The Untold Story: MrBallen's Fallout With the NAVY Seal Community
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- Video From ►”Navy Seal “MrBallen” Reveals Near Death Experience, Rescue Missions, & Millionaire Mindset”
Full Episode Link ► tinyurl.com/IC...
SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST ► / @theicedcoffeehour
ADD JACK ON INSTAGRAM ► / jlsselby
ADD GRAHAM ON INSTAGRAM ► / gpstephan
LISTEN ON:
ITUNES: podcasts.apple...
SPOTIFY: open.spotify.c...
ADD ICED COFFEE HOUR ON:
INSTAGRAM: / icedcoffeehour
TIKTOK: / theicedcoffeehour
"I used to think the worst thing in life was to end up all alone. It’s not. The worst thing in life is ending up with people who make you feel all alone."
Truer words were never spoken .
No… It’s true. You’re correct. I’ve always thought the same thing.
Amen
Well said. I’ve felt that way in certain jobs that really are more a way of life rather than just a 9-5 job.
@@kieranhart5776
Were you attempting to say that’s gay? If so then you clearly have no understanding of what he was saying and I seriously doubt you have ever had any type of job that puts you in harm’s way and you have to depend on the others in your group, squad or some other organized unit
The only thing that Mr Ballen has ever done to disappoint anyone is when he dropped down to one story per week 😢. Great guy, great storyteller.
Nothing disappointing about someone taking better care of themselves fam
Love his stories and the way they are presented.
The like button made him do it
@@BjornWithASlashNope, but people who don't get jokes.....thats disappointing.
NGL he disappoints me with embellishment in stories. When he starts adding details that are impossible to know (Like what the deceased person had going through their mind) it annoys me to no end because it's guess work. I prefer rigid factual accuracy and no embellishment and so Mr. Ballens way of telling stories isn't good for me.
I listened to Ballen for months before I knew he was a retired Navy Seal
Seems like a great guy .. enjoy listening to his stories
It was surprising to me finding that out. Not the typical personality
I found out he was a SEAL through the comment section of his videos. I dont think Ive heard him talk about being a SEAL on his channel but his channel content doesnt really call for it.
He mentioned it when this was a brand new channel, but it was never a conceited sort of thing. He was always humble. He just told a few stories from his time as a seal. Any seals that have a problem with him need to get over themselves and grow up.
Same. I just started watching him because I thought he looked like Jack from This Is Us, and he intrigued me 😂 his stories are awesome.
I think he’s a self promoting narcissist. He never shuts up about himself. My stepfather was in special forces and he never talked about it.
Dude Mr. Ballen has created an army of loving loyal fans who appreciate him as a normal civilian just making it in life. He has started multiple charities and organizations. Keep rocking Mr B. We love you man.
Agreed! One thing I really like about what Mr. Ballen does is how he's showing everyone that PTSD and depression doesn't have to be an end all for you life. I'm sure he has inspired many vets to keep pushing through until life becomes ok again.
Amen
No need to disrespect the military.
@@MariettaGreen-k8zboohoo. Keep fighting wars for politicians
@user-jc8bs2fo4y did he disrespect the military? Times like this I really wish my grandpa was still alive so I could ask him. He was career navy. A commander. He was in WW2 and Korea.
With all the mental health issues with military people you’d think that they of all people wouldn’t bully each other. It’s disgusting. Kudos to Mr. Ballen. You made a career out of your talent and anyone who is a fan is a better person because of you.
@@Arctic_Adjustermedical discharge isn’t getting kicked out loser.
Pretty sure bullying within the military (especially if you aren't a cis, straight, white man) is a major cause of mental health issues in the military, amongst the more obvious causes
Military men are just comparing dick size the whole time and when others in the Military don't want to compete they get shit for not measuring dick size lol
He seems far more personable than some of the other seals with a social media presence.
No chest besting, just a guy who achieved something special in the past but does not attach his identity or self worth to it. A warrior who has successfully reintegrated himself back into society. Kudos to you Mr Ballen.
To be fair, keep in mind that he didn’t serve to the extent of other more prominent SEALs on the internet. Someone like DJ Shipley (DEVGRU) or Shawn Ryan (CIA) not only served with the “white side” SEALs longer, but went into the “black” side as well.
Operator Syndrome is a thing. PTSD is a thing. Running 150 ops per year for a decade straight is different than 2 deployments. That’s not to take anything away from Mr Ballen, but it’s important to recognize the impact of the job over time. Unfortunately a lot of these guys are not the same.
@@DAAllan82No one is reading all that be, keep your jealousy to yourself. Clown.
Allen is definitely not as wacko as most SEAL YTubers.
@@DAAllan82but there suppose to back eachother to the death not to throw eachother under the bus , like guy with a eye patch , ppl like him that well out there own teammates for personal gain it’s horrendous , most seals are good hearted guys some are just mixed up or pure rotten evil
Most guys that have gone to a combat zone, either spec ops or support contingencies know how to differentiate between posers and con artists. Lingo, the way one carries themself, attitude, and sometimes the blank stare. I know a Marine that got extremely offended by an Army soldier that shit all over me for being in the Air Force as a Security Forces member. Typically, there is jeering and joking amongst military branches. It’s fun to poke fun and laugh at the dumb stereotypes of each branch. This Army veteran was dead serious. He shit all over my service in Iraq from 07-08 and 2010. When the Marine heard this, he jumped up and said “shut the Fvck up!” The Marine already had some intel about me. I was awarded a 100 percent disability rating for PTSD the first time i applied. The VA affirmed that rating three years later when they made it permanent and total. There are more disabilities in wont go into. This army soldier was a reservist carpenter that lies about his service constantly. He stated that the infantry came to him one day and said we need someone. Doesn’t work that way. The infantry wouldn’t pull a carpenter to go on dismounted patrols outside the wire. He could get himself killed or the other infantrymen in the squad/fire team. I’ve got mad respect for the Marine that put that dude in check. Mind you, the soldier has been “fighting” for a higher disability rating since he got out in 2014. The Marine, who received a Purple Heart from an IED, is only now receiving help to get his VA claim taken care of. He went through multiple rounds of surgery at Walter Reed Medical Center for contusions/fractures in his face. He’s got a solid plate and they did cosmetic stuff for him. He’s a boss.
I served in the Marines and I get the "silent professional" mentality. However, Mr Ballen is FAR from a shameless self promoter. He's remarkably humble, charismatic and a gripping story teller. The real douchbags in this scenario are the butt hurt Seals who treated their former team mate like shit. SFMF
I was thinking the exact same thing.💯🤦♂️
Don't flatter yourself. Being a marine is often a cut above the average grunt. But it is a long way from being a special forces operator. I know bunch of marines from my active duty days. They knew what special operators were like. You clearly know very little about these men. Judging from the ones I know I thought marines were all about respect, and respecting codes. Especially the ones that are passed down, not written down. And most especially when it comes to being warriors.
My son in law was a FAST Company marine. My son's father in law is a retired marine. I retired out of Dam Neck Virginia. My son is a special forces operator. Another son in law is a mustang in the naval air wing. And my other son in law did his time in uniform with DEVGRU (SEAL Team Six). I wonder how he met my daughter?
For the record. Us butt hurt douchbags disagree with everything you said. And this might be a good time for you to reflect on your comments, and ask yourself what kind of marine would say what you said.
Ooh! That's not nice! I am glad you aren't saying that to me.
@@Svensk7119 saying what?
@@georgechristian3902 The last four letters are not something that you want a Marine to tell you.
I'll let a Leatherneck tell you what he meant.
It's the Marine motto modified to display.... a level of regard, one could say.
I have worked with three different ex SEALS in my life.
Great guys.
But none of them could let five minutes pass or hesitate to to hijack the subject to remind you that they are SEALS.
Whenever someone tells me they're a Navy seal I rarely believe them. It honestly hurts their reputation with me more than just saying "I was in the Navy." So many people pretend to be seals it's kinda ruined the weight of it
@@bigdawg77 spot on!
I sat beside a dude at the VA one time, and this guy proceeded to tell me that he was a Frogman about 25 times; in the span of roughly 30 minutes…I had to act like I got a call and walked away. He was the definition of an egotistical maniac. I got an even better story from the same exact VA medical center, but that’s for a different day.
I do not believe for one second you have worked with 3 former Seals. The FBI itself did it's studies for Stolen Valor and the report showed that for every man that has really been a SEAL more then 1000 men falsely claim to be one. Also, what do you do for work? Seals do not work typical jobs after they get out....They are highly sought after for positions in the CIA Special Activities Division, with firearm manufacturers, contractors, etc....
I worked with two guys were SF. Not SEALs. I’d known both of them nearly a year before I found out. Two other guys who showed up and immediately told me they were 101st and a SEAL, turned out both were lying.
“Never leave a fallen comrade” doesn’t end on the battlefield.
Perfect comment.
Seriously, its almost as if all logical reasoning has left the teams. Saddening to see
You just stole the words out of my fuming mouth.
Stupidest comment I've read. He wasn't fallen or harmed in any way , financially, emotionally, etc. He just used being a SEAL to get famous. The entire community is right to hate him.
Mind blowing he got this type of backlash from his own people. Specially when SEALS promote themselves more than any other special operations group out there.
Seals are one of the best soldiers in the world so it makes sense to promote yourself, but I think this situation has more to do with not only how ballen became successful along with donating so much money, but also possibly him becoming injured. I wouldn’t disrespect a seal, however some are actual assholes more than regular soldiers.
@@nikolai6489yup. If they are jerks, then screw em
Apparently the people who ostracized him think they're in "Fight Club", which is a shame when it happens to grownups.
@@gaelsdottir5046special forces units always seem to act like cults
@@nikolai6489 That's not really the point of being in that unit, though. It's about professionalism so it's understandable that some guys who ARE quiet professionals like they were supposed to be originally have a problem with it. You rarely hear about SF or Delta guys talking about their experiences for the sake of profit.
Bro the SEALS promote themselves as being SEALS so much that it's a running joke. Mr Ballen is being extremely gracious regarding their modesty here. He was actually pretty tame in that respect....I mean hell, the guy hasn't even written a novel or associated screenplay about himself 😂
@roachfan243well you kinda have to be a sociopath to get through it from what I heard
Or lied about killing someone they didn't and make money from it...... I'm looking at you Rob!
Writing the book even before joining bud/s goes hard
@roachfan243and always starts with "this book isn't about me... it is about yada yada yada"
@@firesidecookieMost underrated comment for this video. I have a TON of respect for SEALs, but Rob’s story doesn’t add up!
The SEAL community needs to do a better job of helping their own find jobs after the military instead of throwing hate at someone who actually made an effort.
Mr Ballen's brutal honesty and candor show his character and courage.
Respect 💯
John is the very best story teller out there. He owes nothing to fans beyond that and finding interesting stories to share. His private life should be his own.
I too, was medically retired from the military. It was an incredibly hard transition because I had NO plan for such an event and for years, I went through mental anguish, trying to figure out who I was. Suddenly, everything stopped. I felt like I was thrown off a moving bus and all my friends kept on going. It got really dark, I suffered from depression, anxiety, heart ache and feelings of being useless, broken and damaged goods. All of this was made worse by the fact that I had to maintain my posture being the father of two young children and a wife that decided to work while I was waiting for word from the medical settlement. They put you on a TDRL list (Temporary medical retirement list) and it last for 5 years. So for 5 long year, I was in fear of them slashing my retirement pay. Stress was a daily reality and I was trying to figure out how to live and what I even 'could' do.
My condolences. I got unexpectedly medically separated from Peace Corps back in the early 90s. Went from acing my interview in the morning for my third year to getting the medical discharge call in the afternoon, left Africa a month later. Too many bush taxi and motorcycle accidents.
I managed to switch to Plan B (going to grad school) shortly after I got back, but it was still really hard for a long time. And the injury was permanent. Completely screwed up my life plans at that point in time.
Where are the transition plans for soldiers? It doesn't seem right to medically transition someone out of service and just let them flounder
I don't know what it's like to go through something like this, but I've heard countless stories of things like it and watched one story first hand. I'm really glad you all are doing well and kicking after all that, I thank you all for your service to us and the world ❤
Thank you for all you gave during your time in service and I'm so sorry you had to give up so much more after. It makes no sense all the hoops you have to go through to receive why is rightfully yours. I cannot imagine your anguish. I hope you are in a better place now. Thank you for your service.
I had to retire in my late 50's due to a medical issue. For a year, I felt worthless. I had no motivation to do anything. I know how I felt and I would say you felt 100 times worse. I didn't have to worry about money or worry who was going to care for me. I probably would have killed my self if I did. Bottom line, just from my experience, I know a little of what you went through. I hope things are better for you and thank you for your service.
I was only a Navy medic but it’s honestly sad that his community did this to him. He earned his respect no matter how many tours or what side of the SEALs he was on. I know he probably doesn’t need it but from a Navy vet to another love to just give him a hug and tell him thank you for being the best of the best and risking his life.
Don't say you were ONLY a Navy medic. My late fiance (God bless his soul)was a Hospital Corpsman (H5, I think ?)for the Navy out in San Diego. You guys are the ones that take care of Marines, their family (on bases), and staff. Without you, they wouldn't function ! Thank you, sir, for all that you've done ! Much love from an unmarried widow. ❤
@@MarieDahme Not all Corpsman are the same.
Godspeed hero
@@Ronfost89but they are appreciated all the same
@@nicres No Marine gives a fuck about a blueside corpsman.
Dudes so humble, I’ve listen to maybe 100 of his stories and had no idea he was a SEAL.
Unheard of
I think he only mentioned it like once or twice in his strange, dark, mysterious series - and only in passing!
Every person handles trauma and PTSD in different ways. Serving two tours or 20 still makes you a SEAL. I thank every single one of you who have served and given up so much of your life and health. I have nothing but admiration and respect for you all.
You're a SEAL once you're assigned to a team, right? And what if you get hurt or killed in training? The community is making an ass of itself.
Unfortunately, in every branch, every section, etc., there is elitism. Elitism about deployments and time served are definitely two big points of it. Not just how many deployments, but where, what you did, what honors you got out of it, etc. Especially from the grunts.
Bro I’m an 11 yr Navy vet. To hear this guy talk about the sadness he felt losing his community real hit hard.
I love Ballen ghost stories
I've lost all respect for ANY navy that says anything bad about this man... it REALLY shows who they are, and its disgusting
Don't cry too hard. Every SEAL knows from day one that if they start taking team business into the public eye, a lot of the people who once called them brother will cut ties. He knew exactly what their reaction would be. But he did it anyway.
@christian3902 Which is again the absurd part of the whole thing. The whole hush hush stuff is dumb. At the end of the days he's doing much better without his "brothers".
@@oneinvisibledoctor Want to know what's really absurd. A simp like you who has never had anything to do with the military in general and SEALS in particular, assuming that you know more about it than I learned during my 25 year career.
Want to know what is not only dumb, but patently idiotic. You saying all that hush hush stuff is dumb, when you don't even know what it is. Have you ever held a security clearance? Obviously not. If you had ever held a Top Secret clearance, like all SEALS do, you would know what the hush hush information is, and why it needs to stay that way.
Here is a little something for that hollow bone between your ears. A lot of that dumb stuff is kept hush hush because if it ever got out it would be a death sentence for anywhere from one to who knows how many people who had risked their lives getting that information and giving it to us. And then there is that dumb "national security" data and other stuff our government doesn't want our enemies to know about.
Here is something no SEAL has ever said "I'm better off without my brothers." You couldn't torture that comment out of any SEAL.
So why don't you stop insulting that brotherhood, and embarrassing yourself by commenting on things you have absolutely no knowledge of. If you talk about something you actually know, you might not sound as idiotic as you do here.
@@oneinvisibledoctor he absolutely is
The day my son was medically discharged was a genuinely heartbreaking moment. The look in his eyes, the timber of his voice and the look in his face broke my heart. He looked out of the window with such sadness and with a look of what do I do now. After a tour in kosovo, 4 tours in iraq his ptsd was so bad he moved deep into PA.
These guys showed their character. They showed who they are and you are better off without them, you divulged nothing inappropriate. You are a mesmerizing storyteller and are adored by millions of us. They are in the past, leave them there. The people you are supposed to be with will be at your side.
They only know how to promote being a seal though i think he meant in regular civilian life they don't promote themselves in other ways they possibly have strengths and dont know it cause all the know is being a seal .
Well Said 👌🏾
I agree these guys are not his friends. If they want to act like that they are being very poor role models for all the kids that look-up to them. What a bunch of Bullies to the ones who mistreated Mr. Ballen. That brings shame on them. It's not Mr. Ballen's fault that he got hurt. Any one of them is just one injury away from their career ending too, so they're no better than him. That actually disapoints me that they would act like that to one of their "Brothers." They may have died for him at the time not because he was their brother but because their ego would not let a man be left behind. Whatever works in the field I guess but very disapointing behavior.
@@samamsterdam4301its an obviously toxic community
@@RT-qz5ci I was about to post that they were toxic right before I read your comment. I live near Bragg, father was a 23 yr vet, brother 22 yr vet, I served as well and MANY of my neighbors and friends served.
I say all that to say, IMO the SF community in general is very toxic. Yes there are some really greats guys that belong to the community but as a whole damn they can be insufferable at times.
They are so selective on who is allowed to advertise being a SEAL. Never see any complaints or problems with Jocko Willink. He makes tons of money off of it. Books, gym stuff. What of that? We love Mr. Ballen
If mere words were enough to destroy a "brotherhood", then it wasn't a brotherhood to begin with.
A weak mental communal structure
just a sausage party patting themselves in the back for being 'silent' heroes but won't hesitate to shout out how much they suffered whenever convenient.
Military is a joke. There is no honor, no brothers… its all silly. everyone is there for the paycheck and the benefits.
Amen brother!!! '
@rickb3565. AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO COMMENTED ON THIS TRIPE. It is definitely a brotherhood. But one someone like you could never understand, much less be part of. You think your "friends" are really friends. Find one who will actually risk something for you. It doesn't have to be their life, although that is how special operators measure friendship. And hence the basis for the brotherhood. Just ask one, or all of your friends collectively to give you $10K, no questions asked. And find out how many "friends" you really have. I'm betting you don't have a single one.
Now, how many of them, including you, knowing they could escape a lethal situation unharmed. Would go back into a firefight that one of their "friends" can't escape from, knowing full well that they are outnumbered and outgunned, and that it could very easily, possibly even likely, turn into a situation where both they, and the friend they are trying to save go home in body bags. How many would go? The question of whether or not to go back would never enter the mind of a SEAL, or any other special operator I've known. And the guy in trouble knows his "brothers" will never dishonor their code and abandon him to save their own asses.
How many people do you know who can say that?
That's one of the many differences between someone like you, and any special operator. That's the brotherhood. Always living up to the highest expectations of themselves, and their brothers. Mull that over.
Mr. Ballen has become an expert storyteller! He was an amazing Navy SEAL and I'm so sorry for the pain of his past. I hope he knows he has legions of loyal followers who he makes happy everyday ❤
I'm pretty sure he does. And I kind of think it's a good thing that he's now doing something completely different. While my experience in the military was nothing like that of a Seal, I can say it was hard for me to go back to civilian life. But I think trying to stay involved in military culture after you separate can actually make it harder. At least for me, it was easier once I decided, "OK, it's over, and it's not who I am anymore."
He's the type of person I respect most; the person who owns his own shit and doesn't blame others or make themselves out to be a victim. I don't know him personally but he seems like a really great person
Hes the kinda guy you could trust with your dog fr
MrBallen is the only "celebrity" I would defend on a personal base of character. He just seems like a genuine and humble individual. He by no means ever represented himself and former career in a selfish manner or in a way that would make the seals look bad. I'm glad he is centered enough to move past the hate and not only heal but thrive. He didn't deserve any of the negativity. Keep on being your awesome self mrballen.
He battles with addiction. He has been open about that.
A bunch of tough guys got their feelings hurt because this man worked to improve his and others’ lives.
Don Shipley said you were legit, good enough for any man standing
Damn that’s crazy! Leaving a brother in the wind like that after he’s been retired. Mr. Ballen is an awesome dude. Hopefully those “bro’s” of his will shit out their heads and realize they were wrong.
So you want them to change the code they've lived by for the last 60 years, and do things your way. Sound about right? What you think is right for SEALS should be the standard for them.
I'll tell you what. Join the Navy, make it through SEAL training, and join the teams. That way you will have some credibility. Then you can tell them what you think, and so them the error of their ways.
How does that sound? I hope you do it. Because I already know what will happen when you do.
@@georgechristian3902 butthurt much?
@@tabbychan516 Not really. I only use it in the way nature intended. Just out of curiosity, how are the stretch marks on your lips.
I can’t imagine a person being more honest and real. Love this guy, love his stories.
My bestie’s husband is career Navy. Said the Seal Teams often acted like arrogant jerks to other NAVY personnel. He’s based out of Norfolk.
I feel bad for this guy.
dshepherd107. I'm retired Navy and have lived in Virginia Beach for 33 years. There are no SEALS on the Norfolk base, or anywhere near it. The even number teams are based at Little Creek Amphibious base. And DEVGRU is on Dam Neck. I've never seen or heard of any SEAL acting like arrogant jerks around anyone except other SEALS. I retired from Dam Neck. And I've lived about 5 miles from the base since 1992. Like me these guys have been living in neighborhoods around here for decades. And I would be shocked if even one out of a hundred people around here know it. Half of them don't even believe SEAL Team Six actually exists. And many of the people have been here longer than me. Some have lived here their entire life. I submit this as living proof that SEALS dont go running around and telling everyone they are SEALS.
@@georgechristian3902i had no idea Virginia Beach was such a military spot! I was at hotel that’s right next to Neptune Statue on the top floor (35th I think) and I heard that all kinds of jet fighters fly all the time and I sat on my balcony hoping to see one? There were non for two days I was there lol it was also around Veterans Day..
You never served and you definitely weren’t in Virginia Beach
@@williamstocker584 Why don't you come to Upton Estates in VB and prove I'm not here. Here's some advice for your health. You'd better be real careful, or you'll find me. Now, change your tampon, and go back to practicing your pronouns.
@@georgechristian3902- Former Coronado resident here…I’ve known many SEALs…some are easy going, some are more intense, but I’ve NEVER heard one talk/brag about his job.
Been watching MrBallen for years! Love him, his stories, & my 9 year old as soon as we're in car asks to listen to him!!! Great guy beautiful family!
John, you have credited something so special. Being a Seal doesn't make you, you. You make who you are and that is something very special. 💖💖
The coolest thing about Ballen is that even though being a SEAL did shape a lot of what he became as a person, he steadfastly refuses to let it define him completely! 😎💪🍻
Don Shipley supports
"Mr Ballen" carrer move. Good enough for me. Sounds like Jealousy from former Seals and SF Community.
If you look too closely at some of your heroes or actually get to see what’s inside, you’ll often end up disillusioned and disappointed. The truly great ones are the same person inside as outside, and never need to elevate themselves or degrade others.
@bryanpeterson1334. SEALS are always the same people regardless of where they are. And there are two words that rarely go together they are "SEALS" and "disappointed." As far as I know you might be the first person in history to say they are disappointed with SEALS. That's not a badge of honor, it's actually a stain on your character. But I think they can handle you being disappointed in them without losing their edge.
All boils down to jealousy imo. It's not as if Mr Ballen was personally saying yeah I'm this I'm that, calling anyone out personally, putting them in danger or talking about secret missions he was just explaining his own personal experiences of what he experienced as a Navy Seal & why he left. No reason for the Navy Seal community to literally bombard Mr Ballen with hatred & effectively banish him. I think that is pathetic behaviour
Nah, it’s not jealousy. It’s a standard. You don’t use your time in service for personal gain after.You don’t exploit your “story” for profit. This isn’t even just a SEAL thing. Any combat arms unit will look at you as a grifting, self-serving shit bag. The likes of Tim Kennedy are beloved by people who never did anything, hated by those who did.
Myself included. Now knowing that Mr Ballen whored out his service I’ll probably never watch another video of his.
Thanks for saying exactly what Mr Ballen already said. Not sure why you felt the need to repeat his exact words. We all watched the video and understand what it was about.
@@davidbiagi2932 it was clearly needed since people are in the comments saying “it’s just jealousy “. After Mr Ballen explained it so clearly and concisely. So are you ready to start shitting on OP here for missing the entire conversation, or bitch about me clarifying? Take your pick.
its not jealousy, you idiot. Its breaking a code of honor
This ☝🏾💯💯💯💯💯💯
The ego SEALS have is absolutely massive. They are willing to throw their “brothers” under the boss if u hurt their ego in any sort of way. The whole “we dont speak about what we do because we are too special to show how special we are”. Its just corny
And people wonder why other people see a Civil War in America as not totally impossible, when petty shit like this happens amongst "men of arms". You cannot really expect the Chain of Command to hold when shit really hits the fan at home...
In case you weren't aware, it's 'under the bus' not under the boss
"It's just corny" You know exactly DICK about anything you're making an ass of yourself trying to talk about.
Dodgers-sw2uk. Nobody is getting thrown under the bus here. They haven't put out a hit, or wished him any ill. It's just that some of them have sort of excommunicated him. And nobody would ever have known about it if Ballen hadn't told the world. He took SEAL business into the civilian realm. And that's something you just don't do. Doing that caused a lot more SEALS to excommunicate him. Than he had already isolated for talking about being a SEAL. And he knew all of this before he did it. So it didn't come as a surprise.
@@mrconfusion87 Your name is remarkably accurate for you. What could you possibly know about this subject. And just to rationalize the obvious for you. These men whom you think don't have it together, have done one hell of a job over the last 20 years proving that assumption false.
Don Shipley looks up Mr Ballen's class number weekly. Humble is an understatement.
🙏
Shipley went in on him ??
Other than the billboards around Austin, I'm just learning his story
@@diviningrod2671people have contacted Don to verify John. Don says, “Yes, he’s the real deal!”
Class number doesn't mean anything other than when you went through BUDS, and the other guys who went through it in the same class. So he didn't do anything other than what every other SEAL has done. The story of what he did, and how well he did it is in his service record. Which I don't think Shipley has access to.
@@georgechristian3902 you can FOIA someone’s service records. And yes, Don Shipley does it all the time.
Don Shipley verified Mr. Balllen and said keep up the good work..... That's good enough for me
FACTS!
Hold your head up Mr. Ballen! I'm an airforce veteran, I'm part of a career field group. Every branch from the lowest man to the badest self proclaimed tough guy winds up up praying what we brought to the fight shows up soon! Tell your story, tell stories other want you too. Roll on big dog, dont let anyone tell you "shut up stay on the porch"
fuckin a
Glad you support him !
The Navy SEALS community treating themselves like they're some sort of secret society is friggin hilarious
Spoken like someone who got turned down by the navy for obesity. If it’s such an easy and non-selective group how come you aren’t one?
Well, according o some stories part of them are, a war criminal secret society.
@@IAN0351 That's not even what they said. They never said it was easy, its just hilarious how they act. So why hurl the fat insult around? I would think a military man would have more respect and dignity then that. Instead you're acting like a schoolyard kid.
I have no doubt joining the Seals is difficult and not many could do it. I know I sure couldn't given my disabilities, but I would expect someone who serves to be a mature adult, not someone who attacks random internet users with childish insults.
You won’t say that to their faces
Lol not ALL human beings can make it through SEAL training. Please tell me how it’s not? Around 70-85% of all who try, fail out. So yeah they’re the 20%….members only
Paris (France) January 9, 2024
You are appreciated ... over the world ❤
Your way to tell stories is so breathtaking. And your whole body participates to the narrative. It is great !
As a french person loving litterature, it is an immense pleasure each time to listen and to "watch" your stories, we see in our mind what you relate. It is great, great, great !
Your wife choosed the right man !!!
All the best to you.
That attitude is changing as more and more special operators tell their stories.
More and more special operators? Theres like maybe 2 guys from delta and all they ever talk about is shooting guns.
The seals are so overblown and they made it that way. Now they’re upset.
@@billbillson5082 Overblown by who? They are upset exactly because a lot of people talk about it. They didn't like it when that Navy SEAL wrote about the Bin Laden raid Pentagon almost banned it.
I beg to differ.
I've been subbed to you for your storytelling for so long and had no idea that you went through this. I'm so sorry that you had to experience that. Your storytelling community adore you. I remember when you were moving across country and were apologizing for not being able to do your regular schedule and everyone told you that we would be there for you whenever you could get back to it.😊
Mr. Ballen thank you for your service. I enjoy your story telling and your journey from a small town to serving our country and story telling.
Mr. Ballen tells the best story of all, his own. Fascinating guy.
Yeah, sorry to hear he faced such hate. Goes to show that they weren't your real "brothers" in arms. A real brother wouldn't make you feel so shitty, even if he personally disagreed with what you were doing. IMHO, the SEALs gaining public fame was inevitable once the days of social media dawned.
Or maybe the true “silent professionals” are sick of former members who stop being silent?
Just a thought…
Sure, they can be sick of it - I can get behind that. I'm simply saying that given the choices the more public figures made, the others', who at one point were teammates of their's could have been more empathetic and resort less to straight up hate so easily. @@DAAllan82
@@DAAllan82maybe, but the seals brought that on themselves. They really really dug into the fame. It’s not like there’s 1 or 2 guys out there, it’s like par for the course for that entire community. I don’t ever see delta doing that. The 2 people i know of that were in delta don’t even wear their special forces tabs or anything, and their linkedin only says special operations community and the timeframe they were there. Seal community brought this on themsleves.
@@billbillson5082 You’re right that far fewer Delta and Green Berets go public and the Navy leaned heavily into the PR game with the SEALs as their poster child.
But to be fair, there are literally tens of thousands of retired SEALs. A few dozen of them are public. So it’s really not that common in the grand scheme of things.
@@DAAllan82 "true silent professionals"......I take it you've never actually talked to anyone who's been in SF, none of them are particularly "silent" about it......they make sure to remind you regularly.
It's very sad because every time I watch you tell amazing stories I give all working seals a small prayer hoping they are okay. Sad that they turned on you, I think you are an amazing story giver. Hopefully, they will lose whatever ego problems and allow you back where you belong. Your not doing them bad at all, if anything they should realize your a bright light in a dark world. I thank you for that.
As a mother of 2 kids about his age…this breaks my heart for him. Makes me want to give him a hug and feed him comfort food (I’m southern, it’s what we do lol).
I thank you for your service, John and I hope that some day THEY will reach out to YOU and make you feel like family again.
Much love from this mama bear in NC.
MrBallen went from one success to another. It sounds like those who’re upset, haven’t made it big yelling that they’re frog men to everyone around them. I hope he continues to succeed, because nothing feels better than seeing the deserved succeed.
If I were to meet John I would probably keep yawning and fall asleep because I'm so used to listening to him when I sleep 😂
😂
Why aren't other former SEALs who have written books and done appearances getting this kind of grief?
Because they pick and choose who they want to be with and around so I guess you can call it jealousy.
He said in the interview that pretty much any SEAL who has gone public experiences some level of this hate.
John, I can kind of see both sides a little. I know and understand how deeply the community feels. But I see also selfishness and unforgiveness on their side. I really don't see your trespass as a deep injury to them at all. You have very much made the people who love the Seals anonymously as citizens, love the Seal teams more because we also see the human personal side of you as a Navy Seal. You give them a face even like Marcus Lutrell. Just the same as you were both injured in battle and had to leave. Your situation was with lesser injuries but no one is counting. Your honor is not Blemished! Your a great guy and we will always be fans of yours as well as the teams. I thank all of you for your self sacrifice and diligence and rediness. And your America's great story teller and we can't do without that can we? Thank you for sharing this part of your story. We have a much better picture of you now. It doesn't have acne haha. Looking forward to more stories!!!!
I’ve never seen the videos he posted about being a seal, but the way he takes responsibility and understands why they did what they did, I’d think they would probably be chillin especially with what they have been through together. But maybe not I haven’t seen the old vids. Also, you guys are fantastic interviewers. The entire interview was entertaining start to finish, very well done
I feel so bad for what he went through. You'd think the military community would know better. That's messed up.
“Two roads diverged … you took the one less traveled by… and that has made all the difference.” Robert Frost
People come and go in life. It is natural. Don’t let their position affect you. You are Greatly Respected and Loved!
Sounds like dude pretty much owned the fact that he crossed a known line with his brothers. I even sensed some regret on his part. He sounds like a grown ass man moving on from his mistakes. Love his channel and I respect him even more after seeing this.
Ive been in the army for 15 years and respect the hell out of you for building something original. I hope you never stop telling stories and dont let the haters get to you.
Combat arms we tend to eat our own, Seals can be the biggest divas, and they loveee love love the spotlight and attention. But hey, somebodys gotta give the Call of duty basement operators something to look up too. Love ya brother, keep being great.
SEALS are divas? Maybe that’s the problem🤣🤣
As someone who worked along side several groups in the special operations community, it was pretty well known amongst our guys that seals liked to sniff their own farts and were overall unpleasant to work with so this is nothing surprising to me. SF guys were always chill and fun to work with. Just my experience
They do that to protect others. SEAL farts have superpowers guys like you couldn't handle.
I have adored this guy for a while now. Humble,kind,well adjusted,compassionate, GREAT STORYTELLER------I could go on and on !!!! We love you here in St. Louis, God Bless !!!
And what Mr. Ballen describes here is EXACTLY the difference between Marine Corps and SEALs. As a Marine, I have done a lot of what he did (after service)...I have worked with others I knew, and generally those who did similar MOS's or jobs...and sometimes, it requires telling stories about yourself or your accomplishments to do this. As a Marine, no Marine would EVER come down on me for helping another Marine...often I'd even identify people by their recognition of one of my stories, or their discussion of something that happened to them...BEERS ALL AROUND! Anger? NEVER! Only threat I ever faced was drinking too much with guys I knew! Marines are BROTHERS, plain and simple. SEALs tend, by-and-large, to be 'wanna-be NSA spooks', and don't want ANY details coming out...yet there are the select few that they support when a book or movie is released. I just don't get it! If I drew fire to save a 'brother's' life...hey, he owes me a beer when we get back...IF we get back. As for the idiocy of 'compartmentalization and black bag' silence...we've got enough of that already. Bravo to Mr. Ballen, for helping others like himself...damn those who have alphabet soup in their minds...and from my own experience, the SEALs are the WORST for having this 'spy vs spy' mentality, even towards their own team members!
Never realized how childish the seals community is…. Crabs in a barrel.
Crabs in a bucket is very human! Just because this group is well-versed in the art and science of armed combat does NOT mean they are above the usual human BS as well...
Great comment abt crabs
I, like so many others joined the Ballen bandwagon years ago and casually posted something about Quincy, which got an immediate and sincere reply from John. He is the real deal, friendly, humble and genuine. A wonderful man and an inspiration to us all.
I’m literally caught up on every single ballen story to date. “Patiently” waiting for the next one. In fact I can confidently say I’ve seen all AT LEAST TWICE? AT LEAST!!
MrBallen, please enjoy and be proud of your success that millions of your listeners and viewer appreciate. Your hard work and your talents paid off and that’s all that counts. The people who sent you disapproving messages will change. They either will find their own success or will acquire wisdom through years. And you MrBallen have nothing to do with negativity of naysayers. Live your life at fullest as you bring so much good into the society. Thank you for your service and for the inspiration!
I have so much respect for anybody that can say, "ya know what? I did so & so, and I shouldn't have. And these guys are justified in being upset." That's commendable, my friend.
MrBallen I have enjoyed your channel for a long time, and always found you to be very modest about your service to our country. Your service is certainly appreciated and should be celebrated. Especially given wounds you suffered for your country. I am sad to hear that you have a rift with your former teammates, and hope that in time those wounds will heal.
Its called humility, something most SF guys lack. But it's also part of the territory of being the best. Staying humble and being the best = mr ballen = true greatness. Good shit.
True! Though some of the greatest ever warriors (the Audie Murphys, Leo Majors of the world) downplayed their combat exploits! Simo Hayha (the world's greatest sniper) treated his old combat exploits in a rather ho hum way as well!
As a former service member and literally a bottom of the totem pole port dog in the Air Force. I had friends in the combat controller pipeline. Which is very similar to seals, what all John went through to even do his seven years and two deployments. Most men could never do, the training itself is freaking cut throat and John B. Not only succeeded in that but Took a fucking grenade to the body with shrapnel all inside him. I am 40 years old and youtube is my only social media. But I respect all he's done and does every week. His content is second to none, not to mention he's just a good person. It's bullshit that the seals are such a brother hood, but turn on someone just trying to make it as a civilian in the manner he's taken. Especially when his first move was to set up former elite operators with every day jobs. So what if he promoted himself. Who the hell doesn't this day in time.
I know two SEALS - there isn't a single conversation, no matter what the topic, where they bring up their service. I have a feeling they're just jealous that he was getting attention and they weren't..
yea. I wasn't a SEAL but I only talk about service stuff with close friends and family. If it is strangers I avoid the topic all together because there are so many liars and bs artists.
@@MrWolynskiid be more likely to believe that it is a stock photo on a troll account
First time ever seeing this channel. I enjoy Mr. Ballen. But you guys interviewing him are awesome. No cutting off the guest, not talking more than the guest, letting him do exactly what you want him to do…talk & tell stories.
Great job interviewers! You know how to perform!
We need all these operators to tell their stories when they are able. Seriously. They are closer to the reality than anyone. The interview with Kyle Morgan when he was only 44 days out of Delta Force is eye opening.
I never knew Mr. Ballen was a Seal when I started watching his stuff. Most of the people hating him probably did nothing in the military and hate his success.
Ballen is a low key guy! Chances are, he is the sort of dude who'd downplay the epic stuff he did while on deployment - the way old greats like Audie Murphy and Leo Major would...
discovered him on TH-cam in 2020.... appreciative of him for good ole storytelling...
One of the most humble people ever, gives props to medic and team. Comes off more like a middle school history teacher then a seal. Other seals have gone on radio bragging about how he was one to put bin laden down and books. Others embellish all they did and do movies bout themselves . even if he does self promote himself he's trying to make a living post active duty. Its his resume and needs to promote his soft hard skills just like anyone.
the fact that "brothers" were willing to disown him for him trying to better himself shows they were not brothers in the first place. imo.
I love Mr Ballen, but this isn’t a Seal community thing. It’s a misery loves company thing. There are those that will always try to tear down successful people.
Not it at all, dude. It's a niche community that you don't understand.
@@Idk-v5p you are right about me not knowing. I was just saying that’s a human in general trait. I know the Seal community is very hardcore just from an outsider perspective.
@@Idk-v5pSeals don't talk about being Seals. They commit suicide instead.
@@Idk-v5pIt’s actually exactly it. Same story in so so many scenarios, there’s just different levels to it depending on what type of people are involved.
It's definitely a SEAL thing. They are uniquely vicious to their own.
It’s jealousy, humans tend to get jealous when they see one of their be more successful than they are.
That level of hate over something so small. Zero respect.
I was a medical officer…in the Air Force. I used to joke how I wasn’t really in the military until a marine veteran told me “you were there to take care of my brothers”. Love ALL my Vets!
Sorry to hear this Mr. Ballen. Thank you for your service and your YT channel. BZ
Great interview. You can see you two just hangin on to his every word like you watch his videos. Eyes all glossed over…
so painful. i hope one day the others will be ok re the seal stuff. if they could see how it makes us appreciate what they go thru better. cuz they don't talk, we really don't have a clue what all goes on.
One reason I'd sit with him: he will understand what it feels like when you are the only one speaking up
You can't buy that kind of help and understanding
You can can hear the honesty, integrity and maturity, you've done nothing wrong John, go in peace
His communication skills are so good. It's nice listening to him.
John served with honor performed his duty to the highest standard and he has my respect. Kudos go out to Mr. Ballen for starting his own company and being successful. Not sure why anyone would shun him for that. How many other SOF have written books and have pod casts promoting themselves and their service. I don't see the problem with any of that. However , there is a certain CEO and founder of a popular veteran connected company that I question the veracity of the mans past and present experiences. There seems to be an effort to whitewash this persons history. He has been popping up as a guest on many of the SOF podcasts lately. How has he escaped the scrutiny that /Mr. Ballen has been subject to. Just sayin'.....
There is a dude that says he was a SEAL that speaks of going to mars to fight aliens. I don't see anything regarding him.
Michael Jaco
Don Shipley verified John Ballen's record in the military! That should be good enough!
It's unfortunate but the personality type that is capable of performing extreme things, also reacts in extreme ways. I had several SEALs as clients and the psychology there is different, it's a whole different way of seeing and moving through the world and it also sees many things as absolutes. I didn't even work in psych, just PT but I had to treat them differently and work with them differently, because of the mindset. I'm so sorry that these men with whom you've shared blood and faced the most terrifying things in the dark, that they've turned on you like that. I can see how that would cause you to uproot and move. I really love your story telling. You're good at it and I hope you continue and achieve more success.
Mr Ballen has his own community now ❤ and we appreciate John tremendously!
He’s such a humble guy. The fact he was treated like that was awful. Hes doing great now, so well done to him. 🤩
I just know one thing..MrBallen seems like such a strong man to me..he seems so honest and I just think the world of him..I hope he keeps going with who he really is and happily with his wife and kids..that's all that really matters..go strong little Ballens!!😊
Wow I thought seals where like extremely tough guys, physically and mentally, how strange that they would be so affected by this, angry and irritated…Making faces, being rude to him…For something so harmless? never would have imagined that…
Its a culture you don’t belong too. You don’t whore out your prior service for influence or gain. Simple as.
@@IAN0351 ohh, is that how it is in their culture?? Then thank god I don’t belong!!! Sounds awful that your own friends and colleagues will trash talk you for even mentioning something that you did that you are very proud of in like 1% of your videos on your own TH-cam channel where you tell people fun, adventurous and mysterious stories to entertain them and make their lives a bit easier in a country where freedom of speech still exists!Thank you Mr. Ballen for helping me so much with your content and I hope to maintain my admiration for the Navy Seals not by listening to nonsense messages like “you don’t whore out your prior service”….(who talks this despicably?), but because I admire you so much. Thank you John from the bottom of my heart! ❤️
@@AndieFlowers3 You we’re never a qualified candidate, no need to worry.
SEAL culture has gone to shit in the last two decades
@@IAN0351 hahahaha your answer was too predictable! To supposedly hurt me by further implying I don’t have skills when you don’t know nothing about me but want to sound cool maybe? Or strong? Well your weakness shows. To further alienate others and put people down doesn’t make you look better, just so much worse and exactly proves my point, thank you.
It's crazy how once your out they turn on you. I think it's needed for the active to keep the mindset . But it hurts
We're talking about a group of people who gave up their self athority in the name of being muscle for a known abusive government. Their opinions have to be taken in the scope of the damage they've done and the damage they've had done to them
John, I could listen to your stories forever. You're awesome!
He's the most soft spoken and humble team member I've heard speak. Props
So sad these fellow Bro’s in the navy could be this harsh and negative on success of a fellow brother
Poor Ballen. That’s a dumb “code”. But it is what it is. Sucks he had/has to go through that just for trying to be successful in a way that brought him joy. Sending you hugs MrBallen!
I knew instructors with their BUDS class number on their license plates. I knew guys with huge tridents on their chests and backs and that was pretty normal.
Keep doing your thing, bro!