Been playing one of these in the shops. Can say that this is one of the best Moogs ever made in terms of fun, accessibility, fun, SOUND and, just the fun of it. Takes me back to when I first played a Minimoog 40+ years ago. Music is supposed to be this much fun. And these two fellas seem to be all in the fun of it as well.
These guys are a great pair for introducing gear. They have chemistry. Jack is the best hype man for synths on TH-cam. Mylar is a perfect straight man with deep knowledge and an infectious desire to dig in and learn. Love it. Thanks.
19:31 You can make the oscillators drone if you connect the keyboard out into the attenuator and invert the voltage, and from there plug the inverted voltage into the pitch inputs of the oscillators. As the voltage is the same as the hard wired keyboard voltage, but with opposite polarity, the original and inverted voltages cancel each other out. You can also turn local control off, and just use CVs to control the oscillators.
Wow it's the sound effect from Forbidden Planet 17:00. I have not much idea what you are talking about but i'm hypnotised by the sounds and your enthusiasm. I wish i'd got into music when I was young, I wouldn't know where to start now and if i'd pick it up.
ARP 2600 is the only other keyboard I can think of that had a Spring Reverb. And yup, this Moog Grandmother seems to put the best of Modular Moog + Minimoog + ARP 2600 all into one super small package. Brilliant. Amazing.
@@thomas_S.O.P. I got myself the minilogue (standard). The XD does has more features but nothing really special or worth the additional cost. However I've found that the minilogue on it's own is perfect. Full analogue circuit, built in delay and sequencer, up to a 4 voice polyphony andit has this very unique overall tone. If had describe it I'd say it's a /cold/ sounding synth. It's not semi modular but if your not entirely familiar with synthesis I'd say that's a good thing. I'm sorry for making this sound like an advertisement but I can strongly recommend.
I just got mine in black two days ago. I’m already addicted. I only wish they had built a patch recall into it. I love building sounds but loosing them or not having a quick recap of them is such a drag.
I own a Voyager XL, and this interests me so much. When I first saw it, I thought it looked like a toy. That said, the more videos I see for it, the more amazing it seems as a musical instrument. Great video, guys.
I can tell you first hand that it doesn't feel like a toy. I sometimes just stroke or grip mine while doing other things on my computer because it just feels so solid and well-built. Great keys too.
If I'm not mistaken, they have that super noisy patch below, then, they max the resonance of the filter that is key trackable (basically another oscillator that you can give pitch to with the keyboard) and start playing the patch as a whole as sort of a lead. Since the resonance is so extreme it works and is an audible melody And yeah it sounded awesome I think this is very do able in a prophet type synth, not exactly like that, but you can get a similar sound
DAMN!!! I was like, only 3 voices, very limiting, but the quality of the sound is epic! Those single notes are so FULL and rich similar to a real instrument soloing that adding layers to fill out the sound is not necessary.
Keen to hear from you all - Is there anything you would wish Moog can add to the Grandmother to give it a bit more functionality and capabilities with a firmware update?
Almost a year ago, I walked into a store wanting to buy a new VA poly synth, but it wasnt there. Guess what, I ended up playing the Grandmother....and buying it a few days later. Pure eargasms in the store = the best selling technique! ( :D i was exactly like Jack: "Woaw..." )
Im really interested in the Grandmother. I'm sorry to ask, but how close could I get with this to Adam Holzman's lead sound on Steven Wilson's track Regret #9? Thanks.
Interestingly, you rarely see professional musicians performing live with these. Perhaps it’s the 32 key limitation or that there are other monophonic synths with more features for a similar price. The ‘dark’ version without the coloured panels I feel is infinitely more visually and aesthetically appealing though so much harder to source
I really do like the way it drives, but I have a minibrute 2, and think this is very pricey for what it is. My minibrute can probably cover all the sounds (less reverb) that the grandma can.
Hey Jack as always thanks for a very entertaining video, cheers Alex :) Can you please advise how you set up the guitar? Lazy j cruiser? The moog manual makes no recommendations or suggestions for line in :( Your help would be greatly appreciated .
Hey John, thanks for watching mate and for your question. We used the Cruiser as a preamp essentially. Sounded a bit skinny on it's own so any drive pedal or compressor pedal would do the same thing and act to just beef up the guitar signal a bit before running through the Moog's goodness. Seemed to turn out ok. All the best and thanks again X
@@jackduxburymusic Thanks Jack. You're a Bloody legend in my book. Would love to have a beer with you one day. You strike me as being as much fun as anyone I've ever known and I know some fun geezers. Rock on dude Always make me smile. Love your shows, whatever they're paying you ain't enough 😛
That would be a bit untidy - I don’t see why you couldn’t attach a separate external spring reverb to the cables running to the verb inside. I watched LMNC strip a GM apart which shows the tank and it’s connections. P E A C E : )
they came with mattriarch because they listened to the custumors and what they wanted. i played both. both incridible synths, but to me , if you compare the prices the grandma is absolutely the winner. mattriarch is for ppl who don't have couple of thousends euro rack modules, because its a complete system in itself and costs almost 3 grand. the granma costs around 600-800 ( based on condition) used and you can sync it to your rac and absolutely go nuts. I will never give mine away ever again. I already bought it, sold it, bought it again , borowed it and now she came back after almost a year. now she is gonna stay forever!!!!
@@TheNimasan I think I agree/ if I had the room I would buy 4 Grandmothers for four notes but hey I don't have to, since they did come out with the Matriarch. With that said, the delay on the Matriarch is worth it's weight in gold by itself. But I do like the grandmother better.
@@dazeja have you had any issues with the mod wheel? I’ve been wanting to a get a grandmother for a while but seeing stories of people having issues with the mod wheel and pitch bend has worried me. What do you think?
Easy. Do you have $900? Get the Grandmother and then start saving for the D. Do you only have $300? Then get the D and start saving for the Grandmother. Dilemma solved 😉
Something about the Grandmother is just fun and inspiring to me when ever I've played it but then again I get that I'm an idiot and might just be enjoying the simplicity!! Thanks for watching Rich X
I tried both a couple weeks ago side by side, they're both great. The sub37 has presets, the grandmother has a better raw sound. If you play in a band, or you otherwise rely on presets in the studio (e.g. change patches in the middle of a song or need to go back and forth between patches), the sub37 is the better choice. The sub37 also has a very slightly larger keyboard. Hope this helps!
Maybe someone can help me... I'm a guitarist, who has no idea about anything concerning synths, but this thing sounds so fun, and it makes great sounds. I'm thinking about buying the Grandmother and experimenting with some stoner/doom type stuff. My main question is, what type of amplifier should I buy to play this through, in a band setting? I'm sure I would need a pretty loud amp to compete with the guit.ars, bass, and drums, sooo... Any suggestions for a keyboard/synth amp? Also, "Who Are You?" by Black Sabbath sent me here.
Generally I’d suggest running it to the PA EVH ran his Wurlitzer to a Marshall, and king crimson ran their Hohner Pianets to hiwatts, so you can always experiment with sending keys to guitar amps too (for stoner stuff, it might actually get you an extra sludgy tone)
Mine arrives today after months of saving. I am so pumped!
The Moog Grandmother is a BEAST of a synth.
Been playing one of these in the shops. Can say that this is one of the best Moogs ever made in terms of fun, accessibility, fun, SOUND and, just the fun of it. Takes me back to when I first played a Minimoog 40+ years ago. Music is supposed to be this much fun. And these two fellas seem to be all in the fun of it as well.
Great overview! I ❤ Grandma
Everybody needs a grandmother! Got mine today! Fantabulous piece of kit!
so fun to make noise with
I really like this format... The synth gets explained quite well and you get an overview on its sound... well done!
Great demo. Amazing synth. Near the end @ 38:39 with the guitar plugged into the GM .... WOW!
unreal sounds 🤩
These guys are a great pair for introducing gear. They have chemistry. Jack is the best hype man for synths on TH-cam. Mylar is a perfect straight man with deep knowledge and an infectious desire to dig in and learn. Love it. Thanks.
"straight".. uuuuh
Aside from a big moog modular, that’s the vibiest analog synth I’ve ever heard!! Unbelievable! Awesome video!!
Just saved up for one and gotta wait one more week for it and really cant bloody wait , it just really really grew on me .
How's it going with the old Grandmother, 3 years on?
Sounds very vintage and old like my grandma.
LoL
But she’s missing the spring
19:31 You can make the oscillators drone if you connect the keyboard out into the attenuator and invert the voltage, and from there plug the inverted voltage into the pitch inputs of the oscillators. As the voltage is the same as the hard wired keyboard voltage, but with opposite polarity, the original and inverted voltages cancel each other out. You can also turn local control off, and just use CVs to control the oscillators.
This thing sounds great in the video, and the spring reverb is great for some on board time effects. It's also not stupidly expensive.
It sounds even better in real life I got one
@@colourbasscolourbassweapon2135 Nice. 👍
So my list of what synths to grab (sorted from buying first to last) :
1. Grandmother
2. Subsequent37
3.Matriarch
4. Moog One 16
Yes! I have one. Best thing since my long lost Pro-One.
Grandmother + Mother-32 + DFAM 😍
Great review👍 if u clock it from an external source the rate knob will work as a clock divider
can't wait to try this when i finally get mine;) thank you!
Every-time I see Mylar Melodies, I press like.
you would think that andertons would have the good taste to link his channel in the description
same here such a great guy!
I love the guitar at the end, awesome.
This was the video that sold me on it.
Jack might be my favorite person on the Internet.
Jack + Alex is the top combination!
Have you only just found the internet ?
Jack. You're the best around. Nothing's gonna ever keep you down.
Oh maaan, thanks so much for the kind words Impurfekt. Very much appreciated, just glad someone's digging my nonsense!! Much love x
Great song
That was great fun watching the whole stuff!
Wow it's the sound effect from Forbidden Planet 17:00. I have not much idea what you are talking about but i'm hypnotised by the sounds and your enthusiasm. I wish i'd got into music when I was young, I wouldn't know where to start now and if i'd pick it up.
Wow same here I just bought a mini and have no idea what plugs wher
I could listen to that guitar through it forever.
ARP 2600 is the only other keyboard I can think of that had a Spring Reverb. And yup, this Moog Grandmother seems to put the best of Modular Moog + Minimoog + ARP 2600 all into one super small package. Brilliant. Amazing.
The system Model 15 has a Spring Reverb that what the grandmother Spring Reverb Is based of aka the same circuitry and stuff so yeah
I'm a guitarist and I now want to play a synth. THIS SYNTH
Purple D me to and I can’t decide if I should buy this or the monologue xd from Korg 😁
@@thomas_S.O.P. I got myself the minilogue (standard). The XD does has more features but nothing really special or worth the additional cost. However I've found that the minilogue on it's own is perfect. Full analogue circuit, built in delay and sequencer, up to a 4 voice polyphony andit has this very unique overall tone. If had describe it I'd say it's a /cold/ sounding synth. It's not semi modular but if your not entirely familiar with synthesis I'd say that's a good thing. I'm sorry for making this sound like an advertisement but I can strongly recommend.
There are a few grandmothers that want to play with me. Here we call them "cougars". 😎🇨🇦
He’ll yeahs, it’s even better! Every time Alex comes in, it totally makes me want to buy shit, NOW!!
I finally played one and it is so much fun.
I just got mine in black two days ago. I’m already addicted. I only wish they had built a patch recall into it. I love building sounds but loosing them or not having a quick recap of them is such a drag.
Love that drone stuff!
One of the videos that made me buy a Moog Grandmother.
Really cool! Now I want one...!
Just ordered mine!
Got her now and I love her! Gotta play more!
I own a Voyager XL, and this interests me so much. When I first saw it, I thought it looked like a toy.
That said, the more videos I see for it, the more amazing it seems as a musical instrument.
Great video, guys.
I can tell you first hand that it doesn't feel like a toy. I sometimes just stroke or grip mine while doing other things on my computer because it just feels so solid and well-built. Great keys too.
@@henryhill92 wait, whut?
@@beigela you heard me
This is far from a toy aka it has the same circuitry as the model 15 system that's 25k $
Definitely NOT a toy. - Moog don’t play, regardless of who is running/owning the company.
Holy fuck that bit with the guitar at the end was dope!
i sold my grandmother to buy my first poly and can safely say is my biggest regret
Which one?
Buy another one!🤓😉
Awesome video! A great in-depth explanation. Cheers guys!
What happens at 19:08ish? As in, how could I get that kind of sound from another synth? It's incredible!
It just sounds like a decent amount of modulation, some resonance and they close the filter a bit with some spring reverb.
If I'm not mistaken, they have that super noisy patch below, then, they max the resonance of the filter that is key trackable (basically another oscillator that you can give pitch to with the keyboard) and start playing the patch as a whole as sort of a lead. Since the resonance is so extreme it works and is an audible melody
And yeah it sounded awesome
I think this is very do able in a prophet type synth, not exactly like that, but you can get a similar sound
DAMN!!! I was like, only 3 voices, very limiting, but the quality of the sound is epic! Those single notes are so FULL and rich similar to a real instrument soloing that adding layers to fill out the sound is not necessary.
...the best demo i have seen :)
Best tool I've ever bought
Dreamy! The synth is great too!
Can you please compare Korg ms-20 fs with Grandmother?
Keen to hear from you all - Is there anything you would wish Moog can add to the Grandmother to give it a bit more functionality and capabilities with a firmware update?
Even if you own a Matriarch like I do, this video is incredibly inspiring for getting sick tones out of your Moog synth!
Mylar Melodies is THE best demonstrator ever. And this Grandmother is absolutely awesome!!!
the magic happens at 35:15
More Alex + Jack please
Any recommendations for a good stand for this and maybe something two tiered that can another keyboard and laptop?
I love my K & M Spider Pro. Definitely makes a statement onstage 😅
Almost a year ago, I walked into a store wanting to buy a new VA poly synth, but it wasnt there. Guess what, I ended up playing the Grandmother....and buying it a few days later.
Pure eargasms in the store = the best selling technique! ( :D i was exactly like Jack: "Woaw..." )
32:41 that sound man, what a synth
Im really interested in the Grandmother. I'm sorry to ask, but how close could I get with this to Adam Holzman's lead sound on Steven Wilson's track Regret #9? Thanks.
Anyone who wants to get rid of their Granny - I’d be happy to take the old bag in!
31:05 blank sequence. great tip
Hell yes it is! Modern classic. This will be a sought after synth for years
or maybe it will be like the Sub 37; people all like it, and after two years, it gets boring and people sell it again for the next new thing ;)
I need this for a morning bowel movement.
@j s TMI
Interestingly, you rarely see professional musicians performing live with these. Perhaps it’s the 32 key limitation or that there are other monophonic synths with more features for a similar price. The ‘dark’ version without the coloured panels I feel is infinitely more visually and aesthetically appealing though so much harder to source
I love my gramma. I just get lost in sound with it, it's almost meditative for me. Sickest bass lines ever too once I emerge from my theta state.
This is a great exploration video. Thanks.
I'm out to get a Grandmother, hold my coffee.
Love the vidz Jack! Been watching since jd-xi era lol :)
Thanks you so much man, muchos love Xxxx
I really do like the way it drives, but I have a minibrute 2, and think this is very pricey for what it is. My minibrute can probably cover all the sounds (less reverb) that the grandma can.
But it’s not a Moog
Did anyone know what's Alex youtube channel?
Thank me,
th-cam.com/users/mylarmelodies
Just ordered one. Haha.
Wouldn’t the guitar’s volume knob have worked as a volume control, without the need of an overdrive pedal?
Oh Damn I didn't realize this was Mylarmelodies!
Jack @ 16:00, 17:40 and 17:42 ...best thing on the Internet today...hahahahaha yes!
Hey Jack as always thanks for a very entertaining video, cheers Alex :) Can you please advise how you set up the guitar? Lazy j cruiser? The moog manual makes no recommendations or suggestions for line in :( Your help would be greatly appreciated .
Hey John, thanks for watching mate and for your question. We used the Cruiser as a preamp essentially. Sounded a bit skinny on it's own so any drive pedal or compressor pedal would do the same thing and act to just beef up the guitar signal a bit before running through the Moog's goodness. Seemed to turn out ok. All the best and thanks again X
@@jackduxburymusic Thanks Jack. You're a Bloody legend in my book. Would love to have a beer with you one day. You strike me as being as much fun as anyone I've ever known and I know some fun geezers. Rock on dude Always make me smile. Love your shows, whatever they're paying you ain't enough 😛
I would like to see a proper Andertons review of th MFB Dominion 1 😉
Fleuw's Burrow contemplating between Grandmother or Dominion 1!
Fleuw's Burrow or the tanzbar 2!!!
i reckon they could have put the spring on a tray that comes out of the synth
That would be a bit untidy - I don’t see why you couldn’t attach a separate external spring reverb to the cables running to the verb inside. I watched LMNC strip a GM apart which shows the tank and it’s connections.
P E A C E : )
can you control the volume via CV?
If not, just put it through a mixer with cv inputs.
Yes.
Perfect
Alex, Jack and Grandmother? Jackpot...
Are there lots of pubs in Guilford?
There are indeed! The one right next door to the store is called the Drummond, killer Sunday Roast!! X
I just saw pictures of the Drummond, looks lovely!! On my list when I get there...
9:18, puts on eyepatch and protests……
“President of what!”
Guys, you just sold a Grandmother!
And then 1 year later they slapped us with Matriarch. I never bought two synths so fast.
Traded my grandmother, to get a matriarch.....I now realized I should’ve kept both. 😤
they came with mattriarch because they listened to the custumors and what they wanted. i played both. both incridible synths, but to me , if you compare the prices the grandma is absolutely the winner. mattriarch is for ppl who don't have couple of thousends euro rack modules, because its a complete system in itself and costs almost 3 grand. the granma costs around 600-800 ( based on condition) used and you can sync it to your rac and absolutely go nuts. I will never give mine away ever again. I already bought it, sold it, bought it again , borowed it and now she came back after almost a year. now she is gonna stay forever!!!!
@@TheNimasan I think I agree/ if I had the room I would buy 4 Grandmothers for four notes but hey I don't have to, since they did come out with the Matriarch. With that said, the delay on the Matriarch is worth it's weight in gold by itself. But I do like the grandmother better.
@@dazeja have you had any issues with the mod wheel? I’ve been wanting to a get a grandmother for a while but seeing stories of people having issues with the mod wheel and pitch bend has worried me. What do you think?
@@3m287 not at all.
Yes it is!!!! 😎✌️
7:40 my nutsack literally dropped a bit.
Glorious.
19:20 good god
awesome!!!
Ob6 has spring reverb
yeah but not a real one
10:11 Yes, Yes it is.
Can we high five that? Yep.
Grandmother VS Behringer Model D? (not features but sound)
grandmother.
Easy. Do you have $900? Get the Grandmother and then start saving for the D. Do you only have $300? Then get the D and start saving for the Grandmother. Dilemma solved 😉
The Behringer Model D is directly inspired by the mini moog revision D.
Did Someone know the Name of Alex‘s TH-cam Channel? Thx
Ahoy! Welcome welcome
Thx 👍🏼
If there’s a mother and a grandmother, then who is the granddaughter? Who is the father and grandpa?
Get ready for the $100 Theremin called the Great Grandmother
Dunno but the real grandcestor is clearly called "901"
Tl:Dr: Yes
I dropped my phone in some water and I thought it was broken when I heard the synth
27.43 god was talking
This or sub37?
Something about the Grandmother is just fun and inspiring to me when ever I've played it but then again I get that I'm an idiot and might just be enjoying the simplicity!! Thanks for watching Rich X
I tried both a couple weeks ago side by side, they're both great. The sub37 has presets, the grandmother has a better raw sound. If you play in a band, or you otherwise rely on presets in the studio (e.g. change patches in the middle of a song or need to go back and forth between patches), the sub37 is the better choice. The sub37 also has a very slightly larger keyboard.
Hope this helps!
yes
Can’t believe a single oscillator sounds that fat. Wow! Mines coming tomorrow
Mike Bloomberg Tax commercials Fuck that ? Good video on Grandmother .
Yes it is
Maybe someone can help me... I'm a guitarist, who has no idea about anything concerning synths, but this thing sounds so fun, and it makes great sounds. I'm thinking about buying the Grandmother and experimenting with some stoner/doom type stuff. My main question is, what type of amplifier should I buy to play this through, in a band setting? I'm sure I would need a pretty loud amp to compete with the guit.ars, bass, and drums, sooo... Any suggestions for a keyboard/synth amp? Also, "Who Are You?" by Black Sabbath sent me here.
Generally I’d suggest running it to the PA
EVH ran his Wurlitzer to a Marshall, and king crimson ran their Hohner Pianets to hiwatts, so you can always experiment with sending keys to guitar amps too (for stoner stuff, it might actually get you an extra sludgy tone)
More like if your Grandmother's Wurlitzer on LSD.
Spoiler alert: the answer is 'Yes'.