Battlefield 5's Gunplay is TRASH: Here's Why

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  • @nickelbf
    @nickelbf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +232

    based

  • @Baranox
    @Baranox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +176

    The fact no one else had made this video already is frightening.

    • @jontonge2510
      @jontonge2510 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@IlNamelessKinglI not really, its just your mainstream battlefield TH-camr (who all pretty much play cod warzone or have moved on to making other content) is ignorant and misinformed

    • @MrDwieszopyjackson
      @MrDwieszopyjackson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@IlNamelessKinglI Definitely unpopular opinion here, but I really think BF1 (of all things) has better gunplay that BFV. There's random bullet spray, yes, but for the most part you absolutely _can_ hit what you aim at. Same situation in both games: using SMG against enemy lying prone 4-5 meters away. BF1: hipfire his ass, ez win. BFV: how is that guy still alive?

    • @Maekiii
      @Maekiii 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's because he is clueless and pretty much nothing he said in this video makes any sense.

    • @EndersFPS
      @EndersFPS  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Maekiii you’re the clueless one

    • @Maekiii
      @Maekiii 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EndersFPS Then why does all my friends that are battlefield veterans say that bf5 has the best gunplay of alll battlefield games? and the vast majority of bf players in general?

  • @deeecim2044
    @deeecim2044 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    No wonder why semi-autos like Turner feel like "cheater" weapons, cause they actually shoot there you aim

    • @EndersFPS
      @EndersFPS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      "There's a reason for everything."

    • @SuperValdez7
      @SuperValdez7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Turner smle squad turn up

    • @Kenton_Stills
      @Kenton_Stills ปีที่แล้ว

      Wait, guns aren't supposed to spray in a weird ass cone around the barrel? Someone call up Dice!

  • @sgt.recker7227
    @sgt.recker7227 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    This man is a rare one, he doesn't sugarcoat or bullshit at all. Just speak straight facts. Keep up the fantastic work bro.

    • @daegnaxqelil2733
      @daegnaxqelil2733 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      no you say because you're his devoted fan

  • @Amelia-rb5uj
    @Amelia-rb5uj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    That shiny massive forehead was irradiating facts during the whole video. I love it.

  • @MemestiffGaming
    @MemestiffGaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    BFV recoil be like: ➡️⬇️⬆️↗️⤵️↩↘️

  • @lnvrtd
    @lnvrtd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Don't hold your breath for BF6; where there's Dogbot, there's DogShit.

    • @Jimb0b1111
      @Jimb0b1111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It will be plagued with cheaters and have no anti cheat,for that reason i won't be investing.

    • @Y_Spiky_T
      @Y_Spiky_T 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jimb0b1111 you don't know that

    • @Jimb0b1111
      @Jimb0b1111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Y_Spiky_T Going on the level of anti cheat investment made by EA which lets face it has been none then sadly i do.The report system does not work even with clear hard evidence you do not get banned.I've personally video'd and reported cheater after cheater,some multiple times when they have changed their name.Not 1 was banned and they can still play now.I privated the videos,sent the link in report and they didn't get 1 view.EA could not even be arsed to check the evidence i gathered for them and that was when the game was supported.
      I played this dogshit game yesterday for some bizarre reason,1st server cheater,2nd server 2 cheaters.It has plagued BF dogshit all its life and it will infect BF 6 as well.
      Stopping cheaters costs money,money EA will not waste.They won't have to waste it because everyone will blindly buy wether an effective anticheat is there or not.
      Sorry i wish i was wrong but i am not.

    • @eric4681702
      @eric4681702 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jimb0b1111 agree there, it would also be highly unlikely that EA has developed the perfect anti-cheat software and processes, but they are not rolling it out on any of their high-income-earning games right now because they are holding it back for the new BF. If they had something in the make they would gradually increase anti-cheat efforts on BF5 to test it out and send a signal to hackers. Instead nobody gets banned and they have zero interest in cheaters.

  • @VfLBossnabrueck
    @VfLBossnabrueck 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Indeed, even on console you feel the random recoil. Especially on ZK and Grease Gun

    • @tonywarsx6390
      @tonywarsx6390 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Indeed it's just such a bullshit, like those 2 guns are my most used medic weapons and sometimes I feel like a God using them and other times for some reason i can't even kill a random level 3 with the sten because my gun just won't shoot at where I'm actually trying to shoot. It's driving me to insanity

    • @leafgreensniper13
      @leafgreensniper13 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      is it just me, or is the Thompson even worse like that? I'd take the zk over the thompson any day

    • @jontonge2510
      @jontonge2510 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@leafgreensniper13 honestly i think the zk is SLIGHLTY more predictable than the tommy gun, but maybe it’s player dependent

  • @coskunsmacbasanogullar7413
    @coskunsmacbasanogullar7413 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    AVERAGE BF5 ENJOYER

  • @Raskolnikov2212
    @Raskolnikov2212 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This is basically why I dont like movement on Battlefield V because of the recoil not being center of the screen.

  • @WrexBF
    @WrexBF 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I wish gunplay was the only thing that's wrong in BFV. I personally think that everything is wrong in that game. From those blurry graphics to the atmosphere to vehicles to the animation-infested movement to map design to attrition.

    • @Hitokiri1912
      @Hitokiri1912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Really? I personally thought that maps weren't too bad and the atmosphere in terms of how the maps feel it fell great tank movement is awesome extremely easy to use the graphics are amazing the only problems for me was the sjw bullshit and the fact that for months it didn't really feel like ww2

    • @WrexBF
      @WrexBF 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Hitokiri1912 It sounds like BFV is the only battlefield game you ever played.

    • @Hitokiri1912
      @Hitokiri1912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@WrexBF it isnt ive played bf1 and bf4 aswell as a sprinkle of bad company aswell as battlefield 1941

    • @Hitokiri1912
      @Hitokiri1912 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xkt3c mhm

    • @whiteouthamstra
      @whiteouthamstra ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I am glad I finally found someone to mention this, everyone always says how good it looks.
      I’m a new player to bf5 in 2022. I refused to get it until now and have been loyal to bf4 and bf1. Loaded up the game for the first time today and was incredibly disappointed at how it looks. From lazy textures to poor animations to the entire lighting be way to bright to be a ww2 atmosphere. In fact the only thing I haven’t found a issue with so far is the gunplay lol but I only have about a hour of game time so far and will probably just go back to bf1

  • @seraph-m
    @seraph-m 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    finally someone mentions how bf1's gunplay is actually fundamentally sound (even if it has too much visual recoil). so many people hate it because they are ignorant about how it actually works. if you understand how it actually works and use weapons at the vaguely correct distance, you can reach TTK's similar to / faster than BF4 due to the chunky damage model. the spread is actually easy to manage in general, allowing for longer full auto bursts, only slightly more varied than the widely-used but not always applicable microbursting from BF4.

    • @mre1995
      @mre1995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      BF1's gunplay is far too restrictive and the map design is not built around the weapon balance. It was boring because every gun was overpowered at a specific range and useless outside of it.

    • @brunomartinello7507
      @brunomartinello7507 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@IlNamelessKinglI Well.. i understand that the majority hates that level of supression and how it really forces you to wait a few seconds before peeking again.. if we stop to analize, DICE tried to make supression's effectiveness very similar to supression in real life gun fights... because.. if your opponent shots are well placed the supression effect you'll have to deal with WILL make you quit that gunfight for a few seconds, and if you dont quit that gunfight in real life you'll be making a dumb decision 98% of the times.

    • @astroturf5549
      @astroturf5549 ปีที่แล้ว

      If I'm 10 ft away from the enemy and I'm spraying them with an entire magazine while aiming down sights something is wrong with that

    • @octoslut
      @octoslut 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      what people hated bf1 gunplay?? losers lol it was perfect in my experience.

  • @sickasshandy3543
    @sickasshandy3543 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Oh wow 8 minutes of enders staring into my eyes 😍 today is a good day

    • @EndersFPS
      @EndersFPS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      lmfaooooo

    • @RonDaGod
      @RonDaGod 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EndersFPS he’s so hot omg

  • @christosvasiliadis5895
    @christosvasiliadis5895 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The intro is 1:1 when the english teacher comes back from being out and the sub leaves a bad note

  • @Rookiie
    @Rookiie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Gone is the Golden Age of Games, exponentially replaced by corporate shills looking for the next big pre-order bonus...

  • @DANNYonPC
    @DANNYonPC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    1. you're always pissed
    2. random recoil is awful and i cant believe people think its good

    • @EndersFPS
      @EndersFPS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Im not always mad lol

  • @hunter4243
    @hunter4243 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Overall it’s just a complete terrible game. Sometimes my gun has literally 0 recoil sometimes I can’t hit not one shot from medium distance.

  • @immortowelz
    @immortowelz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    BF1 > BFV
    I never knew this, i was annoyed by all the other changes.

  • @RNeeko
    @RNeeko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    This video is the best summary of why BFV's gunplay feels so terrible and unfun. I will never understand how people think this 'game' has the best gunplay since BF3. Truly blows my mind. How can you enjoy the gunplay of a game where your aim is pulled in any direction randomly with every shot. I guess it doesn't really matter as much for people whose aim randomly pulls in any direction anyway because they never learned to control their mouse and sensitivity.

    • @TJ-100
      @TJ-100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s because the people who suck can finally feel equal

  • @edizcabbar3260
    @edizcabbar3260 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    5:00 THANK YOU! This needs to be said in every video about Battlefield gunplay. Spread is an integral part of FPS games and its demonization in BF1 by ignorant youtubers is why we have this trash system in BFV.

    • @dokkie9979
      @dokkie9979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Theres still games with no spread, or atleast so minimal it doesnt take effect except at extreme ranges. Warzone and apex are like that. And apex imo has one of the best gunplays out there, besides the absurdly long ttk. But having extremely consistent recoil patterns + no spread on ur bullets makes up for the long ttk and makes the gunplay + movement really skillful and enjoyable when ure actually good, it rewards you alot for having good aim.

    • @Deliverygirl
      @Deliverygirl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dokkie9979 MW doesn't have spread but it has recoil which functions the exact same way. It's just less of it because COD has a more beamer gameplay for smaller playercounts.

    • @dokkie9979
      @dokkie9979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Deliverygirl cod mw still has pattern recoils, its not completely randomized tho, theres variety to recoil but in general it always goes in the same direction every time u shoot the same gun

    • @mre1995
      @mre1995 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The first shot accuracy was too low though, too little first shot recoil and too much damage drop off. Plus too little headshot damage. Add in suppression and a multitude of other BS and BF1's gunplay is easily the worst of the franchise.

    • @Ashar121
      @Ashar121 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mre1995 there was both suppression and spread in BF3 and BF4

  • @toggle_blackbox9125
    @toggle_blackbox9125 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I appreciate how well spoken and angry you are about this. Fingers crossed for a better game.

  • @rareracecar
    @rareracecar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I knew Tbag was a casual saying "random bullet deviation"

    • @jontonge2510
      @jontonge2510 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-id9fh7qj5j between who?

    • @jontonge2510
      @jontonge2510 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-id9fh7qj5j there is none, only one is made up by ignorant TH-camrs (deviation)

    • @AdogFTW
      @AdogFTW 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don’t see the point. If it’s the same thing, why is it correct to say one term, but not the other?

    • @rareracecar
      @rareracecar 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AdogFTW spread and random bullet deviation are different things. Spread is the bullets moving in a predictable pattern. In battlefield 1 there is no random bullet deviation since the first shot you always take with a gun in that game is accurate then it starts to get less accurate the second shot then it gets more accurate the longer you fire. Random bullet deviation isn’t a thing but random recoil is a thing in battlefield 5

    • @janakinb5495
      @janakinb5495 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AdogFTW Spread means your weapon gets less accurate the more you spam it. It also means you can counter it by not spamming your shots. It also means it is not random. You know why your weapon becomes less accurate.

  • @Realhardrockgrunge
    @Realhardrockgrunge 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and straight to the point. And to thing there are many other problems besides those related to gunplay like bad map design for the most part, lack of anticheat or balance, getting stuck everywhere, problems with hit reg and the list goes on and on

  • @lblower3
    @lblower3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    follow up video on the best type of gunplay in an FPS??? or which FPS game gunplay you think would be best for the BF franchise.

    • @EndersFPS
      @EndersFPS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Literally give me BF3, BF4, BF1, anything but this gunplay. I'm not picky about gunplay, just DON'T make it randomized to this extent, ever. I have never complained about gunplay in a game before to this extent, not even BF1.

    • @quasigod1083
      @quasigod1083 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bf3, 4, 1, titanfall 2, and apex have some of the best gunplay in fps games

    • @dokkie9979
      @dokkie9979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@EndersFPS apex legends imo has the best gunplay ive experienced so far, recoils have patterns, there deviation to the recoil, but its minimal and each mag will u fire will look almost identical with very slight deviations. While ads afaik has no form of spread at all, 100% accurate, bullets always hit where the center of your screen is besides bullet drop, but thats purely vertical and jumping which introduces a little bit of random spread but still very usable at close ranges

  • @Deltara
    @Deltara 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    some things here I definitely didn't know. looks like I had a misinformed take overall on the gunplay comparisons. appreciate the info dude.

  • @chaterdunn251
    @chaterdunn251 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Also can we talk about weird damage models always hitting 98 and 99 damage when they should be dead so bs

    • @CompanyEyaChIMpEXpo
      @CompanyEyaChIMpEXpo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have this so many time dude, so fucked I stop to fire and enemy bust me, this game is joke

  • @dissidentjaws
    @dissidentjaws 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just curious if there are known differences between regions via either localization settings or server side. Has anyone compared these values across all regions? Whether it’s recoil, rbd, spread, etc., are we all playing on a level playing field? Would there be an advantage as an American to playing on Euro servers?

    • @EndersFPS
      @EndersFPS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      there are no region differences lmao

  • @mrsanatra1
    @mrsanatra1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Top 10 things that piss me off and made me uninstall
    1-Bullet sponge enemies
    2-Explosives being random damages
    3-the spotting mechanic is dog shit
    4-planes being trash
    5-weapons being nerfed
    6-maps are trash
    7-cant switch teams
    8-less vehicles & vehicle hijacking for dumb stuff
    9-Randoms spawning into a vehicle while you hold a choke point and they screw you up cause they drive off instead of run to objective
    10-glitches (mines sink into the floor, dying behind cover, any many more)
    Bf5 is garbage and i dont trust DICE/EA for bf6

    • @mrsanatra1
      @mrsanatra1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And lets not forget attrition, squad dependent game play, and so much more. This game was a complete shit show, even now in 2021

    • @EndersFPS
      @EndersFPS  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      PLANES being trash??????????? HAHAHAHA

    • @terranical437
      @terranical437 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      no, planes are ridiculously strong in this game.

  • @ye7617
    @ye7617 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Wish they would take notes

  • @codygreen5513
    @codygreen5513 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Console players feel the recoil too. I don't understand how much more recoil pc players experience, but if its worse than console then God, idk why we still play this shit

    • @EndersFPS
      @EndersFPS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      its absolutely worse

  • @JDJD-mw9rr
    @JDJD-mw9rr ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love how they always put obstacles in front of the stationary weapons. It's planned out perfectly just so
    You can't see shit

  • @viv1d
    @viv1d 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If I was rich, I would rent one of those planes that have the banner behind it, and fly it over DICE Sweden for months with the link to this video.

  • @quasigod1083
    @quasigod1083 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Such a downgrade from past battlefield. Battlefield 4 has awesome fluid gunplay, and something about 1s gunplay is just soo satisfying to play

    • @brunomartinello7507
      @brunomartinello7507 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Too bad BF4 maps are dogshit in decomposition.... and the excessive number of overpowered ultra fast tanks (with fucking thermal btw) didnt let too much space to nice gunfights happen successivelly.
      You start a gunfight, and 1 to 2 seconds later a tank blows your ass up.. then you spawn, destroy the tank after shooting all of your rockets at him.. start running, enter in a gunfight, wins it, and then another tank shows up transforming your in a meat paste again.

    • @brunomartinello7507
      @brunomartinello7507 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Bruce Gender Trans Jenner On BF5 DICE added the option to switch to that BF1 ching.. so BF5 has it too.

    • @Azamat421
      @Azamat421 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brunomartinello7507 spawns are awful too and gunplay is bad too

  • @iamhuman2013
    @iamhuman2013 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I thought I was trippin I play bfv on pc Nd ps4 I was just like why am I losing gun fights where I leave the enemy player on like no health but I lose. Plus guns that I’ve used a lot on the ps4 version feels 10x worse on pc. Like the Thompson has way more recoil on pc than ps4 like I can feel it Nd see it. Yeah I might be finally done wit BFV 😂😂

  • @4uno423
    @4uno423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the idea of the bullets following always the sight, if I knew how my gun exactly moves

    • @ExiLeZH
      @ExiLeZH 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same

  • @tellergaming5643
    @tellergaming5643 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Enders out here speaking facts💯 everything you have mentioned in this video I have noticed I have trouble controlling every gun in the game because of the stupid decisions they made.

  • @r.m2072
    @r.m2072 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i downloaded bf5 for the first time after like 3 year break uninstalled after 3 hours the gunplay was so ass, and i couldnt understand why, not to mention the maps suck and its infested with cheaters, game really is a sack of shite

  • @tm663_uk_7
    @tm663_uk_7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am on console and I can still tell when random recoil is happen. I have no idea how bad it is for pc

    • @EndersFPS
      @EndersFPS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It's worse. So imagine it being worse.

  • @2341bossman
    @2341bossman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    1: the one take is wonderful. 2: ideas on repeating recoil patterns like apex?

    • @EndersFPS
      @EndersFPS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      im not picky with gunplay, just dont do it like bfv

  • @Kiido11
    @Kiido11 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:13
    This is why I subbed
    You understand the PC struggles and mechanics (vs. other BFV youtubers who play console) and so I trust your weapon & playstyle recommendations.

  • @Slothability
    @Slothability 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sometimes I come back and re-watch this to feel validated.

  • @Paytrolah
    @Paytrolah 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    RNG is the worst shit in any game.

  • @jakefromabove_og
    @jakefromabove_og 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Spread is also essential to ballance gun's ideal engagement distances

  • @Remaq07
    @Remaq07 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Completely agree with the fact that a player should ALWAYS have the ability to KNOW whats going on and random recoil sucks, BUT what woukld you want to have for next title? Predictable recoil without spread (and I am talking about heavy recoil - think about how maybe R6 does ist with a few weapons) vs. just simply spread (as BF3 did it for example)? Would be really interesting for me to know.

  • @Ashar121
    @Ashar121 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I never understood how the spread in BF1 was considered so offensively different by all these youtubers from the spread present in all the other Battlefields.
    I mean, there are gun specializations to INCREASE YOUR ACCURACY in BFV. How are you going to sit there and not realize that increased accuracy means your gun was INACCURATE to begin with? What is inaccuracy but spread? Mind boggling.
    Also, I have always maintained that the use of spread in BF1 was the main reason why all the guns were so unique but also so well balanced with respect to ranged effectiveness. It's why the average engagement distances were shorter and you had more action filled gunfights instead of people just camping the edges of capture points with Semi Auto lasers.
    The spread added another layer of variance between guns besides rate of fire and BTK to make players have to think about their gun choices in certain situations. There were accurate skill cannons with minimal spread but these guns also had 5 rounds with a 3BTK so you also had to hit your shots. Meanwhile the SMGs were useless outside of close range.
    The spread of other guns allowed the snipers to actually be super viable in close range rather than pushing them out to the borders of the maps.
    BF1s gunplay was methodical and you could tell it was a labor of love. I never understood why people liked BFVs gunplay

  • @HzrdHaze
    @HzrdHaze 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video man! Glad you’re addressing this. Idk what the devs thought but progression for the sake of progression is unnecessary. I play on the PS4 without aim assist or aim assist slow down and know what you’re talking about, just learned to cope with it.

  • @Antimanele104
    @Antimanele104 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The part with the middle center aiming and the aiming being centered around the end of the barrel... I've seen that before... in another infamous shooter, Gears of War Judgment.

    • @EndersFPS
      @EndersFPS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Naaaah nah im talking about where you’re actually aiming, not bullets coming out at barrel height

  • @TJ-100
    @TJ-100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Reason why I went back to hardline

  • @504godzilla
    @504godzilla ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This and BF2042 makes it seem like they WANT this franchise to die

  • @ProLosco
    @ProLosco 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I came for the rant, I stayed for the sexy forehead

  • @ZannyZan
    @ZannyZan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sometimes when I shoot straight at an enemy that is moving in front of me not a single bullet hit the enemy then the guy will one shot me with a type 99 ariska

  • @jackgu4978
    @jackgu4978 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank god, finally someone is making a video about this and I can’t agree more. I love my zk don’t get me wrong, but I always have a feeling of uneasiness when I get into a gun fight with my zk because I know it might just go all of place. Oh boy I feel bad for you when there are going to be all these mainstream bf TH-camr fans who just refuse to listen to you. But I guess this is why we need people like you to point out the problem and so keep up the work.

    • @brunomartinello7507
      @brunomartinello7507 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yet, with all these mechanics that makes it harder to hit shots, i still see players getting 40 to 60 kills and dying less than 20 times, playing only as infantry .. and i'm not talking about cheaters.

  • @diapersoft99
    @diapersoft99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you. Finally someone said it.
    I've even heard comp players say BFV gunplay is better than previous BF's because it doesn't have spread (:
    Even though spread you can control and there's nothing you can do about the rng recoil in BFV...

  • @kanedNunable
    @kanedNunable 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i love the way people can shoot me when stood behind things where i cannot see them. head glitch?

  • @mysteriesmercenary615
    @mysteriesmercenary615 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Man the devs. really screwed the poch with bf5 gunplay.

  • @christopherjohnston6343
    @christopherjohnston6343 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love it, the exact same arguments were being made during the youtuber campaign against spread in earlier Battlefield titles.
    We've come full circle.
    I know that BFV recoil system alienates my friends as it's just way stronger than other shooters.

  • @F1CKS
    @F1CKS 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    True man! this is why i only use Boltactions or dmr's because these are the only consistent weapons in bf5 which is ridiculous of course. I really want to play other classes and use my brain actually then playing sniper only but you know i just cant deal with the random recoil shit!

  • @LeadRakFPS
    @LeadRakFPS ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know this is an old video, but as a BF og that has played since BF1942 and just started playing BFV maybe 4 weeks ago....you couldn't be more right. You hit the nail on the head especially when you made the statement about "saving your dying franchise". I know a lot of people might not agree, but when you go from being a high level player on BFBC2 and BF3 to BF4 and how they made the vehicle mechanics clunky and "slower", the franchise IMO has been dying since BF4. BF4 was buggy as hell on release and the netcode (which is still bad) was atrocious compared to other BF games on release. Just my opinion of course. The BF community doesn't fully realize it yet, but they need more truthful, no BS content creators like you. People that aren't afraid to tell it how it is and be right, even through emotions. I had a passion for this game like you have and BF4 and clearly newer BF titles have all but ruined it for me. It's a damn shame.

  • @wamakaus2894
    @wamakaus2894 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You’re absolutely on point! They try limiting better players to not frustrate casual players. All that started with pushing dice in that regard with interchanging the original teams and serve stock holders. The end of BF2 was the hallmark of all that BS.

  • @lander4048
    @lander4048 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I agree with you too, DICE must bring back BF4 gunplay back

  • @dearSamuelSamuel1
    @dearSamuelSamuel1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ahh Enders...so glad I found this channel

    • @EndersFPS
      @EndersFPS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      well hopefully I can play a game that doesnt make me this irritated for you guys in the future

  • @tylerkuda617
    @tylerkuda617 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't know what this community been smoking when we started complaining about randomized recoil in Battlefield. Pretty much every non-arena shooter randomizes recoil to an extent.

    • @EndersFPS
      @EndersFPS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The complaint is not about recoil randomization as a concept, it's about how they did it in this particular game. Spread is a form of randomness in gunplay, but its just objectively more well done

  • @yosawin3018
    @yosawin3018 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree with most of your points except that I actually like how the bullets go where the sight is, it's kinda a bit more realistic(although it should be where the barrel is pointing like in rising storm but it's in more tactical genre which battlefield isn't) but that said, battlefield as a franchise has never been realistic, it's just immersive enough to make you feel that way so having good normal gunplay is essential.

  • @nikobolakis7170
    @nikobolakis7170 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I started playing Battlefield on PC (2142, BC2, BF3). After a long break (and learning how to play with a controller in Warzone on PS4) I got BF5 a month ago. I think recoil is reduced on console, because it's easier to control with a mouse.
    I agree with you on the random recoil in BF5. That's bad and previous systems with spread were much better.
    But I disagree on the movement (Jump Shots, constant sliding). The Battlefield games I played before were much more about positioning (I mean flanking, not camping) and communicating with your squad/team.

    • @EndersFPS
      @EndersFPS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      BF games arent meant to be played in any specific way

    • @nikobolakis7170
      @nikobolakis7170 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EndersFPS I know. There are many different ways to play Battlefield and that's really great. I also think that it should be rewarding for players who spend more time and effort than others. I enjoy getting better at a game and learning the weapon stats to improve further. The skill ceiling should be high. But (in my opinion) not too high. I think that's where we disagree, but that's OK. Thanks for the video.

  • @xaviergall2233
    @xaviergall2233 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Ben Shipero of Battlefield

  • @TheGlowingOnee
    @TheGlowingOnee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No wonder why I never got used to this trash ass gunplay, I was always thinking it was me. 🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @johneyfairplay8140
    @johneyfairplay8140 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    According to sym, mnk and controller recoil values may now be the same as of the 6.2 update.

    • @EndersFPS
      @EndersFPS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      not true, still very clearly working

    • @johneyfairplay8140
      @johneyfairplay8140 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      True. In that case, Sym needs to remove the footnote alluding to recoil values being possibly the same across input devices.

    • @EndersFPS
      @EndersFPS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johneyfairplay8140 I think they put that there just as a precaution because some people were saying it wasn't working, but watch any console gameplay and it becomes very clear it's still in full working order lol

  • @Kim_E
    @Kim_E 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just started playing bfv today after playing bf4 for years and i noticed the same thing and i agree. I was doing much worse in bfv so i looked into it online and apprently most people seem to disagree and think that the gunplay in bfv is much better than in older games??

    • @EndersFPS
      @EndersFPS  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The thing is, VERY few people know about this. Everyone thinks that BFV is entirely controllable, and they're basing their opinion in misguided information

    • @Ace21kg
      @Ace21kg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EndersFPS everyone else is wrong and I am right. : )

  • @ironmeanlol7150
    @ironmeanlol7150 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah I missed the jump peek in bf4

  • @nasserharb4850
    @nasserharb4850 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally someone explain my problem with this game ...
    I used to play BF5 on PS4 but I moved to PC one year ago and play most of FBS games especially BF1 and BF5
    So with the BF1 i don't see any problem but BF5 tooo much recoil that u need to keep playing with the same weapon for like a month to get used to it but on PS4 i didn't have that problem
    Enders explain the problem in the perfect way

  • @suleimanhaider5716
    @suleimanhaider5716 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Before I got the game many TH-camrs said it has the best gunplay, I asked you about the gunplay, you are the only one who said it was inconsistent and annoying. I now understand what you meant. 3x scopes are now more popular than ever because of this randomness, every weapon has extreme horizontal recoil, but surprise, sometimes there is no horizontal recoil at all.
    TL:DR: you were right

  • @Nxila0114
    @Nxila0114 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    we need this man, he is our light

  • @lucien1929
    @lucien1929 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thumbnail bout to make me act up

  • @MagusTTV
    @MagusTTV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In my hours of playing BFV before I quit and uninstalled it, this video perfectly summarized why I felt like I could not control my recoil properly on certain guns like the FG-42.

    • @brunomartinello7507
      @brunomartinello7507 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Those issues arent that bad if you're engaging the opponent from 30 meters away at max... but as the distance goes up, the more impossible it gets to hit the enemy consistently... its frustrating...

  • @radag45t
    @radag45t ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ehhh, I dunno . I play it on console myself and it feels like they followed COD’s code . I can empty a clip getting head shot markers for 500 damage only to have them spin around and drop me in two shots with a pistol. Fees like it’s not just the recoil that’s the problem with 5 😂

  • @nemozinioux
    @nemozinioux ปีที่แล้ว

    "In every other FPS the bullets go around where you aim"
    CSGO : "am I a joke to you ?"

  • @ebrahimlodhi6761
    @ebrahimlodhi6761 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    No need to make a video about it. We all know. bF6 will problly be worse😞

    • @EndersFPS
      @EndersFPS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      My community might know, but the vast majority doesn't.

  • @Beatboxorigin
    @Beatboxorigin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I definitely feel that random recoil on console. It's infuriating. Even with Bipods.... That's never happened before.

  • @khail127
    @khail127 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enders
    June 10, 2021
    RIP: Killed by "random bullet deviation"

  • @ironmeanlol7150
    @ironmeanlol7150 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree always shoot first and 50% damage enemy and my gun go....Crazy..The recoil also can do oval lollll

  • @22.idabagusgedeyudistirapu35
    @22.idabagusgedeyudistirapu35 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only thing I shit in this game is the recoil control is frustrated me a lot when in gun fight

  • @deanlovett7985
    @deanlovett7985 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just got it. Uninstalled after a cpl days. Had an itch and redownloaded it. Uninstalled again in about an hour of gameplay. Bye BF5. The worst game ive played in a while.

  • @StretchOnYT
    @StretchOnYT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent watch

  • @L4KKYBattlefield
    @L4KKYBattlefield 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not the guy we deserve, but the guy we need

  • @yettiluch1
    @yettiluch1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Agreed. Many more issues though

    • @EndersFPS
      @EndersFPS  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      emphasis on MANY

  • @giopovski
    @giopovski 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    THANK YOU

  • @atyne_mar
    @atyne_mar 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:30 what do you mean by this? You shoot with the center of your screen in BFV too. One of your clips as an example: th-cam.com/video/O-M9KmKLMNA/w-d-xo.html
    Play it at 0,25x speed starting 5:45. Both weapon animation and reticle have no impact on where you shoot.

    • @EndersFPS
      @EndersFPS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, you are wrong. It changes dynamically between jumping/falling and standing fire. When jumping / falling it seems to dynamically change to a "more centered", but not entirely centered point of aim. When standing and shooting, it's entirely decoupled. This was only found out about 4 or 5 days ago now when we did some testing. It's all fucked basically. Nothing makes any sense.

    • @atyne_mar
      @atyne_mar 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EndersFPS I have no idea what you mean. Would it be possible to make an explanation video?

    • @EndersFPS
      @EndersFPS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@atyne_mar an explanation video isnt really interesting to me so late into BFV's life cycle.

  • @brunomartinello7507
    @brunomartinello7507 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow... i never looked to BF1 gunplay from that perspective... so... BF1 is even better than what i thought, and i'm a BF1 lover.

  • @gregorywright9971
    @gregorywright9971 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ya I tried this game again from the aiming to the actual guns this game just irritates me. I’m pretty positive folks use aim bots in this the huge amounts of smoke screens and to be head shot through them I don’t get how they see you.

  • @sundew3848
    @sundew3848 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like I can constantly hit my shots easier in bf1 than any other bf game.

  • @JundaChris
    @JundaChris 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Unprecedented knowledge.

  • @EDGAR-1234
    @EDGAR-1234 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So much truth spoken, I like it.

  • @fettbauchpioneer2882
    @fettbauchpioneer2882 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amen.

  • @wilfredwayne7139
    @wilfredwayne7139 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is trash I just went back to battlefield 1 can't stand 5 uninstalled it before I smashed my controller.

  • @Y_Spiky_T
    @Y_Spiky_T 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    nice electric socket you got there

  • @d4w4ll31
    @d4w4ll31 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm the unluckiest player ever, i started my career with this game. Now i have mental issues

  • @illeoyt2070
    @illeoyt2070 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why don't make a gunplay without nothing? , no spread, no soppression, no anything, I'm trash? I play tot hours with the same gun to learn the pattern, does it make sense?

  • @deadowth
    @deadowth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watch this 1.5 x speed

  • @goldengrain9851
    @goldengrain9851 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I say the gunplay is trash because I could be 5 to 6 rounds into a player first and they can fire their weapon once killing me.

  • @oscurodous7655
    @oscurodous7655 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait, so recoil is not difficult in bfv on console? So I am trash at the game...

    • @TheGlowingOnee
      @TheGlowingOnee 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It still has random recoil though which makes it worse.