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The USA Is Actually The Best In The World For Public Transport*

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2022
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  • @nick4506
    @nick4506 ปีที่แล้ว +376

    here in the us everywhere where a plane can land and has a wind sock is an airport. agricultural airports for running crop dusters count as airports, but you wouldn't go there to take an international flight. but they show up on maps so you can find them in an emergency. but an argument that air travel in the us is public travel is because the airports in citys are owned by the city and made as a public good. unlike europe where airports are built and owned by private companys.

    • @MarcJaxon
      @MarcJaxon ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Truth. Columbus has 2 International Airports and like a half dozen small/private airports that you couldn't get a 707 in if you tried.

    • @brendanl9937
      @brendanl9937 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Yea the vast majority of airports are mainly for General Aviation, not the transport travel we know as the airlines

    • @l.u.c.a.s.
      @l.u.c.a.s. ปีที่แล้ว +20

      where in europe are airports privately owned?

    • @JmKrokY
      @JmKrokY ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bruh

    • @Saffy1
      @Saffy1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wait you can buy some crop duster and just fly in ? Do you need a license ? Is it hard to get ?

  • @ATM648
    @ATM648 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    I was worried that the new camera set up was increasing the quality of these videos. But then the stretchy USB cable came out and relieved my fears! Thanks toycat!

  • @ethansinclair7987
    @ethansinclair7987 ปีที่แล้ว +259

    So building an entire highway interstate system system is deemed possible but building a high speed rail system is deemed impossible

    • @kaelthewise
      @kaelthewise ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Yes. We have the best freight rail system, but high speed rail isnt efficient. Its very expensive per mile (californias current project is 200million USD per mile). Airports and roads are way cheaper to build.

    • @kaelthewise
      @kaelthewise ปีที่แล้ว +4

      So it is very posssible, its just the price itself....

    • @drkclshr
      @drkclshr ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Americans can’t just spend the money on trains we need to have enough for guns

    • @userequaltoNull
      @userequaltoNull ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kaelthewise that's because it's being handled by California, the most corrupt and mismanaged state in the Union (imo). The only reason California isn't rotting like Mississippi is because of simple inertia, it has many rich people, and many wealthy businesses. Without Silicon Valley for taxes and Hollywood for public perception, California would be completely destroyed.
      Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

    • @Not_Sal
      @Not_Sal ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kaelthewise yeah we can’t spend money on rail. Gotta use it to fund foreign wars.

  • @infernox1099
    @infernox1099 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    The main problem with america in the public transport debate is less about public transport, and more just for local areas that have everything you need, since america has its suburbs which has a lot of nothing but houses, then a drive away is a commercial area to spend money, but in other places, the houses and comercial area mix, so the need for public transport is a lot less pronounced when you can have a 5 minute walk to get everything you need.

    • @sixthcairn
      @sixthcairn ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Yeah, it's kind of hard to buy into car-hating propaganda when eliminating cars will force you to haul your groceries/furniture/etc. several kilometers on foot because of how your city is arranged.

    • @toungebone
      @toungebone ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ok but what are your thoughts on dishonored 2’s storyline?

    • @sixthcairn
      @sixthcairn ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@robertcrawshaw9978 I wish we had them, but even then I don't know how well it would work with how suburbs work. I'm all for stuff like that, but I just can't see it being realistically implemented in many suburbs short of burning it all down and starting anew.

    • @sixthcairn
      @sixthcairn ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@gastonestbon5439 You'd be surprised at how many people want to obliterate private car ownership; I've lost count how many times I've had to explain to people that some places are practically inhospitable without private vehicles either due to extreme climate or insane (or nonexistant) urban planning. I've been to places with good public transport, where everything necessary is within sensible distances, but that doesn't apply to everywhere, particularly in the deep rurals or in many suburbs; some places are simply too underdeveloped or too fucked up and beyond salvation, and the people who live in such places aren't Captain Planets villains but simply people trying to live their lives under the cruel reality of geographic distances or the machinations of those in nigh-unassailable power.

    • @sixthcairn
      @sixthcairn ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@gastonestbon5439 You're preaching to the choir, but what I find lacking in these sermons is actual, attainable solutions to fucked up urban planning that already exists, short of wiping the slate clean via forced mass relocations or suspiciously convenient arsons.

  • @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
    @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un ปีที่แล้ว +110

    Sure the US is big, Americans forget that railroads connected the country first, and towns literally popped up because of trains. Or don't know that China is also big, and their system connects EVERY province INCLUDING the two SARs as there is service to Hong Kong's West Kowloon as well as Zhuhai station being right next to the Macau border. High-speed rail has proven to lead to a real estate boom and a better quality of life. Not to mention reduce pollution. People were opposed to ICE and TGV in Germany and France respectively, and now their networks are praised
    We hope once we reunify for the South's high-speed rail system to expand

    • @skeletonzombie-e4875
      @skeletonzombie-e4875 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Trully wise statement from our true lord and saviour.

    • @spilledmilk4801
      @spilledmilk4801 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not bringing down high speed, but China doesn't pay their workers shit and has billions of people. Communist China is also not the first country you think of for good quality infrastructure and not cutting corners.

    • @jimb0e186
      @jimb0e186 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      If anyone knows what’s right for the future of America, it’s gotta be you Kim Jong-un

    • @AdamSmith-gs2dv
      @AdamSmith-gs2dv ปีที่แล้ว +7

      China's HSR also loses money every single year. The American freight rail system makes money

    • @shake4259
      @shake4259 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@AdamSmith-gs2dv true

  • @bugno9969
    @bugno9969 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    the density map is something that people who don't want intercity trains in the US point to. Think about individual regions of the US as if they were countries, the Northeast has 60 million people, California has 40 million people, the Midwest has 60 million people, Florida has 20 million people. Rail advocates don't want cross country trains, we want local trains improving local trips between metro areas in the same region.

    • @kadennelms8419
      @kadennelms8419 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I think connecting the country that way would allow some people such as retirees to do cross country trains.

    • @1CE.
      @1CE. ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I for one want that
      There should be a way to go from L.A to NYC by train
      If Russia can do it in like 800 B.C in Siberia surely we can do it in 2022 where we only need to deal with corn fields

    • @Miguel.L
      @Miguel.L ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@1CE. more like the cornfield owners, just look at what happened in California, they still haven’t finished their high-speed rail mostly due to people not wanting to give up their land

    • @maddykrantz
      @maddykrantz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@1CE. BRUH we ttied to get an LA to SF train but the Cali govt rejectwd that plan, so if we cannot even get a train to go from one end of our state to the other, a cross state train woht even be possible.🤣 I'm an San Francisco Local, so trust me.

    • @autisonm
      @autisonm ปีที่แล้ว

      @@1CE. Trains kinda got outdated by planes so you'll never see that track.
      edit: *international passenger trains
      Trackless typically > track transportation

  • @thetoxbloxer503
    @thetoxbloxer503 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I took the even longer train from NY to Chicago but via Appalachia instead of the lakes, and I enjoyed it immensely. I don’t recommend it as a way of getting places fast, but as a leisurely travel I recommend it highly, mainly for the social aspect: people are willing to talk to each other on a train where they wouldn’t on a plane. Also the views get much better lol

  • @ethanwmonster9075
    @ethanwmonster9075 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    US airport count is absolutely insane.

    • @Skyfoogle
      @Skyfoogle ปีที่แล้ว +21

      keep in mind the vast majority of US airports are small dirt strips to serve isolated towns or private plane owners

    • @Racko.
      @Racko. ปีที่แล้ว +8

      More than 15,000+
      The next nation with the most airport is not even 5,000. Impressive

    • @sixthcairn
      @sixthcairn ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Skyfoogle Yeah, I find it that many of the issues between Europe and the US can often be attributed to just how younger and more expansive the US is as a country; many of the stuff you can do in Europe simply can't be done in the US outside of New England or SoCal.

    • @Ra111den
      @Ra111den ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@sixthcairn congrats on figuring out what population density is.

  • @Token_Nerd
    @Token_Nerd ปีที่แล้ว +98

    Here's the thing about the US and the need to get people out of cars: widening roads doesn't just induce demand, it induces car-centric development, making other forms of transportation less efficient and less viable to introduce at a later point in time. Japan gets things right because it still develops its cities in a sustainable manner, while still improving its road network. A lot of that has to do with user fees mind you. (by extension, look at the areas with the most road tolls and compare that to transit usage. The results should not be surprising).

    • @nate2933
      @nate2933 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Exactly

    • @haroeneissa790
      @haroeneissa790 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Another thing to note here is that american cities wouldn't even fit in Japan as almost all the flat land has already been urbanised. An american style megalopolis with 127 million inhabitants would be bigger than Japan itself and Japan can't even be completely urbanised as a lot of the country is too mountainess.

    • @trademark4537
      @trademark4537 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hey! I'm subscribed to you!!!! Hope you make some more videos. I loved the St. Louis video!

    • @Token_Nerd
      @Token_Nerd ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@trademark4537 Stuff is coming, once flights to st Louis come down St. Louis Pt 2 will show up, but in the meantime, there's some slander in the works.

    • @jdbb3gotskills
      @jdbb3gotskills ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nope rather drive myself everywhere. No need to worry about a bus or train schedule. I can just hop in my car and drive. The freedom to drive anywhere and everywhere at anytime is wonderful.

  • @adamatari
    @adamatari ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The fundamental problem is that for public transit you need a walkable place at the end point, and if everyone has a car and drives everywhere, and you keep expanding the roads and parking lots, soon you can’t walk anywhere… It’s kind of a chicken and egg thing.

  • @Bozebo
    @Bozebo ปีที่แล้ว +12

    FYI Japan's kind of known for a car being pretty much essential outside at least a decently sized town. So that first map is representing it pretty well. It's just that elsewhere the transport is fasntastic.

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Watching this makes me miss living in Jersey City even more. While I'm currently stuck in an area of Long Island where I'm over a mile to the nearest bus stop waiting for a bus that comes every hour which would take me to a train station and proceed to wait for a west-bound train that comes every hour, meanwhile in Jersey City (I lived in The Heights area) there were a handful of Latino shuttles and NJ Transit buses coming every few minutes as well as the Hudson-Bergen Light Rail connecting almost everywhere in Hudson County, a couple of PATH stations which connects to Newark, Midtown or WTC, and the NY Waterway ferries. When it comes to lists of the best transit cities in the country, Jersey City always makes the list and it doesn't take long to see why. The majority of people living in Jersey City don't own a car for a reason, and more people want to move there because of its convenience across the river from Manhattan. Jersey City is one of the more European cities in this country, which I'm sure you'd agree with since you too once lived there.
    That being said, are the transit systems of New York and New Jersey perfect? No, but it's better than nothing, and at least when it comes to the MTA and NJ Transit, the state governments own the tracks

    • @firstnamelastname6926
      @firstnamelastname6926 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I never thought I'd ever hear anybody say they miss living in Jersey City... I'd rather live in Damascus than Jersey City (for real). I stand with Salem County and disrespect North Jersey except the lands along the Delaware which are most pleasing to the eye.

    • @kimpeater1
      @kimpeater1 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's true there are many alternatives for NYC commutes from NJ, especially Hudson and Bergen also. I ditched my car after Hurricane Irene. Now I'm free from car payments, insurance, gas, etc. it's nice.
      Are you near a LIRR stop? Personally, trains are ideal by far over busses.

    • @chitlitlah
      @chitlitlah ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I don't like to say good things about New York, but at least the trains run all night. It's the only city in the country that seems to legitimately care about getting drunk drivers off the streets.

    • @schroederscurrentevents3844
      @schroederscurrentevents3844 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      NJ suburbanite here, NJ transit isn’t good. PATH and the city stuff is good, but transit isn’t. Can’t wait to get old enough to move to Jersey city.

    • @MediumDSpeaks
      @MediumDSpeaks ปีที่แล้ว

      I, too, am Cuban-American

  • @jyke321
    @jyke321 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I live closer to two different airports than a train station. Gotta love living in Central Florida, public transport is laughable here. We have bus stops, the closest one to where I live is 2 miles away, and I’m pretty sure it only gets a bus every 2-3hrs, or to mention they block traffic every time they stop since we don’t have indents in the road for them. You need a car to get any where, but I guess biking is alright (it’s better than walking)

  • @12kenbutsuri
    @12kenbutsuri ปีที่แล้ว +30

    As a japanese, I can safely say that you won't survive without a car like the US unless you live in the center of one of the few major cities.

    • @blackopscw7913
      @blackopscw7913 ปีที่แล้ว

      What do you mean by the few major cities?

    • @12kenbutsuri
      @12kenbutsuri ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@blackopscw7913 like tokyo, yokohama, Osaka, kyoto nagoya etc. My hometown is in the tokyo suburbs with over 70,000 people, but still even buses don't exist there. I moved to europe and in europe, this would be totally unimaginable.

    • @rorypaul153
      @rorypaul153 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Most cities in the US bigger than i would say 50k has some type of bus system

    • @12kenbutsuri
      @12kenbutsuri ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@rorypaul153 japan is probably worse than the US when it comes to public transportation in the country side.

  • @budling5921
    @budling5921 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If you're interested in this subject, may I recommend a video from the "Not Just Bikes" channel, like a couple other commenters have?
    The video "Why I Hate Houston" really helps shine a light on the issues with the USA's car-centric urban planning mindset, and the rest of the stuff they do is cool as well!

  • @SemiHypercube
    @SemiHypercube ปีที่แล้ว +22

    He knows how to make clickbaity titles that's for sure

  • @champagne.future5248
    @champagne.future5248 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I’m disturbed and disgusted to see that quality of your videos improving. I somehow still managed to enjoy it thankfully

    • @oyungogdfrust4136
      @oyungogdfrust4136 ปีที่แล้ว

      disturbed???? and disgusted????
      “omg i have qualityophobia thats why i watched your content bc it’s shit”

    • @champagne.future5248
      @champagne.future5248 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@oyungogdfrust4136 *woosh*

  • @pandaleafy
    @pandaleafy ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I used to live in the DC suburbs (like, really close to the city) and there was next to no public transport. The whole area was entirely reliant on cars- dangerous to walk around because of stroads, scarce sidewalks, no bike lanes, and no bike racks. The only buses I knew of were headed into DC itself and not to shopping areas or parks. Most of the time it was faster to walk somewhere than take the bus because there are just no direct routes to where you want to go, so you end up going all over the city before reaching your destination. Gotta love it when it takes 3hrs to walk somewhere but the bus route is 15hr

  • @MrAsianPie
    @MrAsianPie ปีที่แล้ว +18

    A bit off topic but ...
    Europeans : "America has such shitty trains"
    American Frieght Service (arguably the best in the world):

    • @DJTileTurnip
      @DJTileTurnip ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I've never heard that from a European

    • @bruhbutwhytho2301
      @bruhbutwhytho2301 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@DJTileTurnip they say that all the time, because we do for passenger rail

  • @ztl2505
    @ztl2505 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I agree with the larger point that a ton of terminally online transit advocates go a bit too hard on the whole “immediately nuke all private vehicles” thing, but I also find the “make both things better” argument flawed because private autos tend to be uniquely antagonistic to other means of transit. Cars work best when roads are huge with few stops, giant parking lots are abundant, and things are spread further apart, and those are exactly the things that make walking, biking, and transit worse.

    • @iamafan7919
      @iamafan7919 ปีที่แล้ว

      In many cases in the US improving public transportation would improve driving. In big cities the way to improve private transport is just getting less people to use it thus less congestion. Balance is key. I personally haven't really seen any of the people wanting to kill cars but those people are crazy.

  • @Pepe2708
    @Pepe2708 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I definitely agree with most points in this video, but there needs to be an asterisk on the point that people should be encouraged to take public transport, and not be punished for driving cars. One exception to this should be city centers, because these feel like spaces that really should be designed for humans, and not cars. Improving the lives of car drivers and public transport commuters equally is great, but I honestly feel like public transport should generally be prioritized in cities. Especially in the US, where the balance is so uneven.

  • @indecisive.dice.roll.325
    @indecisive.dice.roll.325 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    I live in a city with AWFUL public transportation. Let's see what wisdom Toycat has to dispense, or he'll just be like "this is the exception this sucks"
    Edit: y'all please stop interacting with "First Name Last Name" they're a Chinese propaganda channel they're MEANT to start arguments to engage and enrage Americans

    • @firstnamelastname6926
      @firstnamelastname6926 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My advice is complain less and do more. If you don't like your city's public transit system why aren't you building a better one? Or are you just going to complain?

    • @kaw57_
      @kaw57_ ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@firstnamelastname6926 i dont think you realize how wildly impractical that it

    • @thatpersonsmusic
      @thatpersonsmusic ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@firstnamelastname6926 ah yes, I’m just going to tell the government to make more prolix transit and they’ll care

    • @firstnamelastname6926
      @firstnamelastname6926 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kaw57_ There will always be excuses but nobody did anything in their life with excuses

    • @firstnamelastname6926
      @firstnamelastname6926 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@thatpersonsmusic Andrew Carnegie used his own money to build stuff. Nothing is stopping you from providing the funds and procuring the necessary permits. It is much easier to procure these permits in the USA than, say, the Gambia (A place I unfortunately have experience with trying to build transport infrastructure in Serekunda)

  • @zamathany
    @zamathany ปีที่แล้ว +8

    i mean lots of suburban areas in minnesota have buses, and the twin cities have a lightrail,
    but you cant get around without a car for long

    • @joemiller947
      @joemiller947 ปีที่แล้ว

      I live in Eden Prairie MN and the nearest bus stop is like 2 miles away lol

    • @charlessandoval3382
      @charlessandoval3382 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unless you have the balls of Lance Armstrong !

  • @cameronpratt6164
    @cameronpratt6164 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The idea of you thinking that you have a random gummy worm in your pocket is far more hilarious than it has the right to be.

  • @norman6524
    @norman6524 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    We don't have to connect the entire country with trains, due to the size of the country I'd argue that planes just are what high-speed trains are to Europe and we should probably just connect regions of the country with trains but I'm no expert on this.

    • @mariusdufour9186
      @mariusdufour9186 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      They should be improving and building rail connections where these can be better than taking the plane and were demand is there. Very simple. There's a much better economic case for shovelling 100 bn+ into the North-East corridor (most of the money would go to expropriation and tunneling) to make it a true high speed line and double capacity, eliminating hundreds of daily short flights, than there is to spend like 25bn connecting Chicago to the west coast with HSR. There are several urbanists on TH-cam who have developed tools to calculate which high speed rail connections would be the most competitive. The realistic options include: the North-East Corridor, California maybe connect up to Seattle & Vancouver and East to Vegas, Chicago to the larger cities around it within about 300-400 miles. Texas (Dallas, Houston, Austin, San Antonio). There's probably a decent case for a New York-Chicago connection, and an extension of the North-East corridor to Florida might work too.
      Of course, in the longer term building a high speed line true les populated areas could be a tool for developing these areas with modern day railroad towns, were you basically create cities around intermediate stations of a trans-continental high speed rail line, where there might only be a small sleepy town before hsr got there.

  • @Mick_Unfiltered
    @Mick_Unfiltered ปีที่แล้ว +5

    At least for me, while public transport is my main mode of transportation, I do use it less and less because more and more of everything I need is within reach, I don’t need to go to the grocery store anymore, I can get food delivered if I forgot to meal prep, I found a new job 10 mins walk from home, my university and hospital and doctor are all also within 10 mins walk…. I used to need public transport more than I do now because I simply don’t need to travel as much.

  • @captainpog
    @captainpog ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You can buy train tickets on the day for almost all trains in the UK

  • @danmarsh5949
    @danmarsh5949 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As someone in Vegas without a car, I would feel a lot better about the LV bus system (RTC) if the frequency of its busses were increased about five times. As it is, I don't consider any bus route that includes a transfer. And LV actually has a pretty good bus system.

  • @daniel-vr2pw
    @daniel-vr2pw ปีที่แล้ว +8

    ah yes airplanes, my favourite way to go to work!

    • @wormsblink2887
      @wormsblink2887 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hey didn’t you know that public transport like airports help the poor? Who doesn’t fly across several mountains to get to their minimum wage job.

    • @ibx2cat
      @ibx2cat  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The new way to get NYC wages without having to pay NYC rent :)

    • @daniel-vr2pw
      @daniel-vr2pw ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ibx2cat careful now, you might give the politicians some new ideas

  • @Luredreier
    @Luredreier ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Induced demand isn't just about creating more total traffic, but making more of it go towards a particular thing instead of something else.
    Indeed you can actually reduce congestion by destroying and removing roads sometimes as other roads are used more efficiently instead of everyone being bundled up in certain routes...

    • @Big_Max41
      @Big_Max41 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's definitely truep, but i think it is still partly about increasing traffic. It's definitely more long-term than the "I'm forcing you to drive your car" examples toycat made. It's situations like building a neighborhood on the side of a highway because people can currently get into the city without traffic. If the road has a smaller capacity for cars, then a suburb is less viable and neighborhoods are going to be built closer to city centers or transportation hubs.

  • @thetrainhopper8992
    @thetrainhopper8992 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Airlines prices aren't going down once you factor in what tickets got you in service 20 years ago. Unbundling makes the base fare look cheap, but the cost of what economy was before unbundling is way more expensive and even the unbundled fare is hitting diminishing returns. And before someone goes into the idiotic "you only pay for what you use", who doesn't at least take a carryon? You still have to pay for that and it makes a difference.

    • @ibx2cat
      @ibx2cat  ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't take a carry-on lol, if it's less than 3 days you don't need anything more than a backpack. I'm happy I'm not paying 3-5x the price for a drink/snack and a carry-on or checked back I don't want to inconvenience myself with.

    • @thetrainhopper8992
      @thetrainhopper8992 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ibx2cat in the US it's not that huge of a difference. Beyond that, the only reason a normal person has to travel is either for a business trip or a long vacation. Basic stats show a majority of US domestic travelers take luggage with them. The number that doesn't is under 15%, meaning the fees are a cash grab and not the "if you pay more you really pay less idiocy". You might benefit, and you're the extreme minority.

  • @jarjarbinks6018
    @jarjarbinks6018 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I live in Seattle and other than BC, Idaho, Oregon, and Montana I just could not see myself going by any transport means other than airplane.
    It just becomes too far of a distance to be practical by other transport modes. Just traveling from one end of this state to the other would take over 4.5 hours by car

    • @normanclatcher
      @normanclatcher ปีที่แล้ว

      How about a cruise ship to Alaska?

    • @jarjarbinks6018
      @jarjarbinks6018 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@normanclatcher Sounds pretty cool.
      People in the fishing and crabbing industry will take a ship every couple months up to alaska for work too
      The Victoria Clipper goes to Victoria BC. They got a pretty cool town over there as well

  • @DanielSann
    @DanielSann ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The map shown at 1:30 was done in the middle of the lockdowns, of course the public transport was down horrendous. Since then we have comeback to 2019 levels

  • @LordMelbury1953
    @LordMelbury1953 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    People fly everyday in the US for their jobs. Most flyers are flying for work or business from my fellow passengers conversations.

  • @BobFrTube
    @BobFrTube ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You are reminding me of the few years I commuted from Boston to Seattle (Redmond)

  • @EHonda-ds6ve
    @EHonda-ds6ve ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nonetheless is the public transportation system in the US bad.
    Yes, the cities aren’t connected cuz of the size.
    But let’s say you want from Queens to Manhattan in NY: No problem, NY has good public transportation. LA is aleady worse. If you are for example in Salt Lake City you are basically f-cked up without a car.

    • @ibx2cat
      @ibx2cat  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought salt lake had a pretty cool tram system when I visited

    • @AdamSmith-gs2dv
      @AdamSmith-gs2dv ปีที่แล้ว

      If you want to see a city where you are screwed without a car come to Nashville.

  • @k0pstl939
    @k0pstl939 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love that I don't watch the main channel anymore but still watch the 2nd channel

  • @thetrainhopper8992
    @thetrainhopper8992 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Making driving less attractive in the US needs to happen. They're really isn't a static position with road infrastructure that doesn't include expansion. You do need to expand and make public transit better, but at the same time, keeping around thousands of mostly empty parking lots just to make sure things don't change for drivers is a stupid proposition. Most of those should be housing so people don't need to drive. Our lives are going to have to change to deal with climate change, the question is by how much? The sooner we start, then less we need to change.

    • @AdamSmith-gs2dv
      @AdamSmith-gs2dv ปีที่แล้ว

      Not going to happen. Work from home is causing people to leave cities for mid sized towns and it's insane how many people still don't know the damn dining rooms are back open at fast food restaurants. Also I don't see one politician cutting back their lavish life styles for climate change so I sure as hell am not cutting back on mine

  • @superlynx98
    @superlynx98 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey Toycat, if you want to take your car to Europe, you could always take a ferry, they're generally cheaper than the Eurostar

  • @dylangtech
    @dylangtech ปีที่แล้ว +4

    ibxtoycat is a full on turncoat now. I love it!

  • @kimpeater1
    @kimpeater1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Always appreciate how you dig into the numbers to dispel conventional wisdom

  • @jackgoldfaden2858
    @jackgoldfaden2858 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This should be the main channel.

  • @cleryfrey
    @cleryfrey ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's okay if your video production in this channel is excellent. I learn a lot from this channel actually hahahahah.

  • @orthrus4490
    @orthrus4490 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As someone who lives in the Dallas-Ft. Worth area, theres a stupid amount of airports here. There are 2 major passenger airports a major cargo airport and maybe a dozen minor suburban airports

  • @coasteringkid
    @coasteringkid ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thanks for bringing up what people don't understand about induced demand. I hate how people have seemed to be convinced that we shouldn't add lanes to highways from watching a vox video.

    • @samd3497
      @samd3497 ปีที่แล้ว

      As far as I can tell, there doesn’t really seem to be any good reason for adding lanes though. I mean, it doesn’t help with congestion, it doesn’t help with the environment, it doesn’t help with safety, and it also doesn’t help the local economy because the only type of development it generates is the low density sprawl that bankrupts cities. Am I missing something here?

    • @coasteringkid
      @coasteringkid ปีที่แล้ว

      @@samd3497 If there is still similar levels of congestion the highway's capacity will still be greater, and if the effects of induced demand are designed for correctly and enough lanes are added, it will reduce congestion as well. Those are the benefits but there are lots of downsides as you mentioned but it's still needed a lot if the time

    • @Zones33
      @Zones33 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@coasteringkid Katy freewaY would disagree with you

  • @eX1st4132
    @eX1st4132 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    14:18 this implies you keep gummy worms in your pocket regularly enough to assume all other thin objects are candy

  • @charlesrhodes1089
    @charlesrhodes1089 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's in my pocket today could be a show where you use a prop as a Segway into your topic of discussion.
    "What's in my pocket today? Well apparently it's a handful of kellogs corn flakes"
    And then you talk about Battle Creek Sanitarium for 20 minutes.

  • @tristanexists1806
    @tristanexists1806 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Im glad i live in NY with it's extensive public transit network 😌

    • @ddurlon
      @ddurlon ปีที่แล้ว +1

      cheers🎉

    • @maddykrantz
      @maddykrantz ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same. San Francisco gang! We also have amaxing public transit.

  • @milom7865
    @milom7865 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I agree with a lot of what you said but a lot of the us definitely can be connected by rail and it was in the past. Basically all of the east and Midwest did and can have intercity rail. Sure a train may not be as feasible as flying to get from say nyc to Chicago. But there’s dozens of cities in between along that route where high speed rail would be faster and more convenient to get between than driving or flying, sort of the same way not a lot of people take the highway from NY to Chicago either but drive between other cities on that route. I would also argue that although public transportation funding may have gone up, that doesn’t undue decades of underfunding especially when plenty of money is still being spent on expanding highways and stuff, don’t know for sure but I’d bet it’s more in most cases. Also another issue is probably how our strict zoning makes it so that any new transit oriented development will be infill in inner city areas that are already zoned to allow it whereas mostly anywhere outside of the city center where alot of new construction happens is really not allowed to be built in a way where walking/taking transit is convenient. We have so many places that are just built around cars and it costs more than it’s worth to maintain those places cause the roads only go to a few houses yet we keep spending more money on not only maintaining but expanding those roads and not enough money on improving transit for it to be good enough to take away demand from the roads and the cycle continues… rant over thanks

  • @user-lk9wy7hi1d
    @user-lk9wy7hi1d ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I use to take public tran in the US but it’s dirty and only sketchy people use it. I’d rather drive

    • @charlessandoval3382
      @charlessandoval3382 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh that just makes exactly like the typical driver. No wonder there are some many accidents and road rage incidents.

    • @AdamSmith-gs2dv
      @AdamSmith-gs2dv ปีที่แล้ว

      You live in Atlanta? Because you described MARTA perfectly

  • @RogerWKnight
    @RogerWKnight ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Expanding a freeway does not induce traffic increases, it is merely a response to traffic increases. Increasing the population increases the traffic. People immigrate to the US. They settle in, get jobs, rent apartment or buy some form of housing, and cars. Since there is only so much room in the cities, much of the population growth happens in the suburbs. The reason new lanes on the freeway going out to the suburbs are full the day they open is because the increased traffic forced the politicians to expand the freeway. That traffic was already there.

  • @zwatotem
    @zwatotem ปีที่แล้ว +3

    12:33 There are a limited number of transport ways to get somewhere
    *Ambulance on the picture*
    Ah yes, the best way to get somewhere. You even get priority.

    • @toycat
      @toycat ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ambulances are just Uber but with 100x surge pricing

  • @theanonymousmrgrape5911
    @theanonymousmrgrape5911 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The thing about driving is, it isn’t something people do because they have to, it’s something you do because you can. It’s quicker than public transit, vastly more flexible, always available, much more comfortable, and can be enjoyable in its own right.
    People take public transport because they have to. Sometimes for economic reasons, the homeless end up riding on public trains and buses a lot, but more usually because you live in an area that’s too densely packed to effectively drive in, like Manhattan.
    Making public transport better won’t make many more people use it because they don’t have to. It’s the kind of thing very few people would choose to use if they had a choice.

  • @ivanelliotart
    @ivanelliotart ปีที่แล้ว +5

    you should look into "REAL ID" state compliance before calling planes public transport. if your state doesn't provide "REAL IDs", you can't fly domestically w/o a passport. and some stat provide these IDs, but upcharge for them, making them less accessible for poorer communities.

    • @firstnamelastname6926
      @firstnamelastname6926 ปีที่แล้ว

      Real ID is totalitarian and I object to them (I own a passport and travel often for world-changing reasons).

    • @r4vik
      @r4vik ปีที่แล้ว

      so just use your passport? how does this stop you flying?

    • @toycat
      @toycat ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is real ID required yet? Every time I fly I see ads for how they're gonna require it soon, but not now

    • @firstnamelastname6926
      @firstnamelastname6926 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@toycat It keeps being delayed (Because I am fighting the system)

  • @arkaig1
    @arkaig1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Always glad to see a fan of per-capita statistics... :) You should get into USA-Today graphics, to make minor differences look like Sea Changes, someday too perhaps! ;)

  • @charg3e
    @charg3e ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Can we appreciate the work Andrew does in these videos

  • @stevenroshni1228
    @stevenroshni1228 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The US has the philosophy that airports are better because unlike rail or roads you don't have to maintntenance the air, just the start and end points.

  • @LSqre
    @LSqre ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Americans in the 1800s: Let's build a transcontinental railroad!
    Americans now: no trains, it's too hard >:(
    Why is everyone such Americant's?

  • @firstnamelastname6926
    @firstnamelastname6926 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ibx2cat come to the gambia if you want to see a "nightmare" of transport and roads. Serekunda = the hell for transporters and travelers. also, Banjul port expansion is delayed again...

  • @fudgemonkeyz69
    @fudgemonkeyz69 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My dawg just ended this video by saying “I hope you use this video as a coping mechanism, and also I hope you’re not French.” 🤣💀

    • @firstnamelastname6926
      @firstnamelastname6926 ปีที่แล้ว

      Post. a spoiler alert pleas.e

    • @fudgemonkeyz69
      @fudgemonkeyz69 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@firstnamelastname6926 - For a Toycat video? 🤨

    • @firstnamelastname6926
      @firstnamelastname6926 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fudgemonkeyz69 You spoiled the end of the video before I saw it...

  • @thecodemachine
    @thecodemachine ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I drive in the USA because there is almost never a situation where it would be faster to take a train/bus and get their faster. My time is valuable.

    • @grahamlive
      @grahamlive ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Because your public transport is most likely inadequate. I wouldn’t dream of taking my car in to the city. It would take the best part of an hour plus the absolute headache of trying to find parking. Whereas a train gets me in to the city centre in about 30 mins. I live in a suburb of Glasgow, Scotland btw.

    • @thecodemachine
      @thecodemachine ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@grahamlive But wouldn't it be nicer, if you could just hop into your car, not have to deal with Covid Coughers or Germs, and have decent parking. I live about 90 miles outside of NYC which does have great public transport, it is faster and (depending) cheaper for me to drive to JFK, than to worry about train transfers, train schedules, and drunk sick people.

    • @nexerkarigum4031
      @nexerkarigum4031 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@thecodemachine bro, how bad is train schedules in amwrica that u need to "worry" about them, just chech the internet and when it gets to the station

    • @ethansinclair7987
      @ethansinclair7987 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@thecodemachine well you can sit in traffic with your pollution mobile and I will be cruising past in the the poor people mover

    • @AlmightyDude420
      @AlmightyDude420 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ethansinclair7987 lmao

  • @ryanjones2297
    @ryanjones2297 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is mostly a cultural thing. Most people have cars of their own and prefer to use that. Even most of the poor that are on public assistance have their own car. So public transport isn't cost effective due to people preferring to not use it.

  • @Cadzboy
    @Cadzboy ปีที่แล้ว

    "i thought it was a gummy worm in my pocket". ? how is that more normal for you than a usb cable

  • @ramuk1933
    @ramuk1933 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You shou find a graph of population by size, but since population is a better measure than land area, you should measure population per person.

  • @paxundpeace9970
    @paxundpeace9970 ปีที่แล้ว

    About the induced demand argument. The hige issue is zoning. If only housing is allowed in Zone R and offices are in the city center in Zone C then we will have this problem when we only build single family homes

  • @SalvatoreBabones
    @SalvatoreBabones ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic! Best video in months. I got worried when you said on the third channel that you were hiring an editor.

    • @SalvatoreBabones
      @SalvatoreBabones ปีที่แล้ว

      Sad ... I wrote too soon. There was definitely editing at the end. Shame.

  • @jamez6398
    @jamez6398 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You would fly domestically in the UK if you, for example, wanted to fly from Glasgow or Endiburgh to London, or if you wanted to fly from London to Belfast because you're not near the bit of coast adjacent to Belfast and you have to cross the ocean, so that's, like, the most valid reason to fly domestically in the UK...

  • @OwlGreene
    @OwlGreene ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ...OK. If you're willing to go macro enough, the guy makes a strong point.

  • @PrincessNybor
    @PrincessNybor ปีที่แล้ว

    "I hope that you do with this video whatever it is that you do with videos. You know, procrastinate the end of your day. Use it to argue that, like, well I'm basically learning..."
    I feel personally attacked. *looks at clock*
    Fine. Guess I'll go make dinner or whatever. Geez.

  • @rogermichaelwillis6425
    @rogermichaelwillis6425 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it public transportation if it's privately owned? The best publci transportation I've experienced was when I lived in Istanbul, Turkey. I could take a ferry from the Asian side to the European side for less than a dollar, and there was a new ferry every 20 minutes.

  • @Ben-qq8ly
    @Ben-qq8ly 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The UK is not a good example of high speed rail, and the US should do everything it can to not copy it

  • @nathanandsugar5252
    @nathanandsugar5252 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The biggest weakness in the US is that there is no way to get from one urban center to another (easily) with public transit. Amtrak is a joke compared to Japan or Europe.

    • @AdamSmith-gs2dv
      @AdamSmith-gs2dv ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Because there doesn't need to be, most of the urban areas are too spread out for it to make sense

    • @blackopscw7913
      @blackopscw7913 ปีที่แล้ว

      He literally said it, airlines.

  • @jukebox_heroperson3994
    @jukebox_heroperson3994 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The sort of animation things halfway through made me laugh out loud

  • @karito1358
    @karito1358 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would never imagine one of my favorite Minecraft youtubers from when I was younger is doing videos about my secret pleasure ... PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND URBANISM

  • @danmarsh5949
    @danmarsh5949 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BTW your Golden Knights shirt demands that you attend a game -- I tell people that there's no better show in Vegas.

  • @TheCriminalViolin
    @TheCriminalViolin ปีที่แล้ว

    For the chart at 1:00 in, that can be easily proven to be scaled via how much of a failure the systems are respectively, and how the agencies behind them have worked to fix their own failings. The more failings they have and continue to without addressing them, the further plummeting their ridership is on that chart.
    I agree as well with balancing it all out. As a diehard mass transit nut, and a lifelong pedestrian, a balanced approach to all modes is essential. Car, Public Transit, Pedestrians & Bicyclists. Thus why in my city I am currently building in Cities: Skylines has a heavy emphasis on that balancing. It's walkable, BRT oriented, but has plenty of car lanes too where there needs to be.

  • @jimmypeterson7021
    @jimmypeterson7021 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would love to see you with a podcast about geography/geopolitics

  • @corbin5392
    @corbin5392 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you get a new editor for this Chanel? I got to say it was very entertaining. Great work.

  • @alexanderhoak
    @alexanderhoak ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Bilbo. Very fun video today.

  • @Twisted_Logic
    @Twisted_Logic ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I don't see enough people in this discussion pointing out the population density in the US. There simply aren't enough people between, for example, Dallas/Fort Worth and LA to support high speed passenger rail

    • @brutusthebear9050
      @brutusthebear9050 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Rail is also a slightly different issue, because it was actively killed by Eisenhower in favor of highways.

    • @charlessandoval3382
      @charlessandoval3382 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brutusthebear9050 well they are national defense highways . do you expect an army general to do otherwise ?

    • @brutusthebear9050
      @brutusthebear9050 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@charlessandoval3382 I expect a president to do otherwise, but thats just a reason he shouldn't have been elected.
      Still, it wouldn't have been an issue if, oh I don't know, the rail wasn't nationalized.

    • @ac1455
      @ac1455 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At the same time that could be good if some of it is empty. Could be Cheaper land to buy the rights to build them on.

    • @duckpotat9818
      @duckpotat9818 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whar about New England and Great lake cities? Or LA and SF?

  • @AndyZach
    @AndyZach ปีที่แล้ว

    The biggest issue of public transport versus private, busses and trains versus cars is time convenience. Time costs money. I rode a bus for 7 years before I started biking and I prefer biking. I get home just as fast and I control the schedule. Cost being equal, people will always choose private, and even paying more, people will choose private.
    Thanks for pointing out the cost of infrastructure for rail. The US government gave the railroads free land to get them across the country. Even with free land, they could not compete with the cost of trucks for short distances and light loads.

  • @woahhbro2906
    @woahhbro2906 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm from Suburban US. I suppose I could see myself using public transport for my work commute, since it's the next town over, but other than that I don't see an advantage of public transport. Most Americans also buy groceries in bulk, so all that would be tough to carry on public transport. There's also the negative reputation. People hear horror stories and if they can avoid it, they will. I was personally chased off a tram by a screw driver wielding homeless man who just pissed himself. I know it's a tired excuse, but population density and real estate really keeps it from becoming popular.

  • @Angelica-by2hg
    @Angelica-by2hg ปีที่แล้ว

    if you hit the number 9 on your keyboard it will send you to a part of the video where if you spam the key 9 you will hear toycat going oh oh oh oh oh oh oh

  • @dazednconfuzedsean7
    @dazednconfuzedsean7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey! It's the bathtub "cup" I helped Toycat buy 😂

  • @tim333y7
    @tim333y7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Eh, the problem with expanding car infrastructure isnt that it isnt that is inducing demand, every transit expansion is most likely inducing demand, the problem is that it very often the least efficient way to induce demand making it fill up way too fast, and second problem is that car infrastructure itself is the problem, because its horribly inefficient both for the environment and the economy, we should spend the least amount of money for the most efficient gain otherwise we have very high opportunity costs,
    Nonetheless this would be less of a problem if land was infinite, but since land in cities is very expensive we should also encourage and use it the best way possible, especially in such easy cases as transportation

  • @scepter0143
    @scepter0143 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anytime I transit between New York and Chicago, I take the train. I still don't understand why 2 of the 3 biggest cities in the US less than 800 miles apart can't have a high speed rail connection. What amazes me is that the car journey is faster than the train by 8 hours. If the car maintains an average speed of 70 mph (which, for legal reasons, is highly unlikely), the train has an average speed of around 50 mph.

  • @MrStark-up6fi
    @MrStark-up6fi หลายเดือนก่อน

    6:26 Planes ARE public transport because it’s in the name. “Public”. You share the aircraft with other strangers and you need to go to a dedicated location to get on and off the plane. What are planes if they are not public transport? Certainly not private like cars

  • @stanhry
    @stanhry ปีที่แล้ว

    ibx2cat step in it , train and urban planners not going love this.

  • @cherubin7th
    @cherubin7th ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would prefer, if people had to pay for what they use and not extract money from others to make it "free". And the people in need would get better welfare instead of hiding it behind public spending for something rich also use.

  • @charlessandoval3382
    @charlessandoval3382 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is the orange thing in the toy tub ?

  • @x-90
    @x-90 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wendover Productions approves this video

  • @Bennet_Froggy
    @Bennet_Froggy ปีที่แล้ว

    another area the map is skewed against is probably African countries like Tunisia, Algeria and Egypt because these countries have a minibus sort of low capacity public transport called a louage. louages are found almost everywhere whereas buses and trains aren't.

  • @callxmx9213
    @callxmx9213 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    he goes to end the video, i go to click off then i realise it’s toycat. on his second channel, (never been subscribed to his first) he ‘doesn’t care’ lmao love you and your content man if i wasn’t on UC i’d maybe consider being a patron member for your kebabs but bruhhh who’s going to pay for my kebabs? bless brother ❤

  • @10thletter40
    @10thletter40 ปีที่แล้ว

    Toycat here just got half of America and all of Europe in uproar with this title

  • @kajuanhurn
    @kajuanhurn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You have too be a full term fan to watch toy cat videos. 😂 if you search up what he talking about and you just want to get straight to the point… good luck. Like he goes on a 20 min rant about whatever go through his mind. And us fan some reason love it

  • @danielburke5008
    @danielburke5008 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm sorry but I do not subscribe to this channel for high quality editing, please decrease quality for the next video. It's the second channel so I don't care and it seems the lobster roll fund is being put into the wrong areas

    • @ibx2cat
      @ibx2cat  ปีที่แล้ว

      Next video will be very low quality don't worry

  • @pdraggy
    @pdraggy ปีที่แล้ว

    LA had a sh*t public transport system in the first place so it getting worse isn't surprising. (and as for airports... well Alaska has an airport or at least an airstrip in like every village... it's not like they're all much more than a couple buildings but it skews the numbers IF they include those.)

  • @LazorVideosDestruction
    @LazorVideosDestruction ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I mean at least I can take a bus to my neighboring city for just a couple bucks 🤷‍♂️

  • @Zones33
    @Zones33 ปีที่แล้ว

    The airport point is misleading. You would not go to your local airport to fly internationally or domestically

    • @metrofilmer8894
      @metrofilmer8894 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Except in the majority of cases in the US, the desired destination is more than 500 miles (sometimes as much as 2,000) despite being in the same country meaning that flying is going to make the most sense

  • @gehgegeg2746
    @gehgegeg2746 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Toycat, most of our trains in America aren’t public. It’s pretty much only on the east coast