As crazy as it sounds, that quote was what changed my mixing game. I was always taught to never be dramatic with EQ when I went to school for it. "3db boost or cut should be fine, you don't need to do more than that". Watching CLA EQ drums and vocals and making big moves like a 9db boost was the wake up call that transformed everything.
@@TM42 Both are important things to understand. Don't overdo things that sound good already, but you don't have to limit yourself to small adjustments if that's what something needs.
@@sebastianlindon8992 Absolutely, I agree wholeheartedly. But when you're just starting out and being told what I was told early on while working on less than ideal recordings (done by other students), it would have been beneficial to have Chris's advice. I've since gone back to those recordings with what he's said in mind and it's changed the overall product dramatically. But you're right, both are important to understand.
.@@TM42 Your teachers were either stupid and didn't really have any real world experience with only ever reading blogs o mixing or they were always recording top musicians with top equipment in the proper acoustic environment and knew how to use the equipment perfectly to not have to touch tracks basically at all. EQ first and foremost is a tool to correct the sound at the end of a chain of multi variables. From how cose you stand, the effect to the eq curve the mic has built in to the tone of the person's voice. You then fator in variables like how good the person's ear and recording techniques are which in your case was likely shit as you said the tracks were from other students. So there really is no rules except fix what sounds like shit. Sometime there's a lot of shit on a track you need way more than just 3 db cut to get it out especially in a world were a lot of people track themselves now and then send it to get mixed. The tracks usually fucking suck and need a good amount of clean up.
You know the dude is truly a real engineer, because he starts all sentences and doesn't finish them... The best engineers I've ever worked with did the same thing!!!
@@mluwakwashezi LOL. Because mixing is multitasking, as soon as he says something, his mind goes "hey lets fix this, lets eq this that way etc". My mind is always erratic after a day of mixing 🤣
@s dee exactly. even in film audio school they taught me not to eq in solo. once you've begun your mix, you're in context. before that it's all about creating one. in a film it can be your first scene, or maybe even a loud part in the middle of the movie. for music, you'd want to go off your loudest/most defining elements
Excellent on all counts (the drummer, the studio, the eq choices, the compression choices, the communication with the artist, the drivingly positive & confident attitude, and the final result... and, last but not least, the video: not just crumbs of a teaser, but long enough to be informative, and with the settings & choices recaps in onscreen graphics, instead of just quick flyby shots)! 👍👍👍
I was trained to track like this but lately have been doing more and more in the box. Watching this really makes me miss just getting hands on! This is really the best way to make a track come alive in my opinion, especially with drums! You could see the excitement in his face as the frequencies etc. started to line up and that's what we aim for for the listener too.
Honestly Chris might be my favorite engineer to watch. I know some people don't like him because they say he can be a little critical. But, I think he's just been doing it so long he knows exactly what he's doing. I also think he's just real and tells things how they are. Which I love about people. No sugar coating or babying. He's just an honest and real dude. Great video guys really interesting to watch!
@WorldRenownedCFE But I don't see you doing it. Plus this guy has been doing it for more than 30 years. I was literally just leaving positive feedback. There's literally always one guy in the comments like you.
@𝕎𝕠𝕣𝕝𝕕ℝ𝕖𝕟𝕠𝕨𝕟𝕖𝕕ℂ𝔽𝔼 💪 What a stupid thing to say. I guess all those astronauts and nuclear physicists are just a bunch of 'knob turners' too 😂Anyone who assumes a lack of complexity in a field of work they know nothing about has got to have a pretty low IQ. Also, it makes sense you're a sovereign citizen aswell, explains the Dunning-Kruger / main character complex shit you got going on
@@kurtzon that critical troll probably uses garage band to record if that. Losers always jealous of others that are successful. Rather than criticize he should try to learn from others who have done it but that’s why they’ll always be losers and winners.
@@niallmurphy272 charlie puths studio and studio A is next to it where "we are the world" was recorded it was owned by charlie puth but now he has changed his place he works with manny marroquin an excellent mixing engineer
Capitol Studios in Hollywood sound awesome. Just about every major artist has recorded there. Every piece of vintage and modern gear is available at the Capitol Studios. Plus the ambience, the lounge, and the general atmosphere makes puts the artist and staff at ease. Great place.
My $0.02 on drums - Don't discount time spent *tuning the kit*... and the value of a good sounding room! You can try to eq a wonky kit in a bad room all you want, and will never get close to this.
I got an $80 used kit off Facebook and gutted an RV and track everything in there. Put new heads on, tune it up, nice mics and an audio eng. Degree. Sounds great. I've seen drummers record outside and it sounds fine. Treated rooms are mostly for the placebo effect to tell your brain it has to sound better. When it comes down to home studios.
@@DrSamEWith close miced drums on a kit, those 57s are pointed right on those heads. Then i put a gate on the them, sounds clean and punchy, any four walls will do. I have a degree in audio engineering, Im not just playing a guessing game. Those walls will help during mix down & mastering through monitors.
I'm struck by how casually he throws those Pultec knobs around while I agonize over 0.1 dB changes. Obviously CLA has massive experience behind him, but still... reinforces the importance of just using my ears.
LOve watching CLA best videos i have found. So clear and really just love watching him work. So much fun to work with good musos properly tuned gear. Such great and loaded with knowledge videos!!!!!! subbed!!
I found it interesting to hear the complete sound at the end of the video, then go back to the start again to remind myself what the sound was like at the beginning.
Very impressive! It's great to see an amazing drummer and a legend engineer come together and make magic happen like that! Those drums were sounding incredible after 7 minutes or so in! Oh my god! 🎛️🎚️🎶🎵🔥
this is what you call experience vs. experience period. Like Chris said when you have a great drummer it falls into place and the drummer is like when you have a great engineer same thing. It goes hand in hand.
He makes it look really easy, well, I guess it's easy when you are working with top level musicians at a top level studio with top level equipment. Hope that one day I'll be in that place.
the gear ain't what makes it easy for him. Although having a great drummer is the most important thing, Chris could make a great record without any of this great gear or facility. Give him any mic, any preamp, any DAW, crappy tracking room, etc.. and he will make something better than you or I could make in a 20 million dollar studio. It "looks easy" for CLA because he is incredibly good at what he does. don't get it twisted.
It look easy because Chris knows well what kind of eq, compression, gain in, etc etc to use for every kind of situations... trust me, it's not the gear or studio, that is just for speed up the workflow...
Top class musicians? Yes Easy because he has good gear no. If you dont know what you re doing it doesnt matter the gear. He's just a top level professional
This is great! I've been watching a ton of mixing/recording videos from various people and learning a lot but this one was a game changer for me. "Never be shy with the EQ" I was always making little moves and trying to make room for things. This is the opposite. My drums sound better, my guitars sound better. Like I said, game changer.
Wow!! This man dominates that studio like a great conductor does with a 40 piece orchestra! I'm from the day when the engineers at some of the big studios in New York used to spend hours tweaking the drums to a point that we all became disenchanted about cutting tracks once we got the green light to do so. It was no longer fresh.
Couldn't believe how much impact and raw energy it had by the end of the mix (tracking mix) . One of the best ever demonstrations I've found of an analog mixing process using outboard gear and a proper mixing console. I enjoy using the software emulations of popular analog gear. Particularly Scheps 73 (Waves Neve 1073 emul), Softube CL1B, CLA 76 and the Waves SSL E-Channel. But they don't have the same effectiveness and oomph that a hardware unit could provide. But with my current budget they've still served me very well, as I don't have the thousands of dollars to afford the real thing, as i'm still a student. CLA's a legend at his craft and a great teacher too. Not to mention the talent of the badass drummer too :) Great video guys! I can't wait to get enough in-studio experience to even try to get close to his level of talent.
I’m a singer/song writer/drummer/guitarist. This has inspired me to work on my placement of mics, and the utility power of eq. I hope tour video makes lots of money, but I just wanted you to know that YOUR video inspired me to work harder on my recording, and the value of a solid drum sound. Thank you.
@@FanaticDrummer yes it would if you gain stage it right. if you wanna add 10dB on your eq and your signal's pretty hot you can always turn trim it down or use a gain plugin. digital needs a totally different approach and i guess that's why ppl tend to snob digital cuz they don't wanna change their old techniques. both are great!!
@@FanaticDrummer Hmmm, that one I would be interested in getting some expert takes on. There would definitely be somewhat of a sonic difference, like any eq, but from my understanding; the difference (after the pre-amp and properly gain-staged) between processing through hardware and software is going to be almost imperceptible. There is enough bit depth in a 24-bit track that unless you're trying to increase frequencies/volume by A MASSIVE AMOUNT with software, it'll be very similar to doing the same in hardware (where things like noise are more of an issue than any software artifacts). Though I would love to hear from a pro out there if anyone is reading this.
@@prOkrEAt is that really a real thing cuz I feel like that would introduce a lot of phase. I already seen this episode and he only cut some flabbiness on the toms and kick I think. if I can remember he did cut a bit on the pultec but that's push-pull. what im saying is he still added a ton of EQ when he mixed this track on the episode following this.
I used to hate it when some young ex-university type would be engineering and doing these tiny tweeks of the EQ which we could all hear made zero difference to a mix especially when everything was in but he would try and convince us that HE could hear something that we couldn't like he had these magic super sensitive ears. What a bunch of bullshit and so nice to hear this guy saying don't be shy with EQ and doing big bold changes that did make an audible difference.
This is the way I learned to record drums. Same mics, same EQ points, same everything. Simple and classic. It just works. I was even taught to pan the drums backwards like he does. I've learned to fix that one issue.
It sounds amazing. Nowadays drums sound thin and too clean. Everyone is so precious about not introducing any noise to their recording, it's ridiculous - we're making music, not scientific measurements!
The thing is : the goal is to always make it better than it is. So if you start with something real good you can make something amazing. If you start with something "meh" you can only make it good. So yeah you could do nothing and have a good sounding mix but you could also put in the effort and make it an amazing sounding one
It's a good point, it would be interesting to see him go into a crappy local studio with an average kit/drummer and cheap desk/outboard/mics. I'm sure he'd kill it, but it wouldn't sound anywhere near as good as this where the room, the kit, the drummer, and the mics/channel strips are giving you every possible advantage
As I understood, seems that Chris mixes the drum pans according to the Viewer, right? I mean... he puts: HiHat on R, Tom 1 on R, Floor Tom on L Something like that? Am I right?
Such a key take away from this video is getting the sound right going to tape. With all the plugins out there we've become such a "fix it in the mix" generation. Use the tools you have, EQ the hell out things, compress to tape, etc with the higher quality outboard gear (or in this console) first, and commit. That real air in the top end of the Neve EQ, the thump in Pultec, the smoothness of the 1176, etc.. is something you can't recreate with a $29 Waves plugin after the fact.
This is true, but at the same time plugins give lots of us access to tools that we would otherwise never be able to afford or use. Of course the actual hardware will always be superior to software tools, but unfortunately many of us don't have the spare money for that kind of equipment.
This is an extremely useful and informative video but they forgot to mention the most crucial aspect of this recording: having a fucking good drummer! This dude knows exactly how to hit properly
I wonder if that was all in realtime or if there were made some cuts in the editing. If not, then CLA just dialed in an entire Drumset in 10 minutes. Thats a man who truly knows his way around the Studio! Also this video shows how important the communication between the engineer and the musician really is. I think these little comments from CLA into the talkback ("You Rock! etc...") really go a long way, so the drummer doesn't feel left out of the process.
@@buddyxxx2951 so what are you trying to tell here? That 10 minutes is actually way to long? That CLA is just average in knowing his way around the studio? I want to know.
@@creativical You should have stopped at the first question. The next 2 are a reflection of what you would do if you were in my position which do not belong to me. Since you asked I answer the only real question, the first. What I want to say is that it took him 10 or 20 years to be able to find the right formula + knowing everything about the board and the outboard gears he uses, for a quick mix, that's why I said come back in 10 years as you would understand better and maybe be equally capable of doing what he does.
Full video available exclusively on mwtm.org/cla-another-minute
"never be shy of using the EQ... thats what its here for"... LOVE IT!
My favorite line ever! the possibilities are endless at the end of the day!
He’s a mix god.
Holy shit!!!! That’s a BIG drum sound!!!
Hahaha yessir!!!!
Chris is hilarious, I remember once he said “we can turn it all the way up, nobody’s going to die”
As crazy as it sounds, that quote was what changed my mixing game. I was always taught to never be dramatic with EQ when I went to school for it. "3db boost or cut should be fine, you don't need to do more than that". Watching CLA EQ drums and vocals and making big moves like a 9db boost was the wake up call that transformed everything.
@@TM42 totally- if it sounds right it sounds right
@@TM42 Both are important things to understand. Don't overdo things that sound good already, but you don't have to limit yourself to small adjustments if that's what something needs.
@@sebastianlindon8992 Absolutely, I agree wholeheartedly. But when you're just starting out and being told what I was told early on while working on less than ideal recordings (done by other students), it would have been beneficial to have Chris's advice. I've since gone back to those recordings with what he's said in mind and it's changed the overall product dramatically. But you're right, both are important to understand.
.@@TM42 Your teachers were either stupid and didn't really have any real world experience with only ever reading blogs o mixing or they were always recording top musicians with top equipment in the proper acoustic environment and knew how to use the equipment perfectly to not have to touch tracks basically at all. EQ first and foremost is a tool to correct the sound at the end of a chain of multi variables. From how cose you stand, the effect to the eq curve the mic has built in to the tone of the person's voice. You then fator in variables like how good the person's ear and recording techniques are which in your case was likely shit as you said the tracks were from other students. So there really is no rules except fix what sounds like shit. Sometime there's a lot of shit on a track you need way more than just 3 db cut to get it out especially in a world were a lot of people track themselves now and then send it to get mixed. The tracks usually fucking suck and need a good amount of clean up.
every time they switch to the drummer I think it's CLA in a wig LMAO
😂😂😂😂😂
OMG ... hilarious! 😂😂😂
Exactly what I thought lol
cannot unsee it now...DAMN IT!
I scrolled down to find this comment and here it is 🤣
You know the dude is truly a real engineer, because he starts all sentences and doesn't finish them... The best engineers I've ever worked with did the same thing!!!
LMAO😹😹😹I wish to know why they do that...
@@mluwakwashezibrain is overpowered
@@mluwakwashezi LOL. Because mixing is multitasking, as soon as he says something, his mind goes "hey lets fix this, lets eq this that way etc". My mind is always erratic after a day of mixing 🤣
@@asor8037 yooo ay🤣🤣🤣🙌🏻
7:22 MIX
0:55 Kick
1:22 Snare
2:25 Bus Limiter
3:58 Toms
5:42 Hi hat/Ride
6:09 Room Track
Isso devia estar fixo no video auhahuaa
Is it right that he boosts 5 at 20hz and 7 at 8k on the Pultec?
2 minutes in and it already sounds better than 90% of sampled mixes
It's rather easy getting drums to sound crisp and punchy in solo, but that quickly fades away when embedded into a dense mix
@@nenntmichbond BURY IT!
@@nenntmichbond yeah but those drums are fire my guy.
whatever
Room, mics, drums and cla. If you got those then you’ll get it 😂
instagram music producers: "NEVER EQ IN SOLO, NEVEEERRRRR"
CLA:
Lol, most of them are just a joke.
It's true. 😅😅😅😅
what? So how do they hear those minor things? I think this is a "new-school" "knowledge"
"One Simple Trick to Get Great Drum Sounds"
@s dee exactly. even in film audio school they taught me not to eq in solo. once you've begun your mix, you're in context. before that it's all about creating one. in a film it can be your first scene, or maybe even a loud part in the middle of the movie. for music, you'd want to go off your loudest/most defining elements
Excellent on all counts (the drummer, the studio, the eq choices, the compression choices, the communication with the artist, the drivingly positive & confident attitude, and the final result... and, last but not least, the video: not just crumbs of a teaser, but long enough to be informative, and with the settings & choices recaps in onscreen graphics, instead of just quick flyby shots)!
👍👍👍
absolute
It's so exciting to see how every instrument comes alive when the ingeneers start to do their magic. I love that part of making a record.
"I have had this shirt since '85. And it still fits!" 😉
I like how he's not shy with the buttons! Like if he's going to boost 7-8k he goes up 6-7 or even 8db! I love his aggresive style when mixing drums :)
Sound is king! I tell people all the time, stop mixing with your eyes. Listen and adjust until it sounds right.
These guys look like two friends who showed up to a Halloween party unknowingly both dressed as Wayne Campbell
😂😂😂😂
Hahahahaha
😂😂😂
HAHAHAHA
Is that Wayne's world?
In 5 minutes flat he made it sound like a Green Day record. He definitely has a sound.
I know he did Greenday, but these sound as big as Led Zeppelin.
That's because is mentor on recording tracked led zeppelin. In the interview with beato he talks about it, quite interesting
@@nicologumina8444 I think he learned from Bob? (And he even used that studio?) Did Bob mix any LZ?
@ I’m going to guess that he remixed a lot of LZ due to him doing a ton of those 70’s and 80’s compilation albums that were popular in the 90’s.
in 5 minutes? It took him years to find the right formula he's using on every record. Also, the desk and the gears make the sound.
6:11 when he brings in the room track... Wham! Wow, what a sound!
I was trained to track like this but lately have been doing more and more in the box. Watching this really makes me miss just getting hands on! This is really the best way to make a track come alive in my opinion, especially with drums! You could see the excitement in his face as the frequencies etc. started to line up and that's what we aim for for the listener too.
Honestly Chris might be my favorite engineer to watch. I know some people don't like him because they say he can be a little critical. But, I think he's just been doing it so long he knows exactly what he's doing. I also think he's just real and tells things how they are. Which I love about people. No sugar coating or babying. He's just an honest and real dude. Great video guys really interesting to watch!
If he's so critical then he's the person I would want to learn with
@WorldRenownedCFE But I don't see you doing it. Plus this guy has been doing it for more than 30 years. I was literally just leaving positive feedback. There's literally always one guy in the comments like you.
@𝕎𝕠𝕣𝕝𝕕ℝ𝕖𝕟𝕠𝕨𝕟𝕖𝕕ℂ𝔽𝔼 💪 What a stupid thing to say. I guess all those astronauts and nuclear physicists are just a bunch of 'knob turners' too 😂Anyone who assumes a lack of complexity in a field of work they know nothing about has got to have a pretty low IQ. Also, it makes sense you're a sovereign citizen aswell, explains the Dunning-Kruger / main character complex shit you got going on
@@kurtzon that critical troll probably uses garage band to record if that. Losers always jealous of others that are successful. Rather than criticize he should try to learn from others who have done it but that’s why they’ll always be losers and winners.
That room sounds crazy good
Studio B at Capitol records
@@niallmurphy272 charlie puths studio and studio A is next to it where "we are the world" was recorded it was owned by charlie puth but now he has changed his place he works with manny marroquin an excellent mixing engineer
That was my exact thought when he solo’d the room
near 100% he's got marble room reverb on that track
The drummer is kickass. That sure helps make this sick drum sound even sicker.
Mr. CLA is fantastic. The master. I'm glad seen he working and creating this amazing drums sound.
I had my doubts in the beginning but wow, just wow.
Awesome CLA is a total inspiration.. I use his tips and listen to everything this man has to say
he didn't say much here.. Oh, he likes his Fairchild..
Great player, amazing kit (selected and tuned by the LA drum doctor), amazing mics and gear, and one of the best mix engineers alive. Lovely!
Capitol Studios in Hollywood sound awesome. Just about every major artist has recorded there. Every piece of vintage and modern gear is available at the Capitol Studios. Plus the ambience, the lounge, and the general atmosphere makes puts the artist and staff at ease. Great place.
Thanks I like your choices. Great punchy and natural sound. Great musician too.
When he brings in the overheads you hear what money can buy
Couldn't agree More
I been doing music for 25 years and every time I see him work makes realize how much I still know nothing. Humbling!!
That is a freaking great drum sound....great room, drummer and engineer.
My $0.02 on drums - Don't discount time spent *tuning the kit*... and the value of a good sounding room!
You can try to eq a wonky kit in a bad room all you want, and will never get close to this.
Yeap, dressing the turd is what every TH-camr does with plugins for days!!!
Yep. that is most of this video. Room/Drummer/Tuning
I got an $80 used kit off Facebook and gutted an RV and track everything in there. Put new heads on, tune it up,
nice mics and an audio eng. Degree. Sounds great. I've seen drummers record outside and it sounds fine. Treated rooms are mostly for the placebo effect to tell your brain it has to sound better. When it comes down to home studios.
@@mattjwatson5089 Good rooms are good rooms, they need scientific desing to be good. Some panels in a room, is not ”good room”.
@@DrSamEWith close miced drums on a kit, those 57s are pointed right on those heads. Then i put a gate on the them, sounds clean and punchy, any four walls will do. I have a degree in audio engineering, Im not just playing a guessing game. Those walls will help during mix down & mastering through monitors.
I'm struck by how casually he throws those Pultec knobs around while I agonize over 0.1 dB changes. Obviously CLA has massive experience behind him, but still... reinforces the importance of just using my ears.
this💀💀
Analog is much more forgiving then digital. It's almost hard to go wrong sometimes with real gear.
Absolutely love that video. CLA is doing a fantastic job, but let's not forget to give props to Brent Fitz, unbelievable drummer !
LOve watching CLA best videos i have found. So clear and really just love watching him work. So much fun to work with good musos properly tuned gear. Such great and loaded with knowledge videos!!!!!! subbed!!
that soundcheck is better than my whole drum mix :3
I can't believe I didn't know about this channel before! Crickey! Absolutely amazing 👌🏿👌🏿
Watching from Uganda 🇺🇬👊🏿🖤❤️
Is there anything more delicious than some great grooves, mixed and EQ'd well? So listenable.
Great drummer and the room sounds KILLER!!! Thank you. 🖖
What a collection of great gear, and a 670 fairchild to boot!
One day, I hope i get the chance to even be half the man you are CLA. You inspire so many of us! Thank you!!!
Better start eating 😂
Mr Chris he is exceptional!
So good rock sound.. it would be great to work with Chris ! \m/
I found it interesting to hear the complete sound at the end of the video, then go back to the start again to remind myself what the sound was like at the beginning.
Very impressive! It's great to see an amazing drummer and a legend engineer come together and make magic happen like that! Those drums were sounding incredible after 7 minutes or so in! Oh my god! 🎛️🎚️🎶🎵🔥
@@musiccalgary More than amazing. I wish I could play like that!
this is what you call experience vs. experience period. Like Chris said when you have a great drummer it falls into place and the drummer is like when you have a great engineer same thing. It goes hand in hand.
EQ's sound beautiful
Made me so happy I'm still smiling
Chris is the goat of mixing, everything he touches is gold.
Thank you for including the written description in the video for us novices🙏
"Overheads, that's the whole picture of the record." Interesting way to think about it. The space is the place where we will experience the art.
He makes it look really easy, well, I guess it's easy when you are working with top level musicians at a top level studio with top level equipment. Hope that one day I'll be in that place.
Trust me... that room, and drums tuned like that.. pretty easy. Little compression and basic EQ.
the gear ain't what makes it easy for him. Although having a great drummer is the most important thing, Chris could make a great record without any of this great gear or facility. Give him any mic, any preamp, any DAW, crappy tracking room, etc.. and he will make something better than you or I could make in a 20 million dollar studio. It "looks easy" for CLA because he is incredibly good at what he does. don't get it twisted.
It look easy because Chris knows well what kind of eq, compression, gain in, etc etc to use for every kind of situations... trust me, it's not the gear or studio, that is just for speed up the workflow...
I got sit in on a mixing session with him and he works super fast and commits to decisions really quickly. It was pretty inspiring to watch.
Top class musicians? Yes
Easy because he has good gear no. If you dont know what you re doing it doesnt matter the gear.
He's just a top level professional
This is great! I've been watching a ton of mixing/recording videos from various people and learning a lot but this one was a game changer for me. "Never be shy with the EQ" I was always making little moves and trying to make room for things. This is the opposite. My drums sound better, my guitars sound better. Like I said, game changer.
Wow!! This man dominates that studio like a great conductor does with a 40 piece orchestra! I'm from the day when the engineers at some of the big studios in New York used to spend hours tweaking the drums to a point that we all became disenchanted about cutting tracks once we got the green light to do so. It was no longer fresh.
I truly LOVED this. Thank you!
Couldn't believe how much impact and raw energy it had by the end of the mix (tracking mix) .
One of the best ever demonstrations I've found of an analog mixing process using outboard gear and a proper mixing console.
I enjoy using the software emulations of popular analog gear. Particularly Scheps 73 (Waves Neve 1073 emul), Softube CL1B, CLA 76 and the Waves SSL E-Channel. But they don't have the same effectiveness and oomph that a hardware unit could provide. But with my current budget they've still served me very well, as I don't have the thousands of dollars to afford the real thing, as i'm still a student.
CLA's a legend at his craft and a great teacher too. Not to mention the talent of the badass drummer too :)
Great video guys! I can't wait to get enough in-studio experience to even try to get close to his level of talent.
I’m a singer/song writer/drummer/guitarist. This has inspired me to work on my placement of mics, and the utility power of eq. I hope tour video makes lots of money, but I just wanted you to know that YOUR video inspired me to work harder on my recording, and the value of a solid drum sound. Thank you.
6:15 you know he has to :,)
Epic:)
Man they sound so good!
weirdly enough, when he mixed this session he still added a ton of EQ. CLA is a madman. i love it haha!
Analog headroom and signal quality is essential. Digital EQ would never hold up this well.
@@FanaticDrummer yes it would if you gain stage it right. if you wanna add 10dB on your eq and your signal's pretty hot you can always turn trim it down or use a gain plugin. digital needs a totally different approach and i guess that's why ppl tend to snob digital cuz they don't wanna change their old techniques. both are great!!
@@FanaticDrummer Hmmm, that one I would be interested in getting some expert takes on.
There would definitely be somewhat of a sonic difference, like any eq, but from my understanding; the difference (after the pre-amp and properly gain-staged) between processing through hardware and software is going to be almost imperceptible. There is enough bit depth in a 24-bit track that unless you're trying to increase frequencies/volume by A MASSIVE AMOUNT with software, it'll be very similar to doing the same in hardware (where things like noise are more of an issue than any software artifacts).
Though I would love to hear from a pro out there if anyone is reading this.
He cuts everything he boosts here and boosts everything that was cut. It's called reciprocal eq technique.
@@prOkrEAt is that really a real thing cuz I feel like that would introduce a lot of phase. I already seen this episode and he only cut some flabbiness on the toms and kick I think. if I can remember he did cut a bit on the pultec but that's push-pull. what im saying is he still added a ton of EQ when he mixed this track on the episode following this.
These drums sound amazing
Killer! Starts with the kit sound in the room.
CLA is The best! Brazilian fan here!
I used to hate it when some young ex-university type would be engineering and doing these tiny tweeks of the EQ which we could all hear made zero difference to a mix especially when everything was in but he would try and convince us that HE could hear something that we couldn't like he had these magic super sensitive ears. What a bunch of bullshit and so nice to hear this guy saying don't be shy with EQ and doing big bold changes that did make an audible difference.
I wanna watch this whole sesh!
It’s interesting how much better the room sounds than all the heavy eq’d mics
He has the Fairchild 660 & 670, look gorgeous
This guy I have up running on my studio speakers while mixing my own productions...A/B comparison....thank you! Mixing with the masters!
I've been dying for something like this thank you
My God!!!This is so beautiful!!!
This is the way I learned to record drums. Same mics, same EQ points, same everything. Simple and classic. It just works. I was even taught to pan the drums backwards like he does. I've learned to fix that one issue.
It sounds amazing. Nowadays drums sound thin and too clean. Everyone is so precious about not introducing any noise to their recording, it's ridiculous - we're making music, not scientific measurements!
6:17 "Let's see what this thing does!" -Any engineer ever
Idk what happens at 7:16 but whoa that snare comes alive! The ring is perfect
room mic / overheads turn on
the HH mic was solo'd then unsolo'd
Kick In: Sennheiser 421
Kick Out: Shure Beta52a
Snare Top & Bottom: Shure SM57's
3 Toms: Sennheiser 421's
OH's: AKG EB c414's
Mono OH: Neumann U48 (in cardioid)
Ride & Hi-Hat: Neumann KM84's
Far Room Mic pair: Neumann Tube U67's (in cardioid ~18' feet away, and ~10' high)
lol. the hi hat mic.
I love CLA's approach. "what's the worst that could happen? no one is gonna die..."
Isn't it effortless when you have a great room, great mics, great board And gear
The thing is : the goal is to always make it better than it is. So if you start with something real good you can make something amazing. If you start with something "meh" you can only make it good.
So yeah you could do nothing and have a good sounding mix but you could also put in the effort and make it an amazing sounding one
A wealth of experience != "effortless"
It's a good point, it would be interesting to see him go into a crappy local studio with an average kit/drummer and cheap desk/outboard/mics. I'm sure he'd kill it, but it wouldn't sound anywhere near as good as this where the room, the kit, the drummer, and the mics/channel strips are giving you every possible advantage
This is fantastic material!
What a lovely passion job
That was mint as hell, the man does not fxck around
Superb. What a sound, what a drummer!
With Brentz Fitz on drums, drummer of slash and the conspirators =)
I knew I know that dude from somewhere...:D
Also known as Severus Snape
@@HeathClark you're a wizard drummer Harry
awesome sounds very nice
I don't know what he's doing but i love watching it.
Wicked, CLA, Lord of all Mixing consoles! 🤣
Love watching this stuff!
CLA mixing and drumming at the same time.
That sounds Fukin great!
Pultec for the overheads 😱.....pure gold.
The way he touch the knobs.. Its so impressive
I love recording/mixing drums!!!
Amazing sounds, as always, and a literal masterclass in tasteful rock/pop drumming.
"I have a Fairchild, and it kicks ass. So why not use it?" LoL Well said.
Great tutorial! Every engineer can do this and get great drums.
As I understood, seems that Chris mixes the drum pans according to the Viewer, right?
I mean... he puts:
HiHat on R,
Tom 1 on R,
Floor Tom on L
Something like that? Am I right?
You can hear what he's looking for. Gold nuggets here!
Oh the guys awesome. Gets results soo fast
Awesome! Thank you Mix with the Masters! 🔥🔥🔥
Wow 👏 this is incredible
Such a key take away from this video is getting the sound right going to tape. With all the plugins out there we've become such a "fix it in the mix" generation. Use the tools you have, EQ the hell out things, compress to tape, etc with the higher quality outboard gear (or in this console) first, and commit. That real air in the top end of the Neve EQ, the thump in Pultec, the smoothness of the 1176, etc.. is something you can't recreate with a $29 Waves plugin after the fact.
This is true, but at the same time plugins give lots of us access to tools that we would otherwise never be able to afford or use. Of course the actual hardware will always be superior to software tools, but unfortunately many of us don't have the spare money for that kind of equipment.
But we have all those things as plugins now.
Hey, is that Brent Fitz on the kit? He's played in a lot of bands including Slash & Gene Simmons and he's from my hometown!
Really fantastic lesson!
This is an extremely useful and informative video but they forgot to mention the most crucial aspect of this recording: having a fucking good drummer! This dude knows exactly how to hit properly
Did not know that CLA was such a good drummer ! 2 Thumb Zup !!
I wonder if that was all in realtime or if there were made some cuts in the editing. If not, then CLA just dialed in an entire Drumset in 10 minutes. Thats a man who truly knows his way around the Studio!
Also this video shows how important the communication between the engineer and the musician really is. I think these little comments from CLA into the talkback ("You Rock! etc...") really go a long way, so the drummer doesn't feel left out of the process.
Have you ever mixed anything in a studio like his?
@@buddyxxx2951 I have, but I am not as experienced, I definitely need more time than that! I'm only a student who has done a few projects for uni.
@@creativical come back to this video in 10 years time if you keep pursuing this career...and leave a comment
@@buddyxxx2951 so what are you trying to tell here? That 10 minutes is actually way to long? That CLA is just average in knowing his way around the studio? I want to know.
@@creativical You should have stopped at the first question. The next 2 are a reflection of what you would do if you were in my position which do not belong to me. Since you asked I answer the only real question, the first. What I want to say is that it took him 10 or 20 years to be able to find the right formula + knowing everything about the board and the outboard gears he uses, for a quick mix, that's why I said come back in 10 years as you would understand better and maybe be equally capable of doing what he does.
This is just amazing!