Did Brassieres End the Corset?

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  • The 1910s is undoubtably one of the most volatile periods of fashion history- moving from classical columns to circle skirts to casual drapery in just ten years. And somehow the undergarments had to keep up! It's during this decade that brassieres became a standard part of Western womens wardrobes and the corset sees the beginning of a dramatic makeover.
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  • @smallishkae
    @smallishkae 3 ปีที่แล้ว +263

    So the tired-old corset rhetoric we hear today is basically if someone in the future came across those ridiculous info-mercials and thought, “wow people in the early 21st century really had trouble cleaning...”.

  • @bobbiemooney2100
    @bobbiemooney2100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +314

    My great aunt still was wearing her Edwardian corset until just before she died in 1949. I used to visit her when I was a child, and it was fascinating for me, because my mother wore the bra that was usual in the 40s and 50s, so I got an unasked for tutorial from my aunt about corsets were “better”, but that is another story.

    • @katherinemorelle7115
      @katherinemorelle7115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I’d be inclined to agree with your aunt.

    • @pseudo.account
      @pseudo.account 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Why is that a story for another time??? Tell us now!! LOL. What did your aunt think was better about her edwardian style corsets? Did you inherit them when she passed?

    • @MioHasMoe
      @MioHasMoe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I agree with your aunt. Corsets are so helpful for my bad posture pain lol!

    • @TheEudaimonya
      @TheEudaimonya 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Oh yeah, I love my corset! Great back support for when you're standing and leaning over to do stuff, like a long cooking project. It's also the most effective and comfortable shapewear I've ever worn. Spanx and related garments smooth me down but they also make my waist completely disappear, which I hate. And when my lower back tries to lock up on me I just wear my corset to give external support until the muscles relax. I've even slept in it. Those anti corset advertisers were full of it!

    • @eviebraud1307
      @eviebraud1307 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheEudaimonya I'm glad you found a good corset that works for you I'm looking to get one too

  • @jaspersgrimoire
    @jaspersgrimoire 3 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    The bra didn't kill the corset- Elastic did. They took the corset, made it elastic, and called it something else

    • @pseudo.account
      @pseudo.account 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Good point! Women weren't so much throwing off the oppressive yoke of corsets, as they were upgrading to a new technology!
      It's like when we went from using a house phone to a cell phone, lol.

    • @mastersnet18
      @mastersnet18 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Exactly, corsets turned into girdles

  • @clarestebbing2901
    @clarestebbing2901 3 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    I love when you fall down a research rabbit hole. Alice would be proud.

  • @leonie4696
    @leonie4696 3 ปีที่แล้ว +144

    I had to smile when you said "bust supporter isn't really an attractive name" - because that is exactly what we call the bra in German. The German word for brassiere is "Büstenhalter", which translates as "bust holder" or bust supporter. We usually shorten it to BH, just as English-speaking people usually say 'bra'.

    • @idasvenning3892
      @idasvenning3892 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Yeah it’s the exact same in Swedish! The original word bysthållare (literally bust holder) is very rarely used nowadays, in favour of the short bh or the lengthened shortening (yes very necessary 😂) behå.

    • @Wisia02-02
      @Wisia02-02 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It is similar in Polish - "biustonosz" could be translate into hm. "bust carrier" or something like that, and it comes from German. We use word "stanik" too and it comes from word "stan" that means upper part of dress/torso, but this word changed its meaning through decades, with changes in woman fashion (upper part of dress > bodice (?) > corset > bra).

    • @TheGabygael
      @TheGabygael 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ironically enough that's also how we call it in French x)

    • @anna_in_aotearoa3166
      @anna_in_aotearoa3166 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's so fun and interesting to see how names for the same items around the world! These "bosom holder" forms of naming the bra remind me very humorously of one Australian slang name for a bra, which is an "over-the-shoulder boulder-holder".... 😂

    • @catherinerayburn100
      @catherinerayburn100 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It could be worse with crude American of "over shoulder boulder holder" said mainly by what some might call "white trash".

  • @inerlogic
    @inerlogic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +184

    100 years from now, future Nicole talking about re-creating spanx.....

    • @IvoryValentine22
      @IvoryValentine22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      If history is any indication shape wear will either be unheard of or back to something similar to corsets 😂

    • @Love-and-Salt
      @Love-and-Salt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      “So they used this really interesting material called spandex which was basically small strips of elastic woven into the cloth...we have nothing like this today so I’ll have to make do...”

    • @button4631
      @button4631 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@IvoryValentine22 yeah, spanx will be blamed for women's death and fainting lol

    • @SarahBent
      @SarahBent 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It will be very hard to get the power mesh though, so future viewers will.be amazed at her dedication.

    • @MsJPA79
      @MsJPA79 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Don't forget the bustier. I wore one under my wedding dress with spanx control top pantyhose. Nothing hasn't really changed.

  • @lisahodges8299
    @lisahodges8299 3 ปีที่แล้ว +238

    It was very strange seeing my grandmother's foundation garments worn by someone from this century; she did not wear more modern garments. The steelmaker who called twice a year to make her clothes made her bras too. The only difference is that she had pink brocade underwear.
    Birdy

    • @nblmqst1167
      @nblmqst1167 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      My grandmother was born in 1900, and I also find it strange.

    • @pseudo.account
      @pseudo.account 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Steelmaker? Were corset makers called steelmakers?

    • @lisahodges8299
      @lisahodges8299 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Predictive text.. Oh dear sorry, I meant dressmaker.
      Birdy

    • @MahHairChronicles
      @MahHairChronicles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@lisahodges8299 "Steelmaker" makes for a very interesting story though....

  • @katiejo911
    @katiejo911 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Corset cover goes to bra, Corset goes to girdle. May have said this before but my Irish grandmother wore a corset every day until they put her in the nursing home in the late 1970s. It really helped her back when she was milking cows.

  • @marthaschwartz5031
    @marthaschwartz5031 3 ปีที่แล้ว +233

    In case anyone is wondering, the bra in France is called a soutien-gorge (chest/bust support).

    • @jea7362
      @jea7362 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Other fun fact: in Québec, it is commonly called a brassière. So the term is used in some french-speaking parts, probably because the US is just across the border haha

    • @ragnkja
      @ragnkja 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@jea7362
      And because so much of the same country speaks English.

    • @zoui976
      @zoui976 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Well in France we have both soutien-gorge and brassière but there is a difference between them: a brassière a sports bra and everythong else is a soutien-gorge...

    • @johannageisel5390
      @johannageisel5390 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      In German it's "Büstenhalter", short "BH" (pronounced Beh-hah), which translates to "bust holder".

    • @marthaschwartz5031
      @marthaschwartz5031 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@johannageisel5390 "Bust holder" is so accurate and also funny.

  • @wingthorn
    @wingthorn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    The corset certainly persisted well into the 1960s, at least in Montreal. On my way to class, I passed a corsetiere's shop that showed corsets, usually in that odd shade of pinkish tan called "nude", in their modestly small windows. And this wasn't an odd remnant in an obscure neighbourhood. This was on a main fashionable street, right next door to Holt Renfrew, which was, and still is, a high-end shop.

  • @myriamd3152
    @myriamd3152 3 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    I have never made historical garments, but the more I look at videos etc, the more I want to. And underthings are what appeal to me the most (maybe because I find modern ones so uncomfortable). This one appeared in my pinterest a few days ago, and you seem to say it is as comfortable as I thought it would be. I will try my hand at this. Thank you very much

  • @bunhelsingslegacy3549
    @bunhelsingslegacy3549 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    My mother in-law (married in the late 50 I think) was told she "needed a corset now that she was married" so she got one at the department store, and wore it once, and then it lived in the closet till she eventually threw it out. Found that out this Xmas when I told her I was exploring a half-corset sports bra thing because "This is like, so comfy" is something I have never once said about a bra. Ever. Best I've managed is "this is probably tolerable for its purpose and then GET IT OFF ME." Turns out I really don't like anything touching my chest under my boobs. And I've never been terribly large so they held themselves up just fine without support... and now that ... uh, age + gravity, I'm finding "things I don't like touching my chest" includes my boobs... Which is why I'm working on a mockup of the top half (waist up) of an "athletic corset". Thanks to your research I'll be experimenting with the placing of the boning in my attempts, because one of the purposes I feel I need a bra is for martial arts because I have a noticeable amount of breast tissue wrapping around my ribcage under my armpit and that really hurts when somone kneels on it when they're pinning me, so I typically wear an underwire bra to keep the girls aimed in front. Oddly, I don't mind a well-fitted underwire at all, it's the tight band underneath holding the bra from slipping up over my boobs that I mind... sometimes even free-range boobies need a little bit of support!

    • @raraavis7782
      @raraavis7782 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I'm the same. Bra bands annoy the heck out of me. I don't know, how people put up with wearing them all day. I wear a soft, microfiber bralette, if I have to...and preferably not even that. I'm super sensitive, when it comes to clothing anyway, though.
      Nothing tight or restricting is tolerable for more than 2-3 hours for me. Sighs.

    • @majsmarken118
      @majsmarken118 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I only wear a bra to work or going out. Bra is the first thing I get rid of when I’m home 😀😀

    • @queenmcroyal6186
      @queenmcroyal6186 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This sounds very familiar😅 in my own experiments i have found that diagonal boning works wonders! I never understood the purpose of underwires but having boning run sort of from armpit height down to center front is both comfortable and supportive to keep the ladies from moving sideways!! If you want an example maybe you can search for 1790s linnen jumps (I know it roams around on pinterest and instagram) just to see the direction of the boning bc I'm not sure my explanation makes it clear😂😂 i was so surprised about having support without restricting my ribcage with an elastic even though the fabric isn't stretchy at all!

    • @HiNinqi
      @HiNinqi ปีที่แล้ว

      Please post your progress! I definitely share an interest in this endeavor but dont have a sewing machine to do any attempts. Mine has been stolen twice now...

    • @bunhelsingslegacy3549
      @bunhelsingslegacy3549 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HiNinqi I actually put the thing together at the end of 2022 out of two layers of linen using an antique hand crank machine, but I could have hand-sewn it, I would have just made three layers instead of two and made the boning channels between two inner layers instead of stitching separate channels. Mocked it up with cotton twill Ikea curtains, reversed the slant on the sideboob bone on one side and found it held things up front and centre better that way so I switched the other side... mockup is comfortable for about an hour then starts pinching my lower ribs so I need to open it up at the bottom a bit and maybe relocate the bones that hit the very sides of my ribcage cause I found a tiny bruise after I'd had it on, though I may well have done that to myself trying to adjust it. For the record, my mockup from Ikea curtains was all hand sewn together and the hem from the curtain made PERFECT mockup boning chanels that I could just base in place till I was happy with the placement. Or thought I was, it's still a work in progress but at least an almost wearable one! I might try making a lightly boned lace up vest from the pattern I wound up with, but the linen one has a zipper.

  • @LadyArtemis13
    @LadyArtemis13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    This is all the research I wanted to know but not actually do 😂 Thank you for your service. I'm making a ribbon corset right now!

  • @janicela9863
    @janicela9863 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Oh my gosh! Almost drooling when I saw that Fairy Brassiere. It is so beautiful and functional. Why, oh why do we have bras made of synthetic materials when we could have this incredible bra that would breathe?
    Thank you for sharing this bit of history and your impeccable sewing skills. My eyes and patience would no longer be up to create a masterpiece such as this 👏

  • @terrychristens9110
    @terrychristens9110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I grew up in the south in the 1950’s and there was a woman who called herself a corset maker. Perhaps still supplying some of the ladies born in the late 1800’s who were comfortable in their old familiar supportive corsets.

  • @asilverfoxintasmania9940
    @asilverfoxintasmania9940 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    ohh so nice to know it wasn't a man that invented the bra. That never made sense to me that we went from corsets straight to a bra and it did away with the corset. That it transitioned into a girdle makes so much more sense. The other slightly distressing thing is that even today we are still buying garments to try and make our selves fit the "ideal" silhouette....

  • @indigohalf
    @indigohalf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I think of the 1910s and 20s as the "Cambrian explosion" of women's supportive garments. The underbust corset left an ecological niche that was filled by a profusion of new forms!

    • @pseudo.account
      @pseudo.account 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ahahaha I love the analogy

  • @DuarneArt
    @DuarneArt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    History lessons with Nicole! Yay. What I really appreciate is that you flash pictures of the articles you referenced for your video essay, but you don't just read them- you interpret them. Thanks for being an intelligent youtuber and scholar.

  • @krysil1221
    @krysil1221 3 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    As a woman with a considerable amount of acreage upstairs it's always required considerable support. I absolutely hate underwire bras so perhaps making one more like what you have made might be the ticket to being more comfortable. At the very least I'll have something pretty to wear which, sadly, I don't often find now.

    • @devinbaggs7542
      @devinbaggs7542 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This is like an "overwire" bra :D

    • @bobbibuttons8730
      @bobbibuttons8730 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I’m exactly the same Krystal. This may be worth making.

    • @ayjamay
      @ayjamay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      See you and I only like underwire bras everything else makes me feel floppy 😂

    • @button4631
      @button4631 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I've always found the old cross your heart soft cup bras to be more supportive than underwires which often leave wounds on my chub.

    • @katherinemorelle7115
      @katherinemorelle7115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@button4631 yes! I’m currently wearing a cross your heart longline bra. It’s the only bra I wear (other than this, I wear corsets). It not only supports my AU G cups (that’s an H or I in US cups, I think), but it also supports my upper back instead of hurting it.
      The only draw back for me is that it only goes to the waist, and therefore doesn’t support my lower back like a corset would. But it is my far the most comfortable and supportive bra I’ve ever owned (and I’ve owned many). There’s boning in the side front to keep it all nice and straight, but there are no underwires. Still fare more supportive than any underwire that has ever existed.

  • @TechKnowCat
    @TechKnowCat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    what i want to know is, why we stopped wearing a chemise under the brassieres? we need to bring that back ...or maybe i need to stop wearing cheap bras lol

    • @NicoleRudolph
      @NicoleRudolph  3 ปีที่แล้ว +206

      I think it's because as the corset dropped, we needed something under that. But we also needed something OVER the brassiere so that it wouldn't show through sheer outer layers. Hence the slip became the full body garment, but as a mid layer. The chemise just protected agains the corset or girdle and eventually became shorts (knickers, etc) and then more fitted underwear. I really need to do a video on that garments transition at some point!

    • @fridabafverfeldt2008
      @fridabafverfeldt2008 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@NicoleRudolph yes, that would make a really interesting video. please do!

    • @angellover02171
      @angellover02171 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Why do you feel you need a chemise? Is it the underwire?

    • @coolthinghere6853
      @coolthinghere6853 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@angellover02171 they probably mean the cheaper synthetic fabrics the bras are made of, they usually arent very breathable 😩
      but seams not being finished enough to prevent itching could be another point too

    • @bridgetthewench
      @bridgetthewench 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@coolthinghere6853 Itchy bra seams are the bane of my existence. And they happen in even more expensive bras sometimes!

  • @daxxydog5777
    @daxxydog5777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    My father said his mother wore a corset until the day she died in 1948.

  • @ebelskivers123
    @ebelskivers123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    As a music historian I come to historical dress TH-cam half the time just to hear the research aspects! And I mean the clothes are spectacular too😉! 💚

  • @LiterarySnob
    @LiterarySnob 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    As a very large busted old lady, I would think there would be the ladies that still wanted their favorite corset. As we cling to our favorite bra styles now. I have a feeling that the first one could work for large busted ladies. I was so in awe of your beautiful sewing! All was pressed and it shows off your meticulous to stitching!

    • @lady_sir_knight3713
      @lady_sir_knight3713 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Absolutely, if you look through the comments you can see several people sharing stories about older relatives who hung onto their Edwardian corsets.

    • @katherinemorelle7115
      @katherinemorelle7115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maria at Sew Through Time made a 19teens brassiere that does an excellent job supporting a larger bust. Even jumping up and down, there was not a single jiggle. It was very impressive.

  • @sylviapesek5193
    @sylviapesek5193 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fascinating, as always, and such a delight to watch. I was born in 1946, and when I was a little girl, I would watch in awe as my grandmother would first don her teddies, then her "shimmy" (chemise), then her corset, and finally her bra (which she pronounced "bray"). She was born in Louisiana in 1880, lived until 1975, and probably wore all those undergarments until she was at least 90. I found it fascinating, and rather daunting!

    • @LittleKitty22
      @LittleKitty22 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why did she wear a bra AND a corset?

  • @logandodson1484
    @logandodson1484 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You know someone is passionate about a subject when they are excited to learn that everything they thought they knew about something was wrong (because it means they have a new opportunity to do more research lol). Loved your video.

  • @learikosontcuit7129
    @learikosontcuit7129 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    If anyone is interested Brassiere in French in a cupless bra that teens wear when we start having breast but not enough te wear an actual bra. And lucky adults with small or firm breast are now going back to it because it might be healthier for the body. So it does look similar to these 1910 bust support thingy.

    • @BethAge95
      @BethAge95 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah, i totally love those! gives a little bit of support, but is not as tight as a sports bra and way more comfy than sth with cups and/or hooks in the back

    • @learikosontcuit7129
      @learikosontcuit7129 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@BethAge95 for me they add too little support to move around but I like that they prevent the underboob sweat situation so I wear them at home 💜

    • @mandarinadreux9572
      @mandarinadreux9572 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah, I only wear brassiere type tops or really loose sports bras now. But I do have smallish boobs (I don't even know what cup size they would translate to, maybe 70B or something), and they would hold in place naturally (although they do kind of hang lol). But it does give you a very different silhouette! Very boyish. I like the thought of it just being a vintage silhouette :) the early brassieres look so pretty.
      it's also a more natural silhouette. I've talked to boys who had a hard time finding naked women attractive because their natural breasts looked so different from what is accentuated with modern bras...

    • @infamoussphere7228
      @infamoussphere7228 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      haha, I call them "fake bras"! I'm only a b, I mostly wear them to prevent nipple chafing.

    • @Udontkno7
      @Udontkno7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      practice bras!

  • @LindaUrsin
    @LindaUrsin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Over here in Scandinavia, it's called a breast holder :) BH for short. That Fairy bra looks like something much more comfortable to wear in summer than modern ones, which don't breathe at all. Being a larger size (very large according to modern sizing) the second one wouldn't work for me without boning, as everything would migrate to a point in the middle :D (Sports bras do that)

  • @foxyember
    @foxyember 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The snuggle time moment, in the end, was super sweet.

  • @paisley293
    @paisley293 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You should have 370K subscribers very soon. :) You do such precise, lovely work.

  • @therustysquirrel7760
    @therustysquirrel7760 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love watching your videos, so much information and detail. I also love the vibe of your format, so in keeping with the vintage feel. Your voice and presentation are so soothing and enjoyable to watch. Thanks you for presenting such quality content for us to enjoy. A special thanks for the videos on mid nineteen teens items!!!! I adore the 1915-1919 era of clothing; it is vintage yet can be very easily worn today. So thank you for including this time period on your channel, not many on TH-cam currently do. I hope you include more from this time period in future, especially armistice style blouses, I want a closet full of them in all colors and collar styles, so stinking cute!!!

  • @deborahduthie4519
    @deborahduthie4519 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The look it gave was a, what my Grandmother called Matronly. Very correct for the period. Well done Nicole👏🏼

  • @kitdubhran2968
    @kitdubhran2968 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This was super interesting! So cool to note that bras did not kill the corset.
    Also looks like something I might be able to make myself. I might try this out.

  • @jennypaxton8159
    @jennypaxton8159 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I found a 1950s(?) bullet bra at a thrift store. A welcome addition to my collection of historical stuff!

    • @lesliehuhl
      @lesliehuhl 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Wish I still had my mom's!

  • @ascdancer
    @ascdancer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This was so incredibly interesting! I might give that first one a try for my ownself! 😊

  •  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This might interest someone: In French bras were (or are) called soutien or soutien-gorge, and the word soutien went with the garment to many places as they were importing either the clothing or the patterns to make them locally. Also, in many occasions French designers travelled or even established themselves abroad, so naturally they used their own terminology in French.
    In some Spanish speaking countries the term soutien was translated to sostén, both meaning the same (support). In other countries they used the original word without changes.

  • @bobbibuttons8730
    @bobbibuttons8730 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love the way you pronounce brassiere Nicole. It’s so different from how we pronounce it here in Scotland
    My grandmother who was born in 1890 always referred to her girdle as her corset or her stays lol. She lived in a small village who would not be at the forefront of fashion

  • @mackenziew
    @mackenziew 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m so glad this passes the all important bounce test

  • @michelleneumann2413
    @michelleneumann2413 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That was both interesting and enlightening! I would love for you to show us the construction of the blouse you are wearing with the high waisted navy skirt. I am desirous of the Safari type Out of Africa fashions to come back. They did in the early 80s with the cotton blouses that fit closer to the body, buttoned in the front with pointed collars and large puffy sleeves that narrowed to the wrist. I had several of those blouses, and I LOVED them.

    • @jennreeder9237
      @jennreeder9237 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love the clothing styles in Out of Africa, as well!

  • @playdohgolem2832
    @playdohgolem2832 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You truly have some of the best historical costuming videos on youtube! Always a joy to see you've uploaded something new. I'll definitely need to make this one of my next projects.

  • @astra1653
    @astra1653 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah, they both definitely surprised me too! I wasn't expecting as much bust support... more like a wish and a prayer, but nope, they came through in the baggage department. Nice!
    And I love the little snippet at the end where your pupper comes up and says, "Mama, quit talking to the furniture, it's time for snuggles." 💕 So sweet! ❤

  • @debe8890
    @debe8890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    My grandmother wore a vest, which is basically a women's version of a sleevless t-shirt. She was born in 1884 and died in 1981 (96 years) and she tucked this vest into her panties which looked similar to men's boxers. When I was a teen in the 1960's my sister's and I thought this was hilarious.

    • @pseudo.account
      @pseudo.account 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Was her vest supportive in any way? Was it tight to support the breasts, or loose like a slip?

    • @amethystanne4586
      @amethystanne4586 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don’t remember what my maternal grandmother(1890-1974) wore on the top. She did wear a slip, and underpants like what your grandmother did - similar to loose above-knee pajama pants. She sewed all her clothing except for her stockings(Sears&Roebuck catalog ). She made her slips and underpants, pieced out from the not-worn-out sections of the white flat sheets that were too worn to be used on the beds in the home.

    • @marywebb9127
      @marywebb9127 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Deb E The underwear that you say looked like men's boxers are called tap pants. I wear them over my garter belts and girdles.

    • @amethystanne4586
      @amethystanne4586 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marywebb9127 ..... when I was in Middle school and early high school years(1966-1970), I would put on my garter belt and stockings first, and wear the underwear on top. It was way easier to use the rest room.

    • @marywebb9127
      @marywebb9127 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@amethystanne4586 That's what I meant and worded it wrong. I fixed it.

  • @francesca3453
    @francesca3453 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks. Really good presentation. Something to add... WWI material moratorium put many corset companies out of business and some went into weapons manufacturing. Also invention of auto made driving in a corset very hard.

  • @maywenearedhel
    @maywenearedhel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I'm so interested in making my own bras. I hate lycra and elastic fabrics because I need a lot of support for a 34 E sized bust.

    • @india1422
      @india1422 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve made some of my own bras. Beautiful fabrics and patterns out there

    • @pseudo.account
      @pseudo.account 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oof, and those 34E bras are probably pretty expensive too, I would imagine you have to get those from specialty stores.

    • @lady_sir_knight3713
      @lady_sir_knight3713 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      _cries in 30G_

    • @pseudo.account
      @pseudo.account 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lady_sir_knight3713 😭 what hath god wrought upon your poor soul

    • @lady_sir_knight3713
      @lady_sir_knight3713 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@pseudo.account and yet i am much better off than my poor 24H friend. sub-28 bands just aren't made above b cups. only children are that small, doncha know.

  • @ladyslippergrove
    @ladyslippergrove 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My grandmother wore a corset all her adult life until the mid-1950s. She was a very hard working woman. She said that she had never had a backache in her life.

  • @kayta84
    @kayta84 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love when rabbit hole grabs people. I learn so much😊

  • @MissMagic
    @MissMagic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the idea of the bra being not just comfortable (what!) but also size adjustable. If only I had the patience for such tiny hems!

  • @VtorHunter
    @VtorHunter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I made a brassier for my 1910s motoring outfit and Foundations Revealed entry this year. I used Wearing History's pattern because it happened to be my size and it is so comfy!

  • @stephc6545
    @stephc6545 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Really interesting, I was thinking of trying to make my own underwear despite being a novice, and this looks like a good place to start!

  • @roxiepoe9586
    @roxiepoe9586 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First bra, age 10, 1966. In 1968 I started 'junior high' at age 12 - and I wore a girdle! It was the means by which I held up my stockings- all nice girls wore stockings as all girls wore skirts/dresses. At Christmas that year I got a garter belt and shed the girdle with delight! The only problem then, was keeping the garter belt up! One day it lost it's grip and down it went. There is no event that still gives me the shudders like the memory of garter belt and stockings around my ankles in the hall of Lincoln Junior High. That summer I discovered panty hose and never looked back. :)

    • @argusfleibeit1165
      @argusfleibeit1165 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm about your age. Did you ever deal with the "garter belt and sanitary pad belt at the same time" problem? What a fiasco. Trying to get in and out of gym clothes, or having to walk home with that. One time I ended up with the pad all the way shifted up over my behind. Were we ever grateful for panty hose and tampons-- YES.

    • @lenabreijer1311
      @lenabreijer1311 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes. This so much! Girdle or "corset" to hold up the stockings. And those nasty all cotton pointy bra with only 2 inches of elastic at the back that had to be replaced every few months and straps with no give.

    • @marywebb9127
      @marywebb9127 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have never had that problem. Your garter belt must have been too big. I have had those stupid plastic garter clips come loose that they make most out of. I will never use plastic garter clips again only metal.

  • @susanna3295
    @susanna3295 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The history of undergarments is always interesting and they both do look comfy!

  • @charlarp
    @charlarp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    They turned out beautifully! I would love to explore this because I can’t wear underwire bras but I really need the support and lift as I am well endowed. Great video as usual! Thank you!

    • @katherinemorelle7115
      @katherinemorelle7115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You might find the video Maria at Sew Through Time did really interesting- she made a 19teens brassiere that fully supports her larger bust- even jumping up and down there wasn’t even a single jiggle! It was quite impressive.

  • @kjtherrick4031
    @kjtherrick4031 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for this very timely vlog! I was actually wondering when bras "replaced" corsets, especially because the corsets in the early 20th century were looking more like girdles, which it turns out: they became! Nice to know what seems to make sense generally equates to what was/is! I also like the idea of a comfortable bra. This was a very worthwhile rabbit hole to venture into!

  • @cincocats320
    @cincocats320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love rabbit holes! In my search for a perfect bra, I have been contemplating adjusting a corset cover pattern. Good to know I'm on the right track and will achieve what I want for a mid teens silouette. Thanks for great research links too.

  • @jmicha91
    @jmicha91 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's so fascinating and informative! Thank you.

  • @tesstiny
    @tesstiny 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this looks so comfy and I definitely want to make one now. Thanks for the amazing video!

  • @fridabafverfeldt2008
    @fridabafverfeldt2008 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i feel like I always learn so much from your videos, thank you!

  • @mfg2324
    @mfg2324 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    so great info and work!

  • @jaicabardo4357
    @jaicabardo4357 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    subbed! this was so informative! the brassiere looks so comfy and looks so secure!

  • @Carmen-bu3gx
    @Carmen-bu3gx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This looks amazing on you too! Well done!!

  • @EmeraldVideosNL
    @EmeraldVideosNL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can I just say what a nice touch the wig is. Everytime you wear it with period outfits instantly makes the picture complete!

  • @vivijd14
    @vivijd14 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Fun fact: french Canadians and Québécois do use the word « brassière » for bra, (as well as « soutien-gorge »)!

    • @fishinwidow35
      @fishinwidow35 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, the French-Canadians in Maine do for sure

  • @Devanrealness
    @Devanrealness 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was great! I've always loved undergarment history. 💕

  • @margotdieu3932
    @margotdieu3932 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a super great and informative video, and I definitely need to try something like this out for myself too!

  • @mama_mahar
    @mama_mahar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I haven't even made it past the three minute mark because I'm SO DISTRACTED by Nicole's gorgeous sweater. I keep pausing the video to see if I can decipher the lace pattern and whatnot. 😂

  • @NoviceStitcher
    @NoviceStitcher 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i am loving your videos. you make everything seem so easy. I can only aspire to such ease.

  • @robinhahnsopran
    @robinhahnsopran 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is fascinating! And your passion for this subject is so infectious. I could like this video over and over.

  • @bluexroses414
    @bluexroses414 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love that you upload on Sundays because I get to make myself a Sunday brunch and sit down and watch a nice long discussion of bras.

  • @dorota1504
    @dorota1504 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your videos Nicole. Thank you for researching and sharing the knowledge. You never stop surprising me :D.

  • @canucknancy4257
    @canucknancy4257 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those look great! Thanks for sharing.

  • @SuperNovaSirius
    @SuperNovaSirius 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing and super educational. Thank you for sharing.

  • @albertoyo5681
    @albertoyo5681 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love your work!!! It is so helpfull!!

  • @janicemcalisterdouglas6306
    @janicemcalisterdouglas6306 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stunning!

  • @mjgbabydragonlet
    @mjgbabydragonlet 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So Good! Looks great too!

  • @ingridsturesson6593
    @ingridsturesson6593 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a perfect video! Thank you!

  • @aussieauntynette6892
    @aussieauntynette6892 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for your time and effort you have put on these Nicole, great vid 👍😁 Love what you made 💝
    Have a fabulous day 🦘🇦🇺🦘

  • @yvetteaguirre9522
    @yvetteaguirre9522 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m so sold! 💖💖💖 I love this! The info...I’ve been schooled into the world of corset and bra wear of the 1910s! Excellent research, Nicole!

  • @laurahi3468
    @laurahi3468 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This looks really beautiful and honestly surprisingly secure all around! I hope one day I will be able to also design a garment based on research and analysing images, your skills absolutely amaze me!!

  • @vixenwinter7963
    @vixenwinter7963 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was such a wonderful and educational video, thank you for taking us through this journey. Very fun and informative.

  • @teacheraprilrogers
    @teacheraprilrogers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As always Nicole and Abby make my Sundays a happy place. This is a video I wanted and I am so excited to see it. I am fascinated by mens and womens under garments. My students are always asking about underwear no matter the historical time period. My knowledge is now much more expanded.

  • @kaytiej8311
    @kaytiej8311 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this brilliant research.

  • @ZipZipInkspot
    @ZipZipInkspot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So appreciated the careful research: it would make an excellent article for one of the dress journals. Your test garment was cut and fitted so well...loved seeing the silhouette come alive.

  • @dandeliondew
    @dandeliondew 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the little comfort dance at the end :)

  • @elizabethclaiborne6461
    @elizabethclaiborne6461 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Watching you make that bra was revisiting my first Wacoal fitting, not so very much has changed.

  • @TheMetatronGirl
    @TheMetatronGirl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was completely fascinating! Thanks for providing links to the articles you found. It’s so nice to know that people of the past weren’t necessarily just made of tougher stuff, they liked being comfortable, too. It’s also wonderful to continually learn that newer isn’t always better or smarter. Have a terrific week, and I am DYING of anticipation for your shoe video!!!
    Hooray for fur baby content!! I just love dogs so much, and yours is adorable!

  • @mouseluva
    @mouseluva 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a great video! Your channel is so underrated/undersubscribed!

  • @medicalherbalist2216
    @medicalherbalist2216 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We are down the same rabbit hole! I've been reading and trawling 1910's underwear styles and making for some months now. I'm trying to rationalise all the items that I want to make too. Love your video - as ever. Such a wonderful mix of information, analysis and doing. Thank you.

  • @katjas9150
    @katjas9150 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for sharing all this information with us.
    1910's outfit has been on my sewing list and this was a missing puzzle piece. I am much closer to starting my project now that I know much more about the era's bust support methods.

  • @venetiancat
    @venetiancat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ou7r videos are wonderfully informative andf makes my Inner Nerd so happy, always look forward to watching them! I want to hang out with you

  • @AnniundLilo
    @AnniundLilo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks really good.well done.

  • @heatherbottoms5813
    @heatherbottoms5813 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for showing the fiddley bits. There is so much detail about making a garment that no one shows.....

  • @kekjo611
    @kekjo611 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kismet!! I am currently going down a rabbit hole trying to recreate the appropriate undergarments for my 1920s recreation. Slightly earlier than what I need, but it definitely is confirming some things for me and steering me in the right direction. Thank you!!!

  • @serenacolavincenzo6989
    @serenacolavincenzo6989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, thank you. This video was very informative. I've always wanted to know what was the style of underwear at the turn of the century and in the pre-war era. The way you tell and explain everything is top notch!

  • @bowerbirdstyle7661
    @bowerbirdstyle7661 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this! I've been wanting to learn how to make a bra and this was very informative.

  • @AriallaMacAllister
    @AriallaMacAllister 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was wondering about several of these same questions just yesterday, including wondering about whether the girdle was just an evolution of the corset. Thank you for this great exploration!

  • @RianShafer
    @RianShafer ปีที่แล้ว

    I was enjoying your video but the ending made me hit the sub & bell buttons!

  • @MisSiszY
    @MisSiszY 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Fascinating. Also amazing that quite a simple, comfortable, construction does such a great job.
    Also did you ever think youd be uploading videos of yourself in underwear for strangers on the Internet? 😂 (I often think about the warnings received in the early days of the internet and how many of those are now normal 😂 summoning strangers to get in their car, talking to strangers all over the place and people often times sharing their exact locations all over the place. )

  • @creepydoll2872
    @creepydoll2872 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks so pretty!

  • @makeda6530
    @makeda6530 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love a good rabbit hole.
    Oh that fairy health brassiere actually is absolutely adorable!

  • @katherinelambton3534
    @katherinelambton3534 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This makes so much sense!

  • @cassiesews
    @cassiesews 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    that brazierre/corset looks amazing!