I just bought the ex8, and I brought it to Brazil. I'm liking it here. There are lots of mountain options to pedal. here in Brazil this bike costs $ 5,000 and I paid for it in long island NY $ 2500
Hi, I have a question about the change of the fork with a larger jump, I read that the bike ex fuel with a 29-inch wheel can be put up with a 140 mm shock absorber, and the use of a larger one is associated with the loss of warranty on the rame, is it true?
Found this channel by accident.... great review. In the process of upgrading my 2012 Fuel Ex 8 26er with either the 2018 Fuel Ex 8 29er or the 2018 Remedy 8 27.5... still can’t decide.
Hey man! Glad you found me and thanks for the props! The Remedy for sure will be the easiest transition for you since the wheel size isn't as drastic as a step. Also wheel size aside they are both in separate categories in my opinion. The Fuel EX 29er is a tried and true trail bike that can be tweaked to handle a bit more aggressive trails. The Remedy out of the box will be build to handle more with its slacker angles and more travel. The Remedy and the Slash would be a more Equal comparison and with that it will really come down to riding style and wheel size preference. I know 29er is pretty hot right now but try not to get too sucked into what trends are trying to tell you.
Like the format. Nice job with the different camera shots. Keep up the good work. Oh yeah..not criticizing but the audio in you basement/garage could be polished a bit. Audio is always tuff.
Cool format, maybe a bit more on the bike footage. Bike specs audio from the studio with video from the climb maybe? Nice to know on each bike if it's threaded bb or not and what size water bottle would fit. Really cool showing footage of the suspension travel as well as the pedal Bob etc off the bike footage, pretty unique from what I've seen.
Great feedback. I have done comparisons where I highlight those things but I can see the value of that being in every review. Thank you for the feedback!
Just found this channel, liked and subbed right away, plus, I get inspiration from other MTB creators like you for my channel. Keep up the great work kid.
I test all bikes in large unless I can't find them. It fit great as an everyday trail bike. I did the trance 29 in large as well and have the same thoughts for sizing
It was pretty stiff for me i mean i am 164 pounds to but i was about to do this 8 foot drop and i slowed down and cased it and that suspension saved my lifs
Fuel ex8 is a pretty good value. Sounds like it could have benefited from a stiffer fork. The new pike based revelation may have been A good fit at this price point.
Its a great value. This and the Giant trance cant get much better. I think the overall stiffness of the frame though definitely highlights the forks lack of stiffness. Pike for sure would have been much better.
I would have to say the Trance 29. The geometry of the bike is just so good that you can really ride hard confidently. The Trek isn't far off but in my opinion the Trance is that much better.
Bike|ariously thank you always for replying Im still really searching and looking for different reviews on bikes before pulling the trigger but im getting inclined to the trance because of its good review and feed back among who already have it. Once again cheers and and appreciate a lot on what you put in to your channel plus replying back to us it means a lot, some youtubers just cant be bothered answering questions but not all. Good work and God bless!! 🤙🏽
Hey I appreciate that a lot. I do my best to answer every question if I can. The Trance is a great bike and to validate that even more, our local LBS pro just did a 10hr marathon race with one and said he did his fastest laps ever with it.
@@danielforto Depending on the severity of the scratches I would say thats a pretty good deal. As long as nothing structural is compromised you will be fine.
@@RideEatWander turns out that the wheel and rim set and rear suspension were swapped with the ex9 2017 model. I wonder if i won the swap since the ex9 2017 is $4000 compared to ex7 2018 $2500. Yeah the scratches are small, bearable. Just cosmetics and some rusts on some small screw parts. What do you think?
The wheels are a worthy upgrade for sure. I don't think the shock changed that much but yes overall I think you are getting a great package per the price.
I compared this bike intensively to a 2018 Giant Trance 1.5. like them both but bought the Trance. Both weigh the same and behaved similarly when riding. Reasons speaking against the Trek are that 1 I sit way too far in the front due to the bike being short - it is a 19.5", I am 6'2" 2 the knockblock 3 the GX Eagle didn't shift well, although that may be a matter of tuning.
Ya the Trek has a longer stem and also shorter fork so that is probably where you get that feeling. The Trek is a true trail bike where the Trance is almost like a mini Reign. I never had issues with the knockblock but I can see where it could falter. Your eagle set up probably just needed some tuning as it felt almost identical to my XO Cheers!
@@JoeORMERO They weighed exactly the same - Trance 1.5 in L, F Ex8 in 19.5. Anyway, as the latter felt a bit short for me, the 21.5 should have been compared which then is heavier then the Trance. PS: I also met someone who said that a lot of people tend to bigger sizes with Trek in general.
Next time I'm in Spokane, gonna hit you up for a ride. My parents moved out there and I wanna explore their territory. I live in in Santa Cruz, CA. If you're up for it of course :)
I think the rear is too short, the chainstay is too short, the wheelbase is too short, the head angle is too steep. and of course these things will make the bike less stable than desired. at least they got enough room for the 2.3 tyres. on my 2014 Fuel EX there was not enough room, both tyre flex and flex from chainstay and BB area movement would cause the tyre to rub. I see everything is beafier too. my 2014 Fuel EX is horrendous, but got some decent components, the new frame looks stiffer for sure, but I don't like their chainstay to Evo link pivot, I would put Double shear joint there instead of single shear. but the new bike is in the plans, but I haven't made a decision on a frame yet. probalby Pole Evolink or Nicolai G
Absolutely. I hold the opinion that no bike is too much for anyone. Sure it may have parts that one doesn't need or someone just wants to flash the most expensive build but in my experience, if you know you are going to be dedicated to mountain biking, don't get stuck getting a bike you will have to replace after a year. You will grow into anything you purchase as long as you buy the closest suitable bike for the kind of trails you want to ride.
That's the one I'm looking at, the 2018 Trek Stache 5... I have an orange colored 2018 Trek Marlin 6, it's a nice entry level trail bike, I use it for commute more often than trail riding, but that Stache 5 is on my must get list for sure, that's where the real trail riding will begin... But in any case thanks for the excellent review demo, my enthusiasm on this bike is even more sparked, thanks...👍
I got 32 forks with grip damper & 2018 CSU on my bike, I can feel the flex on my frok, when riding hard, I think I will need 35mm fork. Sram Centerline ortors have to go! they are very noisy. I think it's the big oval shaped ventign holes on the braking surface that is causing this, horrible design. I haven't tried the wheels this ibke has, but on previous budget wheels the spoke nipples were weak and like made of cheese, 32 spokes would be nice, but htey stuck with 28 spokes. also I don't know if it's easy to take tyres off these rims or not, but previous BOntrager rims LIke Duster were horrendous, you had to use your feet & stomp the tyre out of the roove.
Yes this bike needs a stiff fork to be ridden hard especially if you are north of 200 which I am. I have recently switched to Galfer brake pads and really like them. No noise that I have noticed and good bite and power.
I asked a rep at a demo day, he said deals with warranties and he said 150 is the limit. I've got 150 fox rhythm forks on mine. It works well apart from the front wheel lifting occasionally on steep climbs.
The Stache and the Full Stache are pretty different bikes compared to the Fuel EX. If you are looking to do more adventure riding I would say Stache all the way. If you want to be able to be more aggressive and precise I would do the Fuel EX. You can get some fairly wide tires in the Fuel EX.
You'd be very hard-pressed to get a $3,500 bike with decent suspension under 30 lbs. Please show me comparable bikes with same or better suspension that way less that doesn't cost more than 3,500 because I'm very interested to buy a bike like that 👍
@@archetypex65 It's a nice bike I looked at it at the trek dealer but wasn't ready to spend that much on a bike yet. I ended up with a 2018 giant trance 2 (29.5lbs) I understand the extra weight comes from the bigger wheels on the trek. A new trance costs 2900 but I got a three month old one from a friend in perfect condition for 1800. My next bike will be full carbon
@@nevvanclarke9225 it definitely helps to lose weight but it's not the same. Try riding a 40lb bike when you're 170 on the trails and then try riding a 30lb bike when you're 180. It won't be the same not to mention it's a lot easier to bunny hop and throw around a lighter bike.
I would not call thsi bike a great bike, but I would not call most of the bikes on the market great, I got high standards msot bikes don't reach. most bikes won't fit me well, most bikes will nto be as stable as I would like, or soemthign is wrogn with the frame design, or geometry.
Bikes are very subjective to the end user. I have to make sure I am being as objective as possible for the masses and try not to let my preferences in my bike set up dictate how I find a bike for others.
I just bought the ex8, and I brought it to Brazil. I'm liking it here. There are lots of mountain options to pedal. here in Brazil this bike costs $ 5,000 and I paid for it in long island NY $ 2500
Nice. I would like to get out of the country and ride some. What kind of riding is there in Brazil?
Glad I found your video great footage and review. Exactly what I was looking for.
Thank you Omar!
Nice footage, nice that you show the tyre clearance, the suspension system.
Thank you!
I threw a pike 150mm on mine and it was such a huge upgrade. whole new bike highly recommend it.
That bike could handle near anything with that set up. Thats awesome!
Hi, I have a question about the change of the fork with a larger jump, I read that the bike ex fuel with a 29-inch wheel can be put up with a 140 mm shock absorber, and the use of a larger one is associated with the loss of warranty on the rame, is it true?
Found this channel by accident.... great review.
In the process of upgrading my 2012 Fuel Ex 8 26er with either the 2018 Fuel Ex 8 29er or the 2018 Remedy 8 27.5... still can’t decide.
Hey man! Glad you found me and thanks for the props! The Remedy for sure will be the easiest transition for you since the wheel size isn't as drastic as a step. Also wheel size aside they are both in separate categories in my opinion. The Fuel EX 29er is a tried and true trail bike that can be tweaked to handle a bit more aggressive trails. The Remedy out of the box will be build to handle more with its slacker angles and more travel. The Remedy and the Slash would be a more Equal comparison and with that it will really come down to riding style and wheel size preference. I know 29er is pretty hot right now but try not to get too sucked into what trends are trying to tell you.
Glad to see u back man. Keep it up your channel has serious potential!
Thank you Carson! Hope to be ramping things up for the season!
I dug this new format!
fernandorat ikr
Great! Thank you for the feedback!
I rented one of those out a week ago for some test and it really nice. My friend rented a other one but we were just sending it down the hills
its a great bike. It's what I imagine a 29er trance could feel like. just needs a stiff front fork.
Like the format. Nice job with the different camera shots. Keep up the good work. Oh yeah..not criticizing but the audio in you basement/garage could be polished a bit. Audio is always tuff.
Cool format, maybe a bit more on the bike footage. Bike specs audio from the studio with video from the climb maybe? Nice to know on each bike if it's threaded bb or not and what size water bottle would fit. Really cool showing footage of the suspension travel as well as the pedal Bob etc off the bike footage, pretty unique from what I've seen.
Great feedback. I have done comparisons where I highlight those things but I can see the value of that being in every review. Thank you for the feedback!
Great video and thank you for the information!
You are welcome!
Just found this channel, liked and subbed right away, plus, I get inspiration from other MTB creators like you for my channel. Keep up the great work kid.
Thanks man!
i have this bike and love it. im 6'5 250 lbs. i an 11x system and run Maxxis Minion DHF11 tires.
Nice! I could see this bike totally ripping with DHF tires.
Awesome Review.... Awesome Format...
Hey Thank you!
What size did you test? I’m 6’ with 32 inseam and ended up with the XL 21.5... I’m itching to get the Trance 29er
I test all bikes in large unless I can't find them. It fit great as an everyday trail bike. I did the trance 29 in large as well and have the same thoughts for sizing
Those are nice. we have a TREK store in Boise now
Nice! I am from Boise so I will have to check it out next time i visit.
It was pretty stiff for me i mean i am 164 pounds to but i was about to do this 8 foot drop and i slowed down and cased it and that suspension saved my lifs
Ya I have 40 pounds on you!
Great video and a lifetime warranty on Trek, which is nice.
Agreed! and thank you for the props!
Better than specialized epic in my opinion.
Epic is 100mm xc bike
Fuel ex8 is a pretty good value. Sounds like it could have benefited from a stiffer fork. The new pike based revelation may have been A good fit at this price point.
Its a great value. This and the Giant trance cant get much better. I think the overall stiffness of the frame though definitely highlights the forks lack of stiffness. Pike for sure would have been much better.
Hi mate.. which one would you pick between the trance 29er and this Trek and why? TIA 🤙🏽
I would have to say the Trance 29. The geometry of the bike is just so good that you can really ride hard confidently. The Trek isn't far off but in my opinion the Trance is that much better.
Bike|ariously thank you always for replying Im still really searching and looking for different reviews on bikes before pulling the trigger but im getting inclined to the trance because of its good review and feed back among who already have it. Once again cheers and and appreciate a lot on what you put in to your channel plus replying back to us it means a lot, some youtubers just cant be bothered answering questions but not all. Good work and God bless!! 🤙🏽
Hey I appreciate that a lot. I do my best to answer every question if I can. The Trance is a great bike and to validate that even more, our local LBS pro just did a 10hr marathon race with one and said he did his fastest laps ever with it.
Bike|ariously wow thats even more great. Yeah man im gonna pull the trigger on the T29 thanks and il update you as soon as I get my hands on it. 👍🏽
Look forward to hearing back
Im getting a EX7 2018 in used condition with some wear, scratches. Is it a good deal for $1540?
All parts stock otherwise?
@@RideEatWander all parts are stock except for the handlebar.
@@danielforto Depending on the severity of the scratches I would say thats a pretty good deal. As long as nothing structural is compromised you will be fine.
@@RideEatWander turns out that the wheel and rim set and rear suspension were swapped with the ex9 2017 model. I wonder if i won the swap since the ex9 2017 is $4000 compared to ex7 2018 $2500. Yeah the scratches are small, bearable. Just cosmetics and some rusts on some small screw parts. What do you think?
The wheels are a worthy upgrade for sure. I don't think the shock changed that much but yes overall I think you are getting a great package per the price.
I compared this bike intensively to a 2018 Giant Trance 1.5. like them both but bought the Trance. Both weigh the same and behaved similarly when riding. Reasons speaking against the Trek are that
1 I sit way too far in the front due to the bike being short - it is a 19.5", I am 6'2"
2 the knockblock
3 the GX Eagle didn't shift well, although that may be a matter of tuning.
Ya the Trek has a longer stem and also shorter fork so that is probably where you get that feeling. The Trek is a true trail bike where the Trance is almost like a mini Reign. I never had issues with the knockblock but I can see where it could falter. Your eagle set up probably just needed some tuning as it felt almost identical to my XO
Cheers!
Yogy W-man trance is lighter I believe?
@@JoeORMERO They weighed exactly the same - Trance 1.5 in L, F Ex8 in 19.5. Anyway, as the latter felt a bit short for me, the 21.5 should have been compared which then is heavier then the Trance. PS: I also met someone who said that a lot of people tend to bigger sizes with Trek in general.
Cool bike but I like the Remedy better. Thanks for the video :)
Ill be getting to the Remedy soon! Thank you!
Next time I'm in Spokane, gonna hit you up for a ride. My parents moved out there and I wanna explore their territory. I live in in Santa Cruz, CA. If you're up for it of course :)
Hey that would be awesome. Hit me up on instagram or email me directly at Bikeariously@gmail.com. Lots of great riding to be had up here!
I think the rear is too short, the chainstay is too short, the wheelbase is too short, the head angle is too steep. and of course these things will make the bike less stable than desired.
at least they got enough room for the 2.3 tyres.
on my 2014 Fuel EX there was not enough room, both tyre flex and flex from chainstay and BB area movement would cause the tyre to rub.
I see everything is beafier too. my 2014 Fuel EX is horrendous, but got some decent components, the new frame looks stiffer for sure, but I don't like their chainstay to Evo link pivot, I would put Double shear joint there instead of single shear.
but the new bike is in the plans, but I haven't made a decision on a frame yet. probalby Pole Evolink or Nicolai G
The Pole seems like a very interesting bike. I would like to try on of those as well!
Is that a good bike for in between beginner
Absolutely. I hold the opinion that no bike is too much for anyone. Sure it may have parts that one doesn't need or someone just wants to flash the most expensive build but in my experience, if you know you are going to be dedicated to mountain biking, don't get stuck getting a bike you will have to replace after a year. You will grow into anything you purchase as long as you buy the closest suitable bike for the kind of trails you want to ride.
Still love the bike ?
Yes I do. It is a very balanced bike and more than enough for almost everyone.
That's the one I'm looking at, the 2018 Trek Stache 5...
I have an orange colored 2018 Trek Marlin 6, it's a nice entry level trail bike, I use it for commute more often than trail riding, but that Stache 5 is on my must get list for sure, that's where the real trail riding will begin...
But in any case thanks for the excellent review demo, my enthusiasm on this bike is even more sparked, thanks...👍
Hey CleyDog you are very welcome. Its a great bike for sure and I know you will like it. If you have any questions on it please let me know.
And I'm a new subscriber by the way...
Thank You! I am happy you find the content worth your while!
How much this bike $
Trek lists this currently for $3249USD. That can be different though depending on currency and Bike shop sales.
I have this bike with the 140mm rhythm 34. I have the Mino Link set in the low mode and it’s a beast at my local trail.
It's a great bike for sure. I have a buddy that raced one and crushed everything with it.
I got 32 forks with grip damper & 2018 CSU on my bike, I can feel the flex on my frok, when riding hard, I think I will need 35mm fork.
Sram Centerline ortors have to go! they are very noisy. I think it's the big oval shaped ventign holes on the braking surface that is causing this, horrible design.
I haven't tried the wheels this ibke has, but on previous budget wheels the spoke nipples were weak and like made of cheese, 32 spokes would be nice, but htey stuck with 28 spokes.
also I don't know if it's easy to take tyres off these rims or not, but previous BOntrager rims LIke Duster were horrendous, you had to use your feet & stomp the tyre out of the roove.
Yes this bike needs a stiff fork to be ridden hard especially if you are north of 200 which I am. I have recently switched to Galfer brake pads and really like them. No noise that I have noticed and good bite and power.
Hi what size is that frame and how tall are you??
Cheers
Large and I am 6 foot.
Warning for the tuning advice. The warranty isn't covered when you use a 150mm fork, Treks maximum allowed length is 140mm.
That's great information thank you!
I asked a rep at a demo day, he said deals with warranties and he said 150 is the limit. I've got 150 fox rhythm forks on mine. It works well apart from the front wheel lifting occasionally on steep climbs.
Great update with that information thank you!
Bro Stache or This? I'm torn between
The Stache and the Full Stache are pretty different bikes compared to the Fuel EX. If you are looking to do more adventure riding I would say Stache all the way. If you want to be able to be more aggressive and precise I would do the Fuel EX. You can get some fairly wide tires in the Fuel EX.
nice video, music a bit distracting
Thank you for the feedback. Always appreciated.
You know Treks suspension design is NOT a single pivot.
Maybe not entirely no but it is close.
Nice bike but about 2-3 lbs too heavy for the price tag. At 3500 I would definetly want a trail bike that is not over 30 lbs.
Kris Simon easy to lose weight in our body ...everyone bangs on about bike weight but if we drop our weight ...same same.
You'd be very hard-pressed to get a $3,500 bike with decent suspension under 30 lbs. Please show me comparable bikes with same or better suspension that way less that doesn't cost more than 3,500 because I'm very interested to buy a bike like that 👍
@@archetypex65 It's a nice bike I looked at it at the trek dealer but wasn't ready to spend that much on a bike yet. I ended up with a 2018 giant trance 2 (29.5lbs) I understand the extra weight comes from the bigger wheels on the trek. A new trance costs 2900 but I got a three month old one from a friend in perfect condition for 1800. My next bike will be full carbon
@@nevvanclarke9225 it definitely helps to lose weight but it's not the same. Try riding a 40lb bike when you're 170 on the trails and then try riding a 30lb bike when you're 180. It won't be the same not to mention it's a lot easier to bunny hop and throw around a lighter bike.
2lb you can't feel I shit more than that.
I would not call thsi bike a great bike, but I would not call most of the bikes on the market great, I got high standards msot bikes don't reach.
most bikes won't fit me well, most bikes will nto be as stable as I would like, or soemthign is wrogn with the frame design, or geometry.
Bikes are very subjective to the end user. I have to make sure I am being as objective as possible for the masses and try not to let my preferences in my bike set up dictate how I find a bike for others.
fit is important, not every one will fit every bike well. but for me most brands won't fit properly.