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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 เม.ย. 2024
- TANKS ARE SUPER WEAK IN GUNDAM EVOLUTION! Check out this stream video to see my thoughts on the issue and what can be changed to fix it! There's lots to talk about, including health regen, shield vs stuns interaction, shooting while self-shielding, and more!
I hit rank 17 in the Gundam Evolution PC network test, and I'm a top 100, 4500 SR peak Overwatch player with 4 years of hero shooter experience, so you can rest assured that I've got a bunch for you to know in this video!
Time Stamps:
0:00 - Shield tanks suck
3:05 - Self-sufficient as an old person...
6:25 - Fixing Marasai and Melee Zaku
9:45 - Dashes cause problems
13:00 - Shields shouldn't be stunnable
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really hard to sustain sazabi in the front.. I get more value when I flank with it
Same, that and flying in to give their backline a heart attack
It instantly gets deleted if focused to be honest...
@@Dunmuir wherever Sazabi goes it gets deleted #TankLivesMatter
@@Dunmuir it needs some type of shield perk or passive
The lack of healers really kinda hurts the game, I think
The pushing of mobile suits to be self dependent makes people feel like they don’t need healers, but you still do and they didn’t give decent self healing capabilities to the suits that need it the most. Simple things like being able to attack and regen health at the same time
Me trying to learn my mistake while playing
Sazabi: ok I got to be careful watch my surrounding and help my tea-
*get deleted by sneaky barbatos and almost got whole team kill*
Bro for real
I still feel like every character should have minimum 2 dashes. Playing something like Sazabi or DOM Trooper or GM that only has 1 dash that eats your entire sprint bar feels so bad.
If they dashed further then maybe it wouldn't feel as bad, but it does feel pretty bad.
Sazabi can clear entire maps if you use his hover to "surf" the upper geometry of certain walls.
@@theedwardian Yes, Sazabi can do that, but at what cost or advantage? In the middle of battles it still feels bad when you can barely move around during a fight because you can't sprint while holding your shield, you can dash but big whoop, you get 1 short dash every 5-6 seconds, that helps nothing.
@@Shuyin128MK4 Just my opinion but the best way to use Sazabi Axe Surf is to always throw it behind the enemy and dash into it in a chaotic firefight or flanking purposes, that's assuming if your team is near, this will create a very chaotic,confusing firefight where the enemy would likely turn their back to focus on you and get deleted or they don't and get a shotgun laser in the back.
In this game the tanks aren't just tanks but also a sacrificial pawn to create opportunity for your team to push etc, but yeah Sazabi is still underwhelming, its fun though using the surf axe to fly around or push especially in a very open map.
As a Dom (my main) I tend to have the most success trailing a Flanker, armoring them up and using the space they create; rather than making the space myself
I still think it's wack how little beam sabers are used in the game. For how iconic and often seen they are in the anime how little presence they have is odd. It'd be cool if they add a quick melee for all suits that either features a beam saber slash or beam axe
They definitely should’ve had this along with a crouch and just taken away one ability from each mobile suit. They all have one weird one that doesn’t really belong anyway
I think the biggest problem with Marasai is how hard it is to tell he is going to use his hook unless you are staring at him and know it’s off cooldown. Other mobile suit stuns (minus ults) have a sound notification and or a wind up that notifies enemy players that they are about to be stunned if they don’t react in time.
I had the same thought and my solution was to make the hook that has a charge up to use.
I feel like the ult uptime for this game is nuts cuz of the ult costs. Like ash and ranged zaku get ult so fast cuz you just put out so much damage
Could make it so heals give ult charge like paladins
A good buff to the heal is to give Metthus two repairs cables and if you want to be controversial 3 repair cables. Mainly 2 because it would definitely help tanks have better sustain.
The one is fine, just needs the option to split between two targets at the same time but the trade off is you get half the healing when doing so to two different targets as opposed to how much would heal just one team mate. The animation already shows 2 tether cables going out as they attach to someone, so it only makes sense in the heal splitting.
damn I was just reminded how bad I was doing in that game, I swear the shields seem only useful in 1v1 fights and not team fights
They’re very bad in team fights 100%
Fun fact is that the camouflage for the sazabi is a reference to a comic called revival of zion called the sazabi b type I think. It was designed by Kazuhisa kondo and it’s beautiful. Only if we could get customizable weapons so we could get Tauf machine huh for the sazabi
Like I think tanks or shield mobile suits are useless because they're Soo many character that can bypass or ignore shield such as barbatos, zaku 2 melee, zaku 2 range ult, exia and especially rx gm.
Yep so many stuns to have dealt to them
There's too many stun moves I main Barb and it's honestly just cheap hope the balance changes make him more challenging to play for the same results I think if I had to work a little harder for kills it be more enjoyable
Sheilds in this game feel like blocking a tank shell with a plank of wood when a Barb decides to slam stun you or Exia dashing through for a backstab. Also, shields break very easily under focused fire from 2 or more mobile suits especially if they have decent clip size and rate of fire like Zaku ii ranged or Asshimar.
"Heavier" mobile suits should be resistant to some of the bullshit in the game like stuns...
Definitely need some changes
They need to give tanks a faster HP regeneration off combat, especially Sazabi. Sazabi's issue is that you are too dependent on healers. As for Exia, just nerf its dashes, reduce it to 1 maybe or have flankers with reduced dash regeneration. Also, just remove stuns on flankers. Zaku Range don't have a stun outside of ult, just remove the stun on Exia. For Barba, remove at least 1 stun since Barba is a melee.
I think Sazabi needs more shield and more health and get health back for successful throwing axe hits. Or it gets health AND shield back if you land a throwing axe. Methuss also needs to be able to heal faster if they aren't going to increase it's health or damage.
as a forever main tank in any game this fill me with pain
Question: what does he need to be in a good spot?
We’re cursed to be main rank players lol... Sazabi needs to be able to block stuns with its shield but not shoot and shield at the same time
I have a bit of a hot take but it might be a good idea. Seeing as this game's way more fast-paced, why not allow shields to regenerate as soon as you put the shield down? Or maybe, keep it the way it is but increase the rate at which shields regen?
This next one is less specific but, I understand that keeping to the lore of the game is also pretty important for a gundam game, but maybe giving the devs more creative liberties might help with game balance.
Im having so much fun with GE and i hope they get better with game balance cause i and so many others dont want this game to die out
Buffing shield regen time isn’t a terrible idea tbh, but they just need that ability to defend against cooldowns somewhat too
perhaps making Sazabi and other future """tank""" mobile suits immune to stuns, while also nerfing the gundam hammer to not break shield even if theyre lowered might fix the issue. that way you can make sazabi feel tanky without just doubling its hp or something.
It needs to lose its ability to shoot and shield though with this or it’d be very strong
@@Dunmuir Shields imo should eat softer forms of CC, like for example you can step in and shield the marasai's net so he doesn't yoink someone, that way you can effectively bodyblock for your team and seal off chokepoints, but then you lose to harder CC/Guardbreaks like Hyper hammer. That way it creates the rock/paper/scissors triangle and tanks can feel more useful. Right now outgoing damage is so high that your shield basically gets insta melted vs more than 1 person which is a little bit of a problem for a suit that also has the lowest mobility and the biggest target profile in the game.
@@Dunmuir What if shooting while shielding made you vulnerable to stuns? Still too op?
i noticed alot of sasabi just throw ax behind a group or whoever to get the rush damage its only like 100 but you can hit multiple ppl not sure if it turns tho think it does im not sure
shield are probably like the most useless things next to Mahiroo, almost like everything can go through it / disable it which take like 6-7 seconds to get it back.
Let's hope there will be quicker or more regen, passive healing while standing next to each other, more health, more healer gumdums or a mix between this things then you can keep these movement things and must not nerf them.
Sazbi's shotgun is what lets him down. The gun can barely even deal much damage at what could be considered near close quarters and even when in CQC the bullet spread is so extreme that the damage is still decently shit for the low ammo.
Imma be straight up, melee zaku should not pierce through shields imo but id be cool with him and marasai having more tankiness. As for the dashes on flankers like ranged zaku exia, they could either take away a dash or make the cooldowns on them longer and dash for a shorter distance. For barb id say make him into a cool brawler instead of an assassin since it would fit lore wise and make him bearable to play against. In regards to stuns yeah they need to look at those since I play alot of gm and sazabi and I really can't do my role if the whole other team has stun abilities.
Nah fam, if you take away a dash from Zaku ranged, he’d be literally Weak & Slow all together, also no ADS. That 3rd dash he has is the only thing that lets Zaku be a Zaku. That’s what pale rider is for, 2 dashes, ability to aim accurately w/ ads (close or far range) and 3 good skills. With 100 hrs so far, My only concern is for zaku melee to be worked on, reduce all skills cooldown of turn a gundam , less hook range for marasai and lower cooldown maybe 2 seconds, & slightly increase rate of fire. And give rx78 a 3rd dash too, he jus feels empty for some reason & make GM’s detonator bomb better some how
I’d like it if Sazabi had an alternate weapon instead of just straight up losing the ability to shield and shoot. Also more alternatives for tanks. Currently we got Sazabi and kind of GM. The rest are necessarily good for tanking.
Tanks are garbage in this game at the moment
@@Dunmuir I hate to say this but I don't think this game will last to long in this state no crossplay crappy rewards routes for free players questionable balance to many issues
Hey! i just wanna ask what's your opinion on the growing number of cheaters in Gundam Evolution?
Haven’t played against any yet so I don’t have a strong opinion on it
@@Dunmuir ok, thanks.
@@yamazakinozaki9804 but, if more and more cheaters show up. Then the game’s quality will just go down further. And people will lose confidence in the game and it will die more
@@Dunmuiri played one match and there are several cheaters earlier and were working together. One was pale rider who use aim bot and unlimited stamina. It makes the game very bad if the devs won't do anything about this cheaters.
@@yamazakinozaki9804 they did seem to be working on that so we'll just have to wait and see how good they are about stopping cheaters. But it can be hard to interpret the true state of things from what companies say often
Ima laugh if they add in units with a I-field generator xD...also the Sazabi is supposed to have missiles in its shield
14:13: *gets hit mid sentence*
Dunmuir: Alright. These kids are dead. *proceeds to wipe team*
Omfg tru xD
We gonna pray for the balance change to be good
We are for sur
they cant wait another 40 days to implement them though :(
Waiting for Gundam Heavy Arms and Virtue as new tanks.
There are too many skills that can instant remove the sheild, makes ms like Sazabi not as tanky as you think.
I often see comments like 'Oh Sazabi has 1400HP plus 1400 sheild it's tanky as fuxk'
Said that again when your loss half of your HP pool in 0.5s because your sheild get wracked by a random skill.
Lol exactly. So weak
I feel like tank can be good in the game by reworking stuns and piercing dmg. Stuns and pierce can still exist but the stun time and amount of shield ignoring damage needs a nerf
Definitely need a rework
Increase tank classes hp/armor and increasing healing received, reduce damage.
I do think tanks need a buff. but for me I feel like I briefly felt like they suck after playing a tank in overwatch 2.
To be fair, Sazabi can literally FLY so him not being your traditional tank works fine. When your team is defusing a bomb his shield lasts the perfect amount of time to protect them.
Fly and do what? Be an ineffective damage dealer
I think tanks should have a decreased down time whenever they’re stunned
They should for sure
Shield recharge needs to be faster imo
Regen would feel far better if it were percentage based. All characters would have the same HP downtime.
After playing OW2 for about 6 hours ish in total, compared to OW2, GEVO Tanks are really weak. The tanks in OW2 are uber strong lol.
To be fair the tanks are buffed from what they were, but even then they could fundamentally do their role while they can’t in gun evo
Yep playing as Sazabi you def get sandbagged by every ability in the game.
100%
Well not all ultis are that powerful, Ashima punch is kinda meh... Methuss without a decent player around is just pick a random person and buff it, well like i pointed.. Marasai is fucking awesome to play with, but a royal pain in the ass to play against because the one shot combo, also hate melee zaku because it has too much mobility and he is supposed to be MELEE why he's shotting waves nonstop ???
Asshimar ult is a one shot on any suit it wants and can team wipe, it’s busted
@@Dunmuir Seriously ? every time i use it deals atm half of the hp of a guntank.. i felt the punch was way too weak and risky for a hit and run unit like ashimar, i gotta try it again because i was picking other units more often
0:11 is hilarious
- half of your health is gone to begin with
- your shield is down
- you make an aggressive dash based on nothing but an inclination
- other team sees this and has the audacity to shoot at and kill you
- this is apparently the games fault
Overwatch brainrot at its finest. Healers and tanks ruined Overwatch, role lock and 5v5 are proof of that.
Guy has 34 kill streak and says the mobile suit sucks ??
Yep
When you have good tanks you get the overwatch problem of hour long soak fests.
Nope, they nerfed the crap out of tanks and yet GOATS was still perma meta. Tanks can be strong but they won’t be oppressive if the sustain numbers aren’t high. Which they are not in this game, meaning “strong tanks are the issue” is just a symptom of the sustain problem