UFR #36 - Discussing "Should the Best Player Always Win?" with Zesty & Jauntyweb

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    Featured guests: ‪@ZestyJesus‬ ‪@Jauntyweb‬
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  • @Jauntyweb
    @Jauntyweb 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

    Glad I got to feature on this week's episode. hopefully I can be invited back in future!

  • @pez.emikazoo
    @pez.emikazoo 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    Lucid, we deserve the *Alan's Frivolous Extravaganza Special* episode of UFR, four hours of uninterrupted, high octane Alan action

    • @violet35-
      @violet35- 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      We agree

    • @torchy9030
      @torchy9030 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      and it's gonna be like these 10 hour videos of silence randomly interrupted with lucid saying "but what does alan think about it?"

  • @ColonelKlink1965
    @ColonelKlink1965 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    I really feel Zesty's quietness in this episode. Don't worry Zesty, I don't know a damn about fighting games either.

  • @N00BSYBORG
    @N00BSYBORG 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    As a grappler player, allow me to weigh in on the grappler discussion at 2:32:32. There's a lot more to the grappler archetype than they simply grab a lot or have a good throw game. Lots of characters in SF6 have a strong throw game thanks to throw loops, but you wouldn't call them a grappler because you can tech the throw.
    A grappler's gameplan revolves around what's called command grabs. Special grabs that you can't tech and usually do an assload of damage on their own. When Zangief or Potemkin command grab you, you get got. If someone like Jigglypuff grabs you, you can break the throw, DI or tech roll to avoid eating a chunk of damage. You're still entitled to your opinion. You can play a grappler playstyle on non-grappler characters, but command grabs are the defining characteristic of the archetype.

  • @acme7882
    @acme7882 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    No zoomer buzzwords, no skibidi sigma edits, video sucks 0/10

  • @manhoovy193
    @manhoovy193 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    holy fuck, they did it! They released the VOD

  • @grandwizardautismo
    @grandwizardautismo 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Action Comics #1 was also parodied by the TF2 comics

  • @doctordice2doctordice210
    @doctordice2doctordice210 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Lucid if you’re reading this please check the video titled “the death of video game critique” I think it would inspire a lot of discourse

    • @tamaskasz986
      @tamaskasz986 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sounds fun, I second this

    • @doctordice2doctordice210
      @doctordice2doctordice210 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@tamaskasz986 it’s a video that inspired a lot of violently conflicting feelings and thoughts in me lmao

  • @doctordice2doctordice210
    @doctordice2doctordice210 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    2:15:39 I never understood this argument because someone please explain to me what is FUN about fighting a rush down?
    1- you spend most of match fending them off, which is an exhausting because their entire kit is built to get into your face
    2-once they do get in, they have a lot of tools baked into their design that makes handling their pressure extremely hard, annoying and exhausting on the opponent side as they get to mash while you get to make 50/50s every other millisecond
    3-they get to have 70% of a grappler’s grap’s damage with good oki and the previously mentioned qualities, which often means that they can cycle that high damage into 50 second long sequences that genuinely evaporate most of your health
    Like where’s the fun here? Please tell me?

  • @bananashoplifter3440
    @bananashoplifter3440 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    "Do you think someone not having arms is a skill issue?" -Lucid 2024
    _also since GG was mentioned, reminder that the nun boy is a boy_

    • @ColonelKlink1965
      @ColonelKlink1965 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Bait used to be believable.

    • @bananashoplifter3440
      @bananashoplifter3440 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ColonelKlink1965 Masterbait (•‿•)

  • @takeoutfromchina3166
    @takeoutfromchina3166 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    After playing Tug-o-War I honestly can't agree that it's an awful gamemode for TF2. I only had two issues with the mode: the distance of the spawn room from the cart's final resting place and the matchmaking system making the game uneven/ those short-point timers. You could add the map's theming and presentation to the list, but I remember seeing Zesty play a ToW map similar to Lumberyard or Sawmill on his server once. It can be done with enough care and I'd like to see the mapper attempt one more try, maybe host a testing server before launch (but that's better said than done with the TF2 Workshop creators). Lucid's argument about The Objective's storytelling is understandable with this map but feels like a nothing burger when you could easily make it about supply crates or top-secret material the Mercs need to run off with. But all of this means nothing when the map runs like crap for most people.
    Also, seeing GBVH Stella is uncanny to me, I know Ko-Op used 3D models, but come on man.

    • @Jauntyweb
      @Jauntyweb 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I am a GVH stella enjoyer, we like bigger women

  • @ACEM1A1
    @ACEM1A1 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Lucid should start a PMC

    • @violet35-
      @violet35- 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He already runs a coffee shop so a PMC wouldn't be hard. Basically the same thing

  • @TwitchyGains
    @TwitchyGains 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    push is worse than tug o war, atleast in tug o war I don't have to wait for a robot to run across the map before I make any progress towards the objective

  • @Bluestlark
    @Bluestlark 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just recently tried out tug of war, actually very fun, it's kind of like a mini-5cp except it's a cart, it's literally back and forth in a koth sized map, I did run into a bug where I fell from the cart and it killed me, because the cart kills (though this only happened once), but as far as the objective goes, having both teams trying to avoid the cart to explode on their side is very fun, it can get stale-matey if one team does not have a proper medic as defending your point is very easy. and even if it had no skybox on the buildings, because it had fire, most people avoided to the roofs anyways it brings no real advantage to set yourself in fire.
    It is very fast paced but because the map is so short heavies didn't struggle getting to the cart and there is enough flanks for pyros/scouts/soldiers to rejoice.
    Dunno if you were shittalking for the sake of it or not, but as far as TF2 objective based missions and fragging yourself away balance, I think it's in that sweet spot.
    And I mean it would make sense for both teams to have found a kart and try to control it and send it back to each other, it's like a tf2 verion of that cartoon gag of sending the dinamite back and forth. Like a last minute "oh shit we gotta do something about it" so it doesn't feel "oh red team isn't defending blasphemy!" because well payload race kinda does that already and it's not that different from koth or 5cp.
    If anything it's kinda like what Haarp did mixing CTF and A/D, a very interesting and at least for me, fun experiment.

  • @objectionablycurious
    @objectionablycurious 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    While I do agree individual players should not carry in team-based multiplayer games,
    I hate when I am making space for my team and/or winning nearly every engagement (in addition to keeping our medics/other support classes alive) and we still lose because I cannot 1v12.

  • @violet35-
    @violet35- 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    31:46 he would what??

  • @2345Z
    @2345Z 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Since Zesty still in the nerf sniper camp, how about we have a UFR on Gabber's Sniper TF2 video

    • @torchy9030
      @torchy9030 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Zesty is the only one not in nerf sniper camp. He wants it removed

  • @epictom3423
    @epictom3423 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Epic

  • @shrgn
    @shrgn 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    rip ufs

  • @2345Z
    @2345Z 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Sometimes I wonder the point of having the guy with K-On profile pic here. He doesn't contribute to the discussion by talking and it just comes off as piggybacking on UFR.

    • @shrgn
      @shrgn 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      was alan the grifter all along???

    • @bananashoplifter3440
      @bananashoplifter3440 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Alan 🦖

  • @_inigomontoya9835
    @_inigomontoya9835 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    upload was fast as fuck this time