Foggers are the way to go - short burst and move your ass quick - never spray and stand there, that is just a real bad ideal. It should be used no different then when being in a gun fight, learn to shoot while moving. This way you make yourself a much harder target to hit an din the case of pepper spray - for the downwind to catch you. ETC
yeah I agree but streams are sometimes more ideal than foggers because of back winds. You don't want it ending it up in ur face and not on ur attacker.
After actually using in a dog on dog attack situation, I prefer fogger type as it is very easy to miss the face when used in an emergency and the fogger can still have an effect. There is blowback, myself and another got hit pretty good. But it did save the day. No dogs or people were injured. Windy days you have to use stream..
I once had to use a pepper streamer, I had a good 10 feet between me and the guy, he saw it coming and closed his eyes and charged me. I now carry a fogger, short burst at close range and move spray move spray move. The guy that charged me did get a hold of me but I hammer fisted the pepper can on his skull, busting the can, we went to the ground and I was able to get control of him, after clawing and grabbing his face with my pepper spray covered hands. I was sitting on top of him, both of us coughing our lungs up when the cops finally got there.
Idk why everything is Stream nowadays, maybe it's so common because nobody is buying it and the Foggers are selling out. Imagine rushing to defend yourself and you hit their neck or chest instead?
@@billcarson4187 What I learned recently was that it aims slightly upwards to compensate for the reflexive arm angle to hit their eyes or forehead, which droops down. I still prefer foggers because I'm an outdoor guy but for $10 at Target you can't complain.
I normally use different variety of O.C on different occasions. Like the fogger is something I use for clearing rooms, and the stream is something I use on ppl.
Might sound a bit extreme but I bought Fox stream and fogger and also bought Sabre gel Crossfire I'm going to keep the stream in my jacket pocket because it has a lid over the column so you have to flip it up before you spray someone I will use the fogger if I'm coming up against the group of people and I will use a stream if it's just a one individual however I have a Sabre brand Crossfire that I won't use unless it's really windy my suggestion is to have a few different kinds
The best pepper spray on the market right now is Fox Labs 1.4 %. In the red label. That said, the 2 types of delivery are for 2 types of applications. The stream is more for law enforcement, and individuals who have training and experience in fighting, and other high stress encounters where the maintenance of fine motor skills would be necessary to effectively administer the stream product. The cone type delivery would be more of a "shotgun effect", putting the product effectively in the direction of an attacker. The 2 downsides of the cone delivery are distance, you have to be closer to the attacker and the good chance that you will get some of the pepper spray as well, as demonstrated in your video, when the wind blew it back on you, and I could hear your coughing. The stream is more Controlled, and can be used at a greater distance. Another problem with the type you had is the activation button. I've had that same button come off safety and spray in my pocket. Not good. The best button type is the flip top type. Don't forget if you are going to carry pepper spray to remember to shake it up well, before you leave the house, to keep it mixed well. I am a retired 26 year Correctional Officer with the state of Texas, and carried the 4 ounce can, the last 20 years of my career, as well as being trained on the effects and delivery systems of our other chemical agents. Hope this helps in your decision making process in choosing the proper less than lethal defense options for yourself.
Actually the stream is intended for outdoors and/or further distance while fog is intended for indoor areas with less chance of blowback as well as a shorter distance. 20 years in law enforcement
I think the fogger is better because the water droplets are more fine, meaning that it will get into the eyes and lungs much easier. The stream/gels are thicker, so it may take longer for it to take into effect, it won't get into the eye lungs as fast. Just my opinion. One last thing, I think the fogger last longer as well. You get more use out of it. If you are afraid to spray yourself, just spray and move real quick. Spray and run or something like that. Who cares if you get sprayed a little bit, not a big deal. Just run and get the hell out of there.
Stream spray pattern OC spray is just as effective for self defense as fog spray pattern OC spray if you know how to use the stream spray pattern OC spray properly
Yeah... Foggers are the way to go but less popular than Stream. Hpowever, there are good 2oz fog options: Fox Labs Cone and UDAP Jogger Fogger. Maybe Sabre Red has some 2oz fog options too.
It would have been far better to do a few short burst and the illustrate the full blast... In a real world to be conscience of back spray, when you are outdoors ETC or around other people in an environment - short burst is the standard of good practice. By doing long burst, the risk of self spray are higher and in hitting innocent folk in the wind ETC and risking legal action.
Want to know the difference between tear gas and pepper spray.lady has a old felony dui she no longer associates herself with booze however the streets are rough and was approached by guy with knife and mask, also caught guy syphoning gas, he got away.... someone said its illegal for her to have tear gas legally....even soberly.. these felons can have deadly knife legally but not pepper spray? This world has to make sense....a felon could be someone non violent and could get a felony accidently they used to give felonys for marijuana back in the day....
Foggers are the way to go - short burst and move your ass quick - never spray and stand there, that is just a real bad ideal. It should be used no different then when being in a gun fight, learn to shoot while moving. This way you make yourself a much harder target to hit an din the case of pepper spray - for the downwind to catch you. ETC
yeah I agree but streams are sometimes more ideal than foggers because of back winds. You don't want it ending it up in ur face and not on ur attacker.
After actually using in a dog on dog attack situation, I prefer fogger type as it is very easy to miss the face when used in an emergency and the fogger can still have an effect. There is blowback, myself and another got hit pretty good. But it did save the day. No dogs or people were injured. Windy days you have to use stream..
What. About shotgun orifice?
I once had to use a pepper streamer, I had a good 10 feet between me and the guy, he saw it coming and closed his eyes and charged me. I now carry a fogger, short burst at close range and move spray move spray move.
The guy that charged me did get a hold of me but I hammer fisted the pepper can on his skull, busting the can, we went to the ground and I was able to get control of him, after clawing and grabbing his face with my pepper spray covered hands. I was sitting on top of him, both of us coughing our lungs up when the cops finally got there.
That's a hell of a story ngl. Glad you made it
Nice. Which brand?
Idk why everything is Stream nowadays, maybe it's so common because nobody is buying it and the Foggers are selling out. Imagine rushing to defend yourself and you hit their neck or chest instead?
Sadly I think it's because Stream is more popular... but I'm with you, Foggers all the way !
@@billcarson4187 What I learned recently was that it aims slightly upwards to compensate for the reflexive arm angle to hit their eyes or forehead, which droops down. I still prefer foggers because I'm an outdoor guy but for $10 at Target you can't complain.
I normally use different variety of O.C on different occasions. Like the fogger is something I use for clearing rooms, and the stream is something I use on ppl.
Might sound a bit extreme but I bought Fox stream and fogger and also bought Sabre gel Crossfire I'm going to keep the stream in my jacket pocket because it has a lid over the column so you have to flip it up before you spray someone I will use the fogger if I'm coming up against the group of people and I will use a stream if it's just a one individual however I have a Sabre brand Crossfire that I won't use unless it's really windy my suggestion is to have a few different kinds
Did you guys test the shotgun and ballistic ? Im thinking shotgun orifice would be best but no idea
If used correctly the fogger makes a great spray I own one there very good to have in my opinion
I prefer the fogger pepper spray
You guys are very good, hello from Idaho!
I'd like to see the heatwave foam.
frogger is for offender in group and stream is for offender number less than about 2or 3
The best pepper spray on the market right now is Fox Labs 1.4 %. In the red label. That said, the 2 types of delivery are for 2 types of applications. The stream is more for law enforcement, and individuals who have training and experience in fighting, and other high stress encounters where the maintenance of fine motor skills would be necessary to effectively administer the stream product. The cone type delivery would be more of a "shotgun effect", putting the product effectively in the direction of an attacker. The 2 downsides of the cone delivery are distance, you have to be closer to the attacker and the good chance that you will get some of the pepper spray as well, as demonstrated in your video, when the wind blew it back on you, and I could hear your coughing. The stream is more Controlled, and can be used at a greater distance. Another problem with the type you had is the activation button. I've had that same button come off safety and spray in my pocket. Not good. The best button type is the flip top type. Don't forget if you are going to carry pepper spray to remember to shake it up well, before you leave the house, to keep it mixed well. I am a retired 26 year Correctional Officer with the state of Texas, and carried the 4 ounce can, the last 20 years of my career, as well as being trained on the effects and delivery systems of our other chemical agents. Hope this helps in your decision making process in choosing the proper less than lethal defense options for yourself.
Good info,thanks
Actually the stream is intended for outdoors and/or further distance while fog is intended for indoor areas with less chance of blowback as well as a shorter distance.
20 years in law enforcement
Thank you for all this information
I think the fogger is better because the water droplets are more fine, meaning that it will get into the eyes and lungs much easier. The stream/gels are thicker, so it may take longer for it to take into effect, it won't get into the eye lungs as fast. Just my opinion.
One last thing, I think the fogger last longer as well. You get more use out of it. If you are afraid to spray yourself, just spray and move real quick. Spray and run or something like that. Who cares if you get sprayed a little bit, not a big deal. Just run and get the hell out of there.
Stream spray pattern OC spray is just as effective for self defense as fog spray pattern OC spray if you know how to use the stream spray pattern OC spray properly
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I can't find any 2 oz. cone shaped sprays anymore. They are all stream shooters. You have to be to accurate with stream.
Yeah... Foggers are the way to go but less popular than Stream. Hpowever, there are good 2oz fog options: Fox Labs Cone and UDAP Jogger Fogger. Maybe Sabre Red has some 2oz fog options too.
Her smile🥰😊
Great video, thank you.
Very good video, thank you!.
Great video☺️
If you have asthma or lung disease, the use of oc can put you in the hospital if any gets in your mouth, nose or lungs
I have the Sabre one and I never used thanks God.
She looked pissed after the fogger lol
How is it vs Pom?
If the advertising is to be believed, about on par
Haha i like how she looks without any emotion at some times
Probably wanting to leave this fucking geek
I would love to take her away from him
She bad
@@ItsdaFittySimp you’re so thirsty.
@@ItsdaFittySimp You're desperate. Surely, you're not her type, and the guy in the clip is her dad you fkinnnn idiottt.
It would have been far better to do a few short burst and the illustrate the full blast... In a real world to be conscience of back spray, when you are outdoors ETC or around other people in an environment - short burst is the standard of good practice. By doing long burst, the risk of self spray are higher and in hitting innocent folk in the wind ETC and risking legal action.
thanks
"TRY NOT TO GET IT IN MY MOUTH THIS TIME"-Wahman
That’s what she said lol 😂
Cool
Try it on your selfs 😆
Most agencies do that as part of training, it's a valid plan.
Which spray do you guys recommend?
@Christian Constitutionalist I ended up getting mugger fogger which I believe was stronger after crunching the numbers.
@Christian Constitutionalist What style do you recommend? Top cone? Stream?
I will take the stream.
Want to know the difference between tear gas and pepper spray.lady has a old felony dui she no longer associates herself with booze however the streets are rough and was approached by guy with knife and mask, also caught guy syphoning gas, he got away.... someone said its illegal for her to have tear gas legally....even soberly.. these felons can have deadly knife legally but not pepper spray? This world has to make sense....a felon could be someone non violent and could get a felony accidently they used to give felonys for marijuana back in the day....
The most beautiful women on TH-cam, are always discovered by accident. ❤️
Better watch the direction of the wind? Or else Yiul be in big trouble
Cone By far.
She is very pretty and is going to need a 1 pound fogger to ward off the bears that want to pounce that beautiful temple.
4 ounce? That's like 120ml?
I'm sure y'all mean well but you shouldn't test any kind of fogger in normal public areas.
Fox is hotter
Only if you get fox labs one point four, but heatwave afaik is hotter than that
Damn... she got some bedroom eyes!
What is bedroom eyes?
@@sonyvalencia sexy... seductive.. alluring.. captivating.. etc
Dafuk
Wtf
@Christian Constitutionalist it's a compliment buddy relax... if that is his wife then he did good...
She's beautiful
this girl is hot