Please add more footage with item you describing , e.g. this rack. From different angles, show different aspects of it usage and how it mounts. Any way, great video. Thanks!
I’ve seen installs done where they drill through the black weather stripping that lays in that channel. I would assume that helps prevent the leaking not having a channel to hold water.
On the wilderness model, there was no weather stripping in the channel because it was covered by the factory roof rails. May be different on other vehicles, but that was my experience.
Great set of information presented clearly. I am leaning towards Prinsu because of the higher-than-stock static rating and low profile on my older SH Forester.
@@hankitytankity before you buy it you might wanna know that it retains water and doesn’t have a way to drain so the water just sits on top of your vehicle in the roof rack rails in an open channel. Huge design flaw.
The informative video you provided was greatly appreciated. I recently acquired a Subaru Crosstrek through Facebook Marketplace, and the seller had outfitted it with the same roof rack to the one showcased, albeit without the light bar. Featuring a 2-inch lift, impressive tires and rims, along with an older light bar from 2018, I am thoroughly enjoying my new vehicle. However, I am in need of a compatible rack system that seamlessly integrates with the existing roof rack for securely transporting my mountain bike. Understanding the modular nature of roof racks, I seek your advice on selecting the appropriate accessory to ensure safe transportation of my bike without any mishaps while traversing the freeway lol
Ran Prinsu on my Tacoma for years and it was the best out there. Easy to install and was a few hours DIY work. Really want it for my OBW but it’s a nightmare; but hey, you can drive to Idaho and have them install it lol
Great video. Buying a Subaru Forester Wilderness? Going to use the Prinsu rack only for a Rooftop tent.., 83 inches long by 51 inches. Should I get extra crossbars or not? Thanks
You will not need extra crossbars. Get in touch with Adventure Rig Shop on the rack, they can probably get you a discount on the rack. info@adventurerigshop.com is the email address.
@@roamingwithjosh awesome thanks bro was wondering what bar light would fit with it. Have you looked into Prinsus new pro lineup? It’s a shame they don’t have it available yet for Subarus, I would hate to invest into a rack just for them to soon release a pro one for Subarus
I wonder if for the extra cost, purchasing different hardware for the crossbar connections would be worth it…given what you said. Stainless steel hex heads may not match but will not rust and will break free from thread lock easier. Thoughts??
Don’t buy it until the major design flaw is fixed. The new Prinsu pro roof rack on my 24 Land cruiser fills up with water whenever it rains. The crossbars have an open channel that retain water. I called Prinsu they told me I needed to dry the rack every time it rains. Major design flaw all they need to do is drill two small holes in the bottom of each crossbar to prevent this water from pooling.
Outside of appearance, the most appealing benefit of the prinsu is the dynamic and static load amounts (500/1000lb respectively). The front runner only recommends 88lbs distributed evenly, what a waste of $$. I've got a Thule rack system now on the factory rails, but will like switch to the prinsu soon to increase to increase load capabilities.
That makes perfect sense. I didn't realize the load rating was so different for the front runner rack. email info@adventurerigshop.com and see if they can give you a discount when you decide to pull the trigger.
The Load Amounts of the rack don't supersede the load amounts of the roof of your vehicle, though, and the rack itself will count towards the load amount on the roof. Just something to consider before you go throwing 1000lbs of stuff up there (in case your factory roof can't handle that).
Josh, can the spacers be made shorter so that the Prinsu rack is lower? I hate that horrible gap that looks like it can be eliminated with shorter spacers. Thanks in advance.
I did my own Prinsu install on my Subaru Crosstrek, best mod I have ever done to the vehicle. I did the initial install mid winter in Canada, and used silicone, but the silicone was too cold, and it leaked within a week. So I redid the install in my garage and kept the silicone in a hot glass of water to keep it fluid, and it worked amazingly well when I did the install RIGHT. The Prinsu rack is fucking awesome, I recommend it, but for the love of god use sealant. Always use sealant for any mods. I used RTV sealant, its the perfect material for it and relatively a permanent solution. It has been two years since my redo, living in a boreal rainforest, on a mountain where we get feet of snow, in Canada, with zero issue whatsoever. Rack handles my direct mount ski racks, rooftop tent, roof boxes, all of it. Best mod ever.
From a person running regularly crossbars (rhinorack vortex) vs a rack, what are the actual advantages to a rack vs traditional bars? To me it feels like you gain more attachment points, but loose access to the more aerodynamic “road” storage boxes. Both can hold RTTs, awnings, shovels, and even maxtrax… maybe I just don’t get the appeal of the mpg hit of the roam boxes? I’ll admit that they do look cooler.
I think a lot of it comes down to looks as well as additional mounting options. I had crossbars at first and was limited in mounting options. Again, I think looks plays the biggest part and the Roam boxes are nice, but they don't get used too much in my case which is why I removed them. I would like to add another one with a slimmer profile to toss tools and gear in for longer trips, but I would remove it when I got home to save some cash.
The Prinsu rack is so low-profile and flexible, but the installation trouble vs utility (for my use case anyway) wasn't worth it. Bars it is. Which reminds me: In the comments of the wench bumper video, I asked about the fairing on that vehicle and you said it's in R&D. Any update to share on it?
I'm considering the new Prinsu Pro for my Rav4 SE. It looks like it just bolts on, but I can't find any info on their website. Taking my brand new ride apart and drilling sounds risky. Has anyone bought the new Prinsu Pro?
Prinsu does recommend using an adhesive sealant during installation. Not to sound like an ***** but anyone who doesn’t do this is an idiot and is asking for trouble straight up! Every application in the world that involves two hard surfaces mating together in the elements has a gasket or sealer of some sort so be sure and seal it up. It’s not difficult and it’s common sense.
The rack is great. Instructions suck. The plusnuts are poor quality. They should have just went with rivnuts. Also it should come with silicone and rubber washers. I bought stainless steel hardware from McMaster and installed with crush washers and anti seize
Prinsu is junk. I had one on my 5th gen 4runner, it leaked, it flexed, the hardware corroded. Removed it after only a year and bought a Sherpa and never had a single issue. Unfortunately for Subaru owners, there isn't a huge selection of brands for this type of expedition rack. Really wish Sherpa made one for the Outback.
You straight-up rock those specs. I know that has nothing to do with roof racks, but just wanted to throw that out there. 😁
Thanks!
Please add more footage with item you describing , e.g. this rack. From different angles, show different aspects of it usage and how it mounts.
Any way, great video. Thanks!
Thanks!
I’ve seen installs done where they drill through the black weather stripping that lays in that channel. I would assume that helps prevent the leaking not having a channel to hold water.
On the wilderness model, there was no weather stripping in the channel because it was covered by the factory roof rails. May be different on other vehicles, but that was my experience.
I was thinking the same thing.
Great set of information presented clearly. I am leaning towards Prinsu because of the higher-than-stock static rating and low profile on my older SH Forester.
Awesome! Thanks for the comment!
@@hankitytankity before you buy it you might wanna know that it retains water and doesn’t have a way to drain so the water just sits on top of your vehicle in the roof rack rails in an open channel. Huge design flaw.
The informative video you provided was greatly appreciated. I recently acquired a Subaru Crosstrek through Facebook Marketplace, and the seller had outfitted it with the same roof rack to the one showcased, albeit without the light bar. Featuring a 2-inch lift, impressive tires and rims, along with an older light bar from 2018, I am thoroughly enjoying my new vehicle. However, I am in need of a compatible rack system that seamlessly integrates with the existing roof rack for securely transporting my mountain bike. Understanding the modular nature of roof racks, I seek your advice on selecting the appropriate accessory to ensure safe transportation of my bike without any mishaps while traversing the freeway lol
LOL glad it was helpful!
Ran Prinsu on my Tacoma for years and it was the best out there. Easy to install and was a few hours DIY work. Really want it for my OBW but it’s a nightmare; but hey, you can drive to Idaho and have them install it lol
lololol yea that doesn't seem to be the most logical option.
Holy crap. Thank you for this! You are a legend!
LOL anytime!
Great video. Buying a Subaru Forester Wilderness? Going to use the Prinsu rack only for a Rooftop tent.., 83 inches long by 51 inches. Should I get extra crossbars or not? Thanks
You will not need extra crossbars. Get in touch with Adventure Rig Shop on the rack, they can probably get you a discount on the rack. info@adventurerigshop.com is the email address.
What bar light are you using with your rack
This one - amzn.to/40MAItj
@@roamingwithjosh awesome thanks bro was wondering what bar light would fit with it. Have you looked into Prinsus new pro lineup? It’s a shame they don’t have it available yet for Subarus, I would hate to invest into a rack just for them to soon release a pro one for Subarus
Have you ever looked at the nashfab roof rack for the OB? I believe you don't need to make a rounder hole so it fits with the factory holes.
I haven't seen videos on that roof rack. That's why I asking honestly. I feel like your more in touch with what's available for the Subaru OB.
I have seen it, but have not put much thought into it as of yet.
I wonder if for the extra cost, purchasing different hardware for the crossbar connections would be worth it…given what you said. Stainless steel hex heads may not match but will not rust and will break free from thread lock easier. Thoughts??
Since this video I do believe they offer all stainless steel hardware with all of their racks now.
Don’t buy it until the major design flaw is fixed. The new Prinsu pro roof rack on my 24 Land cruiser fills up with water whenever it rains. The crossbars have an open channel that retain water. I called Prinsu they told me I needed to dry the rack every time it rains. Major design flaw all they need to do is drill two small holes in the bottom of each crossbar to prevent this water from pooling.
Outside of appearance, the most appealing benefit of the prinsu is the dynamic and static load amounts (500/1000lb respectively). The front runner only recommends 88lbs distributed evenly, what a waste of $$. I've got a Thule rack system now on the factory rails, but will like switch to the prinsu soon to increase to increase load capabilities.
That makes perfect sense. I didn't realize the load rating was so different for the front runner rack. email info@adventurerigshop.com and see if they can give you a discount when you decide to pull the trigger.
The Load Amounts of the rack don't supersede the load amounts of the roof of your vehicle, though, and the rack itself will count towards the load amount on the roof. Just something to consider before you go throwing 1000lbs of stuff up there (in case your factory roof can't handle that).
Josh, can the spacers be made shorter so that the Prinsu rack is lower? I hate that horrible gap that looks like it can be eliminated with shorter spacers. Thanks in advance.
I'm sure you could, never thought about it.
I did my own Prinsu install on my Subaru Crosstrek, best mod I have ever done to the vehicle. I did the initial install mid winter in Canada, and used silicone, but the silicone was too cold, and it leaked within a week. So I redid the install in my garage and kept the silicone in a hot glass of water to keep it fluid, and it worked amazingly well when I did the install RIGHT. The Prinsu rack is fucking awesome, I recommend it, but for the love of god use sealant. Always use sealant for any mods. I used RTV sealant, its the perfect material for it and relatively a permanent solution. It has been two years since my redo, living in a boreal rainforest, on a mountain where we get feet of snow, in Canada, with zero issue whatsoever. Rack handles my direct mount ski racks, rooftop tent, roof boxes, all of it. Best mod ever.
Awesome stuff! Glad to hear you've had a good experience and hopefully others will read this comment and follow your lead!
Spider Roof Racks are "No Drill". Still have to drop the headliner and make sure you add plenty of sealant.
From a person running regularly crossbars (rhinorack vortex) vs a rack, what are the actual advantages to a rack vs traditional bars? To me it feels like you gain more attachment points, but loose access to the more aerodynamic “road” storage boxes. Both can hold RTTs, awnings, shovels, and even maxtrax… maybe I just don’t get the appeal of the mpg hit of the roam boxes? I’ll admit that they do look cooler.
I think a lot of it comes down to looks as well as additional mounting options. I had crossbars at first and was limited in mounting options. Again, I think looks plays the biggest part and the Roam boxes are nice, but they don't get used too much in my case which is why I removed them. I would like to add another one with a slimmer profile to toss tools and gear in for longer trips, but I would remove it when I got home to save some cash.
The Prinsu rack is so low-profile and flexible, but the installation trouble vs utility (for my use case anyway) wasn't worth it. Bars it is.
Which reminds me: In the comments of the wench bumper video, I asked about the fairing on that vehicle and you said it's in R&D. Any update to share on it?
Makes sense! Nothing has came of that yet from my understanding.
I'm considering the new Prinsu Pro for my Rav4 SE. It looks like it just bolts on, but I can't find any info on their website. Taking my brand new ride apart and drilling sounds risky. Has anyone bought the new Prinsu Pro?
A lot of them just bolt on, the wilderness was different then my GX.
The question is do I want a new GMC truck or an Outback Wilderness and an aluminum trailer?
That's a tough choice!
Prinsu does recommend using an adhesive sealant during installation. Not to sound like an ***** but anyone who doesn’t do this is an idiot and is asking for trouble straight up!
Every application in the world that involves two hard surfaces mating together in the elements has a gasket or sealer of some sort so be sure and seal it up. It’s not difficult and it’s common sense.
You would think it's common sense....
The rack is great. Instructions suck. The plusnuts are poor quality. They should have just went with rivnuts. Also it should come with silicone and rubber washers. I bought stainless steel hardware from McMaster and installed with crush washers and anti seize
Agreed!
Prinsu is junk. I had one on my 5th gen 4runner, it leaked, it flexed, the hardware corroded. Removed it after only a year and bought a Sherpa and never had a single issue. Unfortunately for Subaru owners, there isn't a huge selection of brands for this type of expedition rack. Really wish Sherpa made one for the Outback.
Thanks for the info!
i really appreciate your information.... but, please god, get to the point on the same day. its kinda exhausting listening
Thanks!
First!