She debuted when kpop's hype was at its peak and just as toxic or even more. She was treated like sh*t by people. If she would have debuted today, she would have been considered as "iconic" and "barrier breaking"
I saw a video of russians bullying and degrading a 17 yr old idol. That gehlee from unis. Russians are also nasty in real life, as someone who used to work in the hospitality industry and there were so many Russians in that country where I used to work.
I will support Lana. She does NOT deserve this hatred. Circus is a wonderful MV, and she has a lot of talent. I hope that Lana stays strong and continues to follow her dream!!!!
O gosh. I feel so sorry for her. She did not deserve all those hate. That is why every internet user has to verify everything they read on the internet. You do not believe everything you read especially controversial ones because most of them are all made up just to spread hate. Like I cannot believe there are so many who are so dense and stupid they go on the internet to talk shit about someone they have no prior knowledge of, just because of what they read or see on the internet.
This really bothers me. Some kpop fans have an asian like fetish or something. America, British, Australian, most countries have and accept people from different countries and colors into their music industries. Thats normal. Even in Japan they have let in and gotten popular with the public both black and white singers. Americans are the only ones that have a problem with it. After reading comments between Japanese vs English it’s very telling. (The fans and the weird community) I only see this attitude with kpop. And for some reason its apparently not racist or creepy. Kpop has a bad name with some of the population for a reason. It’s completely normal and ok to expect korean to make up kpop and love that. Same with any other dominant population of a country. But there is not problem letting others into a industry. There is a huge double standard with peoples opinions between kpop/not western music industry vs western people towards their own countries being diverse.
i hope what this girl went through and what Blackswan went through shows international kpop fans that we need to jump off the high horse and realise yall can be just as close minded as Knetz...sit with that.
This is so sad really. She was young and coming from other country just to make a career where she thought people would support her turns out to be a huge disappointment. She looks talented and sweet too. The company doesn't deserve her. They took in a foreigner just to make profit but never intend to protect or even like them. That's awful and cruel. And talking about her race is so much worse. People who learn and read a book would know that Russian has mix blood especially from Mongolia, China and Korea. They may look Asian, that's why she has some distinct features. The one who created rumours about plastic surgery and other hateful things were probably doesn't finish school or learn nothing their whole lives. They thought they were right but sadly they didn't. I hope Lana find her path and become happier with her new company or her new career. She really reminds me of Somi, just beautiful and talented.
Just a little adjustment - ethnically Russian people are Slavs (White) and don't look Asian, but Russia has 150+ different ethnicities, including Asian ethnicities. As far as I know Lana's dad is of Tatar ethnicity (a Turkic ethnic group).
Where did you get that information? The majority of Russians ( 81% ) are Slavs ( they're just white people ). What you're describing are other ethnic groups in Russia. Stop spreading lies on the internet. Look how many people believe your inaccurate information . 🤣
I saw everything that happened back then, I didnt understand the hate, but I didnt like her songs too much either. But the hate was unnessecary. I think the timing was really bad as international kpop fans. had this mindset that foreigners who arent asians shouldnt be kpop idols, but now that has changed quite a bit with blackswan and kpop companies debuting international groups like katseye, vcha and soon dear alice. Many other countries have artists from various backgrounds and i dont get it why is it problem when it comes to korea. Many Koreans seem more open to it honestly than international kpop fans and it is so weird to me.
Okkkk I listened to her new song and it is so good honestly she has improved so much since then. I hope she gets all the sucess. She has gained so much confidence and skill.
It always happens, some people can't deal with change and others are just dumb and aggressive. Also I would say there's maybe a factor of envy cus many of those haters dream with become idols, so watching someone like them putting the effort and succeeding makes them mad. Btw it's the same in all type of careers, quite absurd to have to deal with that too but happens a lot.
the crazy thing is now no one would bat an eye at the idea of this concept. if she would have debuted under one of the big three or subsidiaries she would have had way more success and protected. (before anyone says anything, clearly this wasn’t an option to her at the time) i remember when she debuted and stan insta and stan twitter WITCH HUNTED the poor girl. her debut vocals might not have been the best, but at least she sang on her stages. i think if she was given the same opportunity now she’d be so successful. She’s beautiful, she can sing and dance well, and she fluent in multiple languages.
International kpop fans should be more open minded it seem they should realize that its not all about them their is a lot of people or fans that might support to the idol that they dont like if you don't like a certain idol dont bash them just ignore them and dont give your dumb so called opinion if its not good just keep it to yourself support who do you like just remember that they are just human who have emotion
Here we have our own asian nationalities. Even Koreans are here. But to the world its only blond people with blue eyes (which not even most common look for russians).
Lana: she says that she is Tatar and therefore she looks like an Asian. People in the comments: Russia borders with China, so she is Chinese🤡 Are all Asians Chinese to you? It looks like racism
love Lana and hope that she can get a chance to be a big star in korea and internationally too... she is very attractive beautiful and talented! Wild ent. should give her more work as a singer
I don’t think you can blame international fans for her flopping. yes, there are weirdos who harassed her bc she’s not Korean but there are kpop artists who are Korean who aren’t popular internationally but do well in korea so really, she still had the opportunity to do well.
They are blaming istans for the hate, cyber bullying, xenophobia, racism etc not because she is not big. Obviously her company not promoting her properly is the reason why she is not big.
😮It's great now she can talk about all the hate she received because it wasn´t fair but I don´t think she didn´t want to be a kpop singer o kpop idol because man, so why debuting in Korea instead of Russia or any other country? She and her company knew she accomplish korean beauty standards and also had the talent because she trained (as any trainee to become idol) so why denying facts? 🤔 That's the only thing I don't agree with.
I watched her in this match making show I think? I just remember she was paired with a guy that was trash. And I knew she did it because she didn’t want to ruin her image. Lana is beautiful and holds so much talent, I’m upset she never got her chance
i follow the principle of "if koreans accept this idol debuting, why should i care?" if they debut in korea and koreans dont object to them, then who am i, someone who isnt korean and lives outside of korea, to judge at all? lana deserves so much better and i will not take any critcism for this opinion
Not sure if this has been brought up previously, but the typical racist type Americans would not listen to Kpop in the first place..so I'm assuming these are kpop fans from certain ethnic groups that often complain about the lack of representation in US media, and they're jealous seeing non Asians represented in Asian countries
she wasnt that good but she wasnt bad that it would trigger a lot of hate.... for her to succeed was to release a good song but that much bad publicity made it impossible to do anything.
Blackswan also get negative comments from international kpop fans. Because They are not korean and they don't have korean members. But i have noticed most of the korean people are accepting and supportive towards blackswan.🫤 International fans need to change their mindset and be more open-minded
I’m not surprised I was pretty indifferent with whenever she did came out because I knew after the whole fiasco of how the international fans were treating Alex Ried I knew that her being an idol wasn’t going to be smooth. It is what it is. International fans are assholes. We’ve been saying this for a long time ever since DR decided to get Alex on their group. I knew that Lana didn’t have a chance that first Russian K-pop Idol stuff is not true would be considered the second Russian K-pop Idol. There was another one, but nobody paid attention to her. They just ignored her and they were kinda mean to, and if I remember correctly, didn’t even last they disbanded and if you seen her Instagram at the time she said that she was being bullied by fans and we know it’s international fans, so yeah international fans don’t have nothing better to do. They just bully and they have this idea what Asian K-pop should look like till this day some of them are still butt hurt we have black Swan. They have a long way to go. Don’t give me wrong. It’s changing slightly because when Black Swan started, it was semi garbage dumpster fire going on and later you still have people having little shit to say about the second group that has a foreigners in it that is non-Asian “Xin” if I remember correctly, JYP Hybe came out with a group that’s not considered K-pop And the international fans are still acting a little froggy like they don’t got no sense, if I remember correctly, there’s a new international Bori group that’s gonna be under a Korean company that supposed to be coming out they haven’t even debuted and people are going nuts already. Yeah I can understand they don’t fit what you would go for you got a better chance if they switch out their style and hopefully the music will be the par with this generations, taste of music for them to succeed it can happen. We do have bands that even though they don’t got big budget they’re doing pretty OK. so yeah any other ones that come after all these groups that are foreigner they’re going to have a hard time with these international fan😒🤷🏾♀️
Russians are not the best people in the world. As someone who used to work in the hospitality industry where we had plenty of Russian patrons. Even filipino colleagues have said so. And just recently I came upon a video filled with comments by Russians bullying Gehlee, a 17 yr old kpop idol from Unis. Russians are just as toxic. Don't you know that most russian only think of Filipinos as helpers? Filipinos should not be too nice to a fault to these foreigners.
I'm not hating on Lana, but of course Americans might not like her. Is she not aware what Putin and Russians are doing in the rest of the world? We are quite literally on opposite sides of full scale war. I'm not saying that's her fault and there's no reason to hate her personally, but she 's obviously not "reading the room" of international opinion right now.
Ya. No. Sounds like she got games by her agency. Most hate from American fans? Guessing her agency wanted to find strawman for blame to avoid hate on Korean fans for rac ist treatment of her. America hating a Russian K-pop star is absurd. This is on her company. She got played.
not that absurd American fans can be just as close minded as knetz the vitriol Fatou got when she first came out even Gabi still gets hate Korea loved her down Lana had no issues in asia western gatekeepers were the ones that shot this girl down and cut her self worth in two
@@BillyWhaler I think US citizens who suffer from xenophobia DAILY would disagree with that lol. Look at the way South asians, Muslims, Latin folks and black people are treated in the states. I'm pretty sure that hatred extends to the kpop scene. I know it's an uncomfortable truth to digest
This really bothers me. Some kpop fans have an asian like fetish or something. America, British, Australian, most countries have and accept people from different countries and colors into their music industries. Thats normal. Even in Japan they have let in and gotten popular with the public both black and white singers. Americans are the only ones that have a problem with it. After reading comments between Japanese vs English it’s very telling. (The fans and the weird community) I only see this attitude with kpop. And for some reason its apparently not racist or creepy. Kpop has a bad name with some of the population for a reason. It’s completely normal and ok to expect korean to make up kpop and love that. Same with any other dominant population of a country. But there is not problem letting others into a industry. There is a huge double standard with peoples opinions between kpop/not western music industry vs western people towards their own countries being diverse.
EXACTLY. Even black swan said the hate they were mainly getting are from international funs, K-netizens seems really fund of them, I think some international fans have east asian fetish but refuses to believe it themselves.
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She debuted when kpop's hype was at its peak and just as toxic or even more. She was treated like sh*t by people.
If she would have debuted today, she would have been considered as "iconic" and "barrier breaking"
I saw a video of russians bullying and degrading a 17 yr old idol. That gehlee from unis. Russians are also nasty in real life, as someone who used to work in the hospitality industry and there were so many Russians in that country where I used to work.
I will support Lana. She does NOT deserve this hatred. Circus is a wonderful MV, and she has a lot of talent. I hope that Lana stays strong and continues to follow her dream!!!!
O gosh. I feel so sorry for her. She did not deserve all those hate. That is why every internet user has to verify everything they read on the internet. You do not believe everything you read especially controversial ones because most of them are all made up just to spread hate. Like I cannot believe there are so many who are so dense and stupid they go on the internet to talk shit about someone they have no prior knowledge of, just because of what they read or see on the internet.
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Glad you enjoyed 😊❤️
This really bothers me. Some kpop fans have an asian like fetish or something. America, British, Australian, most countries have and accept people from different countries and colors into their music industries. Thats normal. Even in Japan they have let in and gotten popular with the public both black and white singers. Americans are the only ones that have a problem with it. After reading comments between Japanese vs English it’s very telling. (The fans and the weird community)
I only see this attitude with kpop. And for some reason its apparently not racist or creepy.
Kpop has a bad name with some of the population for a reason.
It’s completely normal and ok to expect korean to make up kpop and love that. Same with any other dominant population of a country. But there is not problem letting others into a industry. There is a huge double standard with peoples opinions between kpop/not western music industry vs western people towards their own countries being diverse.
It wasn't surprising to me cause in America they are taught to hate Whites.
Omg Lana, i remembered watching her on Chuang 2020,, never knew that she a kpop idol
i hope what this girl went through and what Blackswan went through shows international kpop fans that we need to jump off the high horse and realise yall can be just as close minded as Knetz...sit with that.
Yeah, Blackswan also get hate from international k-pop fans, but many korean are accepting and supportive towards blackswan.
Thank you for covering this!
Thank you! I love your content; I watch it often ♥
I love lana very much she deserves more❤
I hope she becomes very successful. She worked really hard and hasn’t given up! Good luck ❤❤❤
Lana's really talented. She was always focused on how to respect kpop. It's really sad that jealous foreigners tried to destroy her.
This is so sad really. She was young and coming from other country just to make a career where she thought people would support her turns out to be a huge disappointment. She looks talented and sweet too. The company doesn't deserve her. They took in a foreigner just to make profit but never intend to protect or even like them. That's awful and cruel. And talking about her race is so much worse. People who learn and read a book would know that Russian has mix blood especially from Mongolia, China and Korea. They may look Asian, that's why she has some distinct features. The one who created rumours about plastic surgery and other hateful things were probably doesn't finish school or learn nothing their whole lives. They thought they were right but sadly they didn't. I hope Lana find her path and become happier with her new company or her new career. She really reminds me of Somi, just beautiful and talented.
Just a little adjustment - ethnically Russian people are Slavs (White) and don't look Asian, but Russia has 150+ different ethnicities, including Asian ethnicities. As far as I know Lana's dad is of Tatar ethnicity (a Turkic ethnic group).
Where did you get that information? The majority of Russians ( 81% ) are Slavs ( they're just white people ). What you're describing are other ethnic groups in Russia. Stop spreading lies on the internet. Look how many people believe your inaccurate information . 🤣
Good to hear Blackswan getting some acknowledgement
I saw everything that happened back then, I didnt understand the hate, but I didnt like her songs too much either. But the hate was unnessecary. I think the timing was really bad as international kpop fans. had this mindset that foreigners who arent asians shouldnt be kpop idols, but now that has changed quite a bit with blackswan and kpop companies debuting international groups like katseye, vcha and soon dear alice. Many other countries have artists from various backgrounds and i dont get it why is it problem when it comes to korea. Many Koreans seem more open to it honestly than international kpop fans and it is so weird to me.
Okkkk I listened to her new song and it is so good honestly she has improved so much since then. I hope she gets all the sucess. She has gained so much confidence and skill.
Guys you need to watch the video on kpc. The ones to blame is the timing and the company management.
Thank you :)))
It always happens, some people can't deal with change and others are just dumb and aggressive. Also I would say there's maybe a factor of envy cus many of those haters dream with become idols, so watching someone like them putting the effort and succeeding makes them mad. Btw it's the same in all type of careers, quite absurd to have to deal with that too but happens a lot.
the crazy thing is now no one would bat an eye at the idea of this concept. if she would have debuted under one of the big three or subsidiaries she would have had way more success and protected. (before anyone says anything, clearly this wasn’t an option to her at the time)
i remember when she debuted and stan insta and stan twitter WITCH HUNTED the poor girl. her debut vocals might not have been the best, but at least she sang on her stages.
i think if she was given the same opportunity now she’d be so successful. She’s beautiful, she can sing and dance well, and she fluent in multiple languages.
International kpop fans should be more open minded it seem they should realize that its not all about them their is a lot of people or fans that might support to the idol that they dont like if you don't like a certain idol dont bash them just ignore them and dont give your dumb so called opinion if its not good just keep it to yourself support who do you like just remember that they are just human who have emotion
People assume that invisible line between Russia and China is a wall..........lol
Here we have our own asian nationalities. Even Koreans are here. But to the world its only blond people with blue eyes (which not even most common look for russians).
Russia is full of ethnic minorities (me included). It is multicultural country.
Lana: she says that she is Tatar and therefore she looks like an Asian. People in the comments: Russia borders with China, so she is Chinese🤡 Are all Asians Chinese to you? It looks like racism
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love Lana and hope that she can get a chance to be a big star in korea and internationally too... she is very attractive beautiful and talented! Wild ent. should give her more work as a singer
I don’t think you can blame international fans for her flopping. yes, there are weirdos who harassed her bc she’s not Korean but there are kpop artists who are Korean who aren’t popular internationally but do well in korea so really, she still had the opportunity to do well.
They are blaming istans for the hate, cyber bullying, xenophobia, racism etc not because she is not big. Obviously her company not promoting her properly is the reason why she is not big.
Before her time honestly
😮It's great now she can talk about all the hate she received because it wasn´t fair but I don´t think she didn´t want to be a kpop singer o kpop idol because man, so why debuting in Korea instead of Russia or any other country? She and her company knew she accomplish korean beauty standards and also had the talent because she trained (as any trainee to become idol) so why denying facts? 🤔
That's the only thing I don't agree with.
I watched her in this match making show I think? I just remember she was paired with a guy that was trash. And I knew she did it because she didn’t want to ruin her image.
Lana is beautiful and holds so much talent, I’m upset she never got her chance
i follow the principle of "if koreans accept this idol debuting, why should i care?"
if they debut in korea and koreans dont object to them, then who am i, someone who isnt korean and lives outside of korea, to judge at all? lana deserves so much better and i will not take any critcism for this opinion
Not sure if this has been brought up previously, but the typical racist type Americans would not listen to Kpop in the first place..so I'm assuming these are kpop fans from certain ethnic groups that often complain about the lack of representation in US media, and they're jealous seeing non Asians represented in Asian countries
Geography lessons needed to them
she wasnt that good but she wasnt bad that it would trigger a lot of hate.... for her to succeed was to release a good song but that much bad publicity made it impossible to do anything.
If she was born later she could have gotten a spot in dream academy
There's a morrocan idol i saw i think she's called kim misou!!! Idk much about her u can maybe check her out 😅
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Blackswan also get negative comments from international kpop fans. Because They are not korean and they don't have korean members. But i have noticed most of the korean people are accepting and supportive towards blackswan.🫤 International fans need to change their mindset and be more open-minded
I always thought a group like Blackswan would have been loved by international fans, I’m genuinely so surprised about all the hate they’re receiving
Yeah, even Fatou has said Korea was so much more supportive.
People don't understand that Kpop is an industry before anything else, like kpop isn't just korean/asian people dancing y'all realise that right ?
😂😂
I’m not surprised I was pretty indifferent with whenever she did came out because I knew after the whole fiasco of how the international fans were treating Alex Ried I knew that her being an idol wasn’t going to be smooth. It is what it is. International fans are assholes. We’ve been saying this for a long time ever since DR decided to get Alex on their group. I knew that Lana didn’t have a chance that first Russian K-pop Idol stuff is not true would be considered the second Russian K-pop Idol. There was another one, but nobody paid attention to her. They just ignored her and they were kinda mean to, and if I remember correctly, didn’t even last they disbanded and if you seen her Instagram at the time she said that she was being bullied by fans and we know it’s international fans, so yeah international fans don’t have nothing better to do. They just bully and they have this idea what Asian K-pop should look like till this day some of them are still butt hurt we have black Swan. They have a long way to go. Don’t give me wrong. It’s changing slightly because when Black Swan started, it was semi garbage dumpster fire going on and later you still have people having little shit to say about the second group that has a foreigners in it that is non-Asian “Xin” if I remember correctly, JYP Hybe came out with a group that’s not considered K-pop And the international fans are still acting a little froggy like they don’t got no sense, if I remember correctly, there’s a new international Bori group that’s gonna be under a Korean company that supposed to be coming out they haven’t even debuted and people are going nuts already. Yeah I can understand they don’t fit what you would go for you got a better chance if they switch out their style and hopefully the music will be the par with this generations, taste of music for them to succeed it can happen. We do have bands that even though they don’t got big budget they’re doing pretty OK. so yeah any other ones that come after all these groups that are foreigner they’re going to have a hard time with these international fan😒🤷🏾♀️
Wow
I thought she was from the Asian population of Kazakstan…💀
Try to move in Philippines entertainment u will accepted openly.
You're not sure about that if she has a connection she can
Russians are not the best people in the world. As someone who used to work in the hospitality industry where we had plenty of Russian patrons. Even filipino colleagues have said so. And just recently I came upon a video filled with comments by Russians bullying Gehlee, a 17 yr old kpop idol from Unis. Russians are just as toxic. Don't you know that most russian only think of Filipinos as helpers? Filipinos should not be too nice to a fault to these foreigners.
she is ingush not russian (ethnically)
She is tatar
She looks korean
@ new_ allmylife Korean no she's Russian you got this wrong
I'm not hating on Lana, but of course Americans might not like her. Is she not aware what Putin and Russians are doing in the rest of the world? We are quite literally on opposite sides of full scale war. I'm not saying that's her fault and there's no reason to hate her personally, but she 's obviously not "reading the room" of international opinion right now.
f off with fn politics
broke man calling another man broke
You know that you americans did to the rest of the world? But no Russians are hating the American celebrities. Bruh
Ya. No. Sounds like she got games by her agency. Most hate from American fans? Guessing her agency wanted to find strawman for blame to avoid hate on Korean fans for rac ist treatment of her. America hating a Russian K-pop star is absurd. This is on her company. She got played.
not that absurd American fans can be just as close minded as knetz the vitriol Fatou got when she first came out even Gabi still gets hate Korea loved her down Lana had no issues in asia western gatekeepers were the ones that shot this girl down and cut her self worth in two
nope American kpop stans can be just as closeminded as knetz especially when it comes to none Asian idols.
@@likhwezititus That seems doubtful. US has faults but embracing international influence is not one.
@@BillyWhaler I think US citizens who suffer from xenophobia DAILY would disagree with that lol. Look at the way South asians, Muslims, Latin folks and black people are treated in the states. I'm pretty sure that hatred extends to the kpop scene. I know it's an uncomfortable truth to digest
@@likhwezititus ya. So much diversity in Japan, Korea and China. Bursting with diversity.
Lana flop
This really bothers me. Some kpop fans have an asian like fetish or something. America, British, Australian, most countries have and accept people from different countries and colors into their music industries. Thats normal. Even in Japan they have let in and gotten popular with the public both black and white singers. Americans are the only ones that have a problem with it. After reading comments between Japanese vs English it’s very telling. (The fans and the weird community)
I only see this attitude with kpop. And for some reason its apparently not racist or creepy.
Kpop has a bad name with some of the population for a reason.
It’s completely normal and ok to expect korean to make up kpop and love that. Same with any other dominant population of a country. But there is not problem letting others into a industry. There is a huge double standard with peoples opinions between kpop/not western music industry vs western people towards their own countries being diverse.
EXACTLY. Even black swan said the hate they were mainly getting are from international funs, K-netizens seems really fund of them, I think some international fans have east asian fetish but refuses to believe it themselves.