@ 47min....Shannon plays the ball off the point. I LOVE THIS MATCH. Thank you inside pool. The worst resolution might is one of my all time fav. OP matches EVER. :)
Concerning the first game ball count: Shannon made 2 balls on the first score of the game. the 7 ball bank in his pocket and the second shot was the 3 ball in Efren's pocket. Efren owed a ball and Efren placed the 7 ball on the spot and placed the 3 ball on Shannon's side of the trough. So when Shannon won the game it wasn't an incorrect count it was the choice of Efren to place the 7 ball banked into Shannon's pocket on the spot and the 3 ball made in Efren's pocket by Shannon into Shannon's side of the trough.
one pocket is much more fun and exciting to play than to watch. i prefer to watch 9 ball but this game in particular was exciting. Shannon played amazingly. never seen anyone play such great one pocket
♥♥ Billy (the commentator) was wrong about the first game. Shannon was the only player to pocket balls in the first game. He pocketed 9 balls - one of which went into Efren's pocket (which Efren had owed because he had taken an intentional foul, earlier). The other 8 balls were pocketed by Shannon into his own pocket.
well what I meant was is that he keeps going on in discussions. There is even a point in which the other commentator is very polite: giving him all the respect, respecting his opinion and all that. and the other guy just keeps going, And then the other guy just decides to deescalate by naming all the sponsors! Ofcourse his opinion is one of the most valuable, since he has been world champion but he should work a bit on commentating TOGETHER.
Billy is always great especially his stories because u know they r all true my favorite is how he and Mike Siegel met Earl Strickland the first time lol
I've never heard of one pocket before, but this is bloody brilliant. A tactical minefield, with rising tension before a release of fireworks. I'll have to give this game a go...
Regarding the thing about the 3 ball and the commentators thinking the score was wrong... Efren owed a ball... When he pocketed the 3 ball, he spotted the 7 ball. No big deal. So... Daulton moved the 3 ball to his side and the score is correct.
CONGRATS, CANNON. That was IMPRESSIVE! I'm glad that you mentioned that even a guy like you has a hard time making a living playing pool these days. It needed said back then and to this day!
This is a great match! I love the game of one pocket because it is so much more challenging for me than 9-ball or 8-ball. Anyways, it is pretty crazy to see Efren take a loss..
I have this match on dvd.....Billy can't quit praising Efren ....Shannon plays so good he has Efren dogging,playing tentivly....& Billy had a ringside seat for it
The reason it takes so long is that you never want to give the opponent a chance to start a run. That is why the shots for the first 30 minutes were all defensive (putting the cue ball near the other shooter's pocket.) You want unobstructed balls near your pocket so when the other player sells out you can run out.
I do.. One pocket is a defensive game.. Each player has a pocket at the foot of the table, and the idea is to shoot offensively at your hole, trying to make 8 balls (which is a majority of the 15) before your opponent does, with the caveat that you leave nothing offensive for your opponent to shoot at when your inning ends.. So, it's about positioning, and setting traps.. But also, it's about risk/reward evaluation, meaning, if you have a 7-1 lead in balls, there's no need to risk a tough shot..
Actually in games such as one pocket, snooker and straight pool they use a safety break for various reasons. Right now we are watching one pocket, its a game in which each player has one designated pocket in which they are allowed to pot balls. The design of the break is to put a few balls out in front of your pocket leaving most of the rack in tact while no balls are in front of your opponents pocket and the cue ball is at the other end of the table.
It's been a while since I've seen a closed bridge cue hold. I normally see open bridge techniques. I play snooker so, I've also played 14.1 (Straight Pool), 8 ball, 9 ball, and Carom. I've never played One Pocket I know the rules yet this is my first time watching it.
Watch the movie "Turn the River" for a little better understanding of the game. Although the movie is obviously made under the assumption that everybody understands "one pocket", it makes it a little clearer. After that, look up "one pocket rules" on Yahoo! or your favorite search engine. It's really not that difficult to understand....
@ljcayie it is called "one pocket". at break time, a player picks one of the lower two pockets as his pocket. the objective of the game is to make 8 balls in "your pocket" before your opponent makes 8 in his. a ball made in your opponent's pocket counts as a ball for them. if a ball is made in the other four pockets, it gets spotted back. if a foul occurs, you spot one of your balls. if you have none, you will "owe" one.
Watched the first half. So far, Dalton get out of Efren's traps using great imagination and execution. The best example of how to escape traps that I have seen.
@ljcayie if you make a ball in the same time as committing a foul, that ball spots, and you still have to spot one of your own. a ball must contact the rail after the cue ball strikes a ball. sometimes people take intentional fouls so they do not give their opponent a shot.
@anphelps27 does that make the same 5 people who make it to the world series final table in poker the 5 luckiest people in the whole tournament?... pool is all skill i agree but poker does require skill to an extent
Cont.. And consequently, if the score is not in your favor, say if you're down 6-2, or 7-3, or even 5-1 (ball count), then it may be in your best interest to shoot aggressively, to turn the game around.. It's a gambling game, and it allows for a wide range of handicaps to match different levels of player.. One of my favorite ways to play is with the backgammon cube, which allows me to "offer the cube" to my opponent, if I like the situation.. forcing him to quit, or double the bet..
Can someone clarify something about Billy's story? When he said Efren gave him "the 7 AND the 10" playing 10 ball. I know what getting the 7 is, but isn't getting the 10 already a given since it's the money ball for both players?
When gambling playing one pocket the player giving a spot must pocket more balls. Playing 10/7 means Efren has to make 10 balls in his pocket and Billy has to make 7 in his pocket. The first two balls that Efren pockets are spotted (after he finishes his inning). Thus more than 15 balls are in play.
that one commentaryguy is doing nothing but trying to convince the other commentator he knows more about one pocketpool. great movie btw. I now understand the game and it was fun to watch. for more than 2 hrs!
You have to wonder how they can be going on about the 3 ball when the 7 ball that was the first ball pocketed was sitting on the table. Reyes owed a ball and the 7 ball was spotted. Does it get any easier?
@hammerknocker31649 You are right man. But what I meant by lazy was something dif. When I learned to play I would go into the room at 1pm and start doing drills for atleast 4-5 hours 3-4x a week. And I was not the only one doing them. When is the last time you walked into a room and saw more than one guy drilling consistently? To some the purpose of gambling is to strictly make $. For me it was to c who could hold up under the pressure. Its not bout how much u have. cont...
No, my location is irrelevant. I have a great deal with both games having played pool since I was 12 and poker since I was 13 or so. The comparison shouldn't be even made and I don't understand why it is being made..... If anything compare pool to golf
Why does billy incardona know everything but cant perform for nothin. He sounds like a therapist or something...he uses way too many words to describe the smallest things. but THUMBS UP to the match!
I don't know which commentator is Joey and which one is Billy but I after the second match its funny how they started slightly arguing about what the player will shot.
The guy asking the occassional question and comments about everything not pool is the amateur named joey but the guy explain in detail stuff is billy incardona. He is probably the best announcer ever in pool. Great player from back in the day. More known for big action than tourney play. Very knowledgable. He knows what he is talking about most of the time.
@carneyfex i totally agree with you that 9 pool is rubbish. As an amateur player like myself, I play it for the fun factor but for professionals its rather low, and winning short race 9ball tourneys isn't the basis of great skill and talent. That's why players like Reyes would sometimes easily lose. If all the balls pocketed in 9 ball, including the 9 on the break are called in, then and only then that I will have respect for the game. I'd rather prefer 8ball, long races,round robin matches lik
@GypsieChris For sure brother. All pool is is a grind and you cant win anything. Everyone want to bet 20 and win 1000. I beat a guy our of 40 bux the the other day and he went nuts, but right after that he went and sat down at the poker game and lost 400 and. (We have a poker game in our poolk hall) I know that there is a skill factor in poker, but the luck factor outways the skill. (not in the long run) The only way the skill factor counts is if you play with the same people everyday
I seen daultion in local pool hall in Cincinnati great player. but reyes did not play that well. long run take reyes for the money. I don't know about Billy story beating reyes. They change cloth middle of night he broke and every time he made multiple balls. race to 21 And gets 3 on they wire but he said he one 21 to 4 when he only needs 18 it sound like a fish story. .
@wizrun1 I dont think they are but Efren is a professional player. He is one of the best in the world and to see him mess up fairly routine shots is uncharacteristic for him. I also am a fellow one pocket player and you just cant make mistakes that he made. It would be ok at my level cuz im not that great.
@GypsieChris Ok, let me say it like this. Nothing takes place of experience, but in a game of poker, you can be in a certain position with certain cards and make a play you consider to be correct and win. Repeat that same situation and change ur opponents cards and you could lose. Skill falls into poker when you play with the same people all the time. Going to sit down at a new table, your flipping a coin more or less. THERE IS SOMEONE NEW EVERY YEAR ON TV WINNING SOMETHING.
@GypsieChris Poker and pool are not even close to the same. Poker is luck and you can win after playing cards for a week, as pool it takes a few years. Why in pro poker tourneys half of the pros are knocked out. That has never happened in pool.
Annoying listening to these clowns go on about the 3 ball for 2 games. Shannon banked the 7 then put the 3 in Reyes pocket. Reyes owed one and spotted Shannon's 7 so Shannon took Reyes 3.
shit dude this is crazy!. im still a beginner playin with a 20$ walmart stick at local bars with my buddy, and this stuff is rediculous. Love it though.
i love it when the commentator stutters (his only job is to talk and he cannot do it right) and the MC is like a mummy...it is a shame that great matches like this can be ruined by the "extras"
I'm going to go out on a limb and ask if you have enough pool ability to truly comment and compare the two. You wouldn't happen to live in Los Angeles, would you?
This is possibly the greatest one pocket ever played.....taking in lighting conditions, table conditions....really rather incredible
Great story by Billy, I liked hearing that. When I met Efren I said "there are many great players; but you are an artist"
i watch this video once a night! loveit! learn it! study them!
Great story Billy, thanks for sharing
That shot by efren at the 15:00 mark that sent the balls to his pocket is the greatest one pocket shot ive ever seen.
And great shot by Shanon right after
He is likely the goat 1p..
@ 47min....Shannon plays the ball off the point. I LOVE THIS MATCH. Thank you inside pool. The worst resolution might is one of my all time fav. OP matches EVER. :)
trumanhw Hey we had to start somewhere with IPtv ! Thanks for the input Truman !
Concerning the first game ball count: Shannon made 2 balls on the first score of the game. the 7 ball bank in his pocket and the second shot was the 3 ball in Efren's pocket. Efren owed a ball and Efren placed the 7 ball on the spot and placed the 3 ball on Shannon's side of the trough. So when Shannon won the game it wasn't an incorrect count it was the choice of Efren to place the 7 ball banked into Shannon's pocket on the spot and the 3 ball made in Efren's pocket by Shannon into Shannon's side of the trough.
These announcers struggle to keep up. Thanks for clarification
what a great match... this is about as good as it gets... i love one hole
one pocket is much more fun and exciting to play than to watch. i prefer to watch 9 ball but this game in particular was exciting. Shannon played amazingly. never seen anyone play such great one pocket
A great match to watch and they both played excellent..
♥♥ Billy (the commentator) was wrong about the first game. Shannon was the only player to pocket balls in the first game. He pocketed 9 balls - one of which went into Efren's pocket (which Efren had owed because he had taken an intentional foul, earlier). The other 8 balls were pocketed by Shannon into his own pocket.
Funny listening to the commentators subtly sword-fighting... Billy's ego is obnoxious.
well what I meant was is that he keeps going on in discussions. There is even a point in which the other commentator is very polite: giving him all the respect, respecting his opinion and all that. and the other guy just keeps going, And then the other guy just decides to deescalate by naming all the sponsors!
Ofcourse his opinion is one of the most valuable, since he has been world champion but he should work a bit on commentating TOGETHER.
One of the best matches you will ever see.
14:56 Maybe the greatest One Pocket shot ever! Efrens a boss
hats off to the fact that snooker newbs never troll one-pocket matches. Thank god
Luiz Sudbrack , Jewelry
This match deserves better than 240p.
In conclusion: really enjoyed watching and both the commentators since I now understand a fair bit of the game.
Billy is always great especially his stories because u know they r all true my favorite is how he and Mike Siegel met Earl Strickland the first time lol
wait how? was it mentioned in this vid?
Man o' man! This was some world class one-pocket!!
I've never heard of one pocket before, but this is bloody brilliant. A tactical minefield, with rising tension before a release of fireworks. I'll have to give this game a go...
Regarding the thing about the 3 ball and the commentators thinking the score was wrong... Efren owed a ball... When he pocketed the 3 ball, he spotted the 7 ball. No big deal. So... Daulton moved the 3 ball to his side and the score is correct.
Yeah the 3 ball was made in Efrens pocket but Efren spotted up the 7 ball which was Shannons, no big deal.
THE WRITING OF THE COMMENTARY HAS COVERED MOST OF THE PLAY
i enjoyed the story more than the video.......
CONGRATS, CANNON. That was IMPRESSIVE! I'm glad that you mentioned that even a guy like you has a hard time making a living playing pool these days. It needed said back then and to this day!
@49:10 nice shot
THat THREE BALL BLAST WAS SICK!
what year is this played ,.,,,,, and the video is pretty blurry but are thoose 4 inch pockets
@carneyfex ... Like the 8 ball IPT tour format. 9 ball is televisable because of its short races. In a game of one pocket, it could take hours.
This is a great match! I love the game of one pocket because it is so much more challenging for me than 9-ball or 8-ball. Anyways, it is pretty crazy to see Efren take a loss..
I have this match on dvd.....Billy can't quit praising Efren ....Shannon plays so good he has Efren dogging,playing tentivly....& Billy had a ringside seat for it
Yep.
The reason it takes so long is that you never want to give the opponent a chance to start a run. That is why the shots for the first 30 minutes were all defensive (putting the cue ball near the other shooter's pocket.) You want unobstructed balls near your pocket so when the other player sells out you can run out.
Where the score pls.not seen
How true
amazing one pocket player
what wonderful match, I loved efren play at 1.45 amazing.
I do.. One pocket is a defensive game.. Each player has a pocket at the foot of the table, and the idea is to shoot offensively at your hole, trying to make 8 balls (which is a majority of the 15) before your opponent does, with the caveat that you leave nothing offensive for your opponent to shoot at when your inning ends.. So, it's about positioning, and setting traps.. But also, it's about risk/reward evaluation, meaning, if you have a 7-1 lead in balls, there's no need to risk a tough shot..
4:35 Well Said! :D
Actually in games such as one pocket, snooker and straight pool they use a safety break for various reasons. Right now we are watching one pocket, its a game in which each player has one designated pocket in which they are allowed to pot balls. The design of the break is to put a few balls out in front of your pocket leaving most of the rack in tact while no balls are in front of your opponents pocket and the cue ball is at the other end of the table.
yeah..me too
It's been a while since I've seen a closed bridge cue hold. I normally see open bridge techniques. I play snooker so, I've also played 14.1 (Straight Pool), 8 ball, 9 ball, and Carom. I've never played One Pocket I know the rules yet this is my first time watching it.
Watch the movie "Turn the River" for a little better understanding of the game. Although the movie is obviously made under the assumption that everybody understands "one pocket", it makes it a little clearer. After that, look up "one pocket rules" on Yahoo! or your favorite search engine. It's really not that difficult to understand....
i could imagine practising this game would do wonders for delicate finesse shots that are far less frequently played in 9-ball
@ljcayie it is called "one pocket". at break time, a player picks one of the lower two pockets as his pocket. the objective of the game is to make 8 balls in "your pocket" before your opponent makes 8 in his. a ball made in your opponent's pocket counts as a ball for them.
if a ball is made in the other four pockets, it gets spotted back.
if a foul occurs, you spot one of your balls. if you have none, you will "owe" one.
Watched the first half. So far, Dalton get out of Efren's traps using great imagination and execution. The best example of how to escape traps that I have seen.
Oh yeah One pocket with efren and Daulton, that can't get any better!
Thz IPm!
great billy incardona story!
Ha! Some of those names are classic. Only in Pool does one find true characters. Remember "Cornbread Red"?
exactly
Start 10:51
49:02 - what a shot to get out of trouble
How the fuck do you even do something like that on purpose? Geez Louise.
@ljcayie if you make a ball in the same time as committing a foul, that ball spots, and you still have to spot one of your own.
a ball must contact the rail after the cue ball strikes a ball. sometimes people take intentional fouls so they do not give their opponent a shot.
@rstar88105 ive played golf pool before and im a one pocket player trust me it is really tough. But it is very fun
@anphelps27 does that make the same 5 people who make it to the world series final table in poker the 5 luckiest people in the whole tournament?... pool is all skill i agree but poker does require skill to an extent
one pocket! yes!
I just learned a lot.
What kind of game is this??? CAN'T UNDERSTAND IT :( :(
My 1st time seeing this? What are the rules for this?
Cont.. And consequently, if the score is not in your favor, say if you're down 6-2, or 7-3, or even 5-1 (ball count), then it may be in your best interest to shoot aggressively, to turn the game around..
It's a gambling game, and it allows for a wide range of handicaps to match different levels of player.. One of my favorite ways to play is with the backgammon cube, which allows me to "offer the cube" to my opponent, if I like the situation.. forcing him to quit, or double the bet..
Can someone clarify something about Billy's story? When he said Efren gave him "the 7 AND the 10" playing 10 ball. I know what getting the 7 is, but isn't getting the 10 already a given since it's the money ball for both players?
When gambling playing one pocket the player giving a spot must pocket more balls. Playing 10/7 means Efren has to make 10 balls in his pocket and Billy has to make 7 in his pocket. The first two balls that Efren pockets are spotted (after he finishes his inning). Thus more than 15 balls are in play.
how does billy tolerate? he's a saint!!!!
that one commentaryguy is doing nothing but trying to convince the other commentator he knows more about one pocketpool.
great movie btw. I now understand the game and it was fun to watch. for more than 2 hrs!
You have to wonder how they can be going on about the 3 ball when the 7 ball that was the first ball pocketed was sitting on the table. Reyes owed a ball and the 7 ball was spotted. Does it get any easier?
@hammerknocker31649 You are right man. But what I meant by lazy was something dif. When I learned to play I would go into the room at 1pm and start doing drills for atleast 4-5 hours 3-4x a week. And I was not the only one doing them. When is the last time you walked into a room and saw more than one guy drilling consistently? To some the purpose of gambling is to strictly make $. For me it was to c who could hold up under the pressure. Its not bout how much u have. cont...
Shannon is great but i saw him lose to a guy named kevin from texas. At breakers in knoxville tn
No, my location is irrelevant. I have a great deal with both games having played pool since I was 12 and poker since I was 13 or so. The comparison shouldn't be even made and I don't understand why it is being made..... If anything compare pool to golf
Why does billy incardona know everything but cant perform for nothin. He sounds like a therapist or something...he uses way too many words to describe the smallest things. but THUMBS UP to the match!
Are you kidding with me 14:58
@gix500 this is one pocket pool, google it
Lol Cesar Romales??? Lol MORALES ya mean haha. Good stuff
Road name? The only road that Efren can travel without being known is somewhere in the Antarctic.
I don't know which commentator is Joey and which one is Billy but I after the second match its funny how they started slightly arguing about what the player will shot.
One is a good player the other is an amateur.
The guy asking the occassional question and comments about everything not pool is the amateur named joey but the guy explain in detail stuff is billy incardona. He is probably the best announcer ever in pool. Great player from back in the day. More known for big action than tourney play. Very knowledgable. He knows what he is talking about most of the time.
@carneyfex i totally agree with you that 9 pool is rubbish. As an amateur player like myself, I play it for the fun factor but for professionals its rather low, and winning short race 9ball tourneys isn't the basis of great skill and talent. That's why players like Reyes would sometimes easily lose. If all the balls pocketed in 9 ball, including the 9 on the break are called in, then and only then that I will have respect for the game. I'd rather prefer 8ball, long races,round robin matches lik
One day there will be a Hollywood Movie about the Greatest Pool Player in the world. And there will be an Efren Reyes Cup with no jump cues allowed.
@bluesruley2k...Ok..I take that back....I have absolutely NO idea what they are doing here!
@searspunch you stole my comment!
@GypsieChris For sure brother. All pool is is a grind and you cant win anything. Everyone want to bet 20 and win 1000. I beat a guy our of 40 bux the the other day and he went nuts, but right after that he went and sat down at the poker game and lost 400 and. (We have a poker game in our poolk hall) I know that there is a skill factor in poker, but the luck factor outways the skill. (not in the long run) The only way the skill factor counts is if you play with the same people everyday
I seen daultion in local pool hall in Cincinnati great player. but reyes did not play that well. long run take reyes for the money. I don't know about Billy story beating reyes. They change cloth middle of night he broke and every time he made multiple balls. race to 21 And gets 3 on they wire but he said he one 21 to 4 when he only needs 18 it sound like a fish story. .
Haha, at 2:22:47 is says "Shannon 'The Cannon' Reyes - WINNER." Talk about a typo...
@wizrun1 I dont think they are but Efren is a professional player. He is one of the best in the world and to see him mess up fairly routine shots is uncharacteristic for him. I also am a fellow one pocket player and you just cant make mistakes that he made. It would be ok at my level cuz im not that great.
@GypsieChris Ok, let me say it like this. Nothing takes place of experience, but in a game of poker, you can be in a certain position with certain cards and make a play you consider to be correct and win. Repeat that same situation and change ur opponents cards and you could lose. Skill falls into poker when you play with the same people all the time. Going to sit down at a new table, your flipping a coin more or less. THERE IS SOMEONE NEW EVERY YEAR ON TV WINNING SOMETHING.
dunno..ive seen hundreds of thousands of dollars won and lost in a couple hours in pool.a gambler is a gambler no matter what game it is.
@GypsieChris Poker and pool are not even close to the same. Poker is luck and you can win after playing cards for a week, as pool it takes a few years. Why in pro poker tourneys half of the pros are knocked out. That has never happened in pool.
"He was playing the violin" billy incardona
"Ummhmmm" the drinking game! What fun!
Efren's.." He got lucky" is used to fool those with opponents with bloated ego.
He had the angle. He just didn't hit with enough left english.
@anphelps27 umad?
@anphelps27 i agree with everything you just said *sigh* but, Im proud to be one of the lesser statistics
Cesar Romales???????
sanjursan morales
Annoying listening to these clowns go on about the 3 ball for 2 games. Shannon banked the 7 then put the 3 in Reyes pocket. Reyes owed one and spotted Shannon's 7 so Shannon took Reyes 3.
Joey H I thought I was the only one that caught that
shit dude this is crazy!. im still a beginner playin with a 20$ walmart stick at local bars with my buddy, and this stuff is rediculous. Love it though.
When Efren bets against himself....
Her game is very slow, shanon if you can not play sleep
joey a acts like he knows the way to shoot. really!
How the fuck are you going to compare poker to pool, poker is a mind game that focuses on smarts, and pool is a skill game that focuses on finess
@ntnrocket : hahahah.. agree. battle of brains....chess of pool!
i love it when the commentator stutters (his only job is to talk and he cannot do it right) and the MC is like a mummy...it is a shame that great matches like this can be ruined by the "extras"
I'm going to go out on a limb and ask if you have enough pool ability to truly comment and compare the two. You wouldn't happen to live in Los Angeles, would you?
commentators story at 214 about cheating Reyes is disgusting but he thjought it was funny , sad man.
32:40: "I don't like it" LOOOL!! nice shot, shannon!