I really love the sounds of those Allison turboprops, I miss that sound very much. I flew on an Evergreen International L 188 Electra charter from EVV to DCA back in 1977, Ill never forget it! The P3 Orions are basically like the L 188s. I love the marshalling of the ground crew, demonstrates great airmanship and respect for the crew and the military service they are about to embark upon. Thank you for sharing this video.
Hello Christina I worked at Marine Corps Air Station Kaneohe Bay they moved the squadron from Barbers Point to Kaneohe Bay back in the mid-90s the one Squadron was vp-47 yes they did close Barbara's Point down but they are an amazing airplane:-)
When I was a kid (long time ago) I lived between to naval air bases Johnsville in Warminster and Willow Grove in Horsham and would fall asleep to the sound of those engines running all night. I Miss That.!
I was an AX in VP23 in the early 70s. I went on every detachment we had while I was in that squadron so I got quite a few hours as a ground pounder. I got out moved to Alaska, got a technician job in the oil fields and bought a little 7ECA Aeronca Champ and learned to fly. This plane is basically a Citabria rated for +4.5 and -2.5 Gs. It is also a taildragger which is great for off airport flying like gravel bars and beaches for hunting and fishing. I also had jobs in Alaska as a communications tech where I would charter all kinds of planes including small jets, turboprops and helicopters. I had to fly to an oil platform in Cook Inlet and my pilot was a former P3 In flight engineer.
I grew up on a Navy Bases, watching P-3 flying around the base 24-7, I love those sounds. My dad retired from the Navy as AX technician. I always love P-3's reliability, knowing that it would bring my dad home from his long deployments.
Love those t56's! Wrenched on those babies. What a timeless design The mechanical fuel control on the old ones was similar to the fuel injection on a late 50's Corvette.
I know a guy who started in the airforce in NZ on Andover’s (hs748 military variant) and then onto P3, then he went civilian b737 ( I think or maybe HS146) , finally finished on A380 in Dubai but he still loved those P3’s
Way back when - late 70s/ early 80s - I used to watch P-3s fly in and out of Burbank Airport in California. I really miss those days. P-3s, C-130s, C-141s, and the occasional C-5.
Really extremely successful shots. Without knowing from which country these are, I was immediately impressed by the accuracy and friendliness of the Marshallese at the start up of the machines. Of course, these were shot in Japan.
I flew 1,000 hours as 2nd engineer in VP 28 at Barbers Point Hawaii 1967-1969 14 combat missions in Vietnam, flying out of Cam Rahn Bay. Loved the sound of those turbo props “turn’n and burn’n.
VP-22 did the same tours 67-70, i don't remember ground crews directing or watching engine starts. All these videos seem slow as I remember the engines were started quickly then taxi, turn and go long. I liked the acceleration and upward motion.
My country had them, the RAF formed a squadron to country the Germans in WOII. This same squadron became a Royal Navy squadron in the Netherlands and this squadron sold oir P3 Orions to Germany.
Two observations: It's amazing that props can switch directions so often at that speed. There's nothing like standing in front of a plane as it starts engines and taxies off. Did this with C-141's for 4 years.
The props aren't switching directions, they're just increasing speed and the limited sample rate of the camera makes it appear as if they're changing direction.
West also has a lot of beautiful planes, it is good that Russia has maitained its aircraft industry and sometimes releases new planes. It is not difficult to visit Moscow it seems to me.
Started #2 in Hi speed ground idle. Then started 1, 3, then 4 in Low Speed ground idle. Then just before taxi #3 upshift to Hi speed ground idle. 1 and 4 would be up shifted to Hi speed before take off.
Anraí ground idle. There was a position on the throttle quadrant for ground start and ground idle. But the ground idle I’m referring to, is the RPM of the engine as opposed to the position of the blades. I don’t think there was much difference in blade angle between ground idle and ground start, most usually left the throttle position at ground idle. Mainly because the ground start position on the quadrant was superfluous anyway.
@@xairman565 Fair bit of difference between ground start and ground idle power lever position. Ground Start was not 'superfluous' - it was the position with the lowest blade angle that provided minimum resistance to blade start-up, then the power lever was placed into Ground Idle position that was actually a bit negative blade angle to direct thrust forwards to prevent the aircraft rolling forward - as just the thrust coming from the tailipipe is actually enough to move aircraft (around 700lb thrust per engine). You usually taxied around in reverse thrust so you didn't go too fast! If hot day you needed to cycle the engines sequentially into forward thrust to direct cooling air through oil cooler, then back to reverse and another to fwd thrust etc. Just FYI :)
Ground crew doesn't seem to have radio, so 'comms' being done by signalling, it would be interesting to know the meaning of each signal as there's obviously a lot going on.
@@raygale4198 Among many things i have done during my airline career, i have marshalled aircraft. It must be a military or govt. thing, on the civilian side we did the same thing he did just as effectively and without looking like you're conducting a goddamn orchestra. Good lord.
Why have you taken such an issue with the ground crew? So many militaries around the world do exactly this. Especially the US Air Force and Navy. Hand signals that are exaggerated, clear and concise, are very necessary. You have marshalled aircraft in a civilian environment. Excellent. The military asks for just a bit more from their crews than the civilian world. And the JASDF will certainly have a degree of ceremony in what they do.
Yo aprendí que un tipo de aeronaves como este deben ser encendidos los motores izquierdo al lado de la cabina uno dos lado derecho cabina para tener un balance estructural porque al ser encendidos dos motores de un lado puede ocasionar daños estructurales a los planos ya que hay vibración y empuje a uno de sus planos pero al encender como mencioné anteriormente hay un balance estructural
What always puzzles me in these JASDF or JMSDF videos is how the ground crewman stubbornly keeps giving the "start engine" sign even when the start-up has well and truly begun and he can see that the sign has been complied with. Does he really think the pilot is so stupid as not to understand the sign?
JSDF groundies are very particular and highly professional! You feel like to don't deserve such regimented ground handling when you are the air crew lol.
Well I mean, we do the same thing in the US when starting up engines, it’s not so much of a startup sign as much as it is a it’s going good sign, the pilots and tech would be able to notice the second the prop spins from the gauge aswell as pilot or copilot calling rotation
Its hard to tell the difference between a p3 or c130 they both used they same engines by sound they are the same, but thier missions were different Thanks Lockheed Aerospace
From where did that guy get those hand signals ? He must have made them up as he went along. From the red circle on the rear fuselage, is that a Japanese aircraft ?
Obviously this is Japan from the fuselage markings, but there’s no explanation text in the side bar… what exact Naval Base is this?? And what Japanese city is the close to? And today is 2023, so the question then too is… did Japan move to the P-8 to replace their P-3s or not, as has by now happened for the United States Navy? Or does anyone out there actually know?
На 07:04 обратите внимание на летящий самолёт в правом верхнем углу, ему на встречу что-то маленького размера летит и пролетая вблизи самолёта происходит вспышка это отчетливо видно...
Starting all four engines at the same time would drain the battery power too rapidly for the starter generators to keep up. If an aircraft with more than one engine is starting, and has to be started off of battery power alone, the engine that is closest to the battery is started first to keep the battery from draining too quick. For example, the battery in a Cessna 310 is located in the outer portion of the left wing near the number 1 engine nacelle, so the left engine is always started first.
I really love the sounds of those Allison turboprops, I miss that sound very much. I flew on an Evergreen International L 188 Electra charter from EVV to DCA back in 1977, Ill never forget it! The P3 Orions are basically like the L 188s.
I love the marshalling of the ground crew, demonstrates great airmanship and respect for the crew and the military service they are about to embark upon.
Thank you for sharing this video.
When I was stationed at Barbers Point in Hawaii, I would fall asleep to the sound of these engines. How I miss that sound!
U will get good justeenee for this 👏👍
OT-4,, Navfac Adak,, what I miss is Midrats at the VP Squadron.
Hello Christina I worked at Marine Corps Air Station Kaneohe Bay they moved the squadron from Barbers Point to Kaneohe Bay back in the mid-90s the one Squadron was vp-47 yes they did close Barbara's Point down but they are an amazing airplane:-)
Amazing how that guy starts engines with his gestures and little dance! If my car ever breaks down, I hope he's around to conjure it back to life :)
Thanks for the great video! I especially appreciate letting the sounds through without commentary.
When I was a kid (long time ago) I lived between to naval air bases Johnsville in Warminster and Willow Grove in Horsham and would fall asleep to the sound of those engines running all night. I Miss That.!
Зато у тебя хорошие воспоминания остались. Я бы тоже так хотел.
Grew up on Kaneohe Bay. This plane and its whistling droning howl is basically my childhood.
Moffat field Sunnyvale, ca was the big hotspot for the p3 in san Francisco bay area in the 70s 80s I miss these days.
I was a flight engineer on P3C aircraft from 1978 til 1991. I still miss them.
Did you know a man named Calvin Henley he trained flight engineers during the same time frame
Vp- 51 Vp- 54 Vp-94 he's 80
I flew Orions. I never knew how much I would miss every aspect of it.
I was an O level AE! Such a priviledge to work on a plane! 😃👍🎉
Fuckin' SAAAAAAME. I miss it terribly. It's also heartbreaking to witness them firsthand getting struck or sent to the boneyard.
did you fly the orion for real?
I was an AX in VP23 in the early 70s. I went on every detachment we had while I was in that squadron so I got quite a few hours as a ground pounder. I got out moved to Alaska, got a technician job in the oil fields and bought a little 7ECA Aeronca Champ and learned to fly. This plane is basically a Citabria rated for +4.5 and -2.5 Gs. It is also a taildragger which is great for off airport flying like gravel bars and beaches for hunting and fishing. I also had jobs in Alaska as a communications tech where I would charter all kinds of planes including small jets, turboprops and helicopters. I had to fly to an oil platform in Cook Inlet and my pilot was a former P3 In flight engineer.
Hey Chris I was a AD in VP 23 in the early 80s, stationed in Brunswick ME, so sad to see they retired the squadron.
I grew up on a Navy Bases, watching P-3 flying around the base 24-7, I love those sounds. My dad retired from the Navy as AX technician. I always love P-3's reliability, knowing that it would bring my dad home from his long deployments.
10 years out and I still miss that hum
Those Allison turboprops are music to my ears. Reminds me of the sounds of Dobbins Air Reserve Base. C-130s and P-3s are things of beauty.
Love those t56's! Wrenched on those babies. What a timeless design The mechanical fuel control on the old ones was similar to the fuel injection on a late 50's Corvette.
NAS New Orleans was full of these and C-130s. Love the sound. Miss it from my childhood.
Im 70, rented cessna 152's the last 40 years. My first airplane flight was in '63 on lockheed electra , american airlines to new york. Was awsome.
I grew up with CP-140's (Canadian P-3's) flying overhead, love the sound of those engines!
That looks like Atsugi Airfield. My first duty station. Loved watching those P3s and the big float planes come in all the time.
I absolutely love the choreography/the Dance of the Orions! Beautifully presented.
I know a guy who started in the airforce in NZ on Andover’s (hs748 military variant) and then onto P3, then he went civilian b737 ( I think or maybe HS146) , finally finished on A380 in Dubai but he still loved those P3’s
Way back when - late 70s/ early 80s - I used to watch P-3s fly in and out of Burbank Airport in California. I really miss those days. P-3s, C-130s, C-141s, and the occasional C-5.
Really extremely successful shots. Without knowing from which country these are, I was immediately impressed by the accuracy and friendliness of the Marshallese at the start up of the machines. Of course, these were shot in Japan.
That's Marshall Jackson there...
Japan
I grew up near NAS Moffett Field in the 1970s. These things were everywhere back then
I used to fly on Convair 580s never can forget the sound of the Allison turboprops
Sweet music
Worked these as converted to firefighting in the US. They are still an amazing aircraft.
I flew 1,000 hours as 2nd engineer in VP 28 at Barbers Point Hawaii 1967-1969
14 combat missions in Vietnam, flying out of Cam Rahn Bay.
Loved the sound of those turbo props “turn’n and burn’n.
VP-22 did the same tours 67-70, i don't remember ground crews directing or watching engine starts. All these videos seem slow as I remember the engines were started quickly then taxi, turn and go long. I liked the acceleration and upward motion.
A military version of the Lockheed L-188 Electra! Sister model!
My country had them, the RAF formed a squadron to country the Germans in WOII. This same squadron became a Royal Navy squadron in the Netherlands and this squadron sold oir P3 Orions to Germany.
Oh, what a beautiful procedure.
Two observations:
It's amazing that props can switch directions so often at that speed.
There's nothing like standing in front of a plane as it starts engines and taxies off. Did this with C-141's for 4 years.
The props aren't switching directions, they're just increasing speed and the limited sample rate of the camera makes it appear as if they're changing direction.
@@carl9654 Are you serious??? NO WAY.
Absolutely music to my ears love the Alison engines ❤❤
That sound! That sound!! It's hard to choose between a P-3 during taxi or a DC-7 on its takeoff roll. Great video.
Hermoso avión, mi primer viaje lo hice en uno de estos pero comercial, los volaba en Colombia la empresa AEROCONDOR y SAM y de Panamá la empresa COPA.
Very nice.
I like this style
You know that guy break dances on weekends.
The Robot in the chequered shirt is simply amazing 🤔
The amount of air pressure required to get that big prop spinning is very impressive!
Wow, a very good turboprop plane.
This has become one of my favourite planes
I saw the last US Navy public demo of the P3 Orion! It was at the 2022 Jacksonville (FL) Airshow at NAS JAx
Nice, still powerful ASW/ MP aircraft now and days...
Красивые раньше самолёты были, ил-38 тоже красивый.
I don't speak Russian but you are right they make great aircraft i always wanted to go to Moscow To visit
West also has a lot of beautiful planes, it is good that Russia has maitained its aircraft industry and sometimes releases new planes. It is not difficult to visit Moscow it seems to me.
Good job Marshalling 👍👍👍
I once made a model of a P3C Orion in 48 scale.
I used to build Monogram 1/48th scale models when a kid, WWII fighters what fun
This is how it’s done, Awesome! 👍👍👍
IM 62 years old. When I was five our family flew Air California from SFO to LAX in one of these.
P-3 is one of my favorite airplanes
下総基地の割と近いところに実家があります。子供の頃からよく耳にしていた音で、懐かしくなりました。
Agree overkill on the hand gestures. I'm pretty sure the FE knows the props are turning. We didn't do that on CP140's Auroras.😊
音がいい…P-1に置き換わらんでくれ
Its a jet engine with a propeller in it and the shaft turns to activate the turbines on it.
Started #2 in Hi speed ground idle. Then started 1, 3, then 4 in Low Speed ground idle. Then just before taxi #3 upshift to Hi speed ground idle. 1 and 4 would be up shifted to Hi speed before take off.
Ground idle or ground start?
Anraí ground idle. There was a position on the throttle quadrant for ground start and ground idle. But the ground idle I’m referring to, is the RPM of the engine as opposed to the position of the blades. I don’t think there was much difference in blade angle between ground idle and ground start, most usually left the throttle position at ground idle. Mainly because the ground start position on the quadrant was superfluous anyway.
@@xairman565 Fair bit of difference between ground start and ground idle power lever position. Ground Start was not 'superfluous' - it was the position with the lowest blade angle that provided minimum resistance to blade start-up, then the power lever was placed into Ground Idle position that was actually a bit negative blade angle to direct thrust forwards to prevent the aircraft rolling forward - as just the thrust coming from the tailipipe is actually enough to move aircraft (around 700lb thrust per engine). You usually taxied around in reverse thrust so you didn't go too fast! If hot day you needed to cycle the engines sequentially into forward thrust to direct cooling air through oil cooler, then back to reverse and another to fwd thrust etc. Just FYI :)
The "hand jive" guy gets to wear a seriously cool jacket! Imagine in the bright yellow/green with black, would be a majorly hi-vis!
So cool, was a AD in VP 23 in the early 80s, started out in the line doing exactly what he striped shirt guy did
Japanese discipline and correctness....👍👍....!
Japan is so awesome!
Man! That's a beautiful Bird!
An ode to the P3C. Whines like an Avro 748, drones like a Dash 8. It's not too Dash late.
I miss hearing them at NAS JAX
Headphones full volume.
Great planes, accompanied by absolutely the seriously silliest aircraft marshalling procedures ever invented.
Ground crew doesn't seem to have radio, so 'comms' being done by signalling, it would be interesting to know the meaning of each signal as there's obviously a lot going on.
@@raygale4198 Among many things i have done during my airline career, i have marshalled aircraft. It must be a military or govt. thing, on the civilian side we did the same thing he did just as effectively and without looking like you're conducting a goddamn orchestra. Good lord.
It appeared that the number of fingers held up and a pointer to the pilot indicated which engine to start.
@@oldtimer2192 One can accomplish the same results without making a goddamn Broadway show out of it.
Why have you taken such an issue with the ground crew? So many militaries around the world do exactly this. Especially the US Air Force and Navy. Hand signals that are exaggerated, clear and concise, are very necessary. You have marshalled aircraft in a civilian environment. Excellent. The military asks for just a bit more from their crews than the civilian world. And the JASDF will certainly have a degree of ceremony in what they do.
Ground crew's marching style reminded me of the Brits!
и вот эти драндулеты утюжат нашу ПВО)) , хотя нельзя их недооценивать
I flew on several Lockheed Electra's, but never saw such overstated ground crew girations & overkill?!
😂 They r funny 😂
what a majestic looking bird this one is.
Yo aprendí que un tipo de aeronaves como este deben ser encendidos los motores izquierdo al lado de la cabina uno dos lado derecho cabina para tener un balance estructural porque al ser encendidos dos motores de un lado puede ocasionar daños estructurales a los planos ya que hay vibración y empuje a uno de sus planos pero al encender como mencioné anteriormente hay un balance estructural
And they fly tru Hurricanes
ааахуенный запуск!!! я люблю вас))
Was an ordnanceman with VP 46 whidbey island Washington
Engine sound so smooth😊😊😊
those oldschool radial engines are smooth!
Those are turboprops
Only in Japan are as polite or they wave hands nicely in other places? 😊🇯🇵🎌🇯🇵
Wonderful video 😊
Beautiful video. The guys on the ground were elegant and precise👌
203atsの機体ですね。
自分が現職の頃にココで育てられました。
Must be some powerful brakes
I didn't know jockeys started engines thought they were on horse back
yeh..P-3, Allison pwrd....best craft goin' in the Air!!!😎🇺🇸👍
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What always puzzles me in these JASDF or JMSDF videos is how the ground crewman stubbornly keeps giving the "start engine" sign even when the start-up has well and truly begun and he can see that the sign has been complied with. Does he really think the pilot is so stupid as not to understand the sign?
JSDF groundies are very particular and highly professional! You feel like to don't deserve such regimented ground handling when you are the air crew lol.
Well I mean, we do the same thing in the US when starting up engines, it’s not so much of a startup sign as much as it is a it’s going good sign, the pilots and tech would be able to notice the second the prop spins from the gauge aswell as pilot or copilot calling rotation
Just seen this video,great shots and marshalling.💯❤️
What's all the hand gestures and arm waving all about?
Its hard to tell the difference between a p3 or c130 they both used they same engines by sound they are the same, but thier missions were different Thanks Lockheed Aerospace
Except they were upside down in the P3. If you duck under the wheel well there's a TD Amp above your head that says 'No Step' on it 😁
From where did that guy get those hand signals ? He must have made them up as he went along. From the red circle on the rear fuselage, is that a Japanese aircraft ?
Obviously this is Japan from the fuselage markings, but there’s no explanation text in the side bar… what exact Naval Base is this?? And what Japanese city is the close to? And today is 2023, so the question then too is… did Japan move to the P-8 to replace their P-3s or not, as has by now happened for the United States Navy? Or does anyone out there actually know?
Japanese ground crew?
Cool as heck!!!
Super professional
На 07:04 обратите внимание на летящий самолёт в правом верхнем углу, ему на встречу что-то маленького размера летит и пролетая вблизи самолёта происходит вспышка это отчетливо видно...
Это Пригожин, наверное.
This is at KADENA AFB JAPAN if I'm correct.
Could also be Iwakuni AFB Japan.
loppy1978 Iwakuni is a MCAS not an AFB. I lived there for a spell, so I should know.
@@josiahricafrente585 correct MCAS It hosts JASDF JMSDf us Navy Us marine corps and Us air force aircraft
It doesn't look like Kadena. The Japanese defense force has several bases in mainland Japan that are not joint use with the U.S.
JASDF plane?
Perfecto!! Excelente trabajo en equipo!!
👍👍🇨🇱
Impressionnant.
good plane
Awesome - Brasil
I want that guy's jacket!!
Molto bello grazie
Is that Marshall Jackson?
Beautiful
Poor guy in the yellow jacket.
the engine are c130 but with circle edge blade
Does the P3 have an APU?
Yes lol, that’s how they get the engines to start lol
Japan is very special.
Why not all four start at the same time?
Starting all four engines at the same time would drain the battery power too rapidly for the starter generators to keep up. If an aircraft with more than one engine is starting, and has to be started off of battery power alone, the engine that is closest to the battery is started first to keep the battery from draining too quick. For example, the battery in a Cessna 310 is located in the outer portion of the left wing near the number 1 engine nacelle, so the left engine is always started first.