Sweet Baby EXTORTING Black Myth Wukong? - I Dont Think So
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- Black Myth: Wukong (an upcoming Action RPG game from Game Science) has become the subject of controversy after a Weibo influencer posted a claim about Sweet Baby Incorporated... leading to an amplification on twitter, and now an army of claims about 7 million dollars of extortion, media hit-pieces and IGN bias.
Today I wanted to give my take on what seems to be a clearly fake story, built on a game of telephone where claims take on a life of their own without a shred of actual evidence.
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it's too much random events to say it was not planned.
1) Iitial article from IGN on the game was mainly a smear piece agenst the devs.
2) SBI seeing the smear piece shows up to offer "consultation" advice and gets turned down.
3) IGN then makes another smear piece.
4) devs come out and admit SBI was trying to extort them.
they must have some plan in place where the smear piece is the trigger to have SBI and there clones come in and start bothing devs for consultation work and if they get turned down they uiise social media as a way to send a encoded message to journos that they were turned down and to write another smear piece or if they accept the consultation work journos go quiet.. until the devs start showing screen shots of there game that SBI has infected.... it just looks too damn obvious they have something planned out that doesn't require them to contact each other directly...
i knew it you are controlled opposition
Honest reporting is one the major reasons I love your videos. Always pushing for the truth.
no matter what you have to say on this company, and others that do the same things, i will always boycott these companies because i don't like forced DEI subversion, AKA propaganda in my media.
If the SBI did not extort Game Science, they should throw the evidences to the public and sue the person who made this rumor on twitter. However, did SBI/IGN do anything like that? NO, not at all.
The problem starts on the part where Kim Belair herself admitted that Sweet Baby works based on blackmail and extortion.
She herself made the story perfectly believable.
She did and some of you are so gullible it's hilarious
It doesn't help SBIs reputation. But I guess it shouldn't make it worse.
Then again, SBI's reputation is so bad, it can't possibly be defamed any further because they absolutely do extort and blackmail, just not this instance. Which really isn't saying much.
Don't forget that ALL the journos that defend Sweet Baby came out to trash this game. Coincidence?
game journo's did not check anything either, they just went on the attack defending SBI.
@@thelordakira I mean "check something" when the source is one twitter user making shit up lmao.
It's just a bad hill to die on when there is 0 proof and it's obviously made up.
I mean, I don't really care who the source of that claim is...
because I had already seen the clip with them saying "yeah, terrify them with the possibility of what's gonna happen if they don't give you what you want".
That's a threat in my book. That's already extortion.
Yeah, it is pretty obvious what Kim Belair meant in regards to that comment, as well as their business practices.
man in this last 2 videos he really lost all my trust
@@colorpg152what the hell are you talking about. The head of sbi is on film telling you exactly what they're doing.
Maybe, but... It's already hard to deserve losing the benefit of the doubt, and they definitely managed it with that quote. But still, to actually act upon a claim that something like this happened, you need evidence. Just because they definitely would do that, does not mean they did, and more importantly, we can't know details. Not that it really matters that much when it comes to a company like this, but the attitude most people now have, while not being quite as bad, is way to similar to the political extremist, practically religious way of thinking that triggered it in the first place.
@@colorpg152 You haven't watched the videos then I take it? He's doing the same thing he always does, doesn't just push a narrative. If that's what you're looking for, might I suggest watching someone like Hassan Piker or Noah Samson?
Well, as a Chinese descent that can read Chinese myself, I can confirm that whatever accusations that IGN made against black myth wukong's dev for being sexist were slender as almost every translation were inaccurate. And if you ask who to believe, I won't fully trust either sides but definitely won't trust IGN for being dishonest in their writing.
IGN has NOT been relevant for years but since they 'got in' early - they have some name power that still draws breath. I ignore them at every turn as the shills they are.
Chinese descent here as well. I also did a bit of digging on the Chinese Weibo after seeing this video. I found the original 兲虎 post, but other than that brief mentioning about $7 mil there's no other source info anywhere, no reference, no citation, nothing.
@@dougdu Well to be fair, I'm just a gamer trying to run away from reality while playing games. What I peceived as a good game does not deserved to be tarnished just because some social activist writers trying to push their agenda. Give us a break.
Tbh, the jokes that the dev made was pretty bad, something that probably never should've been published on social media. Though claiming they are sexist is an exaggeration.
@@gloomysunday1203 That wasn't a joke at all and not even vulgar. That's the way we use words in Chinese, the translated "being licked until I couldn't erect..." was completely translated wrongly, in fact I think was done in purpose to smear the dev. The word 舔 (lick) was taken from the word 舔狗 (simp). The dev meant he wish the be buzzed by jobseekers till he couldn't function. Chinese is my native languague, I'm sure it was translated wrongly, either in purpose or mistakenly.
"if they say no... terrify them"
Hmm... I wonder if there's a word for that...
Yeah it’s called “tender sweet talk “~~
@@Tombbistolthat's 3 words
@@Siilk70 mmmmmmmmmmanipulation hmmm? there's got to be a better word.... I simply can't put my finger on it...
Allow me to be extreme in my wording and call it 'terrorism'. :V
@@JCDentonCZ I think “Terrorism” is their point… don’t use violence just words. WAIT! DON’T THESE PEOPLE CRY WHEN WORDS HURT THEM? THEY SAY WORDS ARE VIOLENCE… by their own logic, this is 100% Terrorism
Sweet Baby Inc clones have infected IGN.
SBI is just one of the companies doing this. there was a list a couple of months ago.
It's been that way for a loooong time.
To be fair, Sweet Baby Inc isn't damaging much since IGN already damaged themselves for a few decades
Idk why you guys all think sbi the Illuminati controlling all these companies, but the truth is that they have been like this before sbi even existed
You mean Ubisoft workers?
What about the blatant mistranslation thing, was that bots? Cuz that's in the libel neighborhood.
Exactly and considering SBI hasn't taken action, I believe the story is true.
Don't forget multiple coordinated hit pieces in multiple publications over the last year
It's just a mistranslation. Social media is a kind of media, so someone saying "this post from chinese media" isn't wrong. However, people assume "media" means "journalists", so it was interpreted as a legitimate news source. Which, to be clear, no-one should assume even if it is coming from a journalist. There's plenty of BS coming from 'official' news sources too.
@@johnblaze8092 if they did sue they would say "they are hiding the truth" and get in more trouble. That's the problem with cancel culture.
@@SirRichard94 Well, people like them created cancel culture. They made their bed, they can sleep in it.
When it comes to Sweet baby Inc, here's the thing we already have laws on the books where they should absolutely be able to be prosecuted for the behaviors that they do. Trying to extort companies and violating civil rights laws.
We have to get back to the point where our laws are actually enforced and where these companies cannot continue to have this behavior or they get fined into Oblivion to the point where they can't exist. Because the reality is they should not exist.
It is illegal but you have to actually report it with evidence to the Sûreté du Québec.
Yea but given that SBI is part of the Canadian government, I'm pretty sure all of that can be brushed under the rug sicne they have diplomatic immunity.
@@Saint_Wolf_ They aren't part of the Canadian government, and if they where their extortion would be for UPAC to investigate but they aren't and people need to stop mixing up government grants for being government owned.
Oblivion mentioned? Let's gooooo
@@ZontarDow It's all the same, companies with goverment money exist to get money from the goverment, welcome to the mafia, sonny and specially the goverment mafia, all here works to extort money out of people.
that is the true meaning of "question everything". It has to include even things you'd like to be true
Yeah it's sad how many people even on my side can't stick to their morals. As much as I totally think this is something SBI could do and probably has done to some companies there is literally 0 actual proof in this instance that it has happened with this game/developer. To say anything other than that they are it is all alleged and the source is dubious at best is journalistically irresponsible just the way we claim the other side is.
Some people are way too lost in the sauce.
Yes as much as we want Snickers & whiskey to be a healthy balanced diet, reality & truth can only be denied at your own peril.
@@InDeathWeLove This is why I take the middle road here of having pivoted to say the issue is that there wasn't really much reason to think SBI didn't try this. Sure, they didn't do it this time. But why should anyone believe SBI when the CEO got on the literal podium and said they do extortion?
With this, I can raise my left hand, put the right on the Bible and 100% say SBI has not been proven to be involved and do so under oath without breaking it. I will then bring up that infamous interview, I will bring up several SBI employees writing a lot of verbal checks, and I will bring up games publications laying a log cabin on top of it all and still say there's a massive problem. It's still a problem, even if it's not the initial problem we thought it was. I think that's completely fair here.
There is Truth...
...and there is perception.
The perception is that the devs rejected SBI...
...this means - to make a point - Wukong HAS to become successful!
Especially things you'd like to be true
All consultant companies are worthless.Let artists make games and let their art either live or die on its own. Plus if any consultant firm is coming out of Canada?I've just assumed it's dog shit
There is literally no reason to hire a consultant company as a game developer. Either you are making your game for an intended audience or you are trying to spread a mesage.
Consulting is not bad in itself. Like for example when your game is about a certain culture where you're not from so you consult someone from that culture to make your story as accurate as possible and not piss off the people of that culture. In the end, it's the developers decision to take the consultant's advice or not. But Sweet baby Inc is just straight up trash and it does not represent any culture, it just fills your games with woke propaganda that most people don't want anything to do with
@@medo_0x00SBI, we don't trust you.
8:17 I’m sorry, UE, but I just do not buy that IGN “just so happened” to write a hitpiece on GameScience at the same time GameScience told them to go away. Why would IGN even be looking at GS’s hiring page randomly anyway?
The “source” is sketchy, sure. But the timing AND Kim Belair admitting that coercion is how they do business isn’t something you can ignore. Nor do I think it’s a “coincidence”.
Edit: Alright, the “Chinese media” and wishlist things were dishonest. The rest of this though? We still have no proof this didn’t happen
Idk why you're saying it's "too unlikely to be coincidence".
SBI has tons of haters for a good reason, thus there is a huge magnifying glass on any negative news about them.
Some random twitter shitposter makes up random allegations, because SBI is very hated.
Like do you not see how one thing could lead to another? If something has tons of haters and twitter is a cesspool of trolls/shitposters/mentally ill people, then they would make up some random accusations with 0 proof or jump into conclusions?
How many times have you seen random twitter posters make up accusations on people who have a small amount of haters? It is VERY common. Random Rape accusations with 0 proof etc.
It's just a bad hill to die on to jump into conclusions and refuse reason just because one piece of narrative is made up.
Like if one random twitter poster can make things up and have tons of people believe it and then say "we don't have proof that it DIDNT HAPPEN", that's just bad media literacy.
It'd be like if I said that SBI is full of actual murderers with0 actual proof and then people jumped on it, because I posted some obsecure "proof". Media literacy these days is just so bad and online spaces are filled with echo chambers and mentally online people.
All of those articles are old. Do we really believe they were retribution? It's the kind of crap IGN always writes about and stretches to find.
Careful now, if you're at the point of saying "We still have no proof this *didn't* happen" and taking that as soft or even hard confirmation that something did happen, you're operating on witch hunt logic. The burden of proof lies with those raising the claim, not the accused.
One way in which this could be a coincidence is that someone at IGN wanted to try digging up any kind of dirt they could find on the people making a game that was shown in the spotlight at Summer Game Fest and was received positively. Meanwhile for the same reason, some influencer over in China wanted to drum up a rumour surrounding the game and tie it to a public enemy just for a laugh, or because they also hate Sweet Baby, or maybe they also genuinely believe something like this happened.
No proof of any of that, just speculations based on the evidence presented, but that's the nasty thing about following your logic: We're beyond the point of that being necessary.
You can have an idea of what the truth is, but don't confuse it for being actual truth.
How naive UE think that Sweet Baby don't have any communication or connection with game journalist from IGN and Kotaku. The hit pece from IGN come out in nov 2023 and now (2024) they edited mistranslation mistakes as reason.
That's not how this works. The burden of proof lies on the one making the accusation to prove it DID happen, not the other way around.
I think the issue is, like you said, SBI make this easy to believe so it's understandable that people would just assume it to be true. SBI do engage in extortion.
The slew of hit pieces on Game Science coming from journos is the cherry on the cake.
What you end up with is people engaging in basic pattern recognition but not doing the necessary research, and therefore not having the correct information, and coming to the wrong conclusion.
Yeah, what people claim is basic pattern recognition can easily be based off not knowing the full story and all the details. At least sometimes; I'm not familiar with the story here and how good the evidence is.
@@KnakuanaRka "Don't believe thy lying eyes"
For the time being I'll believe the pattern. If the heuristic system works, why fix it?
These game uranlist all come out about the hard r on stellar blade they work with each other
So if it happens enough to make a pattern im wrong for assuming otherwise? 🤔
It's all too believable that they would do something like this. No wonder the narrative took off
That is because they actually do do that. I think it was the CEO pretty much saying that the best way to get your way in terms of inserting your narration is threaten them what will happen if they don't listen to you.
People believe anything they’re told these days with no proof, so that’s not saying much.
The CEO said to use fear to get what you want, that is literally extortion. Add onto the fact that all the outlets like IGN and kotaku shill for SBI and cover their ass constantly, it makes sense they'd be running a racketeering scam together.
@@dstmt2 What dont you understand, The Co-Founder of Sweet Baby Inc Kim Belair literally said and i quote :
“Create moments that are intentionally targeted and designed to create joy in the marginalized.
They are going to appreciate this on a level that your core audience won’t, but it doesn’t mean you’re going to exclude your core audience.”
“And instead of asking them, ‘Hey, is this very racist thing we did very racist or is this deeply offensive thing we did deeply offensive?
Are you hurt by it?’
Ask them what they want to see.
Like, ask them what would thrill them, what would bring them joy.
And if you have a team lead, put that request to them very, very early. If you’re a creative working in AAA, which I did for many, many years, put this stuff up to your higher-ups.
And if they don’t see the value in what you’re asking for when you ask for consultants, when you ask for research, go have a coffee with your marketing team and just terrify them with the possibility of what’s going to happen if they don’t give you what you want.”
It is all the direct quotes.
edit : I dont believe they extorted anyone. But is is believable they would try.
@@WwZa7 It also doesn't help that Khee Hoon Chan wrote a hit piece on Game Science back in November 2023. He's written similar articles on Hogwarts Legacy about Rowling and Death Stranding around Hideo Kojima.
Personally, i consider the fundamental premise of the Sensitivity Reader industry - basically SBI's entire business model, as far as im aware - to be implicitly extortionate. As such, the phrases "SBI offered to consult" and "SBI attempted to extort" read about the same to me.
So in this case its less a matter of 'Does SBI Extort Companies', but 'Did SBI Actually Extort THIS Company'
I don't really care if they did or not. What I can say is I don't like SBI.
but SBI has connections to the person, who wrote the IGN article..
...
and SBI nor the devs have denied this happening (SBI approached them..)
It's often a bad idea to engage with baseless claims like that, especially if you're a corporation. There's little to no benefit, and a lot of bad press to garner from doing so.
What makes matters worse is that the IGN writer didn't even bother to fact check. Chan ended up taking comments by a user (deemo琦') and attributing it to Yang Qi/Game Science.
@@ohnosmoarlulcatz So like everyone who believed tjis story here? Lol
speculation will always make you look like an ass
How naive is Upper Echellon to think that a cosultancy group like SBI (supported by Canadian government) has no any connection with game journalist like Kotaku or IGN.
However the situation may be, Black Myth: Wukong is DEI-free and that's the ultimate good news here. The rest can get fcked.
What's wrong with DEI?
@@deohere7647 That's self evident two anyone with grey matter
@@deohere7647 Look further into modern gaming and the brainwashed cultists who promote it.
@@deohere7647 Everything. It's an excuse for talentless egomaniacs who have not achieved a single feat in their lives nor can live and let live to try to subvert and destroy everything good and enjoyable for others. Evil can't create, it only can subvert and destroy.
@@deohere7647It's pro equity, anti-meritocratic, and anti "yte".
Be sure to add 'sbi detected' to your steam curator list everyone.
It is 4th top curator on Steam now
"Responsibility and truth are consistent principles regardless of who the subject is"
Very well put and I wish more people would remember that that's the case.
Is it worth losing the culture war? Seeing all our beloved games and movies/shows get butchered just to keep up some arbitrary sense of morality?
There is no honor in defeat, only death.
And this is why we are losing the culture war, because we always gotta "do the right thing" while they cheat and lie their way to success. It's time to take the gloves off and play to win.
@@NamelessONEMail If you become the problem you didn't win.
@@NamelessONEMailyou then become exactly the opposition you despise. They lie for the cause as well. You have become SBI.
I don’t really care if it’s false or not. SBI needs to disappear regardless.
Based
For the fact that they refused Sweet Baby Inc alone, they have already sold me on this game.
Thats literally the point the video addresses. There is no proof or even claim by anyone involved that any of this happened. You are "already sold" on nothing but hot air. There is no actual proof of anyone involved with the game's developer or publisher ever saying SBI ever contacted them let alone claiming they denied them. It's literally one nobody on weibo going: "This totally happened. I have no sources I can link to, but trust me bro!"
On one hand, SBI does make this stuff easy to believe. On the other hand, truth is paramount - there's no substitute for honesty. Just because SBI has done this kind of shit to other developers and is a blight on the industry in general, doesn't mean they're necessarily guilty of it here. Glad to see someone's working back through the chaff to question the veracity of this. Nobody should be slandered or punished for something they didn't do.
I disagree. You’re a wimp. Time to use their tactics. If youre to sissy to do that move aside
If the SBI did not extort Game Science, they should throw the evidences to the public and sue the person who made this rumor on twitter. However, did SBI/IGN do anything like that? NO, not at all.
@@stevezhou1983
What evidence could they present to show that they didn't do this?
@@stevezhou1983 Firstly, I hate SBI too, but how exactly would they prove they didn't extort GS? You can't prove a negative. That's why "innocent until proven guilty" is so important. Also, any lawsuit against the twitter user would be very unlikely to succeed as all he did was repeat what some Chinese guy said. They'd have to go after the originator of the rumor to have any real chance at winning a lawsuit, but that person is a Chinese citizen so. . . Good luck with that.
@@stevezhou1983 I hate to play devil's advocate in this situation, but just because a case wasn't taken to court doesn't mean a case can't be made. There's a number of reasons SBI might have to not pursue a legal case.
For just one example, consider the fact that they'd have to go after the Weibo poster, since that was the origin of the information. That would mean a United States corporation bringing a lawsuit against a Chinese citizen, which raises the question of whether they even *can* bring up a case. As of this writing, China (and by extension its citizens) enjoys near-complete Sovereign Immunity against lawsuits from the United States. Bills to curtail that were introduced in 2020, but have not progressed past introduction in Congress.
If it's not possible to sue the Weibo poster under United States law, that means SBI would have to have a Chinese Citizen as an employee, have legal status within China (only possible through a partner corporation), be allowed to even operate in China (who would be opposed to SBI's mission statement on principle), and then manage to bring a case against the Weibo poster under *Chinese* law... which is its own can of worms in and of itself.
Now, admittedly, I'm not a lawyer or anything, so I could be wrong on one or more of these points, but it should serve to illustrate just how complicated this situation is. You can't just boil it down to "no lawsuit, no falsehood."
There'll be plenty of time for the torches-and-pitchforks if and when SBI screws up and reveals they did influence IGN to write that hit piece against Games Science and Black Myth Wukong. In the meantime, direct your hate towards IGN - perhaps if enough fires get started under their ass, they'll throw SBI to the wolves to save themselves, if indeed SBI was involved. Another thing to do is to keep an eye out for other hit pieces to come out of the blue targeted at Games Science and Black Myth Wukong. If and when it happens, track the writers back through the web of connections, and see if SBI is the common factor between them. *That* would be evidence pointing towards SBI having an agenda against Games Science.
I would love to see SBI crucified - especially in court - as the extortionists they are, but I want it to be done on a basis of irrefutable fact, that way there can be no question whatsoever that they're scum. Right now, we don't have that for this situation; we have hearsay, allegations, and suspicious coincidences, nothing more.
Man. This is why due diligence is important. Sure, SBI has had a hand in some questionable (for lack of a better word) guidance, but it's especially important to get facts straight.
You call tanking massive franchises "questionable guidance"? We truly are lost.
@@Billy-bc8pkthat's literally what it is.
@@worldspam5682 It's not questionable guidance, it's purposeful malfeasance.
@@Billy-bc8pk which is the same thing, but in other words
@@worldspam5682 Questionable guidance presumes mistaken intentions. Purposeful malfeasance indicates that they are doing it with a specific goal in mind with the outcome being what it is. Two completely different things.
It's like someone saying "Yeah, take that backroad down the street, I think it's safe". Even though the backroad has a missing street lamp and is not entirely safe. That's questionable guidance.
Someone saying, "Yes, that backroad is 100% safe and you are guaranteed to come out safe on the other side. Trust me." even though they know full well that there is nothing safe about the backroad. That is purposeful malfeasance.
This felt fishy from the get go, but it is easy to believe due to SBI's track record.
The only thing that is odd about the whole thing with SBI is that they would have an incentive to release something saying that it wasn't true. I know that is a very speculative take, and I'm not claiming to know 100%, but in any regard it's odd that no press release between Game Science or SBI to correct the information.
There are quite a few theories on why SBI wouldn't make a statement, and in the age of the internet it may be smart to wait out controversy till the next controversy deflects our attention... But SBI doesn't seem smart enough to do that between their employees having free rain to put their foot in their own mouths.
Either way we don't have a clear answer, and no one saying anything to confirm or deny the accusation is a whole separate story that we may never get an answer too.
Having seen my fair share of dramas online... I'd actually confirm the worst thing you can do in this situation is call attention to it, and that would include a denial or apology. You want the thing to die down, and given this is a company, I can buy that someone in the legal department is running the social media ATM. I don't like SBI, but if I may speak entirely pragmatically if I was in their shoes, they are in a zero-win position and the sooner they can leave the match on this the better for them.
SBI probably did do something like this, that’s the sad thing about it.
They literally admitted this is the EXACT way they operate in a panel, where they told people to approach companies and warn them of the negative consequences if they were to decline their consulting. The reason people believe the story is that SBI *LITERALLY* admitted that this is how they operate.
They couldn't as UE said. Gay in games is illegal in China! Which is just as bad as DEI IMHO.
@@edwinblake When will people figure out why LGBT is being pushed by the elite and fortune 500. You really think it's because they care about them? 🤣🤣
It's interesting to note that none has denied this has happened.
Damn, you totally corrected my view.
...I have always thought Ouroboros was a Norse symbol.
Jormungandr and Ourobouros have very similar iconography (big ass snake, one wraps around Earth, other wraps around and eats tail). So, very easy to conflate
And I thought it was Greek! Now I see the Greeks got it from the Egyptians.
Well, Sweet Baby Inc didn't deny the claim, so if they didn't do it, shouldn't they come out and say it?
Given that SBI has admitted to doing this exact kind of thing, it's no surprise that this story took off the way it did. Having said that, it's always best to make sure we have all the facts.
It's hard to feel sorry for the worst actor in the room - even if/when they are wrongfully accused - they did that to themselves. Plus the webpage looks like a nursery puked all over the site..
It's not blackmail guys it's just "surprise fees" which is still absurd for a consulting company.
I think this whole thing says more about game journalism than anything else. How some game journalists can make articles with dubious sources and how other game journalists are willing to do hit pieces because of personal feelings or agendas.
I don’t really care as long as they’re being dogpiled. They have done nothing to justify caring about their plight and have deeply impacted many franchises.
"So... Pics, or it didn't happen" moment? 😂
Yeah. Although in this case its almost a case of "I saw the sun rise, and it was beautiful"
"Pics, or it didnt happen!"
@elLooto any evidence then? Beyond that clip about talking to marketing dpt.
@@SirRichard94 You mean other than SBI telling you how they behave?
The claim is "SBI did what they say they do."
Sans contrary information, prima facie, the claim is reasonable.
Love when you said something about the channel being about truth, that was cute. Can’t wait till you sell out eventually, unless you don’t wanna ever grow bigger.
A fair take to have, even if the parties accused of being the aggressor certainly fit the profile with almost malicious glee.
like u said, people want to believe, ppl want SPI to be terminated so any win even if it's not confirmed to be real is a win for the people, and I am one of those people I want this to be real cuz SBI should cease to exist today before tomorrow
Yeah, even if the extortion not real, I’m still glad that gamescience reject companies like SBI
Believing anything from a random twitter shitposter/mentally ill person is just bad media literacy though.
Wanting insane stories to be real and believing them instantly is very dangerous, doesnt matter what side you're on.
Just because it enforces your opinions shouldnt make you automatically believe it. That's arguably way worse and just leads to echo chambers.
There are already some crazy nutjobs that think its some jewish DEI plot to overthrow western culture etc., if you keep believing everything someone says and not questioning any of it.
SBI is useless company though, but some people are making some insane conspiracy theories.
I also am lacking in any love for SBI, but at the same time I think it is bad to go fishing for "wins" like this just to put a nail in their coffin. I have seen people justify some pretty deplorable things with this same sort of desire behind it (such as stating someone should purposefully allow themselves to be accused of a crime they did not commit because it would strengthen their cause).
I think I would be a hypocrite to actions I detest even if I endorsed them for a company I do not like and personally do not want to stand behind those actions. I respect Upper Echelon for upholding his journalistic integrity like this even if it 'defends' a company he does not like.
There is Truth...
...and there is perception.
The perception is that the devs rejected SBI...
...this means - to make a point - Wukong HAS to become successful!
Did you went over those mis translations by IGN?
Yeah, i actually agree with you. As dislikeable as companies like Sweet Baby Inc are, people shouldn't start inventing stories to make them look bad. One, it's simply unnecessary, they can do a great job digging themselves in, and two it puts you down to their level.
All Sweet Baby has to do is denie it, and they could own Gamer Gate, they didn't, that makes it very likely this is true, and was leaked, because NDAs won't let anyone speak publicly about it.
Hi robber it true you robbed a guy? No okay then good bye . You think they would admit to a crime?
You've got a point...
@@616mm5 it opens them up to being prosecuted further, but it's not like they haven't lied before.
You really think that the people who instantly took the story as gospel would REALLY accept SBI saying they didn't do it? What logic or reasoning are you working with?
What NDA?
If the devs didn't work with SBI then there is no NDA
They could say SBI contacted us but we weren't interested
Question everything, trust but verify, especially those that you agree with in principle or that makes you feel vindicated, as they are the most likely to lead you astray.
And when you look att the quat from the GDC talk you relist that she talks about securing desv to not include oviesly rasist or sexist content that a White man might mis
WRONG, never trust anyone or anything, verify first, and even then amusing youre only getting one side, because everyone Lies.
I watched the talk to verify it and that the framing who's disingenuous
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@@CasGRos your spelling is so terrible thast I don't know if "oviesly" means "obviously" "overtly" or "overly" MOST LIKELY obviously, but you managed to screw it up so bad I'm not sure
There’s just one problem with this take.
In all the days since the accusation came out sbi hasn’t denied it.
But they didn't admit it either did they? And would you believe them if they denied it?
@@Angrenost02 they didn’t admit it because that would be admitting it.
So…
@@lamplight9871 My friend, that isn't an actual proof, that's just how it is. You're arguing that the fact they didn't admit it is proof they did it and that they can't admit it because that would be proof they did it.
That's an irrefutable argument. The actual situation is that we haven't any definitive proof they did it. As UE demonstrated in this very video, the elements we have are very flimsy.
@@Angrenost02 well I’m adding in their past behavior and the fact that they actually haven’t denied the accusation.
I’m also having issues with the idea that a company that size in a time when their reputation is so heavily under attack didn’t send their pr team out on the defense to refute such a serious accusation.
I’m saying it doesn’t make them look any less guilty.
But that’s just my point.
@@lamplight9871 So as I said, no actual proof. Their past behaviour certainly doesn't play in their favor, but looking guilty and being guilty are too different things.
My point is that there is enough things they actually did to point and call out. Giving credit to flimsy accusations will only weaken legitimate criticism of what they actually do.
To be clear: I like what you said - (full stop). Stick to the truth. My dad gave me some great advice, that sadly I ignored in my younger years: "If you want to be right then figure out the truth and agree with that." Awesome advice and clearly wise advice. In my business ethics coursework SBI is on the list of horrible business practices. BUt let's condemn them for what they do or fail to do - not a fabrication.
Nobody cares about the source, cause no matter what the source is, it is an indisputable fact that SBI and other DEI companies are destroying the gaming industry. so at least for me personally, anyone who defends SBI or tries to confuse the public so that SBI has chance to breathe is my enemy! my position is very clear, i am a game player.
Which is exactly what this TH-camr is doing here…
@@tjw2469 There are always people trying to look fair for various self-gratifying purposes, but there's no middle ground in this matter, you're either supporting the gamers, or you're an accomplice to the idiots who are trying to destroy the gaming industry.
While I am no fan of SBI or tactics employed by them, I have to say I thoroughly appreciate the someone speaking to the evidence at hand, even it may seem contrary to my biases, opinions, or persuasions. Thank you.
Wukong, according to the lore from "Journey to the West", is technically of non-binary gender because he's born from a stone and capable of "the 72 transformations", which enables him to be a woman today, a men tomorrow, and an elder the day after, both of which are often key criterias used for deciding whether one is of traditional binary gender.
Beyond gender is his ethnicity as well. Him being born from a stone technically makes a silicon based lifeform, which absolutely makes him one of the minority groups. Other than this, he's also a vegan, a religious believer in buddhism; given the fact that he calls every female character he sees from the original lore "Buddha" and practically NEVER had any sexual-related thought on them, he actually has a huge amount of respect for female, which makes him a firm supporter in feminism.
(This list can go on way longer and we can even find proofs of him being an environmentalist and an advocate of animal protection, but I will stop here for now)
So if we judge from this perspective, Wukong actually has ALL the values Sweet Baby claims to be strong supporter of, and therefore, by protesting against Black Myth Wukong due its core values, they are in fact going AGAINST everything they claim to stand for, literally throwing punches into their own face.
Well spotted!
Mythical being in china mythology can choose gender when they turn into human form the first time ( except animal being , their gender is their animal form gender)
They can change appearance by magic but that doesn’t change their true gender
I mean fair, you are right about transformations. But he also is a fairytale character. So he isn't "non-binary". Fairy tales are usually very binary. He can be a man or a woman, but it would be expected that he follows his gender roles if it makes sense to you. I think SBI and all the DEI agencies are trained to see this kind of conservative things. Even if they are kind of mild and insignificant.
@@andremorr You maybe right, but when you bring this kind of argument to SBI and DEI people, it's at least probably good enough to enrage them enough to make more cringe comments that can be teased/mocked by the gamers community. XD
The bad thing about incidents like this is once the truth is out, this strategy becomes dulled. The next accusation will be received with suspicion and the accused will be given the benefit of the doubt.
When dealing with the enemy, you shouldn’t play your hand if you can’t deliver a decisive strike.
Generally speaking the accused SHOULD be given the benefit of the doubt
@@thanatosdriver1938 At the same time, nothing saying we can't have conservation of detail when it comes to actually lobbing accusations. I don't know about you, but I'll be pivoting to pointing out how SBI helped dump a bunch of gasoline around even if they didn't actually light the match. That speech she gave basically gave all the paranoid people all the reason to be paranoid.
Sadly, 'tis why we say, "Trust, but verify."
While on the subject of SBI; If you haven't done so already, might I suggest looking into BRIDGE? tldr, it's effectively the, for a lack of better terms, headmasters of anything DEI, Vanguard, Blackrock, and the like.
yeah, nobody did a good investigation on that yet. might be interesting.
@@Alexander_Sannikov I know one of the guests on the Side Scrollers channel streams went deep into that on one of their streams I believe last month, some vtuber woman
@@Alexander_Sannikov Kirsche is pretty much the only one that covers it a fair bit but it's buried under hours of streams so having it condensed in a single video would be nice.
UpperEchelon Is a sweet Baby INC LOVER He wants there Babies "WE The People Have Spoken"
Is it true? Maybe not, we don't have a timeline where we know for sure when this happened, it was clearly not recent as the game is a month away from releasing.
But the smoking gun is there, no videogame mainstream media outlet will talk about the game without saying the developers are evil and the lead developer is segg(sist) because of comments and what not.
We might not have the body, but we have the smoking gun and the fingerprints.
And even if it's false as Canada has no reason to send its race commissars to China, I'm all for developers to false flag this company to tarnish them further and make a buck in the process. "We've talked with our marketing team and have come to the conclusion to bad mouth SBI to gain positive attention and publicity".
I think you VASTLY overestimate the amount of people who care about any of this. If you were to market a game as anti-SBI or whatever t's only going to get positive attention and publicity in your tiny bubble of people who care about this. Most people don't care, haven't heard of SBI and aren't going to take the time to learn about any of it and telling them in marketing material that you didn't work with this company you say is bad that they've never even heard of isn't going to do a damn thing to convince them to buy your game or not.
@@StreakyBaconMan You'd be surprised how many people have started to notice something somewhere is going terribly wrong. I think most people do care. I also think you might be a DEI aligned demoralizer. Your language and choice of words seem very similar. Making their opponents feel isolated and alone and is part of the Marxist playbook.
@@StreakyBaconMan "Most people don't know and don't care about SBI, nor do I know nor care about SBI as I talk about SBI"
Well, the main resource of people for learning about videogames IS TH-cam and Twitch, and whoa the people talking about this? TH-camrs and Twitch Personalities. And as this Black Myth Wukong scandal takes places, not before the game jumps to the most wishlisted and pre-ordered game on Steam. So much for a tiny bubble of nobodies. Let me remind you, nobody cared about Stellar Blade and it was April's best selling game for Playstation. What happened with the Wizard game? You remember that?
The people who don't care also probably don't care to the point of not even playing videogames at all or just playing the basic Call of Duty and Forza. But the people who care about videogames, they're subscribed to someone for videogame news and TH-cam is constantly growing as disenfranchised people move away from mainstream comformism they will find things like these content creators.
If it happened in the summer/early fall of 2023, it would've made sense as the article came out in November 2023.
@@Satyr42 See and this is why I can't take any of you people seriously anymore. I don't think this is an issue that many people know about or take seriously therefore I must be some type of paid propagandist spreading disinformation on purpose. I mean grow the hell up. That's childish nonsense. I'm not into politics, and I don't even know what the hell a Marxist is nor do I care to learn - so I certainly have not taken a page out of whatever playbook they may have.
You have this 100% right. SBI is a pox on the gaming industry, but as someone who works with and hires consultants, they usually tell you what they think you want to hear. They can't make you change your projects. SBI is bad, but the biggest problem is people who decide to hire them in the first place.
you only countered the Chinese Influencer (who has 300k+ followers), saying he didn't cite sources.., so its all BS?
That which can be posited without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. So, yeah.
It's all about the sources! That doesn't mean the influencer is lying, but we can't verify it. If we start claiming stuff without having sources, we're not better than all the gaming websites and DEI consultant companies. We can fight them, without needing to go on their lowest level.
@@morgan3392 That kind of mindset is why we will never fully understand the horrors of the holodomor, the soviet camps and rape chains, and the full impact of knuhm penn. That which can be hidden or swept under the rug no longer exists, so naturally neither does the evidence.
@viice_ I couldn't agree more. You can't complain about how the 'other side' makes baseless statements and claims, then go and make your own baseless claims. That's hypocrisy and, IMHO, one of the main reasons we're in our current predicament.
@@viice_ Ppl don't cate these days
Just put out the narrative and get views, if it turns out wrong ppl be like "Oh well still a trash company"
And the Wukong devs told SBI to get the hell out.
Nah, Kim Blair Shlair Clair Sweet Baby of Bell Air called like "Hi, I'm Kim Blair Shlair Clair Sweet Baby of Bell Air and I'm here to consult" and the game director was like Lovecraft when he lost his cat.
If you saw the entire vid, you'd know that the Chinese government requires that their games not include or glorify many of the things said company likes to force in. Lending credence to them not actually extorting Wukong's production because they literally wouldn't get away with it given the state oversight.
But they absolutely would've had things been different.
@@MoreEvilThanYahweh You think the clowns of SBI know anything about Chinese laws regulating culture?
Well, that's good to know. I still expect this to turn out to be true in some way, but always good to know about fake news.
You know what would be hilarious? If this was actually some Chinese plot to kill SBI and simultaneously push the sales of a Chinese made game. The game looks good so if it is good it'll sell on its on merit, but if they're pushing this to try and kill SBI because of how hard core they are against that stuff and it works I will probably die laughing. I'd have zero sympathy for them. They've ruined a bunch of games with this woke nonsense so as far as I'm concerned nothing of value would be lost. It's like coming home to a house fire but all that was burned up was the trash. You wouldn't give a single, solitary, fuck about it.
agreed, an outstanding move from their side if thats actually the case. Leave any game out of woke nonsense BS agenda's for fucks sake
When I heard it was from a random weibu user. My first thought was that game science requested or commission this user to make this post, as the game is currently in a marketing push. But also at the same time, I saw that it could be true as well, if not this time with this company, it's true somewhere
I completely agree with your take on this too, as much as I wanted to believe it. One thing you didn't mention is that the hit piece dates don't even align to be retribution.
Good work man. To be honest, the story smelled a bit to me from the get go.
Still, the game remains in my radar solely on the basis that I'm confident its DEI free. Few things are better publicity than being hated by IGN. If it turns out to be as good as it looks, I'll be buying.
This is why I trust you above all other sources in gaming media. You call it like it is, not how you wish it to be.
12 minutes of "pics or it didn't happen".
Honestly with Chinese media I have taken to assume everything they say is the opposite. For example they claim nothing happened in 1989 in Tiamen Square. I assume there was a big protest which was brutally put down by the government that sparked international condemnation and embargoes from multiple western nations.
Very well presented argument. My counter would be how you glossed over how IGN ran with a terribly negative narrative that has now been picked up by many other 'professional outlets' in the space using IGN as the source, but as you state yourself in this video, IGN clearly used the translations the most malicious way possible. While I agree the influencer in China may not have credibility, based on how the US media has been handling themselves, I'd argue the random dude in China, by default, has more credibility... But point taken, and I genuinely appreciate the effort you put into this video and your research.
Good to see you here smash! Also might I add SBI has said nothing about this... I believe we can agree this is too big to just ignore as "Gamer talk" especially when they were on video saying they do it routinely. burden of proof falls on them.
The take away from the whole situation is that it's believable that a company which operates in the manner of SBI would do that and so no great surprise that everyone ran with it. That and the absolute polarisation going on. Personally, I'm thoroughly against these types of companies because the things they touch get visually uglier, the story goes off of a cliff, and usually full of identarian based race/gender swapping. The end result is a bad game.
That being said, it's important that people be honest and fair. We need to persuade the normies of what is going on to win this and the only way to do that is with honesty - even when one is tempted not to be or to ignore facts. As UpperEchelon says, there is something a little fishy. For a start... $7 million? That seems high - even for a DEI company.
Great work. This is something I had heard going around and thought "Hmm, checks out. Seems weird targeting a Chinese studio, but I've seen weirder" and kinda moved on. Thanks for shining a light on the truth
I feel the same way UE seems to: Whether I want them to be guilty of this or not I still believe they're innocent until proven guilty.
Even if this turns out to be fake I'd still be surprised if it turns out that no DEI company's ever done/tried to do something similar, but this is an especially interesting case considering the earlier articles.
My take is both sides are bad and there is one of them who is lying. We might never learn the truth.
Thanks for this. Easy to get caught in an echo chamber. Your videos are constantly informative and factually compelling 👍
Love that your "investigative journalism" part of you still shines through with well researched facts rather than be driven by mindless propaganda. Thank you.
I care 1000% more about the truth than having my bias confirmed. Thanks for the true journalism.
To be fair most channels did say to take the story with a grain of salt.
I appreciate the honest reporting. Many content creators have run with this story but almost none have brought up its credibility.
This is legitimate journalism. This is necessary. SBI is tearing themselves apart. Allow them to do so on their own accord. Let's not snoop to the level of the enemy forces, for what ever that may be.
I, for one, appreciate the honesty. It doesn't really change anything about SBI; but it's important to be honest with how we call them out, lest we become them ourselves.
The thing is, Why does it matter if SBI really did it or not? They might not've done it to Black Myth, but this is the thing they are doing regularly.
This fact doesn't change whether this time is true or not.
there's a huge difference between something that could happen and something that did happen.
Did you really ask why does it matter? Lol
Because it DECIEVES consumers into making a purchase or not. That is why it matters.
@@Alexander_Sannikov They have literally on record said that they have done this. They had a panel where they discussed the exact practice of telling people if they don't accept their consulting it would risk "bad PR" and they better accept. She "jokingly" said "just threaten them with the consequences", but it's not a joke. It's literally what they are doing.
Plenty of actual cases of it happening to use as examples. If you prop up false claims, all it’ll do is make people think this stuff isn’t happening.
Props for setting the record straight. SBI is trash but truth is paramount.
So glad that you’re approaching this topic rationally. This discourse feels so stupid. Once more I’m validated being a long time subscriber. Thank you for your work!
3:52 this is still terrifying terrifying to me in a way, the fact they can get away.. with a presentation like *this.*
it's absurd.
Principled take, good job.
Also while we are on the subject, the 7 Million figure thats thrown around a lot is also misleading, the original post said something like "大几百万美金“ which translates to high 7 figures as in more than 5 million but less than 10, not exactly 7 million. Nowhere is the number 7 million explicitly mentioned in the Chinese post.
I also heard from another analysis that the original Chinese poster didn't say it was "Sweet Baby Inc." specifically. The real translation was more "Sweet Baby-like," as in a consultancy company in the same business as SBI. So definitely a game of Chinese telephone, each step morphing the meaning of the original message. Even I was scratching my head wondering what they were thinking trying to weasel into a Chinese story being told by Chinese people.
Thanks for doing the actual legwork (fingerwork?) and being honest about what you found. You got yourself a subscriber!
My first thought at the beginning of this video was the Chinese government wouldn't allow the themes SIB want anyway, this doesn't make sense.
I would also assume the CCP would lie. To quote a great movie, “They lie to everyone. They lie to the fish.”
Sweet Baby Inc. has just been the tip of the iceberg of problems in some games but they are far from the determining factor if the game has flaws. They are consultors not investors, they don't dictate a budget of the games, they don't decide which type of monteization a game will have, they don't project any plans of sustainabily and growth to appease investores, and they are not responsable for impossible deadlines. Do journalist think they have real power because of extorsion for games not being on the billboard or are the multibillion dollar companies see them as a way to have some extra cash saved on their pockets just for not paying experienced people that the industry already has. Remember Jason Schieier had to save some information of what was happening on Acti Blizz until the Microsoft buyout and with Bobby Kothic out the picture, you know the guy that was proactively covering all the bad things happeing inside. And some serious stuff was leaked, like the death of a coworked impulsed by employees inside, without him saying a word, imagine what would have happened if he didn't shutted his mouth.
exactly ,the problem also lay on game consumer in the west, it seems it's consumer has greater tolerance to accept their local cultural get distorted and developer get extortion.
If the SBI did not extort Game Science, they should throw the evidences to the public and sue the person who made this rumor on twitter. However, did SBI/IGN do anything like that? NO, not at all.
It is kind of not their responsibility to provide the evidence for nothing happened but they can certainly at least deny it. I think they get off of being hated
a great talk about how effective propaganda is. Any rumor can become a trend as long as intent to be true is enough to cause a vocal emotional reaction
6:14 You know it is bad for Sweet Baby Inc. when they are being slandered by twisted telephone game between Weibo posts to Twitter/X tweets
SBI have made this believable themselves. The thing that made me initially believe that the story was true was that I've heard nothing about SBI denying this claim. If they have, could someone inform me? I just find it so weird for such a claim to be made and yet it's not denied.
They admitted in a panel that they threaten and extort companies with "bad consequences" if they don't accept their consulting. It doesn't matter if THIS case is true, because they admitted they have done it in the past and that it is how they operate.
As much as I disagree with sweet baby inc, EVERYONE still deserves honesty and integrity. This story that is blowing up has no actual sources and may have even just been planted for controversy to continue to oppose sweet baby. In general I think encouraging "diversity" in video games is good, but we can't "inject" diversity into stories either. If you want a story that matches your authenticity or culture, go buy games in that realm. If you don't like it, thats fine, you probably don't understand its message unless its genuinely bad. Regardless, I do hope sweet baby can just collapse. They have made too much money essentially extorting the entire industry in fear of being cancelled.
Same Diversity is good for the industry & diversity of choice is important for consumers & artists.
SBI does not encourage or promote any of that & are if anything a detriment to that cause, which I don't believe they even care about.
Only if they show you the same level of respect.
SBI are far from honest or show any integrity.
The story is irrelevant when the goal is their collapse anyway
Injecting diversity is the problem. Full stop. It’s not a good thing ever. A story dictates the characters needed. YOU are part of the problem.
I'd rather that my world view come from contextualizing the truth, rather than that I pursue and insist upon a narrative that allows me to never modify my world-view. That's all the harder, and all the more important, as an increasing number of erstwhile news sources seem happy to chase a narrative. Thank you for doing due diligence.
Some parties will fight back against dishonest dirty tactics, with dishonest dirty tactics of their own.
The bots are out of control lol
i swear every comment i see is insane...my farts are betterr than your farts ahh shit
And they lack the common courtesy of using scantily clad ladies in swimwear in their icons!!
Extortion of this nature is a higher crime in Quebec then most places due to the anti-gang laws that where passed in the 90s, if there is any evidence of such things happening I keep telling people to send that information to the police because they take it very seriously. Police report or it did not happen.
You forget that SBI is financed by the Jeremy Trudeau goverment so they basically have diplomatic immunity.
As Argentina rises out of being a Banana republic, Canada takes our place.
@@Saint_Wolf_ It depends. If you have definitive proof of extortion for this Montreal based company, then it could definitely get them dropped from protection. If it's one thing that politicians hate, it is the bad look of guilt-by-association.
Drop the funding and prosecute.
Won't stop the 50 other companies that have been set up with gov funding, but hey... take a win where we can, and getting the word out there will do so much more to financially cripple this whole thing.
@@Saint_Wolf_what is the prefe fore that
Did thy get a grant or something, that I sent "finast by the government"
@@kaisokusekkendou1498 Yea but Canada is completely taken by international leftism, and they won't let a poor widdle wlack whamen of colour go to jail now will they? For a silly billy extortion of 7 silly millies?
@@Saint_Wolf_ Federal grants don't protect you from the provincial police. You know nothing about Quebec if you think those grants give them any protection.
I thought the extortion story sounded too perfect and wondered if it was propaganda to aid the company, but being based on a social media post is pretty sad.
I was like, 'what press release?' when this news first started circulating. No sources in sight besides 'some person in China'. Thanks for being the voice of reason.
Nobody ever said it was a press release. It was always presented as a rumor, but what isn’t a rumor is IGN going after this for months and the tautological source is always their own loaded mistranslations.
I have no horse in the race, but the silence from the side of SDI is kinda sus to me, even if nothing of this happen, why wouldnt SBI come forth with their records to clear their name, whatever that is worth? The silence from them is enforcing the idea that it's plausible, further killing their reputation
They literally on a panel admitted that they try to threaten and extort companies into accepting their consulting. If you don't accept our consulting you will be on the wrong side of history and the media will paint you as the enemy.
Oh god, there's so many bot comments here.
Bots have been rising across the net for a good while, and more accessible as a service. Slap "AI" ontop of all that, and when that service gets applied to it and we're probably going to be looking at a legit "dead internet" scenario where they outnumber and fake so much activity it might as well be barren in functionality and only browsed by said bots.
@@user-ws1bs4ns7h We can say/allude to various "gamer words" to identify each other and the corpo's can't allow their bots to be caught doing so.
#fixtf2
@@Eric-uy7ee Based and true.
Honestly this level of apparent objectivity is why I subbed to UE in the first place. Kudos and thanks.
Finally, proper journalism. Fact checking, source verification, and no bias. You should start a game journalism company. At the very least you would be one of, if not the ONLY competent and informational game journalist out there. I’m sure that you and everyone agrees that SBI should cease to exist, but laying out the facts and preventing misinformation from spreading is to be commended, and respected. Awesome video once again, keep up the phenomenal work. Anyone that doesn’t understand the facts that you presented and instead choose to use their emotions as facts should never be in any sort of media. Cheers man
Translation: critical thinking is practically non-existent especially when peoples biases and emotions are heavily involved leading to the belief of unverified information spreading chaotically on the internet.....
I refuse to give Tencent even one cent.
Fair. SBI are annoying. Tencent is _scary._
Good luck finding a game where they aren't involved.
@@Abbasi-mu4pg I've got a list of every game they are involved with and I don't own a single one. Except for two games that use unreal engine that I bought years ago. It would be hard if you play nothing but cod or fortnight though.
@Boss-Possum good for you 👍
@@Abbasi-mu4pg look I know it sounds dumb but 10 years ago I made the decision to not buy from China as much as I can. I'll tell you what though, not buying from China is impossible. But you can certainly cut it right down. Even my PC parts were mostly made in the US, Europe, Vietnam and Korea. If I can buy from my home country Australia I will. All my yard work gear is Australian made, same with my furniture. Doesn't break either which is always a bonus.
It is absolutely crazy to me how many comments on this TH-cam video clearly did not watch any of the video or even read the title all the way.
Especially since the video made it very clear that CCP policy makes the SBI grift impossible.
Always appreciate your thoughtful, "let cooler heads prevail" approach.
At least we can all agree that both SBI and IGN are terrible.
I am Chinese and I have been following the story. I can confirm the accuracy of your summary of the story and I agree that this is just a rumor, although I am not sure if there actually is any truth in it.
哪的?
OK Say something in Chinese to prove that you are truly Chinese, understand Chinese, and can comprehend the Chinese side of this story.
just because something sounds like it could happen, does not mean it did happen. question everything, especially things that sound appealing to believe.
The timing of the IGN smear campaign not long after the news broke out seem very sus
When legend becomes fact....print the legend
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance.