This is such a great idea! I bought a ditto 2X a couple days ago and I've been trying to figure out ways to get the most out of it in a live setting. This just blew my mine,It's so practical, thank you!
Here's a hint if you really want to do real Ambient Looping: Why don't you guys implement Feedback -- like in other high-end loopers -- so that the older layers will gradually fade as new content is overdubbed? Stefan's ambient loop here is a good example. It sounds good. However, what is he going to do with the loop once it's closed (aside from the standard tricks such as half/double-speed or reverse)? The loop itself an artifact. Yes, it's chugging away back there in the background, but it's now completely static, unmoving. Now, Stefan can either open the loop back up and overdub new lines -- in which case the whole thing becomes a huge car crash because there's no more room in the spectrum for new material -- or he can fade/kill the whole loop and start over again. There's no in-between. Feedback control solves that problem by allowing older material to gradually fade away as you overdub new material on top. Implement that one function, and it will boost the Ditto X2 into a truly great Looper, and an indispensable tool for Ambient Looping.
Thanks for the feedback Dustbunnies (no pun intended). It's sadly not possible to implement this feature into the Ditto X2 Looper as it is now, but perhaps in a future product. It would indeed be an awesome option to have for everybody who loves looping.
TC Electronic Hey guys in my opinion one of the best loopers out there is the one on the dl4. Why don't you make a Ditto x4 that would allow to have the classic Rec/Overdub - Play/stop - Play once - 1/2 speed/reverse setup?
Ya know, I was on the fence on whether I should get the original Ditto or the x2. I like the original because it's very small and the real estate on my board is limited. The additional option to start and stop the Ditto with an extra button seemed very helpful to me. However I didn't feel like I could use the Reverse nor the 1/2 speed option. However, this alone makes it seem worth it just from hearing what you did with it! I'm looking to create some ambient stuff and those features seem like they would make great tones! Thanks a ton for this video. It's extremely helpful!
Nice! I love how many tricks this pedal can do. I discovered a similar sort of trick with omg X2 before I watched this video but adding the 4 seconds of quite looping seems to be more of an effective way to get those sounds to all mold together.
Good morning, you can connect in one of the inputs of the Ditto x2 pedal, an output from the computer's audio interface? to send you drum loops for example. I have tried and if it records but it is not heard through the speaker. Thank you.
+Emanuel Valente because loop pedals take the first recording as the main length.. and prerecoring it makes it easier as you don't have to worry about playing and pressing record as the same time .. and the recordings are gonna loop smoothly
I tired that it's not working.Inrecorded 3 seconds of silence then hit the left switch then hit it again to record and nothing happened.Maybe I did it the wrong way?
+Kyle Cicilioni - If you want all the ambience, yes. But that's not really what the trick is about. It's about getting a seamless droning loop going, which is great in an ambient context, but you can use the trick in whatever context you want to :)
The Ditto X2 looper is a very cool pedal however if you are playing high gain metal you won't be able to hear anything, so you definitely need 2 amps for it, even with clean sound 2 amps are a better choice.
Can I plug a keyboard and guitar in and loop the two on the same loop to two different amplifiers? Want to use this to lay down basslines, electronic percussion, keys, and guitar in one loop.
Are you recording new loops each time you add an ambient tone? Or just once? It's really cool. I'll need to add some sort of volume control to my acoustic but I'm going to give this a shot.
+Scott Martin - The looper is in overdub mode for quite some time in the beginning. So yeah, I'm stacking notes and melody lines to create that ambient wash :) All the best - Stefan
I LOVE my X2!! Use it everyday for riff writing, working out dual guitar parts, jamming to backing tracks and just general sonic experimentation. Love it. That aside, I must be dim this morning. What is the trick here? I think I am missing something. What is the purposr of the silent loop? Thanks!
This trick lets effects spill over into the next cycle of the loop, since you already have a defined start and end point. If you tried to do these highly effected volume swells in the "regular" looping fashion by tapping in - playing - tapping out it would most likely create a small gap of silence in the loop, since the effects aren't allowed to spill over. Hope this makes sense and clarifies the trick :)
TC Electronic ooooh I get it. Took me like 5 minutes to think it out, but I get it now. Haha wow. I should have stayed in bed today. :) thank you!! I think my brain is on spill over mode.
TC Electronic I've just bought the little version and haven't plugged it in yet. its my first looper so i'll be doing some learning. i'll have to try it with the silent few seconds and without because I'm not quite getting how the silence will affect things. looking forward to it though :)
It’s for the overdubs. When you add the first overdub, it automatically makes it fit to the number of seconds you were silence. This way you don’t need to “ nail” the first thing you play
We most definitely haven't ***** . But we have had some issues with the iPhone app and its update procedure. It's not that it isn't working it just updates very slowly (we're looking into fixing it :) ) The trick is to open the app, and leave it open for 5-10min. It's very important that you don't close the app, since this will abort the update process that's going on in the background. After 5-10min the app should be fully up to date with all the latest TonePrints. Hope this helps :)
Has the beaming process worked before Justin Wilson ? Or has it never worked? Because if it's never worked, then it's probably due to an outdated firmware version in the pedals. You just need to update them, and then the beaming should work :)
You'll find the Firmware update on the respective product pages. Just follow the update process as described on the page :) www.tcelectronic.com/hall-of-fame-reverb/support/ www.tcelectronic.com/flashback-delay/support/
+Elias Calhoun - If I had a dollar for everytime I've heard that, I would have around $10.... Oooooh yeah, that'll buy me one heck of a nice cup of coffee :D - all the best - Stefan
its a shame for tc elctronic puts this amateur videos for this kid....watch their hads!!!!!is a principiant kid!!!!! a shame i hope choose good guitar players in th future
ambient looping???? jajaja what piece of carp is this???? tc electronic is dead for this kind of kids!!! so david torn is sitar ambient??? tc pay for a good video and ttry tell david torn make a video for this pedal...of course prepare a bunch of $$$$
Nice demo pewdiepie!
That's the first thing I thought haha
The same hahaha
This is such a great idea! I bought a ditto 2X a couple days ago and I've been trying to figure out ways to get the most out of it in a live setting. This just blew my mine,It's so practical, thank you!
Glad you find the trick useful ***** . Truly means a lot to us :)
Here's a hint if you really want to do real Ambient Looping: Why don't you guys implement Feedback -- like in other high-end loopers -- so that the older layers will gradually fade as new content is overdubbed?
Stefan's ambient loop here is a good example. It sounds good. However, what is he going to do with the loop once it's closed (aside from the standard tricks such as half/double-speed or reverse)? The loop itself an artifact. Yes, it's chugging away back there in the background, but it's now completely static, unmoving.
Now, Stefan can either open the loop back up and overdub new lines -- in which case the whole thing becomes a huge car crash because there's no more room in the spectrum for new material -- or he can fade/kill the whole loop and start over again. There's no in-between.
Feedback control solves that problem by allowing older material to gradually fade away as you overdub new material on top. Implement that one function, and it will boost the Ditto X2 into a truly great Looper, and an indispensable tool for Ambient Looping.
Thanks for the feedback Dustbunnies (no pun intended). It's sadly not possible to implement this feature into the Ditto X2 Looper as it is now, but perhaps in a future product. It would indeed be an awesome option to have for everybody who loves looping.
I havent heard of this feedback before. Which pedals have this feature? Id like to check it out.
TC Electronic Hey guys in my opinion one of the best loopers out there is the one on the dl4. Why don't you make a Ditto x4 that would allow to have the classic Rec/Overdub - Play/stop - Play once - 1/2 speed/reverse setup?
Ya know, I was on the fence on whether I should get the original Ditto or the x2. I like the original because it's very small and the real estate on my board is limited. The additional option to start and stop the Ditto with an extra button seemed very helpful to me. However I didn't feel like I could use the Reverse nor the 1/2 speed option. However, this alone makes it seem worth it just from hearing what you did with it!
I'm looking to create some ambient stuff and those features seem like they would make great tones! Thanks a ton for this video. It's extremely helpful!
+Noah McCoy - Really happy you liked the video, and that you found it helpful :)
Andy is the best ambient musician I have ever heard! This is a great video!
Noah Hubbard Totally agree! He's a stellar musician. Thanks for your kind words about the video. Hope it inspires you to create some awesome music :)
Great job! I never would’ve thought about using the looper that way. Appreciate it.
Nice! I love how many tricks this pedal can do. I discovered a similar sort of trick with omg X2 before I watched this video but adding the 4 seconds of quite looping seems to be more of an effective way to get those sounds to all mold together.
Holy shit! I didn't know you worked at TC!
Wow! reminds me of Slowdive and some other indie bands
Cool , but what does the hidden switch marked #1 , behind the right battery do ???
awesome! i tried it and its so simple but easy to make big washes of sound
Just got mine...my whole world has changed haha!
+Alan Hinton hopefully for the better! :D
TC Electronic Indeed ;) Inspiration!
sounds really incredible, but what I was wondering, is it possible to loop vocals as well with the ditto X2?
+Andreas Schmid-Kietreiber - Thanks! Yes, you can loop vocals with it. You just need an XLR to Jack converter cable :)
Music is totally about timing. It’s about ethereal sound scape as well but time is everything in music.
Awesome tune and tricks, as always. Thanks!
Good morning, you can connect in one of the inputs of the
Ditto x2 pedal, an output from the computer's audio interface?
to send you drum loops for example. I have tried and if it records
but it is not heard through the speaker.
Thank you.
Heck yeah!! Andy Othling is a beast.
+Noah McCoy - Totally! :)
@@tcelectronic jajaj this kid is bad! a shame for tc electronic stuff...very amateur this dude
where have i been? so simple..so good... definitely helpful...thanks a lot
I just ordered mine, I'm really excited to explore it!
Great! Where the loop is in the chain?
Very bad ass. Well done, can't wait to get my hands on one.
+Jeffrey Wynn thanks, man! Happy you found the trick useful :)
Awesome little device! Ordered while watching :D
+fr618 - Happy you liked it :)
i dont understand why record silcence at start of loop..
+Emanuel Valente because loop pedals take the first recording as the main length.. and prerecoring it makes it easier as you don't have to worry about playing and pressing record as the same time .. and the recordings are gonna loop smoothly
+Ed Edd Eddy thanks!!
I want, I need, and I'll get this pedal!!!
Best loop pedal I’ve had by far
I tired that it's not working.Inrecorded 3 seconds of silence then hit the left switch then hit it again to record and nothing happened.Maybe I did it the wrong way?
Thanks for sharing this tip! Im having a blast with the ditto x2.
Cool trick. Very post-rock :)
What was the point of looping the silence?
Bruh... My heart just exploded!
so, you have to have to have some other type of effects pedal (outside of the Ditto) in order to make this work, correct?
+Kyle Cicilioni - If you want all the ambience, yes. But that's not really what the trick is about. It's about getting a seamless droning loop going, which is great in an ambient context, but you can use the trick in whatever context you want to :)
Great tip! would this work with a Boss RC 202?
The Ditto X2 looper is a very cool pedal however if you are playing high gain metal you won't be able to hear anything, so you definitely need 2 amps for it, even with clean sound 2 amps are a better choice.
maybe i dont get the whole thing - what happens at 3-14 ??
*****
Andy Othling
Lowercase Noises you're awesome Andy!
iC0dilla Andy rocks! :)
Nice demo!! I bought the x2 because of this video. Can you tell me what pedals you are using with it and witch amp..thx
Can I plug a keyboard and guitar in and loop the two on the same loop to two different amplifiers? Want to use this to lay down basslines, electronic percussion, keys, and guitar in one loop.
Jake Stewart Music Yes you can :)
That is just too cool. Thanks for getting back to me so fast! I think that this little device will get me out there doing a lot more solo gigs.
Are you recording new loops each time you add an ambient tone? Or just once? It's really cool. I'll need to add some sort of volume control to my acoustic but I'm going to give this a shot.
+Scott Martin - The looper is in overdub mode for quite some time in the beginning. So yeah, I'm stacking notes and melody lines to create that ambient wash :) All the best - Stefan
that's the main reason why i bought this guy)
This was great. Nice tip! Andy is the man.
I can hear a delay when you start playing the chords progression at 2:20. Is that delay coming from the Ditto X2 Looper or from another pedal?
Joan M that delay is coming from the Flashback Delay :)
What chord progression was that?
that was so fucking cool man, very inspiring.
tommynoisemusic Thanks man :)
I LOVE my X2!! Use it everyday for riff writing, working out dual guitar parts, jamming to backing tracks and just general sonic experimentation. Love it. That aside, I must be dim this morning. What is the trick here? I think I am missing something. What is the purposr of the silent loop? Thanks!
This trick lets effects spill over into the next cycle of the loop, since you already have a defined start and end point. If you tried to do these highly effected volume swells in the "regular" looping fashion by tapping in - playing - tapping out it would most likely create a small gap of silence in the loop, since the effects aren't allowed to spill over. Hope this makes sense and clarifies the trick :)
TC Electronic ooooh I get it. Took me like 5 minutes to think it out, but I get it now. Haha wow. I should have stayed in bed today. :) thank you!! I think my brain is on spill over mode.
TC Electronic I've just bought the little version and haven't plugged it in yet. its my first looper so i'll be doing some learning. i'll have to try it with the silent few seconds and without because I'm not quite getting how the silence will affect things. looking forward to it though :)
Nice Telecaster. :)
Can someone explain the recording silence at the beginning? I can’t seem to get my head around it in a practical sense
It’s for the overdubs. When you add the first overdub, it automatically makes it fit to the number of seconds you were silence. This way you don’t need to “ nail” the first thing you play
So now, technical your first overdub is actually the “base” of your ambient piece. Hope I’m explaining it right. I’m not even sure ;).
Andy, I love you :D also well made video ^^
Nice! And i like the guitar! Is it MiM or MiA? :)
It's MiM. But an awesome guitar non the less :)
This is amazing!:) I will be getting the pedal soon!
Wrath of PBJ Awesome to hear :)
Hats off to you! That was inspiring...
Is the gain solely from the amp or do you use any pedal?
+Minh Bear - gain is from the amp :)
+TC Electronic thanks! Sounds amazing with those wide range humbuckers
Excellent..., many thanks
awesome!!
Will this technique work with ditto looper mini ?
Yes :)
+TC Electronic thanks!!
Jeez do I need to buy one of these things!
Epic! I think I need that in my life o_o
It's a must if you like ambient guitar playing :)
Cool I don't really understand it but i think if I played around with the pedal I'd get it.
Pretty much! It's too abstract without the pedal at your feet :-)
Anton Yelchin (R.I.P.) with blonde hair!
be great for worship music
Yeah man, I'm gonna use it in my worship...of Satan. \m/
Have yall abandoned updating your iPhone app to beam Toneprints?
We most definitely haven't ***** . But we have had some issues with the iPhone app and its update procedure. It's not that it isn't working it just updates very slowly (we're looking into fixing it :) ) The trick is to open the app, and leave it open for 5-10min. It's very important that you don't close the app, since this will abort the update process that's going on in the background. After 5-10min the app should be fully up to date with all the latest TonePrints. Hope this helps :)
TC Electronic Yeah, I'm having some issues on Android with the Transition (Flashback) and HoF... Nothing happens but a weird bunch of noise.
Has the beaming process worked before Justin Wilson ? Or has it never worked? Because if it's never worked, then it's probably due to an outdated firmware version in the pedals. You just need to update them, and then the beaming should work :)
TC Electronic Never worked, really. So, to update the firmware, I plug it into my Mac and update through TonePrint Editor, maybe?
You'll find the Firmware update on the respective product pages. Just follow the update process as described on the page :)
www.tcelectronic.com/hall-of-fame-reverb/support/
www.tcelectronic.com/flashback-delay/support/
Great!!
Thanks man! :)
That`s cool!
+Peter Lisboa - Happy you liked it :)
alright u do that
Pedal zone
I am anxious to NOT sound like a haunted house.
awesome video and demo ... absolute shit job by fender bastardizing the tele with a strat 70's head stock
Dollar store PewDiePie
You remind me of pewdiepie....
Lol i thought i was the only one 😂👍🏻
+Elias Calhoun - If I had a dollar for everytime I've heard that, I would have around $10.... Oooooh yeah, that'll buy me one heck of a nice cup of coffee :D - all the best - Stefan
its a shame for tc elctronic puts this amateur videos for this kid....watch their hads!!!!!is a principiant kid!!!!! a shame i hope choose good guitar players in th future
watch their left hand jajajaj!!!!!!!!!! tc elctronic is dead for this kind of guitar kids!!!!!!!
bad guitar playing,this dude always plays the same,,,,please some jazzguy please!!!!!! this kids is for the kids
ambient looping???? jajaja what piece of carp is this???? tc electronic is dead for this kind of kids!!! so david torn is sitar ambient??? tc pay for a good video and ttry tell david torn make a video for this pedal...of course prepare a bunch of $$$$