incredibly fragile faction trying to make a brick.
You're comparing "Daddy's special boys" being better just to be better vs someone trying to catch up with everyone else.
@@borklazer5907 The Custodes did above and beyond the standard in the Space Marines, and should've gotten, at minimum, an A for the bonus points from the Deep Strike given everything else was good. Punishing a faction for being "too good" at it is a stupid statement and should be ridiculed unendingly and forever, because this entire video discusses it as giving grades as teachers.
Tell me, if you turned in an assignment to your teacher, did everything she/he asked, and did it better than the grading rubric's highest score suggested, would it make sense for your teacher to dock you 9 points because you're too good at it?
TLDR; Stop defending stupid bias, it makes you look like an idiot.
I love that Birillio (sorry can't spell) accidently gave Tau an A+ instead of a C+.
A few mistakes like that in there.
yeah, "accidentally" xD
There are no accidents
Damn giving Tau an A+ how generous!
About GK terminators, the spacer trick does work. You will have to shave down the spacers a bit for proper posing, and to avoid having a wasp waist, but even a thin spacer makes a lot of difference.
Also, if you are doing this you will have to add spacers between the torso and the arms as well to broaden them out a bit in order to keep their proportions. The best way to do this is to get a sprue frame and slice a THIN piece out and stick it between the arms and the torso. You won't need much and any more than 1mm will be too much, but it will make the terminators look very good.
Very good advice bro
Yeah it's fairly popular amongst the GK community. I was kind of surprised that Eric hadn't heard of it before.
You can even use like 1 or 2mm plasticard and give oldmarine termies “shoes” which bumps up their height that slight amount
Allarus Custodians are just the terminator version of the Custodes statline, whereas Paragon Warsuits are double the battleline infantry's toughness, quadruple the wounds, faster instead of slower, don't have deep strike, and are vehicles. All the issues Eric had with Allarus Custodians are even more egregious with the Warsuits, plus some more.
Great episode though, can't wait for next week :)
I'd love to see you do "every faction's Primaris lieutenant"
That would be hilarious
Hour long just to cover the _actual_ Primaris lieutenants...
It would be outdated in half a year when they introduce a new Lieutenant
Every faction's Sturmtiger equivalent
@@Calvin_Coolage Ah, but would it be _another faction's_ lieutenant? I didn't think so.
I’m already mad about custodes getting the A- because it’s too good. Good video boys
Shoutout to barellio for those sick army icon vignettes very well done
The Wraithblades I was happy to see, they do really need their Spiritseer leader with them, gives them +1 to hit so hitting on 3s plus Lethal Hits
For the Votann Hearthguard, you CAN get both an invuln and deep strike! Attatched characters also come with a crest wargear option, and you'll pretty much always attatch a character to Hearthguard to get their bodyguard ability. An attatched Kahl can give the entire unit a 5+ invuln (or deep strike, but you get that from the squad leader anyway), or an attatched Einhyr Champ can get the same crest option (personal invul or deep strike).
The fact we have to say "No no, our captain let's the termies get an invul" makes me so sad. Our factions thing is supposed to be slow and tough, but not having a standard invul and trading a wound for a toughness (definitely a downgrade) on our beefiest toughest infantry is borderline pathetic.
@@WarewolfSonic I miss 9th. :c
Meganobz are such Orky fun. Imagining some Mekboy in times past checking out Terminators and furiously taking notes. Then giving his boyz a cooler and sillier name. Good work, Orks.
Allarus Custodians gotta be an A+, absolutely cool fucking model
Omg, I never noticed that the grey knight models have NO stomach, It goes from Chest straight to groin! I can't unsee this, It looks so wrong!
I almost want to offer up Killa Kanz as the Ork terminator. They have 2 wounds too many, one less save, but they have an invuln while still being mostly right for move, toughness, shooting and melee.
I feel like the homework should have been: to be a Terminator, you need +1 toughness, +1 wound, +1 to save and -1-2" move. That wouldve solved the allarus question imo
You said C+ but gave my T'au boys an A+ in the video. Can't take it back now - now you have to do an "Every factions Crisis Battle Suits" episode (which means we'll finally see Centurions in a faction comparison).
Custodes are space marines but better they are perfect in every way for it if they were T5 and 3. Wounds that would be worse than a custodes guard squad so t7 And 4 wounds is 1 extra than a custodes guard squad but tougher. And all custodes have 3 wounds and t6
To grade Necrons' Terminators, you'd have to grade most of their mini range 😂
I see what you did there, nice.
Don't worry, they'll be back
As soon as this video popped into my feed, I knew it was gonna be the day where my darling aberrants were going to get their day in the grading pile. Honestly shocked they shook out so well!
First time seeing a video so soon after posting. Finally TH-cam actually showing me new content from my subscriptions in recommended!
Nice to see the t'-au taking an A+
Berellio's editing gets an A+ Keep up the great work!
The "Space Wolf Terminator" comment on Bloodcrushers destroyed me! 😂
I defy you to come up with a "Grading Every Faction's _____" that you can give both Knights and AdMech an A on.
"Most metallic"
Every faction's AT-ST, get them chicken walkers and warglaives in here
Chasing the auspex video with this one is nice
I thought it would be fun to do an episode on factions "Lone Ranger", a loan operative character that is some sort of blender, I'm thinking Kelermorph, Hexamark Destroyer, or Solitaire equivalent!
Bricky yelling at us to buy merch was GOLD!! Watched it a few times and I'm still laughing
"YOU'LL GET SEX WITH THIS MERCH!" 😂😂
Hi Brad and Eric, have been listening to you guys a lot on Spotify and out of all the episodes you upload my favourite ones by far are the ranking/ homework assignment episodes like this one. Hope there are more to come in the future and keep up the good work
Entertaining from start to finish, as usual! But holy moly, good to know you are NOT teachers... some aweful grading inconsistencies there. As a student I would be furious once again!
Also: Berilio is just knocking it out of the park! Those faction intros are sweet, and that summary at the end... *chef kiss* so good!
Episode idea: Grading Every Faction's Leman Russ (reasonably cheap vehicle that fills the role of a main battle tank and has variable primary and secondary weapon options)
Poor Knights, they can't catch a break here lol.
Damn, no Death Wing Knights? Have Dark Angels not suffered enough?
For what it's worth, CSM has a secondary option (albeit not necessarily A+ material) that they could've turned in, instead of copying loyalist homework.
Possessed. They're huge, chunky, similar base size, 3 wounds, and slap in melee (although mainly due to Dark Pacts and dev wounds). They can't shoot, have too high toughness and speed, and worse save, but that's about where the differences end.
A third, and significantly shootier option, would be obliterators.
Even tho the vidoe has been relised a minute ago, i can assure you ive watched it all and i assure you that its top notch Poorhammer content
The editing this episode is gloriously done!
Nice Auspex collab, lol
For Wraithblades I feel like you need to look at the Spirit Seer - Nobody would ever run them without - In lore or on the table. That way they get Regen and Hitting on 3+ - Also since they are Eldar Infantry they got more movement shenanigans than any other faction, so I feel like Deepstrike would be overkill.
I feel like Eric was wayyyy too pedantic for Custodes Terminator. A-? Really? For being 'too good at terminator'? And you give the Exalted 8 bound who are way different *also* an A-. Or fuck, the Sisters Paragon Warsuit which just also does 'better' terminator.
ive been waiting for this one for a while.
Every Factions Librarian next please.
i want TSons to get an A+ and to highlight how Dark Eldar need something like an Etherial where they have a Homonculus who can weave waves of pain or something.
This is the video we all needed. Thank you for this amazing video. Keep up the good work! 👍
To defend the A- for Votann, if they are lead by a kahl with a rampart crest the whole unit gets a 5+ invuln and then the squad themselves get to take the teleport crest checking both boxes but maybe the fact that you need a character to become terminators docks them points too. Great video!
I love to see every new episode drop. Keep up the good content!
The Bricky cut-in is great.
I got into a warhammer store a few days ago and i was actually tempted to get some Paragon Warsuits or maybe the Nundam herself, but i instead bought a second set of Kataphrons for my Mechanicus army
Eric really looked at a unit with "Terminator" in its name, has the exact stats expected of a Terminator, and is literally just a Terminator, but because it's a Golden Boy he gets pissy.
As a Votann player I feel like Hearthguard should go down a step because 2 wound’s really sucks. There are way more 2 wound weapons than 3 wound weapons, so having a model eat 2 attacks instead of having 2 models dead makes a huge difference.
1 in the morning in aus. Just got my new Tau codex and Kroot army. And then this video...hell yes
My World Eaters friend is longing for the day that 40k World Eaters get the Red Butchers. They are such a neat concept. Heck, I would like to see a Blood Angels version for Death Company.
My theory is GW doesn't want to make them for 40k, because Eightbound but will probably cave to the overwhelming push from the community. Our Terminators don't even have a leader and are trash. Drop them for Red Butchers. But at the same time, I don't know how much different they could be from Eightbound, gameplay-wise. I see Juggernaut Cavalry and Berzerker Surgeons coming out before Red Butchers, in my opinion. Who knows though? Maybe all 3 will drop.
@@woahhbro2906 True, there are only so many ways you can do 'melee killy marine elite'. Personally, I think the solution would be to change Eightbound to better reflect the daemon-side - reduce their durability but lean more into the fun mobility options. Then Red Butchers could be the tankier but slower lot.
@@tiredtortoise3396 Agreed. The two different Eightbound/Exalted units are too similar and look too similar as well. I'd say keep the Exalted Eightbound for anti-tank targets and drop regular Eightbound and replace them with Red Butchers who kill infantry (essentially what regular Eightbound do now)
"Deep striking is important for terminators." ... First entry is admech Breachers -_-
This series is a neat way of showing the math and such underneath the skins: how despite the aesthetic differences many units are kind of the same unit for game purposes across factions
"So they spent all night with the paper mache working on this!" 🤣
I've now watched all your videos over the last month. Just went and bought my first minis ever. Because of my hours of dedication I'm asking that you now validate me and include Kroot in every ranking video. I'm a kroot fan and I'm planting my flag in Pek and I'm never leaving. I don't care how many future battles I lose. I'm kroot forever! Love the vids guys! Thanks for getting me started in this weird hobby.
Knowing that both auspex and poorhammer recorded these episodes prior to the knowledge of each other then released it 5 hours from each other is pretty funny
I love how each faction is talked about like an acutaky student. I think it adds so much more character to the factions.
Just have to say, the notebook with inking and the grades, beautiful, just beautiful. Classy way for the wrap up of the show.
Eric (the grey knight player) being salty at custodes for having the terminators be "too good" made my day.
Thousand Sons have normal terminators (Scarabs), small terminators (Rubrics), fast melee terminators (spawn), and giant terminators (vortex beasts). We've earned that A+
Omg i was waiting for this!!!
Just got done listening to the audio twice.
Now it's time to listen again on the TV
Now they need to grade every factions "indirect fire"/Basilisk unit.
Blud is trying to justify Custodes losing points for having too many HP. That's dumb as hell. "You're doing your job too well, we have docked you points"
Honestly the funny thing with necrons is that I think in lore lychguards are probably bigger than terminators in every dimension, but the nature of the necrons is such that you don't really seem notably large unless you go out of your way to become a massive abomination suited only for battle. The one exception to this is Vargard Obyron, who is consistently described as an absolute unit even by the standards of other necrons. This is actually why they had to make him legends, he was intimidating the other units.
Always the funniest and best takes, best 40k podcast out there 💪
I just put together some 30k Termies. I cut 1-2mm of the sprue they come on and added this as the spacer between legs/torso. Some cork underneath helps too.
Lmao Bricky merch dropping at the end killed me 😂
I love Bricky doing the advertisement. He must have had a lot of fun with that one.
I didn't even realize I was this early until I started reading these comments, well, here's to hoping the necrons score high!
My hope has been crushed and my dreams ruined
I’d love to see a comparison of each factions captain. That mid range unit that often has multiple load outs and even different models sometimes
You should do one where someone who isn't a Space Marine gets an auto-pass. Maybe a caltrop unit? Like the cannon fodder one, but more focused on "My purpose in life is to get underfoot." The Nurgling would be the shoo-in for that one.
Ah yes, sleeveless 8 bound is just plain silly but the thousand sons walking around with a giant sphynx/cobra thing on their head is both sensible and cool 👍🏻😂
I mean yeah, I can get sleeveless angry jocks at any gym, it takes dedication and skill to not break your neck holding up those giant hats
Honestly each factions “distraction carnifex” would be pretty interesting to watch
Next episode should be a tier list of Poorhammer podcasts episodes
I listen to everyone of your new podcast and yet I had forgor to subscribe lmao, you did good remindiçng me to check at the end of the video x)
I would almost have put forwards wraiths for the necrons. Have one more wound and toughness, and move too fast, but they have the invuln and they have shooting that wasn’t worth it until the wargear was free.
Likewise, Ophidians nail the toughness, wounds and deepstrike, but are too fast with a worse save.
I love how the Tau broke into the computer and changed their C+ to an A+ XD
after making it through an hour of your content i did double check at myself being a subscriber, just to make sure i still had reasons to doubt myself
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD AND SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE
What 3D Terminator's were you speaking of at 12:37? What website do I need to search with what keywords?
Loving the A+ stamp for the Tau. Thanks Berillio.
Wraithblades also get bonus durability - stick a spiritseer with them and watch them get back up again once you manage to knock 'em down 😊