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- People love break open rifles around the world, so I thought we would look at some single shot break-actions. I compare the H & R Handi Rifle system, the Mossberg SS1, and the superb Thompson Center Aristocrat. The break-action is known for its compactness and ease of handling. Come see if you agree!
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H&R shotguns and Handi Rifles need to come back...
Amen!
Iverjohnson, Winchester and others
Yes...and soon
Henry and Rossi currently offer single shot riles.
@@AugustusLarch Neither is as nice, affordable, or as accurate as the Handi-Rifles. The handi rifles also came in more calibers and configurations.
I always thought H&R had that patented back in 1871, simple yet elegant. Not long ago, after season an H&R in .243 was sitting at local Dunham's for $180 - not for long, my lucky day.
Always informative and interesting! Even though being a 60+ year gun collector I still learn something new every time I watch one of your videos🙌
Thank you! I also learn something new about firearms just about every day. All the best.
Do you actually believe that I've never seen that to be so not in my area anyway it's bolts and semis and the occasional pump shotgun thrown in pump rifles never gained a following like the lever action and I've seen a big swing to semi and bolts about half and half anymore seldom see a lever or a pump anymore and never a single shot@@UnitedStatesOfGuns
The 'Aristocrat' was 1983 version of the TCR (TC Rifle). The Hunter (1987) version of the TCR lost the double-set triggers, hinged take-down lever (replaced by a simple bolt) and had a checkering-less stock. Early frames had to be sent back to the factory for modification to handle magnums. Production of the barrels continued for some time after the rifle was no longer offered, however that also stopped after a fire at the factory.
Great looking rifles. I recently bought a CVA Scout Rifle in 35 Whelen. It's a heavy stone. I always enjoy your presentations. I would like to see T.C. make a strong comeback. Take your time and heal. .
Remington shut them down ( bought the competition )
Years ago i picked up a series of hardbound books on classic single shot rifles at Westley Richards back when i had money. Today im poor and am not a collector anymore having sold off most. If you dont have those volumes your welcome to them for sake of the channel.
That's so kind of you! Please email me at usogbyemail@gmail.com
The books would be great for the channel.
That's the first I've ever seen one of those Thompsons. Looks like a great rifle. Now I have to find one!
This is a fascinating, in-depth look at three fine single-shot rifles. I'm one of the many people who had never heard of the Mossberg, and I'm certainly glad to know about it now. The Thompson is and was very handsome, and I hope that the company returns to its former glory in the near future. Keep up the great work--and get well soon! Best, Chris (in Maine)
Hi Chris! Great to hear from you - thanks for the good thoughts and words!
I have a New England Firearms HandiRifle in .45/70. It’s incredibly accurate. Tolerances seem to be very tight AND it has an excellent trigger. It’s amazing how accurate these rifles are in general.
I agree - very high accuracy per dollar ratio - and everything else about them is excellent too
Always interesting firearms that aren't the new AR or new plastic pistols.
I have a Henry single shot rifle chambered in 223 it’s has nice wood and very accurate
That's an ideal chambering
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Agreed. I think a single shot 223 is the most economical.
A fine choice of subjects, Mike. Very informative, much of it new to me although I own break open shotguns. Both the T/C and the Mossberg were new to me. Thanks, Mike and I wish good health, Joe
I've not seen the Mossberg or T/C before. Excellent video!
Thanks for watching!
I love my H&R shotguns mostly my 10 gauge Magnum 3 1/2 inch Magnum model 175 full choke 34 inch barrel and my one of a kind H&R rotating action hammerless singer shot 6 gauge 33inch barrel goose gun
Thanks, Mike!
Had a H&R Handy rifle combo in .22 hornet & 20 gauge. Still kicking myself for selling it.
Uh oh...I've done that....many times. Fortunately - you can buy again : )
Excellent video. You've got stuff no one else really shares on.
Thank you
Robust, simple and elegant, a great action.
Chris
Another single shot tragic here , multiple Martini cadets , H&R handi .222rimmed and Baikal MP 18 in 7.62x39. Baikal had a horrendous trigger and filthy internals from factory but nothing that couldn't be refined with determination and patience 😉. Martini action is my favourite. ✅️🇦🇺
I look forward to your posts and appreciate the time & effort you and your team put into each vlog .
Thanks for the note and for watching - the Martini is excellent and a fine choice for "favorite." Cheers.
Great show! I love single shots!
Awesome! Thank you!
Them are some awesome rifles, of course H&R is a shotgun like you said, but I do have one in 243 nice rifle and I have a Savage in 30-30/ 16 ga. And hopefully a ruger number 1 in 270 soon.
My shooting club had an old but good break-action 22 target pistol by Webley ( model 1909?). They were all confiscated and chopped up so quite rare now. The elegant, slim action could make for a nice little rifle.
Thanks for another great video.
I have two of the TCRs, one in .32-40 Win and another with a SSK custom barrel in .375-06 JDJ. Had intentions of getting several other odd-ball barrels but after the fire, there were no monoblocks to build custom barrels on.
Good on you! The 32-40 is very rare - such a fine cartridge - thanks for the note
2 of the first guns my husband taught me to shoot were break actions. Both Harrington and Richards. A 25-06 Handy Rifle and a 20 gauge shotgun. Easy to understand, load, unload ,clean,aim and store away. Best type for a beginner shooter.
Thank you for the note. Fine husband IMHO - fantastic action; great round too. The 25-06 is a hardly talked about - yet it does everything well and has for decades. 20 Ga is exc - as you know. All the best to you two.
I wish my dad was still alive so I could show him your channel. He would get so much enjoyment out of watching your content. I really appreciate your take on classic rifles. It seems everywhere I look its the fastest newest most expensive whatever. I dont mean to demean you by saying I really appreciate your simple take on all the firearms you show. Its so refreshing to watch your videos and I really love your take on firearms. The value is in the history and I dont mean the money value. I dont really know exactly what Im trying to say here but Thank you for refreshing the values of the firearms that I grew up with and the memories of those firearms with my dad
Your words are golden. Thank you. Your dad has only gone ahead on the trail and waits for you.
There's a lot to be said for simplicity. The TC Aristocrat looks incredibly strong and dependable. I particularly like the ease with which a break action can be visually checked for obstruction and demonstrably made safe.
You're correct - the design is as good as it gets; except it isn't a repeater : )
Hey Mike, It’s me again. Another fine educational and entertaining presentation! Glad to hear you’re on the mend. I’m having another hip replacement surgery next week. I’ll be completely out of commission again for awhile so you’ll have to get out and shoot as soon as you can to entertain us all who can’t.
The first muzzle loader I had was an H&R Huntsman 45 caliber. Same break action design as the Handi Rifle, but used a removable breach plug with a nipple for the standard percussion cap. The breach plug was held in by an O ring if I remember correctly. The negative was the plastic trigger guard which was easily broken. Same for the two piece brass ram rod. Later I had a stainless heavy barrel Handi Rifle in 22-250. Traded it for something higher on my list. The Shikari 45-70 was the same design. I think you did an episode on that rifle.
TC got cheaper through the years. For muzzle loaders they were at the top of their game (for factory produced muzzle loaders) with the original Hawken and Renegade rifles. I still have my 54 caliber Renegade. 120 grains FF Black Powder behind a 400 grain Maxi Ball is still a big thumper. I never heard of the TC rifle you showed here.
My favorite single shot on my want list is the Savage 219 in 30-30 and other chambering. I remember the video you did on that one. For your new viewers I urge them to find that video. Happy hunting boys and girls!
So good to hear from you again. All thoughts and prayers for success and not too much pain with that surgery; you'll be better than new : ) The Huntsman is such a fine rig - actually I like all muzzleloaders - I just haven't got to them yet - for the channel I mean. The 219 is really special - thanks for reminding me. Well, I have to run but all the best - as always my friend.
Hi Mike, I truly enjoy the videos on the single shot rifles. Very interesting and informative, Thank you!
I'm glad you're here - there are more types - I'll get to them - take care.
owned H&R and cbc break action 22 hornets years ago
Superb and practical cartridge - fine idea in a SS.
H&R coming back? Be still, my heart. The Topper, 88, 088, HandiRifle series was, IMHO, the best shotgun ever - inexpensive, accurate, & reliable.
Hello - Yes - this is what I was told. I can't see why not - these are always in high demand - and needed by people just about everywhere. Thanks for the note and take good care.
Big fan of the single-shot rifle, and you also !
I appreciate your kind words. Thank you so much and all the best to you.
Thanks for sharing. You are a wonderful teacher.
Thank you 👍
Great video Mike.
My CVA inline muzzleloader is the same principle and highly effective. This Mike
Another great - glad you have. Cheers.
Thanks Mike!!
The hammer swings and the striker slide in a straight line. Both are powered by some sort of spring .
Thank you
Very interesting, thank you.
Very interesting. Never really considered these break open ss rifles before.
Everyone and their break-open H&R in the world just saying "yep." And those of us with break-open longuns, AND pistols going "double yep."
The TOZ-34 o/u shotgun has a very fascinating hinge system, instead of a hinge and barrel, it has two machined crescent shaped extrusions on the barrel, that match machined grooves on the frame. Its a very smooooooth system.
Great post - the TOZ 34 is about my favorite O/U mainly due to that system. Thanks for describing - not many know.
You're looking well Mike; it's always great to see you and to learn from your films! Get well Soon!
Your Fan,
Lou B
Thank you Lou! Hope the Spring is bringing some nice things your way. God Bless.
Great video hope your feeling better take good care of yourself. I love single shot rifles.
Thank you - I'm doing my best with a lot of help : ) Aren't they just fantastic - the SS I mean. And in the field I've always loved aiming and knowing " Okay, this is the shot - have to get it right." - nothing quite like that. Take good care.
@USOG hey mike, no mention of the savage 219? that's an amazing american single shot tipping barrel
Thanks for the reminder. I guess we made a couple of Savage .219 videos already but I should make a new one. Cheers.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Get well soon
Very very glad you’re doing better Sir 🙏🏻
Thank you!
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Your welcome
I just bought a tranter action single shot jeffery rook rifle. Quality action from the 19th century
A great find! Good on you!
@UnitedStatesOfGuns When the Smith tightens the 50, 100 and 150 leaf sights I'll make a video of it in the rook rifle event at the local competition. It's interesting because it also is an ejector. Original calibre was 297/300 rook but was resleeved for 22LR
I'm just curious: is there any stronger, fixed barrel double gun? With falling block, rolling block, or similar actions? Break actions biggest issue is the hinge pin, which can come loose. Anyway I just love them.
Me too - and if the hinge pin is robust and done right they last and last. I'm glad you mention the double rifle - still the finest hunting rifle - just so expensive. A shot a double rifle in .300 H&H - what a dream rifle - the bullets converged at 200 yards.
As I understand, hammers have pivots, strikers do not.
That is correct! Whether one piece or two the firing pin is surrounded or inside a coil spring which is parallel to the bore of the barrel. Trigger and sear assembly connect in various fashions to release the spring to drive the pin into the primer. Savage model 99 rifle is striker fired design.
Thank you both
Good day, I recently watched a video on Springfield 1903 a3 (your videos) and came across one without looking it's very clean, high serial number. It has a scope on it , gentle man that had it passed on I've been searching on it and like what I've seen I believe that the price is reasonable (I think would list it but only if I had a private way to do so) also has a Remington 5mm, w/100 rounds and as I search freedom seeds can be an issue do to limited run on manufacturing. Recently came across your channel and you are very knowledgeable, thank you for your information and videos you post 👍 God Bless.
Thank you for your kind words. I try. Your Springfield is a lasting value and a wonderful rifle- of any kind - to own. The 5mm is fantastic! I have 2 and bought a lot of Aquilla ammo so I can shoot. There is ammo around. Good health, good shooting and keep in touch!
Good day and thanks for your response, I should have said that the Remington is a 592m, the other was gotten for 4 decades and 5 years ago 👍 I'm continuing watching your videos, thanks again and I will eventually come across some freedom seeds 🙏.
Which is your favorite single shot?
I know the answer!
It is the one you are holding when you are asked!! You appreciate them all, and, like one’s children, it is impossible to pick a favorite.
Pleased to see you are looking so healthy and strong. Keep at it!
Thank you - I'm feeling better and hope for a full recovery. I like the Hagn best and for break opens the Aristocrat is hard to beat - but you're right : it is like choosing among children. All the best to you.
ide love to have a ruger no 3 action just hangin around lol. the h&r and the nef handy rifles are probably the easiest and most affordable options. there's something about a good single shot rifle. and being able to use several dif barrels on the same action is always welcome. a 20 inch 12ga cyl bore for cutshells and slugs a 28 inch mod for birds and one in 357mag just for fun,lol. ive got a topper88 that in going to go over and refine the stock and fore end. ive the time that the manufacture didn't have for lil details here and their. ill probably go ahead and weight the stock while im at it, a couple pounds of lead should do it. good times!
I like your project - the lead should definitely make things interesting : ) If you can find a SS in .357 : what a useful rifle. The .357 easily handles most hunting to 100 yards and the ammo is reasonable - so is recoil and noise; and you can always use .38 Special for smaller jobs. Cheers
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns ive got a can of h110 and a bunch of 125grn 148 grn 158grn bullets. and ill keep my eye out for some 180 grn hard cast. i love the 357mag!
The TCR is among the best balanced production guns ever! Too bad they weren’t great sellers.
I agree
Interesting, trying to define the difference between a hammer and a striker. I would say a striker is linear in its movement and not fixed to the gun, while the action of a hammer is orbital and is fixed to the gun.
I like that. In school I was told the striker system does not include a pivot point and the hammer system does. I still think about it.
Ah, the Ruger does not have a striker, it has a hidden hammer and therefore has slow lock time, compared to a striker fired firearm. I used to build rifles on these actions for customers.
Thanks for the note. I remember chatting with a Ruger engineer years ago and asking/suggesting if they could reduce the arc of the hammer to reduce lock time; maybe I sent a drawing or two. They had thought of that already and he said the benefits would bot justify the costs - with Pine Tree and all. I understood. It's pretty good. All the best.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Until I bought one in 5x57 and was able to dismantle a Ruger No1, I had presumed that it was striker fired and was disappointed to see the heavy hammer and complicated firing pin transfer lever. That and the awful position of the sliding safety put me right off owning one. My single shot action of choice is the Martini, either the large frame or Cadet and I own several in calibres ranging from .17 Nickal to the 500 No 2 cartridge ( which is the equivalent of your 50-140 Sharps ). The lock time on a Martini is one of the fastest around and they don't suffer from fussy forend bedding. Cheers from downunda. 🍻
I have multiple calibers and gauges of barrels for my handirifle setup. However what I don't is a vent ribbed 12ga barrel or that matter on any of my shotgun barrels. So if you get tired of that barrel let me know.
Mountain man
: ) Okay MM - I can't keep them all
You should have had a rolling block also
Great idea
Hi. Mike. Would you consider parting with the Aristocrat? Alan, Alberta, CA.
Hi Alan - I can't keep them all. Please write me usogbyemail@gmail.com
Is the difference between the TCR83 & TCR87 a double trigger and a single trigger, respectively?
I'm sorry I don't know. I've seen several of each and the features vary.
When T/C came out in the sixties (at least that is when I first became aware of them with their black powder line) they evoked a similar reaction to the H & R offerings. To me they were ugly, awkward looking. The underswing hammer of the T/C muzzle loader was not for me when compared to the flowing lines of the Kentucky or Tennessee rifles. I guess first impressions can be the most important because even today I find that Aristocrat to be ugly with its sharp edges where the action ends and the barrel attaches and again on the lateral lines. They just seem too rudimentary as if they couldn't be bothered to blend the lines. This will become apparent quickly as it destroys 'hand feel' when carrying the weapon. Compared to the Ruger and Mossberg both of which have a dignity and an attraction to the eye because of the flow and finish of the steel, the T/C is not something I could be attracted to. Even though the fit and tolerances seem excellent it will not overcome that first impression. Another interesting video! Sorry to hear about your "medical emergency", I hope all has mended or is mending.
Thanks for taking the time to write. Always good to learn from viewers. For sure the Ruger is in a different class. The Henry single shot is quite good; I owned one in .243 and another in .350 Legend - quite accurate and very well made. Hopefully more quality single shots coming to market; with inflation a break open single shot could be the best way for younger people to get a rifle/shotgun and out shooting and hunting. They're quite safe as well. Bye for now.
Any suggestions on where to find any 8x68mm s ammo in the US?
Try here
www.collectorsfirearms.com/search?controller=search&s=RWS+ammo&category_dropdown_id=All+Products
If they don't have; they may know who does. If all else fails - RWS in Germany makes 8x68 - as you likely know - a dealer can bring in for you. Hope this helps.
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Dear Sir
I have an early that I think could be called a Brno Mk1 .22 rifle. Mine is different and basically as new condition but has the words TGF on it and is a parkerised Matt black finish.
I bought it 30 years ago with a 5 rd and 10rd magazine.
Can you help tell me anymore about it ? I was told these are the x Czech rifles made for training the Nazis and as the war ended where hastily assembled and sold to the west ??? I’m in the uk 🇬🇧 and would love to know more about it.
Happy to share photos if you would like to see them.
Keep up the great channel.
Interesting post. I knew a BRNO .22 collector who had around 150 BRNO 22s. I don't know where he is or I'd call him; but I found some of my notes. From his exhaustive research and interest the Model 1 was designed earlier than is generally known - with a prototype which apparently is at BRNO already in 1941. By 1943 the model was underway and by 44 "in production." The TGF means Tscheckische Gewehr Fabrik - which means Czech Weapons Factory. You're right - these were German training rifles. Some of the Model 1s had more German markings than others; or maybe some markings were polished off of some after the war. Some safety differences - don't know what that means. I guess maybe some were hastily assembled but more likely they were in arsenals or still being made when Russia defeated Germany with Allied help; as you know many ended up on our side of the pond because that's what happened to most "German" et al guns of all kinds one way or another from that time. Anyway that Model kept on going and my Chinese copy of it - which I use often - is in that line. You have a fantastic .22. Sometimes there are markings that the stock covers. Hope this helps. All the best.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns
Many thanks for taking the time to reply, it has German markings on and with two magazines 5/10 rd and in amazing condition it is fabulous. I also have two mint condition Gevarm .22 the short auto and the long.
If you would like to see some photos let me know. 👍
Thanks again Rgds. Darren
Ruger#1?
you made me smile...I knew you were going to mention the TCR... one of my favorite rifles is my TCR 83 Aristocrat . in 22-250 , 243 , and 30-06 . I agree , it is a german Pirsch Kipplaufbuechse made in USA ! It looks soo similar to the Gebruder Rempt Remo model K it's not funny !!!
: ) You're way ahead! A superb, superb rifle! Those barrels are gold!
PizzA
Hi. I sent you an email through the email provided by youtube. Essence of that email is: wondering what you think are the best made and most accurate (potential thereof) standard bolt actions (mass produced / standard production) with a traditional walnut stock
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