The "TikTok Rapper" Curse
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Today, we talk about why TikTok has become a curse on HipHop and its not just me giving my take, we look at what artists who directly benefitted from the app's existence talk about their thoughts on the platform, and the answers are pretty shocking in some cases.. as always guys, thanks for watching! Please like and subscribe if you enjoyed!
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Bro ur content is amazing the tik tok accent is annoying as hell
Bro really said Goated was a Denzel Curry song and not Armani whites 😭🤣
Tiktok is A fast way to the top, and faster way to the bottom
Mostly because it dosnt build a true fan base in most cases
Some ppl do benefit hard and made them become successful, but I'm sure those are businesses that sell products
Vs being a music artist where the artist has to have real fans to support there careers in order to stay relevant
For Music artist it's just tuff because most of the consumers are kids which aren't old enough to buy your merchandise, concert tickets etc.
So sure your streams is doing good but when you book shows that 1 million followers is proba like 100k spread around the world if that makes sense
Even artists like Lil Nas X are starting to have a downfall
@@JoppingBen10Fan Most Music artist overall have short careers in terms of being relevant
After 3-5 years fans start to lost interest in your music mostly because it's disposable music
it's cheap music that dosnt have staying power to beomce a classic
Very Few become the big names in the industry
@@JDBass36 true, I feel what made Lil Nas X start to fall is overdoing his MONTERO gimmick, as it isn't shocking a second time around
this is why when you see rappers who’ve been grinding for years in the underground like carti and travis scott they tend to say mainstream longer
The funniest situation is where the tiktok artists end up having a concert and the crowd only knows the 5 lines of the song that blew up😂😂like i feel so bad for them but its a bit funny
steve lacy got this treatment the WORST 🤣
😂💯
@@mya.xoxo_I’ve tried to listen to his music & couldn’t get into it😭
@@tinicoleofficialhow???
@@devineggins4 Steve lacy's kind of like jack staubur not everyone thinks that it's good
Tiktok definitely did a ton of damage to the music industry. Now labels use that as a metric to find new "stars" and it's delusional
Coi goes crazy on tiktok but it doesn't translate into billboard and sales. Her self titled album sold what? 9k? Triple plastic 😂😂
Love the quotes around “stars”. Bc what they are is trendy moments. Labels give them a bit of change, sign them to 5 albums, recoup all the money off their one hit, and tuck em until they get another. And if not, they made all the $ back, plus profit, anyways.
@@b.carter1110 yup the label figured out the code lol
Exactly they are lazy and cheap don’t want to find real talent and invest in artists
The industry has been damaged long befoe a single social media app including myspace, Ya'll are just now catching on
“As a feature on Lil Yachty’s ‘Never Lose Me’”
The disrespect 😭
Right 😂😂
Word, that’s her song in which a lot of artists made a remix off of .
he said that about Armani White too! 😭😭
""As a feature on Denzel Curry's 'Goated'"
😂 he barely can pronounce the artist names right & don’t get me started on pronunciation of albums. He dont know what he be talking about half the time.
@@PCKLEZZ yikes
I mean it makes sense why they fall off when their audience was originally people who aren't even old enough to buy rap concert tickets or albums and by the time they're old enough they've grown out of things. this is why underground rappers can make a living because they have loyal fans over droves of followers
have you heard of spotify
@@chilli-boiis that a soda brand?😮
@@chilli-boi Spotify doesn't pay the artist well
Spotify who?
@@chilli-boiMaking playlist has the same effects. What attracts people to an artist in the long run is listening and buying records. All the great artist are known for making great albums. Singles and EPs are not enough, I don't care how popular you are.
Flo milli was XXL freshman before tik tok viral success. That buzz came from TH-cam.
She used TH-cam like you Louaista
I don't believe that Flo Milli should be put in the same category. Her goal dosen't seem to be TikTok fame and I think even dissed people who are chasing that. She definitely has a drive to be the best period not just popular. I see her constantly working and I'm like "dang, she working".
Thank you!
TikTok just ruins a bunch of great songs by speeding them up and it makes the quality of the track worse it ruined CARNIVAL, Bad Habit, Kill Bill and much more. All these new gen rappers goals are to make it big on TikTok and make the money, no ambition to become the best and received as the greatest of your generation but the most popular artist who doesn’t make much good music!
Carnival was always corny
So true. If it's not speeding up, it's slowing down, or probably the most unnecessary, crappy remix of an existing song. I'm so glad I don't use it
@@mrlean5078 fr
@@scenicdragon808 word
bad habit and kill bill are still dope. but carnival was ALWAYS fucking horrible.
Flo Milli is not a TikTok artist. She is modestly popular on the app. Beef was viral on stan twt and Instagram. She's been out with building for years. Never Lose Me is her song as well
Had no idea Coi Leray was still relevant
Coi leray has made some good songs recently like self love
Eminem mentioned her
I honestly didn’t know either but then again I never checked for her……..EVER!!
She was relevant?
@@Matt-yj1lz I think he was just trying to spite Benzino.
I can’t be the only one who never use Tiktok
You're not, trust me... Unless you're 10 😂
Why is that a flex
@@kazmiller7195 'Cause we ain't rotting our brains.
Me lol I'm a 41 year old with a life tho
@@rogerhutcheson7281more adults use it than kids
Faygo still got more of a fans base and makes better music than most of these TikTok one hit wonders
too bad he doesn't know how to structure a song
more of a fan base? he’s one of those tiktok one hit wonders, how is he gonna have more of a fan base?
@@tonedavincihow he be structuring his songs?
@@Rodeojane his songs sound all over the place like he’s just throwing flows at the wall. Which is what most artist do, but he’s bad at sequencing them
@@tonedavinci ok I see what you mean
Tiktok can make an artist blow tf up
But to stay relevant in rap game you gotta make a core fanbase and got to have an unique style. But tiktok blowup rappers lack that. Another thing is now that mainstream artists are trying to make songs that are suitable to tiktok sounds. it's destroying the art ngl. Tiktok is somehow a curse more than blessing:-)
It’s a blessing as people get to know what’s hot and what’s not other than that tik tok won’t affect it as if tik tok goes down there will just be another app to take its place
Nah tik tok da goat homie.
Tik Tok like it's being stated is a blessing and curse for sure
Idk how exactly you can find the balance as a artist to not be purely labeled as a Tik Tok artist but it's one of the best platforms to get your name known
I feel like today's world of music and trends has watered down the art of many things and in some cases ruined things all together
Again just not sure where is the perfect balance to blend the 2
That's why it's getting banned
What you not gon do, is play in our faces, and say that the CERTIFIED PLATINUM SINGLE" Never Lose Me, was a Lil Yachty song.... This is and will forever be a FLO MILLI song...Tf..
That's what I'm saying. She wasn't a feature. It was her song. That's why sometimes I really don't take dude seriously cause he's churning out these videos one after another and I don't feel like he's doing actual research.
Milli is such a good rapper and amazing without tiktok , i know beef blew her up so so much but she has so many other good songs if people give her a chance. she is one of my fav female rappers. disappointed in u saying she was a feat on “lil yachty’s ‘never lose me’”. the disrespect is crazy dude
This comment right here
That's what I'm saying. In my opinion her and Flyanaboss shouldn't be on the list because I feel like both continuously work on their craft. He also said Flo was a feature but it was her song. So don't take everything he's saying seriously.
Fr, I fked with her heavy! I love her.
I like her music. I got a few of her songs on my phone 💯
because these videos aren't really made by rap fans. They only know what's popular
Never heard of half the artistes on this list. 🤣🤣🤣
Not “artistes” 😂
U are probably from africa😂
That's for the better😅
@@Bellasosa1they not that popular
im so happy ive stayed away from this awful app. im convinced this is one of the main reasons so many great artists get stuck in the loop or get canceled.
Dont let this distract you from the fact soulja did it first
He was the first on TH-cam but not on TikTok
@@BandileOnTVc’mon bro. keep up
@@BandileOnTV
Bro really can‘t read between lines
Underrated comment
@@jkthegreat5687if we're talking social media across the board, Cudi did it first on myspace lol
One hit wonder is better than being unknown forever; think about models, actors, actresses who never had that opportunity to go viral or earn their $m. These music artists should be grateful
💯agree❤
2016-2019 music was better off without tik tok, music was known for being original not sum "10 seconds of fame" watered down music, there's nothing wrong with achieving popularity on tik tok but making it for that purpose is mediocre .
SoundCloud was where rappers blew up before tik tok 😂
It was SoundCloud before TikTok came along
2014-2018, 2019 it started going downhill quickly
I think the issue with TikTok popularity is the artists that blow up on the app don’t have core fanbases to substantiate their hype, like the reverse example I say is yeat. He blew up massively because of TikTok but he already had a built in fanbase so he didn’t fall off when the TikTok hype died down
I think you missed Tyla. Water was a huge success for her and her new songs will most likely not reach up to it. But she is trying to escape and I think she might soon have a dedicated fan base
Na it ain’t happenen tho
most of her fan base is still at home. that's why she cancelled her american tour, she's not breaking out like she'd expect to.
Tyla cancelled the tour due to an injury that has worsen not because it isn't selling well ...@@ChriseansLostTooth
She does have a dedicated fa nbase but I don't see it for her in America
bro never lose me is flo milli's song, also flo milli has had so many hits on tiktok but the problem is where artists like doja cat got a lot of support, people really didn't support flo milli the same (which some have said might be because of colorism) but seeing how she's been getting really huge support from fellow rappers like Megan Thee Stallion, Latto, and Cardi B I feel like she's getting there.
nah louasta didnt know u needed that bag that bad bro didnt even say its 18+
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my biggest flex is that i don't--and _NEVER WILL_--have a tiktok ,
and i've heard of not ONE ☝🏽 of these "rappers" , ruining an entire genre. 😮💨🤦🏽♀️
Thank you!!!! Tiktok is for kids 80% of their users can't buy 🎶 "Ah, Ah, Ah, Ah, Alcohol!" 🎶 😂🥃🍺🍾🥂🍹🍷😂
Amen
14:51 "Never Lose Me" is her song bro
tiktok has ruined music ngl
Bro what 🙏😭
@@miado192 you can’t read?
@@3xitace tiktok has not ruined music is gives more attention to underground rappers that are great
I feel like one of the very few who aren’t on TikTok, and I’m definitely okay with that. Great video as always!
Signing artists off of TikTok is a shot in the dark. You have to discern who's actually a music artist from who's riding a trend. Most labels are filled with people who don't know a thing about music, they bet on popularity with trends and put these social media artists next to bigger artists like Travis or Drake to make them look special.
Flo Millie is doing a great job raising the stakes for herself.
The problem bout tiktok is dumb/naive/Young Hip Hop fans blinding team UP with ppl that hates Hip Hop or the culture creating anomaly artists as Lil mabu or Yuno Miles, or dumb claims like "carti is the goat, Kanye is right" and so on
thats why we gotta ban this app man!
Nah tik tok da goat homie.
Beacause of music no logic
supporting sports betting is wild🤮🤮🤮🤮😬
Fr i hate it when people like patrickcc take their blood money
It’s gonna happen anyway…
Why?
let him get his bag lil bro
Shiiiiiddd I got homeboys making money off it. I’m about to join😂😂😂
TikTok might have the youth, but you need the "grownups" to be big. And since a lot of the older people with jobs and bills to pay aren't generally on TikTok for music, they're not going to feel much about these young artists. But that's just my opinion.
If you don't have a back catalog it's harder to stay on top. If you blow up off one song before you can develop your craft, your screwed. You want a slow raise to the top.
That's true but you mean "rise to the top." Not raise. 🤷
Cant help but laugh at these rappers when there's tons of other artist especially in different genres barely making it year after year and being very humble with it. It's like these people only make music to make money and it's not something they enjoy doing....
they like the dopamine rush from likes lol. they dont understand the craft whatsoever
I never had a Tik Tok account and I ain't planning to that ish Toxic
Same here, man.
It's sad because many believe that these stars haven't been grinding hard to make success happen. Nardwuar's interviews with some of these rappers such as Flo Milli really show that despite the "I made it big with no effort" persona, they really love the craft and are passionate about music.
Dayum.....the old mainstream hip hop songs was about the message and then it became about numbers. It's sad but people gotta eat.
Armani is actually good, i think he's just stuck in a rut to figure out what direction suits him best but he'll get there. He all ready has the charisma and talent. His flows are crazy, they seem simple enough for anyone to join in on but they're deceptively tight.
My point, if I had a label and a quality producer, I would sign him.
Tik Tok made it even easier for plants to ground footing.
rap isn't dying , the clout era is just finally coming to an end.
8:14 this is why people clown on tiktok artists, if you're brag about how versatile you are then prove it why you saying you got it all locked up in the vault
It stays in the vault cause it's trash
It's not like people are checking out for what they are gonna drop, they take that moment and discard you the next
*FUN FACT* Ice Spice has never been played on Australian TV or radio.
We don't know who tf she is nor do we care.
its so trash dundee was like 'nah'
i think what happens is a lot of fame comes as a surprise to people who just "post their song and then it goes viral" so they have no idea how to manage the fame and presumed money that comes from it, so they panic and fumble the release of their next song, the fact tiktok audiences have such short attention spans means that they don't care about the artist or their music, just the specific soundbite (see steve lacy, that shit hurt to watch lmao). it puts them in a hard place, if i was an artist i'd rather have slow but consistent growth instead of jumping out of the blue but immediately be fighting to keep relevance once people stop using my track in their videos.
these kids on tiktok don’t even know the lyrics like the girls in my class were playing classics like the box and xo tour life and only the guys knew the rest of the lyrics😬😬💀💀
Classics like the box LMFAO
Gen Z classics
@@DillonHathawayit went number 1 over Justin Bieber for a reason bruh
chilli-boi moment
@@Cw1047 another CLASSIC artist rofl
Million dollar baby is trending on tiktok
Cant listen to anything if i hear people say its from tiktok
Yayyyyyy you're special 😒
i mean if its fire then its fire idc if its big on tiktok
Take Ice Spice for example. She lost a big amount of monthly listeners in the last few weeks (at least from what i saw) so even ppl who got lucky with a tiktok song are starting to fall off
The worst for me is all these trash-azz interpolations and samples where they barely actually change the source material
Lil Boo Thang is some genuine Walgreens-Core music that'd be even more garbage if it hadn't sampled an actually-good song from the 70s.
Was genuinely disgusted when I heard that trash on the radio. 🤢🤢🤮
I would say ice spice is the blue print for tiktok
This is why gatekeeping is good
Those who doesn't use TikTok hit this button
Maybe you’re old, out of touch, or Republican?
lol 68 people
@@texasa6091 Now 69 😅
corny ass
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I remember back during the 2000s an artist could drop a dope project then go ghost for 2 to 3 years before they dropped their next one and fans would be right back like they never left. Definitely not happening nowadays.
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this tik tok/ streaming era, to me, is just the ringtone era 2.0. alot of artists here today and gone tomorrow.
Sentenced to Falling Off is WILD
ive shunned off tiktok since its musically phase aka the early days of tiktok, I have enough things in my life destroying my attention span, I wanna watch a 1 hour documentary in peace
U know whats crazy is as an “old head” most of these names and songs ive never heard one time and they were supposedly hits and i have a 16 year old into all the new stuf and stil never hewrd any crazy
Like any art, you have to learn the fundamentals before you just branch out on your own most of the time. Yeah there are exceptions, but this industry is extremely saturated and competitive. You can't just assume one thing like tiktok will be your easy way in. You have to network. Build from the ground up so you have a decent foundation. Then after you learn the fundamentals and you put in work and earn trust in your fans AND those at the top, you can start doing things on your own. Nothing in this world is easy. Ever. If you're afraid of hard work, then you're definitely in the wrong field.
Talent is no longer based on talent and just catchy beats . So many artist are going to suffer if Tik tok goes down .
I feel like ppls attention spans are so short. They dont cling to artists they like and wait for threi new music unless their huge unique artists .As a listener of kpop, if you get one hit, you have to be consistent or you fall off a little becasue of how many groups debut everyday theres too much competition. And yes either fans are super loyal and ride for any song u do, but at dome point ppl might get board if ur not consistent in making good music, or not consistent with your concept, ppl start looking elsewhere. The journey isnt the same either. Where groups and solo artist had ro speand years to get attention wheil newbies dont have to do anything other than blow up because of their company or a good song
Tik Tok dosnt build true hard-core fan bases that's the problem
Of course there's a few outliers but as an artist you need a fan base that truly follows you show to show
Many of these Tik Tok artist have 1 billion streams to exaggerate but most of those billion steams is mostly fun content or a dance trend or overall a bunch of kids that like the songs but aren't old enough to buy your merchandise and concert tickets etc....
So sure your numbers look fantastic on the internet but your real fans is probably 100k spread around the world which if your booking shows you can't fill the venue because your fan base is too small compared to what you originally thought
What are these artist gonna do when tiktok goes bye bye? What app will be the vessel for music?
youtube? people can just take a orginal song and make a short version of it (remixed, slowed, sped up, etc) and post it.
Instagram
Ice spice falling off now
Here in lies the problem for Hip-Hop nowadays; for every viral "Crank That", "Chicken Noodle Soup" or "Lip Gloss" which would go viral, you still had quality artists propping up the game: Lil' Wayne, Jay-Z, T.I., UGK, Mobb Deep, Ludacris, Outkast, The Game, DMX, Twista, Jeezy, JaRule, Kanye etc. we had viral moments but consistent artists. What also made Hip-Hop of the 90's/2000's unique was the variety in artists and sounds. There aren't even anymore iconic beats like a Forgot About Dre/Act A Fool/Make it Rain/Drop It Like It's Hot/Touch It/Big Pimpin'/How We Do/In Da Club...the list is endless...now? I'm not even sure
Right, most Tiktok song beats sound the same, no unique beat production.
Indeed
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Great video!
Calling “Goated” Denzel’s track is nasty work. It’s literally on Madden 24 without Curry’s verse 😭
i hate the way faygo executed and it pains me because i love his music so much but he refused to drop when the light was on him
now his songs are barely getting 10’s of thousands of views compared to his millions back in his underground days
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Absolutely love your content man
All my homies hate Tik Tok
Nah tik tok da goat homie.
loving these videos mane
Want to mention Jid with Surround sound. He was well known before the song, and definitely more popular now, but I know there are millions of people who know him as the ceiling challenge guy.
“TikTok rappers” are just the new SoundCloud rappers, as TikTok just became a better option for artists who actually wanna blow up.
who? who? who? lol you building up these no-hit wonders is a skill.
Oh well, you can't kill what's already dead.
The new thumbnail is nice
😅😅😅 Even the most old head rappers. Have begun acknowledging its vitality in the game". Then proceeds to show a clip of Gillie da kid..😅😅😅
I remember flo mili first video on 106 and park before tiktok and loved her since then
@14:50 ‘Feature on Lil Yachty’s Never Lose Me’ as you post the song being hers on her page is crazy 🤣🤣
having a viral hit shouldnt be a negative thing for an artist if more success is the goal and the situation is handled correctly
Hands-down, I’m not gonna lie you for sure touched up on a lot of things that are true TikTok really is a powerful tool when it comes to getting streams and etc on songs
All these ppl wanna just blow up so fast like nah u gotta work hard for that shit and be talented bro not anyone can be an artist. Most these ppl are NOT talented
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I love the fact Lil Nas X ended up flopping. He released, blew up, tried to act like he could do whatever he wanted and didn't care about backlash and his first major flop he's making apology videos 🤣🤣 He is the epitome of the new generations privilage and thought he couldn't be touched before getting touched. That being said, he can still humble himself and come back because he's talented enough to.
This video could be summed up by 9/10 times, “trash rappers are coherent over a fire beat and kids now are so dim that they don't care about the actual song as a whole and just nod their head so it becomes successful."
I still never been on TikTok at all. Makes me feel old
Now country and rock are coming back cause hip hop/rap and pop got stale
Its okay yall yuno miles will save us all
Who??
Tik tok was always overrated
The harsh truth is if you came in the game like that or based your career blowin up off social media you will always be known as that viral artist not a real artist especially if you aint neva mastered your craft from the ground up or been passionate bout your art then we can see your just a gimmick.
Gambling ads are cringe….
Heya, i barely comment on anything at all on youtube, i enjoy your videos and i watch almost every single one of them, i understand that most of them are for highlighting problems etc. so i wonder do you have a pipeline for making videos in other direction e.g. "How a rapper's pan became so good" etc.?
I love this!
In case of Sofaygo Pink Heartz wasn't given a chance that album was great and refreshing to the underground that was supposed to set the tone for the new Gen of rappers I still go back to that album till this day
as far as i can tell all you need is a good hair dresser, some tattoos and some jewlery and BOOM yer famous?!?!?
14:52 it was Flo Milli’s Never Lose Me. Lil Yatchy was the feature on the first remix.