I had the same thing happen to me in 1978 with the USAF: "Qualified for Commission, Not Qualified for Pilot or Navigator Training". It just about killed me at the time. But I survived-- got my commission (1983), went ICBMs, served on crew for 4.5 years, and continued on as a reservist...made Colonel in 2006...all while pursuing a great civilian career in aerospace. Along the way, I deployed to the desert in 2003-04, and got to work with the RAF during that deployment (including working for a Tornado pilot/commander who later made a very high rank in the RAF). It's hard to believe in one's early 20s...but EVERYTHING happens for a reason. The good news for the subject of the video is that "One opportunity closing, creates another opportunity you wouldn't otherwise have had or noticed..." You can still have limitless possibilities...embrace them and excel! Best of luck.
Exactly the same thing happened to me 25 years ago. I was desperate to get in to the RAF but was told that my eyesight wasn't good enough to be a pilot. I was told that the good news was that I was suitable for the admin/sec career path. Having said "Thank you very much Sir but no thanks" to the recruitment officer I found a very vaguely related job and haven't looked back since. What you think you want to do in life isn't necessarily what you'll find as a purpose in life.
I remember thinking, 'I've done my last course' after joining the ARV unit. Little did I know. It was only the beginning. The pressure was never off from then on
Good presentation. Dito myself. Not able to join RAF as pilot for a half dozen reasons. But was able to become a gliding instructor teaching RAF Cadets at week ends via the ATC . So still on RAF stations and mixing with pilots. As a career I ended up in the Police Force. 30 wonderful years which enabled me to see life at the raw end. But also got overseas travel to report on other countries policing. PS. Wish I was 19 again though !!!!
Hard as it is, especially when it was your dream. Be the best you can be at whatever you are able to do. You cannot change what has occurred, and all the negative feelings whilst understable will hold you back. You are very fortunate that you have the insight and recognition of this issue, not everyone is as honest and open as you. You will find another passion, not better not worse, just different.
I’m sorry to pull you up on one point, time is a healer. My wife died, aged 44, over 21 years ago, and I’m now thinking of her more and more each day. I appreciate that everyone is different and have different coping mechanisms, so in my case time is not a healer. Love your videos by the way.
I’ve been told by multiple members of the RAF, including fast jet/helicopter pilots and a station commander, that they are accepting pilots who have corrected their vision with laser eye surgery as long as the vision impairment wasn’t stronger than -7.5 (something like that). I understand that it is an expensive option, but according to RAF regulations, if you wait until you’re 22 to get your eyes treated, and apply 12 months after your surgery, they will allow it. I could be wrong but this is what I am doing and have been told by RAF members that it’s the best option.
Yes indeed - the point is that the person, when tested, passes the relevent test. If one breaks a leg and then recover - same deal. After repair there has to be a 12 month period of stabilisation
I had the same thing in 1989. My best mate got in though. I then had 15 years of my mate telling me about what he was doing. Actually, we did a lot of simulation flying together in MS FS (various versions up to 98). Not getting in is bad but TBH it's 10x worse when your best mate gets to go and you don't. I came to terms with it in the end but never really got over it.
Same here. A very good mate who had no interest in flying happened to apply to the Navy for some reason after university - I think just to piss me off after I'd spent an entire childhood obsessed with flying only to be rejected by the RAF for a Flying Scholarship at 17 because they found my eyes don't fly in formation - he got in and flew helicopters. Mind you, he's now been driving an Airbus for Sleazy Jet for decades and hates it, while I eventually became a civilian aerobatic display pilot tumbling Extras, Pitts and a Giles all over the sky. So swings and roundabouts.
Hi Tim - this video has great significance for me - late 70s passed Biggin Hill only to then get told ‘No’ at a final precautionary medical at CME London because of a spinal issue - ejector seat might cripple me and as you say there’s no pre-screening and that was that. This hit me very hard because Biggin Hill had already passed me and final check was a ‘formality’. Lost in a world of self pity for a few years finally got myself together, did PPL and followed a career (non aviation) that took me all over the world and ended up living in Australia for last 20 years in a career that has bags of purpose and an abundance of responsibility albeit not the ‘glamorous’ role I had originally and desperately craved. So ‘D’ if you’re listening, take it from me who suffered the same fate all those years ago that with the benefit of a full life experience afterwards I totally relate to what Tim is saying and I for one now totally ‘get it’. I would not change a thing because the whole experience gave me the purpose and resilience I probably lacked before. And finally, all that I have now I probably would not have had should that path not have changed .... think “sliding doors” 😊👍
The same as happened to me lately. I have a mild peanut allergy and understandably it bars me from all services, I’ve thought about and wanted an RAF career since I was about 12, I’m 19 now. Annoying but I will move on and look at other options.
Hey Tim, Amazing what drops into your YT feed in the wee hours on the West Coast! Interesting channel you have here. I’d just like to say, for the benefit of D, that I was chopped from IOT in 1985. My world, I thought, had collapsed. And of course, that’s bollocks! (But at the time, it certainly felt pretty bad). D’s is a well trodden path - very similar to my own. I kept pushing with my civilian training, which was hard, particularly financially - but eventually qualified... so it is doable. ...nearly 35 years later, I’m a skipper with a large airline (when we’re not on strike)! And I get to fly with some great people (with JG on this trip - and have flown with Scrabble a few times). Your little tip to D to get into the airlines ASAP and get some seniority is a good one, and was easily missed - not that the airline world is the be all and end all, but if D is going to head in this direction, then to do it ASAP is good advice. Advice to D, just keep pushing through. If you really want to get the thrill of hoying an aircraft around the skies, then Aeros is a good release for that sort of thing - I know it’s not the same as flying fast jets (and I’m lucky enough to have flown in the back of Hawks and other exotica in my NUAS days), but it’s not a bad substitute - and you get to do it on your terms, not when someone is ordering you to go flying! Equally, do something else for that ‘buzz’ - track days in cars are fun, sailing high performance boats - there are lots of ways to get your kicks. In 20 years time, D will be sat in the left seat of a big jet, with an ex-mob guy in the right, and can hoover up all the war stories he wants - and get to hear about how the rest of life in the mob wasn’t necessarily all that good. He’ll then reflect that he hasn’t done too badly after all. It’s difficult to advise a 19 year old to keep some perspective, but purpose and focus on an end goal is what D needs right now IMO. Keep plugging away D.
Tim, just a word to say that your stuff is timely and of great use. Really good work. I pass on your stuff to people young and old who are seeking a way forward during the whole COVID thing. I do warn them that they're going to get hit by Truth Bombs! :-) Thanks again for all your hard work.
I’ve had the same issue. I was devastated when I was rejected from the Army Air, RAF & Navy Pilot (Rotary) Yes, I applied to all and got reject each time. I knew it was my going to be my life from a young young age. However, it was not to be. I actually had no interest in being a fast pilot, or apache. I only wanted to save & protect. Rescue & Medic flying. So I also started flying rotary and luckily for me, my instructor was Sean Reynolds, I’m sure you know him. We had some fun flying and he trained me in a lot of ways you’d never normally get trained in for private flying. So my aim now is to start my ATPL/IR & eventually join NPAS. (Mine was a slight food intolerance to dairy, which is ironic because everyone has a very slight intolerance to dairy.)
Tim, that was a fascinating talk and rang lots of bells with me. I was an RAF pilot for 32 years, although a previous generation to you (1966-1997). Probably previous to your instructors!! My question seeks amplification of the "Passion vs Purpose" argument. I always felt that it was my PURPOSE to fly aeroplanes. When that finally evaporated, I immediately left, but stayed involved as a civilian sim instructor. I ended up spending 50 years in aviation and would still be doing it now if I wasn't too damn old! I may have had Passion as a lad, I can't remember now, but what I did feel is "this is what I want to do with my life". Is that Passion, Purpose, or Monomania!?
Passion is something that burns brightly but for a short time, like a flare (think of an affair) - purpose tends to endure much longer. You truly lived through the golden age of aviation especially in the military, but we all eventually need to face another challenge, we are just those type of people. Lovely comment, thank you.
fully understand the disappointment. I was going to be a pilot from the age of 8. At 18 I passed the selection process for both the RAF and BEA/BOAC (which shows how long ago it was! 1971 to be precise) For various reasons elected to go commercial rather than military. I spent 6 months in training and got chopped - with reason; after 16 hours training I still hadn't gone solo and didn't look like I was going to. I couldn't look at a aeroplane for years. Went to college, trained as a teacher worked for four years and resigned. Applied to the RAF again and was accepted for training as a fighter controller. Spent 18 years (mostly enjoyable, frequently challenging) in the RAF and have never regretted it. Oh, and on the way I got my PPL after soloing in 5 hours! Is there a moral to this story? Two actually; #1 The end isn't the end it's just a momentary check on the journey. #2 Don't give up, there is always a way to get what you want - but it might not be the way you expected.
Good advice.Passion helps you start but purpose is better. Same reasons i left BA cabin crew. still love flying but as a GA pilot instead,there are downsideds to airline flying as well.Lots of bs & crew politics. Retrained as a flight ops officer/planner and took up music again.
Thinking of my cousin RAF pilot 1958-1973 hated every last minute of it. He did not join to be a pilot but sit in the back with electronics but the needs of the Air Force comes first.
Hi Tim, I'm only a road worker, but I'm learning to fly a Gyro-copter ( with the eventual aim of becoming an instructor, hopefully), so I'm probably not qualified to comment on this, but my message to "D" would be, you are already doing great things, you are further along the path than me, and you have a great future in front of you, I'm in my late 50s, so I have come to this late in life, and there are some that would say I'm too old, but, I'm determined to see it through, you have youth on your side, so don't feel downhearted, there are many options open to you, stay safe, all the best, Stephen.
I wasn’t able to be a RN pilot due to the same reason. I love flying (was in the ATC and had a gliding scholarship). Ended up doing 3 years in the Army but still sad that I couldn’t do what I wanted.
@@phill2010uk How have you done with that quest? Belatedly I wish you well. Be nice to the cadets - don't use the position as an ego-trip like many others.
I grew up planning on being aircrew of some description - love of planes and a family with RAF aircrew history. First time I went for selection as a cocky 17 year-old the interviewer tore me to shreds and put me back on the bottom rung, just as I deserved. Joined up anyway as an engineer and always planned to re-apply, but life got in the way and here I am, 20 years later, having had a great career fixing them instead of flying them. Everything from maritime, transport and SF helicopters. I do kick myself for not having gone for selection post growing up, but the past is the past. Many other career paths are available - mine involved emptying a few more aircraft toilets than I expected when I was younger...
Don't agree with your view on passion. Passion's good. It drives excellence. But proper passion. Not the nonsense in adverts and written on the sides of plumbers' vans. I was totally consumed with planes and flying since I was a little kid. Books, Airfix kits, air band radio, air cadets, hanging around airfields, air navigation and meteorology O'level (grade A). The lot. Because I'd read everything, by the time I got on an ATC gliding course in Ventures in 1981 at the age of 16, I solo'd in 3 hours. Asked to stay on as a staff cadet and spent every weekend for the next few years helping out at the airfield, flying like a lunatic, doing stupid things, and getting drunk on Saturday nights with the other staff cadets. When I hit 17, I applied for a Flying Scholarship. Off to Biggin Hill. Aced the aptitude tests, all good in the interviews, and then they found my eyes didn't work as a team. They did work hard to get me through by sending me to the CME in London for a second look, but the doc there said, "Nope, there's a chance you'll see two enemy aircraft in the distance when there's only one and fire one too many expensive missiles." I said I thought they had radars for that, but it didn't fly. And nor would I. They said I could be a navigator and awarded me a Navigation Scholarship instead. I spent two weeks in the back of a Chipmunk out of RAF Abingdon telling a bloke where to go, but I much preferred tossing the thing about myself when the driver let me. And it really only served to confirm that I wasn't going to be flying for a living any time soon. A PPL was out of the question within the next few years, being at school, and there was no way the old man was going to cough up the green. So, I was adrift. No idea what to do and directed my efforts to birds, booze and partying. While trying to work out my next move, a mate who liked fishing suggested marine biology. I was doing the right A'levels, so applied and pretended I was into it. Scraped into my first choice university, got the degree, but was bored with it by my third year and had no idea what to do next. A mate suggested advertising - there's a theme here - as he thought I liked business and did a lot of painting. So I got a job at Saatchi & Saatchi. Didn't particularly like it, but I figured that's what I've chosen, might as well be as good as possible at it. Five years in I was making enough money to get my PPL. Three years later bought my first plane. A mint 1947 Aeronca 11AC. Got into aerobatics and two years later bought another plane. A beautifully, totally rebuilt by Hawker Restorations Extra 230 (Brian Lecomber's old bird). Won some aerobatic competitions over the next two years and packed in advertising and started my own aerobatic display business with another Extra (a 200) and a Pitts S2B. Then a Giles G202 after another 3 years. After another 12 years of ridiculous amounts of fun and incredible experiences, I got bored of it, and it became increasingly difficult to keep things going as costs rose, airfields closed, and aerobatic piston aircraft became as popular as a bad case of hemorrhoids. I now do completely different stuff. Don't fly at all. Been there, done that, got lots of T-shirts, and my passion has been totally and utterly satisfied. I am with you on the importance of variation. A lot of people do get stuck doing the same thing forever, even when the shine has well and truly worn off. Keep on keeping on. You're giving a valuable service. Later.
Interesting, correct some people will never get there. I wanted to go FJ pilot wasn’t good enough. However I joined the Fleet Air Arm and really enjoyed it. I did go All Arms Commando though which most will never pass. I can imagine the RAF could be a bit dull though doing the same thing. At least in the RN deployments could have a different role.
Yes, totally agree. This, I think, is largely the problem with the RAF - young fighter pilots getting frustrated and bored after working so hard to get to the top. I think this is why many see them as arrogant, it's an internal frustration and why I always recommend the RN over the RAF.
I always wanted to be a pilot but let’s just say my last year at school I wagged most f it. I ended up joining the army, joined the Royal Signals. After 2 years I wanted a bit more adventure even though in my days as a radio relay op we were sent out even before the special forces, to go out n get set up on top of a mountain or a gps position when in the gulf war n we actually crossed into Iraqi territory 4 weeks before the war actually started n we were in a 5 man team & I loved it. Anyway I did P Company, passed & was part of 16 air assault brigade. My new job was a JTAC (Joint Terminal Air Controller). I basically went out with the Paras & if we needed support, be it an artillery strike, call in fast air (only wanted British or US platforms) as other nations (French cough, German cough n other’s) were not very good n even to get a show of force out of them u had to beg as we sat on the ground with bullet’s pinging past our ears. So I would talk a pilot onto a target & vaporise the threat. I LOVED IT, I got my aviation fix by talking to pilots, loved watching all the different airframes in action, we even had Tornados a few times. Watching that target knowing a paveway had jus come off the rail of a jet up high n waiting for that 2000lbs shockwave, I did all the wars since 1990-2007. I agree hugely that the military does hardly anything to get u de-militarised. In job interviews I was yes sir, no sir etc. Even when I was working I got annoyed when something wasn’t done n the excuse was always “that’s not part of my job description”. In the army if. Something was needing doing it was just done. I would go nuts n before long I was always infront of HR. It took easily over 2 years to even start to act normal.
Fast Jet Performance that’s great that you do that. I think even now I still having that army cassette inserted into my head during basic training & STILL have issues & I feel now that I have to let MY own self set standards drop & let it pass just to not cause a fuss n that shouldn’t be the case. I think many a civilian company would do well to have a load of ex squaddies as we would work as a team & just get the 🤬🤬🤬 Job done. They could probably operate with 50% less staff. I truly believe that. If you have any events on helping with this I would very much be interested. Thank you for replying & for the work you do in helping fellow brothers in arms. You’re videos & advice I find is invaluable, like the one regarding the car crash scenario. If that were a bunch of ex mil in said scenario then all of what you said would mainly just flow & everyone would find their own piece of the pic to do & mostly would be done with minimal communication. After all, the British forces ARE the best in the world & if we had the numbers & equipment we would be unbeatable. Just look at the Falklands, all Chinooks Bar the famous one that survived were lost & the ground commanders were just like “ok we walk”. Any other country would of held back n waited or done something dumb.
after 10 years of wanting to be an airline pilot I hit reality at 18 realised I was never going to have the money to throw into being an airline pilot, I decided to become a truck driver because I love driving and at 28 i've never been happier.
Many of us move onto the roads, trains also but that is quite difficult to get into late in life. My father was a professional driver as a Police Traffic Officer, driving is in the family blood, Max.
@@FastJetPerformance I loved the video you spoke a lot of truth especially explaining to the kid that even though you lived the dream he wanted to live; that actually there are always negatives and no job is truly perfect without its downfalls and you sacrificed a lot to live the dream. I always think the 'what if' but to be honest a truck driver was my child hood dream job which changed at 8 years old to a pilot even had 10 hours of flying lessons in a cess 152. My partner's in the police she loves and hates it as you can guess haha. Look forward to the next video.
Hi Tim, I think D sounds very well-based, his youth is working against him but agree time will heal. He has given himself tasks PPL etc. I think he has a great outlook and mature enough to realize he needs to ask for help & feedback. I think he'll do well despite the current hurt he's feeling. More power to him. Good lad. He should stay busy or even busier - maybe get some engineering or science qualifications (hands-on or academic) and continue with flying. I think the right door will open when he's ready and he'll be well set-up. I'm a science grad with poor eyesight (no RAF for me either!) lifelong interest in aviation, first a simulator engineer, then avionics, now leading ground-based air surveillance projects for the defence of Switzerland. Also ATSEP (ground maintenance engineer) training manager for my company. Retirement age in 3 months.. Looking forward to your Hawk out of Sion, Tim.
Hey FJP, I’ve applied to become a pilot in the RAF but just missed out because of CBAT, I’ve opted to switching my application to WSOP Fixed wing and am wondering what the odds are of being able to retake CBAT further down the line and transfer over to pilot. I’ve had a lot of mixed answers. Some say that it’s possible and they know people who have and others say that it doesn’t happen often. Especially because they are in need of WSOPs and not of Pilots. Just eager to hear your thoughts on the issue. Thanks, Michael
I would redo CBATs if you really want pilot, I've never heard, personally, of WSOps doing CBATs again for pilot, not to say that can't ever happen, but I always advise to push for number one choice until no longer available.
Hi I'm a 17 year old in year 2 of sixth form with good enough vision and I would LOVE LOVE to become a pilot in the raf. What are the chances of me getting in are they realistic? I'm in the raf cadets and I'm very fit and healthy no medical conditions. Should I go into medical or pilot
I work with Ex Mil and Police, Il help him out if he wants. (Ex Army and Police) I work with lots of Guys and Girls in similar positions or the transition to civvy.
I’m 15 right now, I’ve been thinking for a long time about joining Air Cadets in year 11 and taking a levels after year 11 (I start in year 11 in September) and then going to join the RAF as a pilot soon after. Should I bother trying to join the RAF or is there no point? (I am in love with the idea of flying as a fighter pilot for the RAF and have been for years)
And remember: you're not assured a pilot job, let alone a fighter pilot job, when you join the air force. You get the job the air force needs you to do, not the job you want to do.
Benjamin: Visit the Military Aviation section of PPrune.org where you'll find hundreds of pages of advice for guys like yourself. In fact, I've put a link a link down below for you.. Facts not ill-informed opinions. www.pprune.org/military-aviation/405176-officer-aircrew-candidates-please-read-thread-first.html
I'm not convinced by the "carpmentalise it, put it behind you, move on, time is a great healer" advice. That sounds like repression to me ... useful in the short term but still unresolved and likely to come back and bite you later as time often does not heal things that are effectively compartmentalised. Perhaps this is what happened to this chap: when he found out he couldn't go RAF he didn't fully consider it - he compartmentalised - now it's starting to pull his attention and distract him from the present. Rather, I would recommend that he fully considers what not being in the RAF means to him. What he thinks he is missing out on (which may be different, as you said, to the reality). To allow himself to become irrational and emotional about it without acting out on those things. To search for the most painful place in his emotions within this experience (failure?) and head towards it. To allow the sensations in the body, to breathe with them and, with any luck, they will begin to transform. This may well reveal another emotional structure which was underpinning the initial passion. But eventually they will clear - possibly leaving the person lacking the direction they previously had in their live - a scary prospect. As you said, this can be filled with other explorations and responsibilities until satisfying, realistic, and challenging (but, perhaps, less amazing or glamourous) options emerge.
I wouldn't rule out having a successful post-military career in a lot of things. Most astronauts for example, come to it after a successful career as a pilot, so, get your name in with the ESA if you're interested. There's lots of competition but you know, you're in roughly the right age group that most astronaut pilots are in when they get to space. Musician? Not impossible. Actor? Alan Rickman was 42 when he got his break as Hans Gruber in "Die Hard". Samuel L Jackson was in his 40s when he started, and Judi Dench was in her 60s when her movie career took off. Leonardo Da Vinci was 49 when he painted his first masterpiece. What matters is vision and dedication. The only absolute no-nos are ones like this chap and his desired career as an RAF pilot. where the folks in charge have a hard rule.
thats about as honest a reply as I have seen....... boy would I have love to fly - even went to try and circumvent the RAF route (short sighted) by going through army to fly helis .... guess what? RAF then taught Army Air Corps...... some kind person suggested I join army pay corps...... nothing wrong with army pay corps - great career course - but not for me......... so I did a lot of things since.... sales management.... management - but now I am a self employed tiler and cabinet maker........... and happy (bar this lockdown tyranny)... Good man - glad you got to fly and also to see that there is no perfect career........ love your videos (I'm in the cockpit). whats not to like? best for the future my friend.
You'll be fine, it's all settled down now. I assume for the Grob? Have a read of the NAO Reports online just to get an idea of UKMFTS history but Ascent are doing OK now.
Hi Tim and Dean. Just wanted to mention that I’ve had some success in improving eyesight using Online Vision Training by Leo Angart. If you’re only 19 it may be worth you looking him up on TH-cam. I am airline pilot and if you start a career now you will have all sorts of health problems in 20yrs. If nothing else, join the military as anything for 5 yrs and enjoy yourself. Good luck
I think you gave the 19yr old bad advice. Tell him to get over it. If flying is his true passion, become a civilian pilot - there are so many branches that he can find fulfillment some where. Gliders, Jump planes, Regional or Major airlines, Crop dusters, Bush pilots, Medevac, helicopters. Here in the states, we have many civilian contract companies where you will fly essentially military missions.
People with Minor Autism can Serve in the Royal Air Force Depending on the Severity Level of Autism and On a Case by Case Basis The Medical Doctors in THE RAF WILL ASSESS You on all Levels and see what Jobs you are Suitable for and what Trades you will be professional at At the end of the day you just have you wait and see what they have to Say to you when you Apply for A ground Job like Logistics
Hi comment thread! Does ANYONE here know anything about Autistic Spectrum Disorders and the MOD? I was rejected in 2014. People just told me bluff it but I was raised not to lie (to doctors), fighting they'd liaise with my GP anyway - He was my GP for ten years. Did I make a mistake telling the truth? :/ My dreams became impossible because I was open and transparent.... I'm 23 now and I've lots of time left.
Hey Tim, another great video and I found it pretty interesting how you dissected it all and in many of your other videos. Also there's a another guy on TH-cam th-cam.com/video/BAt6y1-XijY/w-d-xo.html He's a US Air Force pilot and does very similar things to yourself on TH-cam. He also does some pretty cool things with DCS and it'd be cool if you could maybe do something with him since he also try's to help people join the service. Keep the great content coming.
I was some 7mins into this Video before the Waffle stopped and I then had an inkling what this was about and by that time I could not put up with the negativity any longer.. So what I gather this is like an 'Aunty Sob' Video for those who cannot understand 'Reality' when it smacks them in the face ... Oh Dear !! Not used to the Real World. Reality is one might well be able to gain a Private Pilot Licence to fly Dinky Toys and become quite proficient at flying joy rides. However to become a qualified Pilot in the R.A.F is a very costly exercise and the R.A.F. over a long period have developed arguable the highest standard in all Air Forces for Aircrew Competency at all levels of Flying Demands... Reality is that taking just any body because they have a "Dream" to be an R.A.F. Pilot without proving if they are Medically fit to withstand the HIGH stresses of Military Flying, then REALITY is that they have to accept the Hard Truth that the R.A.F. knows best and that Reality is that they have to lower their sights. When Reality is that a great percentage of today's youth are used to "Getting what they Want" so Reality is a Big Shock to them. I joined the R.A.F. in 1954 and it not only made a man of me but also I have always been so grateful for the extremely high quality of training I received from the R.A.F. which served me so well during my life post R.A.F.... Reality is I always knew my Realistic capabilities and my limitations but that did not stop me from always setting my sights a little bit higher.
So? I'm not even in England and I'm disappointed that I can't fly the Hawk T2, like one of the RAF anniversary paint scheme planes. I don't mean joining the RAF "officially", like your 19 year old punk I could fly circles around. I mean, I just want to fly the RAF plane and I'm disappointed that I'm not allowed. Therefore, your issue is absolutely NO DIFFERENT from mine.
this has just come up on my feed after 4 years - I don’t have much to add - I’m now in my mid 50’s & I’ve decided that I’ll not be able to be a fighter pilot - nor a commercial pilot - next life maybe. I’d recommend this particular TH-cam from a good man - Can start from 2mins on or from beginning to get into the flow of things Wish I’d seen the vid 45 years ago - I might well have been the pilot I wanted to be - not to worry. th-cam.com/video/E7RgtMGL7CA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=BrQtuAmCE8yUqtLa
I had the same thing happen to me in 1978 with the USAF: "Qualified for Commission, Not Qualified for Pilot or Navigator Training". It just about killed me at the time. But I survived-- got my commission (1983), went ICBMs, served on crew for 4.5 years, and continued on as a reservist...made Colonel in 2006...all while pursuing a great civilian career in aerospace. Along the way, I deployed to the desert in 2003-04, and got to work with the RAF during that deployment (including working for a Tornado pilot/commander who later made a very high rank in the RAF). It's hard to believe in one's early 20s...but EVERYTHING happens for a reason. The good news for the subject of the video is that "One opportunity closing, creates another opportunity you wouldn't otherwise have had or noticed..." You can still have limitless possibilities...embrace them and excel! Best of luck.
This is solid advice, many thanks - I think you need to write a book so people can hear this 👍
Exactly the same thing happened to me 25 years ago. I was desperate to get in to the RAF but was told that my eyesight wasn't good enough to be a pilot. I was told that the good news was that I was suitable for the admin/sec career path. Having said "Thank you very much Sir but no thanks" to the recruitment officer I found a very vaguely related job and haven't looked back since. What you think you want to do in life isn't necessarily what you'll find as a purpose in life.
I remember thinking, 'I've done my last course' after joining the ARV unit. Little did I know. It was only the beginning. The pressure was never off from then on
Good presentation. Dito myself. Not able to join RAF as pilot for a half dozen reasons. But was able to become a gliding instructor teaching RAF Cadets at week ends via the ATC . So still on RAF stations and mixing with pilots. As a career I ended up in the Police Force. 30 wonderful years which enabled me to see life at the raw end. But also got overseas travel to report on other countries policing. PS. Wish I was 19 again though !!!!
Hard as it is, especially when it was your dream. Be the best you can be at whatever you are able to do.
You cannot change what has occurred, and all the negative feelings whilst understable will hold you back.
You are very fortunate that you have the insight and recognition of this issue, not everyone is as honest and open as you.
You will find another passion, not better not worse, just different.
I’m sorry to pull you up on one point, time is a healer. My wife died, aged 44, over 21 years ago, and I’m now thinking of her more and more each day. I appreciate that everyone is different and have different coping mechanisms, so in my case time is not a healer. Love your videos by the way.
Sorry to hear that, Mike. You are right, some things will never heal. Thank you for the comment and I wish you all the best.
Mike...this is how I deal with loss......'Celebrate their existence......don't morn their passing'
I’ve been told by multiple members of the RAF, including fast jet/helicopter pilots and a station commander, that they are accepting pilots who have corrected their vision with laser eye surgery as long as the vision impairment wasn’t stronger than -7.5 (something like that). I understand that it is an expensive option, but according to RAF regulations, if you wait until you’re 22 to get your eyes treated, and apply 12 months after your surgery, they will allow it. I could be wrong but this is what I am doing and have been told by RAF members that it’s the best option.
Yes indeed - the point is that the person, when tested, passes the relevent test. If one breaks a leg and then recover - same deal. After repair there has to be a 12 month period of stabilisation
@@HerbertTowers I've been told multiple times by people that I can still join as a pilot even though I wear glasses is this true
I had the same thing in 1989. My best mate got in though. I then had 15 years of my mate telling me about what he was doing. Actually, we did a lot of simulation flying together in MS FS (various versions up to 98). Not getting in is bad but TBH it's 10x worse when your best mate gets to go and you don't. I came to terms with it in the end but never really got over it.
Same here. A very good mate who had no interest in flying happened to apply to the Navy for some reason after university - I think just to piss me off after I'd spent an entire childhood obsessed with flying only to be rejected by the RAF for a Flying Scholarship at 17 because they found my eyes don't fly in formation - he got in and flew helicopters. Mind you, he's now been driving an Airbus for Sleazy Jet for decades and hates it, while I eventually became a civilian aerobatic display pilot tumbling Extras, Pitts and a Giles all over the sky. So swings and roundabouts.
I'm a musician. This was actually a really helpful video for me, Thanks.
Hi Tim - this video has great significance for me - late 70s passed Biggin Hill only to then get told ‘No’ at a final precautionary medical at CME London because of a spinal issue - ejector seat might cripple me and as you say there’s no pre-screening and that was that. This hit me very hard because Biggin Hill had already passed me and final check was a ‘formality’. Lost in a world of self pity for a few years finally got myself together, did PPL and followed a career (non aviation) that took me all over the world and ended up living in Australia for last 20 years in a career that has bags of purpose and an abundance of responsibility albeit not the ‘glamorous’ role I had originally and desperately craved. So ‘D’ if you’re listening, take it from me who suffered the same fate all those years ago that with the benefit of a full life experience afterwards I totally relate to what Tim is saying and I for one now totally ‘get it’. I would not change a thing because the whole experience gave me the purpose and resilience I probably lacked before. And finally, all that I have now I probably would not have had should that path not have changed .... think “sliding doors” 😊👍
The same as happened to me lately. I have a mild peanut allergy and understandably it bars me from all services, I’ve thought about and wanted an RAF career since I was about 12, I’m 19 now. Annoying but I will move on and look at other options.
Hey Tim,
Amazing what drops into your YT feed in the wee hours on the West Coast!
Interesting channel you have here.
I’d just like to say, for the benefit of D, that I was chopped from IOT in 1985. My world, I thought, had collapsed.
And of course, that’s bollocks! (But at the time, it certainly felt pretty bad).
D’s is a well trodden path - very similar to my own. I kept pushing with my civilian training, which was hard, particularly financially - but eventually qualified... so it is doable.
...nearly 35 years later, I’m a skipper with a large airline (when we’re not on strike)! And I get to fly with some great people (with JG on this trip - and have flown with Scrabble a few times).
Your little tip to D to get into the airlines ASAP and get some seniority is a good one, and was easily missed - not that the airline world is the be all and end all, but if D is going to head in this direction, then to do it ASAP is good advice.
Advice to D, just keep pushing through. If you really want to get the thrill of hoying an aircraft around the skies, then Aeros is a good release for that sort of thing - I know it’s not the same as flying fast jets (and I’m lucky enough to have flown in the back of Hawks and other exotica in my NUAS days), but it’s not a bad substitute - and you get to do it on your terms, not when someone is ordering you to go flying!
Equally, do something else for that ‘buzz’ - track days in cars are fun, sailing high performance boats - there are lots of ways to get your kicks.
In 20 years time, D will be sat in the left seat of a big jet, with an ex-mob guy in the right, and can hoover up all the war stories he wants - and get to hear about how the rest of life in the mob wasn’t necessarily all that good. He’ll then reflect that he hasn’t done too badly after all.
It’s difficult to advise a 19 year old to keep some perspective, but purpose and focus on an end goal is what D needs right now IMO.
Keep plugging away D.
Tim, I just found you days ago. I watched this with my morning Java. What a wonderful video. I’m going to read that essay about passion now. Cheers.
Thanks, John 👍❤️
Tim, just a word to say that your stuff is timely and of great use. Really good work. I pass on your stuff to people young and old who are seeking a way forward during the whole COVID thing. I do warn them that they're going to get hit by Truth Bombs! :-) Thanks again for all your hard work.
Thanks, JB - much appreciated 👍
I’ve had the same issue. I was devastated when I was rejected from the Army Air, RAF & Navy Pilot (Rotary) Yes, I applied to all and got reject each time. I knew it was my going to be my life from a young young age. However, it was not to be. I actually had no interest in being a fast pilot, or apache. I only wanted to save & protect. Rescue & Medic flying. So I also started flying rotary and luckily for me, my instructor was Sean Reynolds, I’m sure you know him. We had some fun flying and he trained me in a lot of ways you’d never normally get trained in for private flying. So my aim now is to start my ATPL/IR & eventually join NPAS. (Mine was a slight food intolerance to dairy, which is ironic because everyone has a very slight intolerance to dairy.)
Would be cool to hear any progress in the future!
Tim, that was a fascinating talk and rang lots of bells with me. I was an RAF pilot for 32 years, although a previous generation to you (1966-1997). Probably previous to your instructors!! My question seeks amplification of the "Passion vs Purpose" argument. I always felt that it was my PURPOSE to fly aeroplanes. When that finally evaporated, I immediately left, but stayed involved as a civilian sim instructor. I ended up spending 50 years in aviation and would still be doing it now if I wasn't too damn old! I may have had Passion as a lad, I can't remember now, but what I did feel is "this is what I want to do with my life". Is that Passion, Purpose, or Monomania!?
Passion is something that burns brightly but for a short time, like a flare (think of an affair) - purpose tends to endure much longer. You truly lived through the golden age of aviation especially in the military, but we all eventually need to face another challenge, we are just those type of people. Lovely comment, thank you.
fully understand the disappointment. I was going to be a pilot from the age of 8. At 18 I passed the selection process for both the RAF and BEA/BOAC (which shows how long ago it was! 1971 to be precise) For various reasons elected to go commercial rather than military. I spent 6 months in training and got chopped - with reason; after 16 hours training I still hadn't gone solo and didn't look like I was going to. I couldn't look at a aeroplane for years. Went to college, trained as a teacher worked for four years and resigned. Applied to the RAF again and was accepted for training as a fighter controller. Spent 18 years (mostly enjoyable, frequently challenging) in the RAF and have never regretted it. Oh, and on the way I got my PPL after soloing in 5 hours! Is there a moral to this story? Two actually; #1 The end isn't the end it's just a momentary check on the journey. #2 Don't give up, there is always a way to get what you want - but it might not be the way you expected.
Good advice.Passion helps you start but purpose is better.
Same reasons i left BA cabin crew.
still love flying but as a GA pilot instead,there are downsideds to airline flying as well.Lots of bs & crew politics.
Retrained as a flight ops officer/planner and took up music again.
Totally understood, stay clear of politics and embrace creativity - my kid bro is an airline pilot and it represses his creativity.
Thinking of my cousin RAF pilot 1958-1973 hated every last minute of it. He did not join to be a pilot but sit in the back with electronics but the needs of the Air Force comes first.
Hi Tim, I'm only a road worker, but I'm learning to fly a Gyro-copter ( with the eventual aim of becoming an instructor, hopefully), so I'm probably not qualified to comment on this, but my message to "D" would be, you are already doing great things, you are further along the path than me, and you have a great future in front of you, I'm in my late 50s, so I have come to this late in life, and there are some that would say I'm too old, but, I'm determined to see it through, you have youth on your side, so don't feel downhearted, there are many options open to you, stay safe, all the best, Stephen.
Superb, get after it!
I wasn’t able to be a RN pilot due to the same reason. I love flying (was in the ATC and had a gliding scholarship). Ended up doing 3 years in the Army but still sad that I couldn’t do what I wanted.
I should probably say, I am exploring joining a Volunteer Gliding School with the Air Cadets and hopefully getting back up in the air.
@@phill2010uk How have you done with that quest? Belatedly I wish you well.
Be nice to the cadets - don't use the position as an ego-trip like many others.
I grew up planning on being aircrew of some description - love of planes and a family with RAF aircrew history. First time I went for selection as a cocky 17 year-old the interviewer tore me to shreds and put me back on the bottom rung, just as I deserved. Joined up anyway as an engineer and always planned to re-apply, but life got in the way and here I am, 20 years later, having had a great career fixing them instead of flying them. Everything from maritime, transport and SF helicopters. I do kick myself for not having gone for selection post growing up, but the past is the past. Many other career paths are available - mine involved emptying a few more aircraft toilets than I expected when I was younger...
I pushed trolleys for a supermarket and worked in a factory making women's perfume. We all gotta hussle - love your post, thanks 👍
Don't agree with your view on passion. Passion's good. It drives excellence. But proper passion. Not the nonsense in adverts and written on the sides of plumbers' vans.
I was totally consumed with planes and flying since I was a little kid. Books, Airfix kits, air band radio, air cadets, hanging around airfields, air navigation and meteorology O'level (grade A). The lot. Because I'd read everything, by the time I got on an ATC gliding course in Ventures in 1981 at the age of 16, I solo'd in 3 hours. Asked to stay on as a staff cadet and spent every weekend for the next few years helping out at the airfield, flying like a lunatic, doing stupid things, and getting drunk on Saturday nights with the other staff cadets.
When I hit 17, I applied for a Flying Scholarship. Off to Biggin Hill. Aced the aptitude tests, all good in the interviews, and then they found my eyes didn't work as a team. They did work hard to get me through by sending me to the CME in London for a second look, but the doc there said, "Nope, there's a chance you'll see two enemy aircraft in the distance when there's only one and fire one too many expensive missiles." I said I thought they had radars for that, but it didn't fly. And nor would I.
They said I could be a navigator and awarded me a Navigation Scholarship instead. I spent two weeks in the back of a Chipmunk out of RAF Abingdon telling a bloke where to go, but I much preferred tossing the thing about myself when the driver let me. And it really only served to confirm that I wasn't going to be flying for a living any time soon. A PPL was out of the question within the next few years, being at school, and there was no way the old man was going to cough up the green. So, I was adrift. No idea what to do and directed my efforts to birds, booze and partying.
While trying to work out my next move, a mate who liked fishing suggested marine biology. I was doing the right A'levels, so applied and pretended I was into it. Scraped into my first choice university, got the degree, but was bored with it by my third year and had no idea what to do next. A mate suggested advertising - there's a theme here - as he thought I liked business and did a lot of painting. So I got a job at Saatchi & Saatchi. Didn't particularly like it, but I figured that's what I've chosen, might as well be as good as possible at it.
Five years in I was making enough money to get my PPL. Three years later bought my first plane. A mint 1947 Aeronca 11AC. Got into aerobatics and two years later bought another plane. A beautifully, totally rebuilt by Hawker Restorations Extra 230 (Brian Lecomber's old bird). Won some aerobatic competitions over the next two years and packed in advertising and started my own aerobatic display business with another Extra (a 200) and a Pitts S2B. Then a Giles G202 after another 3 years. After another 12 years of ridiculous amounts of fun and incredible experiences, I got bored of it, and it became increasingly difficult to keep things going as costs rose, airfields closed, and aerobatic piston aircraft became as popular as a bad case of hemorrhoids.
I now do completely different stuff. Don't fly at all. Been there, done that, got lots of T-shirts, and my passion has been totally and utterly satisfied.
I am with you on the importance of variation. A lot of people do get stuck doing the same thing forever, even when the shine has well and truly worn off.
Keep on keeping on. You're giving a valuable service. Later.
Fantastic overview and, yes, the generation analysis is spot on, in my opinion.
Interesting, correct some people will never get there. I wanted to go FJ pilot wasn’t good enough. However I joined the Fleet Air Arm and really enjoyed it. I did go All Arms Commando though which most will never pass. I can imagine the RAF could be a bit dull though doing the same thing. At least in the RN deployments could have a different role.
Yes, totally agree. This, I think, is largely the problem with the RAF - young fighter pilots getting frustrated and bored after working so hard to get to the top. I think this is why many see them as arrogant, it's an internal frustration and why I always recommend the RN over the RAF.
Life is not a picnic. Strap in.
I always wanted to be a pilot but let’s just say my last year at school I wagged most f it. I ended up joining the army, joined the Royal Signals. After 2 years I wanted a bit more adventure even though in my days as a radio relay op we were sent out even before the special forces, to go out n get set up on top of a mountain or a gps position when in the gulf war n we actually crossed into Iraqi territory 4 weeks before the war actually started n we were in a 5 man team & I loved it. Anyway I did P Company, passed & was part of 16 air assault brigade. My new job was a JTAC (Joint Terminal Air Controller). I basically went out with the Paras & if we needed support, be it an artillery strike, call in fast air (only wanted British or US platforms) as other nations (French cough, German cough n other’s) were not very good n even to get a show of force out of them u had to beg as we sat on the ground with bullet’s pinging past our ears. So I would talk a pilot onto a target & vaporise the threat. I LOVED IT, I got my aviation fix by talking to pilots, loved watching all the different airframes in action, we even had Tornados a few times. Watching that target knowing a paveway had jus come off the rail of a jet up high n waiting for that 2000lbs shockwave, I did all the wars since 1990-2007. I agree hugely that the military does hardly anything to get u de-militarised. In job interviews I was yes sir, no sir etc. Even when I was working I got annoyed when something wasn’t done n the excuse was always “that’s not part of my job description”. In the army if. Something was needing doing it was just done. I would go nuts n before long I was always infront of HR. It took easily over 2 years to even start to act normal.
I agree with that, I work with many veterans to help them demilitarise - it's not easy.
Fast Jet Performance that’s great that you do that. I think even now I still having that army cassette inserted into my head during basic training & STILL have issues & I feel now that I have to let MY own self set standards drop & let it pass just to not cause a fuss n that shouldn’t be the case. I think many a civilian company would do well to have a load of ex squaddies as we would work as a team & just get the 🤬🤬🤬 Job done. They could probably operate with 50% less staff. I truly believe that. If you have any events on helping with this I would very much be interested. Thank you for replying & for the work you do in helping fellow brothers in arms. You’re videos & advice I find is invaluable, like the one regarding the car crash scenario. If that were a bunch of ex mil in said scenario then all of what you said would mainly just flow & everyone would find their own piece of the pic to do & mostly would be done with minimal communication. After all, the British forces ARE the best in the world & if we had the numbers & equipment we would be unbeatable. Just look at the Falklands, all Chinooks Bar the famous one that survived were lost & the ground commanders were just like “ok we walk”. Any other country would of held back n waited or done something dumb.
@@marcs990 I do coach individuals and run www.spinrecovery.com if you need help - happy to chat on a call if you need too.
after 10 years of wanting to be an airline pilot I hit reality at 18 realised I was never going to have the money to throw into being an airline pilot, I decided to become a truck driver because I love driving and at 28 i've never been happier.
Many of us move onto the roads, trains also but that is quite difficult to get into late in life. My father was a professional driver as a Police Traffic Officer, driving is in the family blood, Max.
@@FastJetPerformance I loved the video you spoke a lot of truth especially explaining to the kid that even though you lived the dream he wanted to live; that actually there are always negatives and no job is truly perfect without its downfalls and you sacrificed a lot to live the dream. I always think the 'what if' but to be honest a truck driver was my child hood dream job which changed at 8 years old to a pilot even had 10 hours of flying lessons in a cess 152. My partner's in the police she loves and hates it as you can guess haha. Look forward to the next video.
Thanks, Max - you have a great perspective.
Hi Tim, I think D sounds very well-based, his youth is working against him but agree time will heal. He has given himself tasks PPL etc. I think he has a great outlook and mature enough to realize he needs to ask for help & feedback. I think he'll do well despite the current hurt he's feeling. More power to him. Good lad. He should stay busy or even busier - maybe get some engineering or science qualifications (hands-on or academic) and continue with flying. I think the right door will open when he's ready and he'll be well set-up.
I'm a science grad with poor eyesight (no RAF for me either!) lifelong interest in aviation, first a simulator engineer, then avionics, now leading ground-based air surveillance projects for the defence of Switzerland. Also ATSEP (ground maintenance engineer) training manager for my company. Retirement age in 3 months.. Looking forward to your Hawk out of Sion, Tim.
Superb comment and great knowledge, thanks Rob 👍
Hey FJP,
I’ve applied to become a pilot in the RAF but just missed out because of CBAT, I’ve opted to switching my application to WSOP Fixed wing and am wondering what the odds are of being able to retake CBAT further down the line and transfer over to pilot. I’ve had a lot of mixed answers. Some say that it’s possible and they know people who have and others say that it doesn’t happen often. Especially because they are in need of WSOPs and not of Pilots. Just eager to hear your thoughts on the issue. Thanks,
Michael
I would redo CBATs if you really want pilot, I've never heard, personally, of WSOps doing CBATs again for pilot, not to say that can't ever happen, but I always advise to push for number one choice until no longer available.
To be a pilot you need to pass the medical tests and Officer selection many do not pass both.
Hi I'm a 17 year old in year 2 of sixth form with good enough vision and I would LOVE LOVE to become a pilot in the raf. What are the chances of me getting in are they realistic? I'm in the raf cadets and I'm very fit and healthy no medical conditions. Should I go into medical or pilot
I work with Ex Mil and Police, Il help him out if he wants. (Ex Army and Police)
I work with lots of Guys and Girls in similar positions or the transition to civvy.
I’m 15 right now, I’ve been thinking for a long time about joining Air Cadets in year 11 and taking a levels after year 11 (I start in year 11 in September) and then going to join the RAF as a pilot soon after. Should I bother trying to join the RAF or is there no point? (I am in love with the idea of flying as a fighter pilot for the RAF and have been for years)
Go for it. Remember one thing - the RAF wants guys to be Officers first and pilots second.
And remember: you're not assured a pilot job, let alone a fighter pilot job, when you join the air force.
You get the job the air force needs you to do, not the job you want to do.
Benjamin: Visit the Military Aviation section of PPrune.org where you'll find hundreds of pages of advice for guys like yourself.
In fact, I've put a link a link down below for you..
Facts not ill-informed opinions.
www.pprune.org/military-aviation/405176-officer-aircrew-candidates-please-read-thread-first.html
www.pprune.org/military-aviation/405176-officer-aircrew-candidates-please-read-thread-first.html
Benjamin, I'd reccommend you join the air cadets as soon as you can, so you can use all of the opportunities you can :)
I couldn't get into my country's Air Force. I'm fighting a very hard battle to let this life long dream go.
I love fishing llyn brenig watching you guys blitz over
love you tim proper bloke in cockpit needs to be the same i think less chance for problems CRM springs to mind
Very interesting podcast.. passion/purpose etc. would love to share with D my own experience as it would help him resolve the disappointment
I'm not convinced by the "carpmentalise it, put it behind you, move on, time is a great healer" advice. That sounds like repression to me ... useful in the short term but still unresolved and likely to come back and bite you later as time often does not heal things that are effectively compartmentalised. Perhaps this is what happened to this chap: when he found out he couldn't go RAF he didn't fully consider it - he compartmentalised - now it's starting to pull his attention and distract him from the present. Rather, I would recommend that he fully considers what not being in the RAF means to him. What he thinks he is missing out on (which may be different, as you said, to the reality). To allow himself to become irrational and emotional about it without acting out on those things. To search for the most painful place in his emotions within this experience (failure?) and head towards it. To allow the sensations in the body, to breathe with them and, with any luck, they will begin to transform. This may well reveal another emotional structure which was underpinning the initial passion. But eventually they will clear - possibly leaving the person lacking the direction they previously had in their live - a scary prospect. As you said, this can be filled with other explorations and responsibilities until satisfying, realistic, and challenging (but, perhaps, less amazing or glamourous) options emerge.
Never without a job as an airline pilot...... possibly no longer correct due to CV19
I wouldn't rule out having a successful post-military career in a lot of things. Most astronauts for example, come to it after a successful career as a pilot, so, get your name in with the ESA if you're interested. There's lots of competition but you know, you're in roughly the right age group that most astronaut pilots are in when they get to space. Musician? Not impossible. Actor? Alan Rickman was 42 when he got his break as Hans Gruber in "Die Hard". Samuel L Jackson was in his 40s when he started, and Judi Dench was in her 60s when her movie career took off. Leonardo Da Vinci was 49 when he painted his first masterpiece. What matters is vision and dedication. The only absolute no-nos are ones like this chap and his desired career as an RAF pilot. where the folks in charge have a hard rule.
thats about as honest a reply as I have seen....... boy would I have love to fly - even went to try and circumvent the RAF route (short sighted) by going through army to fly helis .... guess what? RAF then taught Army Air Corps...... some kind person suggested I join army pay corps...... nothing wrong with army pay corps - great career course - but not for me......... so I did a lot of things since.... sales management.... management - but now I am a self employed tiler and cabinet maker........... and happy (bar this lockdown tyranny)... Good man - glad you got to fly and also to see that there is no perfect career........ love your videos (I'm in the cockpit). whats not to like? best for the future my friend.
Hi Tim, have you got the link to the video or podcast for the following?
Why Fighter Pilots know that Quick Reactions are for Losers. Thanks
Here you go :)
fastjetperformance.com/podcasts/why-fighter-pilots-know-that-quick-reactions-are-for-losers/
Fast Jet Performance thanks 🙏
Really enjoyed that thanks Tim 👍
Really enjoying the videos Tim
Any insight into ascent flight training.... I've got an interview for the position as a Civilian QFI.... would be appreciated.
You'll be fine, it's all settled down now. I assume for the Grob? Have a read of the NAO Reports online just to get an idea of UKMFTS history but Ascent are doing OK now.
@@FastJetPerformance Yes on the grob. It was recommended to me after a flight with CFS elsewhere. Thanks for that I'll have a look 👍.
Hi Tim and Dean. Just wanted to mention that I’ve had some success in improving eyesight using Online Vision Training by Leo Angart. If you’re only 19 it may be worth you looking him up on TH-cam. I am airline pilot and if you start a career now you will have all sorts of health problems in 20yrs. If nothing else, join the military as anything for 5 yrs and enjoy yourself. Good luck
What is the eye sight requirements for a pilot in the RAF because I don't exactly have 20:20 vision but I also don't need glasses.
James Beckett don’t know about the RAF but last I checked the fleet air arm was 6:5 and above
@@judekelly8298 ok thanks
I think you gave the 19yr old bad advice. Tell him to get over it. If flying is his true passion, become a civilian pilot - there are so many branches that he can find fulfillment some where. Gliders, Jump planes, Regional or Major airlines, Crop dusters, Bush pilots, Medevac, helicopters. Here in the states, we have many civilian contract companies where you will fly essentially military missions.
I said move on from the military, not aviation.
Excellent content my friend and some great advice 👍🤙
People with Minor Autism can Serve in the Royal Air Force Depending on the Severity Level of Autism and On a Case by Case Basis The Medical Doctors in THE RAF WILL ASSESS You on all Levels and see what Jobs you are Suitable for and what Trades you will be professional at
At the end of the day you just have you wait and see what they have to Say to you when you Apply for A ground Job like Logistics
not surprising as many of them aren't even diagnosed until decades after leaving the service.
CaptainDuckman that’s something I’ve heard a few times about
I'll vouch for that. I was in the RAF and had the pleasure of working with at least 2 complete psycopaths so mild autism would be no problem at all!
Joaquin Guzman exactly I’m considering a career in Logistics in the Royal Air Force
Please ask him to come on the show please
Schmitt Circles
Hi comment thread! Does ANYONE here know anything about Autistic Spectrum Disorders and the MOD? I was rejected in 2014. People just told me bluff it but I was raised not to lie (to doctors), fighting they'd liaise with my GP anyway - He was my GP for ten years.
Did I make a mistake telling the truth? :/ My dreams became impossible because I was open and transparent.... I'm 23 now and I've lots of time left.
Great video.
Tim doesnt like helicopters :)
Hey Tim, another great video and I found it pretty interesting how you dissected it all and in many of your other videos.
Also there's a another guy on TH-cam
th-cam.com/video/BAt6y1-XijY/w-d-xo.html
He's a US Air Force pilot and does very similar things to yourself on TH-cam. He also does some pretty cool things with DCS and it'd be cool if you could maybe do something with him since he also try's to help people join the service.
Keep the great content coming.
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I was some 7mins into this Video before the Waffle stopped and I then had an inkling what this was about and by that time I could not put up with the negativity any longer..
So what I gather this is like an 'Aunty Sob' Video for those who cannot understand 'Reality' when it smacks them in the face ... Oh Dear !! Not used to the Real World.
Reality is one might well be able to gain a Private Pilot Licence to fly Dinky Toys and become quite proficient at flying joy rides. However to become a qualified Pilot in the R.A.F is a very costly exercise and the R.A.F. over a long period have developed arguable the highest standard in all Air Forces for Aircrew Competency at all levels of Flying Demands... Reality is that taking just any body because they have a "Dream" to be an R.A.F. Pilot without proving if they are Medically fit to withstand the HIGH stresses of Military Flying, then REALITY is that they have to accept the Hard Truth that the R.A.F. knows best and that Reality is that they have to lower their sights. When Reality is that a great percentage of today's youth are used to "Getting what they Want" so Reality is a Big Shock to them.
I joined the R.A.F. in 1954 and it not only made a man of me but also I have always been so grateful for the extremely high quality of training I received from the R.A.F. which served me so well during my life post R.A.F.... Reality is I always knew my Realistic capabilities and my limitations but that did not stop me from always setting my sights a little bit higher.
So? I'm not even in England and I'm disappointed that I can't fly the Hawk T2, like one of the RAF anniversary paint scheme planes. I don't mean joining the RAF "officially", like your 19 year old punk I could fly circles around. I mean, I just want to fly the RAF plane and I'm disappointed that I'm not allowed. Therefore, your issue is absolutely NO DIFFERENT from mine.
Stratoleft I don’t even want to ask what this mess of a paragraph is suppose to be.
this has just come up on my feed after 4 years - I don’t have much to add - I’m now in my mid 50’s & I’ve decided that I’ll not be able to be a fighter pilot - nor a commercial pilot - next life maybe.
I’d recommend this particular TH-cam from a good man -
Can start from 2mins on or from beginning to get into the flow of things
Wish I’d seen the vid 45 years ago - I might well have been the pilot I wanted to be - not to worry.
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