@@meow1990_2 and how many times do you have to open your jet up before each flight? Semi annual and annual checks: avionics, engines, control surface cables, fuel lines and other things, yes you need to pay someone for that, this things aren't done before each flight, this type of in depth overhauls take hours, days and even weeks, this is not done before each flight lol. You aren't sending a rocket in to the moon, before each flight what you would do is your regular walk around, basic maintenance check list that even you can do as a pilot, fuel, landing and parking fees pretty much is all you need to worry about if you are heading and landing somewhere else.
It's honestly shocking that they can be bought for so little. They're literally less than most 2 story homes, and while you can sleep in a Draken cockpit, you can't make a house go over mock2
Sorry to hear that. The F4 is quite a machine, I had one as an Airfix model, pride and place in my collection when I were a kid, great looking aircraft. :-) Joe
@@AviationRepublic An F4J with J79-10 engine . Ran these up on the flight deck many a night. It was a very forgiving bird. Lots of maintainance hours per flight hour.. But it would take a beating...
The old Mig 15's were going for only ~$30k (AUD) a few years back. Getting one with a reliable (not forged) maintenance record was the hard part ... oh, and a working ejector seat!
You don’t want to fly Mig 15s. They have the nasty habit of not being able to pull out of a dive. Plus they have an abrupt stall characteristic. You need to fly that jet fast so you can only fly out of long runways. Same with MiG 21s. It’s the hourly costs of fuel and maintenance that will wipe out your savings account.
I'd love to have the Draken, but I love living more, so Skyhawk. Also, I'm pretty sure I'd get whatever the FAA equivalent is to a speeding ticket for going supersonic somewhere I shouldn't.
@@AviationRepublic The Draken has a really deadly stall behavior that would probably kill you before you had to worry about the bills. It was so bad that the Saab put a dull knife on the joystick so pilots would let go of the stick when the stall vibration started.
But what a good looking aircraft. I have it on my list of planes to cover, Although not sure if anyone wants a 40 minute mini documentary on such a stunning plane. One way to find out I suppose.
I've long felt the Phantom F4 is the jet I want to own. It has such unusual body contours and can go Mach-2. Moreover, parts should still be available as it is used by some air forces.
She has to be one of the most beautiful design ever, there is one in my local museum, they have opened the cockpit for visitors to peer into, beast of a machine.
MIG 15, MIG 19, MIG 21, Gloster Meteor, F4, Phantom (Still in Iranian service ATM) DeHavilland Vampire, Hawker Hunter, English Electric Lightning, Shooting Star, Hawker Harrier, Folland Gnat, The list goes on and on.. We have a friend who has a Mig 21!
There are so many, but I only included jets which were for sale at the time I was researching the script. I might write another covering a whole bunch more jets, but I have some other cold war jet videos I am working on first. I will get there.
If you don't care about fuel and maintenance, you can pick up a non turbo Cessna 310 for $40k which is about 1/3 the price of a comparable Baron or C210. The L39 requires the compensation package of a GM vice chairman.
“BuNo” is an abbreviation for “Bureau Number” which is similar to a registration or N number on a civilian aircraft. However, no one calls it “BuNo” or “B.U.N.O.” Other than that, nice summary of military aircraft for sale on Controller.
Me not being jealous.....But I bet that was some experience, one day if and when I finally crack this TH-cam malarkey, I might be able to afford something more glamorous than 30 minutes in a C150 :-) Joe
@@AviationRepublic Understandable your point of view. Flying is expensive, I have just retired as an A320 airline captain and can tell you that and goes from the training to the end of the flight at the gate. I flied for 43 years.
At 6:31 MIG-21 You said its engine was, "non-afterbirning", and that it could fly at 1,390 mph. That is quite a bit faster than the speed of sound, and the mig-21 was not a super cruising fighter jet!! That probably goes doubly for the trainer version.... Oh, and getting you to heaven faster than a homesick angel?? The airplane was known for an extremely high rate of takeoff and landing accidents.... Now I will go back to the video....
I worked on the f-4c gun in early to mid seventies. So I can't be absolutely certain, but at the time, I was told, there were several hanger queens and several that couldn't fly. These were always breaking down and leaking red oil so we always referred to them as bleeding. The fly to maintenance ratio was bad and I suppose one would need to find a lot of test equipment and buy lots of spares. The f-16 was supposed to end that ratio, if it did I don't know. However, if I had billions in the bank I would definitely buy an f-4.
It has always been a question on my mind why some machines are just plagued with issues and an "Identical" one is 100% reliable. I once read that cars built on Friday afternoons would be the least reliable. How true that is, who knows. You are 100% correct, If I had the cash to buy any of these aircraft, I would most definitely have the cash to run them correctly, spares and all - :- )Joe
@@AviationRepublic I lived in Detroit for a while back in the 1970's. The advice then was to buy a car made on a Wednesday because the workers would take Monday/Tuesday off or Thursday/Friday off so they could have 4 day weekends. --This meant that they had to hire unqualified people (such as high school students) to work on the assembly lines for those periods, resulting in faulty automobiles.
The F-4 Phantom, would be my selection. Though in Royal Navy 892 Squardon Fleet Air Arm, HMS Ark Royal, FG.1 Phanton colour scheme of the 1978's too. Having an airworthy flying Phantom F-4, for the Air Show circuit in the UK and Europe, would be great. As well as offering one off VIP flights, for one paid passenger in the rear seat. That is to people who could afford, 10 to 15 Thousand Pounds, for a 30 to 40 minute flight. To help raise necessary money, for the Phantom on-going maintenance and operational costs etc.
Actually, from a Swedish speaker, draken means the kite. It was given this name because its delta wing shape in the air resembled a kite. It has literally nothing to do with dragons. But yes, draken can also mean the dragon when used in proper context.
Loads of technical/factual inaccuracies here so not one to particularly enjoy if you’re already into military jets, but a fun watch for the unfamiliar!
You could just park it on your front lawn. There is a house in Kent, England that has a (I guess) replica Spitfire on the front approach to the house. Couple of great paint jobs in the video
You are correct, I was supposed to write "11,870 pounds-force with afterburner" than add the number after the word "afterburner", but seems I must have gotten distracted.
I’m here watching this thinking “that’s not bad” I’d choose the phantom. And as one of the comments said something the cost of a mechanic. My dad happens to be a retired air force mechanic. And worked on the phantoms in the Philippines in the mid to late 80s.
Sounds like a private airforce to me, personally I want a kit plane weighing less then 165 ibs that I can fly with out a pilots license and bring home IN my car.
The Draken (or The Kite, as is was named of) is capabel of speed more than Mach 2, they didn`t know howe fast is it, because it ran out of fuel long before it has accelerated fully out.
The Phantom II would be the right choice. My wife would also like to fly with me. The whole plane will be painted in rainbow colors, with big Peace stickers on the wings and tail. You can dream sometimes
Purchasing a plane, boat, motorhome, etc. is cheap. Maintaining them is expensive. Airplanes require annual inspections that eat up 10s of thousands of dollars each year. 10+ year old motorhomes are not allowed in motorhome parks. Boats have high maintenance and/or storage/docking costs. For each the owner has two great days. The day they buy it, and the day they sell it.
Haha, exactly, the idea of buying one of these is very appealing, the reality is probably a financial blackhole, but as the saying goes, you cant' take it with you. I did not know the about old motorhomes not being allowed in motorhome parks. Although these machines are out of my reach, it's nice to dream. :-) Joe
@@AviationRepublic as I understand the issue with the old motorhomes is people staying a while and then just abandoning the old clunker motorhome. This leaves the park stuck with the past due rent and an old motorhome with little value and expensive fees to haul it off.
How many F-4 Phantoms, did you buy? Well 16 plus spares and support equipment. I was part of a team to acquire another squadron of F-4J Phantoms after the end of the Falkland conflict. Later I was the head of the UK team that modified RAF Phantom weapons system to utilize a digital computer. And flew many sorties in the back seat. As the trial aircraft was a two-sticker, occasionally I got a chance to "drive".
@@AviationRepublic Draken was its time the most advanced jet figther #cobramanouver, and i kinda like its looks better but F4 would be my second choise💪
"Control I have a problem." "What's wrong?" "The throttle just came off in my hand. It looks like it was held together with...bubble gum!" (SQUEEEEEAAAAKKK!!!!!) "What the hell was that?!" "The tail just fell off!!"
In the picture they show a F4 Phantom. Try, at take off in burner 47,000 pounds of JP4 times two an hour. The cost of buying may not be much but the cost of flying per hour is horrendous.
1. Good luck finding a Phantom for sale. 2. And try and find people who know how to work on one and keep it airworthy. 3. And you better fly it regularly as they tend to break when parked. Spare parts? Nope. Restricted as the Iranians still phly them. And the Strikemaster... oh boy. Worked for a small company that tried to use those - including the one pictured. Fuel leaks galore. I have 2,000 Phantom hours. Never even tried to snag a ride in one of the Strikes. On the up-side, they were very simple, and had to be, given who was going to fly them and work on them.
Hands off the F4, crypto kings, she (soon to be) mine, lol. (You probably can't afford her unless your bitcoin wallet is substantially HODLed to the max anyway). That 10k/hr "running cost" estimate just barely covers fuel, if you baby her and only fly in perfect weather. Plan 35hrs of maint. per hour of flight, if you live in the 60s and she's new. The completion of the resto will cost closer to $5m than 1, according to the people who did the 80%. And being a pre-poduction unit (11th Phantom completed, in fact), she has early canopy, windscreen and a whole slew of other parts which will be impossible to replace. The USAF *might* sell you some bits for the rest which is common to the later and airforce and export airframes, but only ground up to about the consistency of coffee (not beans), so budget for a circa-1980-mid-tier design and manufacturing capability in case something breaks. On the other hand she does come with some spares, 5 engines,for instance, although J79s go boom on their own occasionally so, y'know, the stash might not last too long in practice... So yeah, come to think of it now... by all means folks, beat me to it and see if your talent for picking DeFi winners translates well to aviation. Proof of Stake means something different when its your one and only life and the investment can break up at Mach 1 at sea level if the pitch damper fails... ;)
At 13:04 Tail art.... Any chance you got more video or stills of in this general location. Talking about the pictures of the S-211. Whatever they paid the artist to paint art like that, it wasn't enough!! I would prefer to see more of the redhead it was to the side and in the background....but that was still beautiful!!
This IS a deep truth so take note..... A flying Instructor once blessed my wallet with these very wise words: *'If it Floats, Fsomething ...didn't quite catch that bit, or Flies ITS CHEAPER TO HIRE IT NOT BUY IT*
@@lcfflc3887 when I was in the Air Force Art Program I had two rides in the A37, it seemed like a great, simple little jet for somebody with a little extra coin, plus quite a few ended up in other countries where it seems they could show up in the marketplace finally
900mph on the deck sounds fast,... to everyone except an F-111 Pilot. You missed the more recent 'must have',.. the MiG-29, which will out turn all of these, and out run most.
The last fighter jet in this video: F4H-1F (F-4A) Two-seat all-weather aircraft carrier-based fighter for the US Navy & US Marines. J79-GE-2 and -2A engines with 16,100 lbs (71.6 kN) of afterburner thrust each. Named Phantom II in 1959 and redesignated F-4A in 1962; 45 built.
If ($) was no object/ The Phantom of coarse. Without a doubt. One thing though, F-4 s guzzle fuel at an alarming rate. Be sure to have a tanker waiting when getting to altitude or you'll be coming back down the hard way. I was in 2 F-4 Phantom squadrons on 2 different carriers during Viet Nam.
I owned a Northrop Talon years ago that we received in pieces and had to build to get it into a presentable state, unfortunately my mother Knocked it of the mantelpiece!
I think I'd have to buy or commission an aircraft carrier first before making up my mind. I'm flat broke for now, so I'll have to settle for just listening Highway to the Danger Zone for now.
I wonder if any introduction of the American jet era if there are jets like the F-86 Sabre or F9F Pather jets.? But the F4 Phantom𖥂; will do it is American ingenuity and horsepower,👍🏻 I will repaint the bird Maze & Blue; also, name it the Wolverine-JetFighter. GOBLUE-NATTYUP🏆
Dragon As well as the F 4 Phantom, Mig 21, and A 4 Skyhawk is proper fighter jets. The latest radar, missiler guideance systems and hud's + AMRAAM's or Meteor's, That would be my choice of... Payload. 😁 If i had the money to buy those old fighters for my own private airforce, if I had one, that is. 😂😂😂 😄👍
Beside the L-29 Delfin the French Fouga Magister should be on the list. Same era, same role, but a way much cooler looking jet. Also Polish PZL TS-11 Iskra and Yugoslavian Soko J-21 Jastreb, Soko G-2 Galeb and Soko G-4 Super Galeb should be in this class.
I was not able to find one for sale when I was researching, there are quite a few jet that have been for sale in the past, but I wanted to keep it to jets for sale at the time of writing.
Looking at my notes, that would include, fuel, consumables, factoring in maintenance, inspections, annuals, parts, the figures are not always going to be 100% but "a round about estimate"
It's not the cost of the airplane that you should be worrying about.
Sincerely, a retired aircraft mechanic ;)
Ain't that the truth, never owned an aircraft outright, only a share in a Cessna 152 many years ago, hoooo weeee, that was expensive.
Operation cost are often time blowed out since it's the government paying, someone has to call this out.
Ain't that the truth.
@@lcfflc3887 Well, if you think hiring an expensive mechanic is costly, just wait untik you hire a cheap one 😜
@@meow1990_2 and how many times do you have to open your jet up before each flight? Semi annual and annual checks: avionics, engines, control surface cables, fuel lines and other things, yes you need to pay someone for that, this things aren't done before each flight, this type of in depth overhauls take hours, days and even weeks, this is not done before each flight lol. You aren't sending a rocket in to the moon, before each flight what you would do is your regular walk around, basic maintenance check list that even you can do as a pilot, fuel, landing and parking fees pretty much is all you need to worry about if you are heading and landing somewhere else.
The Draken is the most desirable one in the list! with all the Swedish requirements, easy maintenence, short take of, etc, etc
Also, probably one of the frighting of the bunch along with the MiG-21, but I would give it a go.
Svenska Flygvapnet 🇸🇪 Flieger Empor !!
Ukraine needs them NOW!!!
It's honestly shocking that they can be bought for so little. They're literally less than most 2 story homes, and while you can sleep in a Draken cockpit, you can't make a house go over mock2
Unless a bunch of SAAB105 becomes awaileble. I think the 4-seater would be a good family aircraft.
My uncle died in an F-4 crash at Elgin in 1968. That said, I’ve always been fascinated by this beast of a plane.
Sorry to hear that. The F4 is quite a machine, I had one as an Airfix model, pride and place in my collection when I were a kid, great looking aircraft. :-) Joe
@@AviationRepublic An F4J with J79-10 engine . Ran these up on the flight deck many a night. It was a very forgiving bird. Lots of maintainance hours per flight hour.. But it would take a beating...
As a former USAF jet engine mechanic, I can assure you that the maintenance will eat through your bitcoin faster that the jet.
Then will shall pay with Doge - But, what a way to spend that BTC - :-) jOE
That was beautiful!
The phantom by a country mile what an icon of the skies
One of the best century series fighters
My favorite military fighter aircraft. Worked on the fire control system (radar) when I was in the USAF.
The old Mig 15's were going for only ~$30k (AUD) a few years back. Getting one with a reliable (not forged) maintenance record was the hard part ... oh, and a working ejector seat!
If only we had all bought Bitcoin in 2010
Give it a few more months, the MiG 15 and 21 will be back in active service...
I get your drift, I hope mot.
You don’t want to fly Mig 15s. They have the nasty habit of not being able to pull out of a dive. Plus they have an abrupt stall characteristic. You need to fly that jet fast so you can only fly out of long runways. Same with MiG 21s. It’s the hourly costs of fuel and maintenance that will wipe out your savings account.
@@ArizonaAirspace darn it! I’ll cancel the order!!!
Even if you buy a jet for $100k, you wont keep it long when you realize maintenance is $100k+/year and fuel is $1500+/hour.
No doubt deep pockets are required....tonight's videos will solve all our money problems....:-) Joe
If money wasn't an object then... The Phantom. No contest.
And the SAAB, and the MIG21, maybe throw in the Albatross?
@@AviationRepublic lol why not
Price of the plane is the minor of the problems, A mechanic, a Trained Pilot and find the Pices for Manutention are the real problem
Or you could park in on the front lawn, sit in it and make airplane noises.
@@AviationRepublicBrrrrrrrmmmm 😂😂😂
Not to mention needing IFR rating.
I would easily go for that Draken. Even in a unflyable status it would sit well in my front lawn.
Didn't Clarkson have the EE Lighting on his front lawn.? Imagine what the neighbours would say.
Just finished the video, i think i'm gonna reconsider my dream car list
Everyone needs a fighter jet in the garage next to the lambo.
Draken is absolute beauty. Just fantastic
I have to agree, but it's like asking someone to pick a favorite child. They are all special, but the SAAB, is just different
Many pilots learned in the l39, such a good basis
I would buy a Cessna Super Dragonfly. But I still love the Rockwell OV-10 Branco. Man are they fun to fly.
She a good looking aircraft, no doubt.
That Saab 35 Draken looks beautiful!
She is most definitely something special to look at.
I'd love to have the Draken, but I love living more, so Skyhawk. Also, I'm pretty sure I'd get whatever the FAA equivalent is to a speeding ticket for going supersonic somewhere I shouldn't.
The Draken would be insane to fly, to own...well, I don't want the huge bills.
@@AviationRepublic The Draken has a really deadly stall behavior that would probably kill you before you had to worry about the bills. It was so bad that the Saab put a dull knife on the joystick so pilots would let go of the stick when the stall vibration started.
But what a good looking aircraft. I have it on my list of planes to cover, Although not sure if anyone wants a 40 minute mini documentary on such a stunning plane. One way to find out I suppose.
FAA has supersonic restrictions over land, the concord could only do mach two over the Atlantic on its way to Europe.
@@edm2454 the widow maker F-104 nothing more dangerous. You flight this and dominate, you are Master pilot.
A4K Skyhawk
Yes, if you go to the website in the description they have a TA-4J Skyhawk for sale, only $3,200,000. if you are buying tell them Joe sent you ;-)
@@global092 oohhh the jet for junior pilots...The Draken and Viggen laugh in the air and the mig constructur found himself on the way to Siberia.....
I've long felt the Phantom F4 is the jet I want to own. It has such unusual body contours and can go Mach-2. Moreover, parts should still be available as it is used by some air forces.
She has to be one of the most beautiful design ever, there is one in my local museum, they have opened the cockpit for visitors to peer into, beast of a machine.
Would love to have an F-4. I live a few minutes from the Phantom Works. But, alas, I couldn't even afford a tank of JP-8 for it.
As a plus, that SAGEBURNER record is STILL unbroken. 😉
the SAAB 34 Draken (Dragon) is still VERY fast compared to newer Gen jet fighters.
Raw Swedish power.!!
Fun video. Few years ago, there were F16s for sale on the Trade a Plane. If I won the lotto, my choice would be either the F16 or the A4 Sky Hawk.
Thank you, i try to add a little humour. Were the F-16 in good flying conditions or just the shells?
@@AviationRepublic They were in good flyable conditions. They were old former Israeli F16s.
MIG 15, MIG 19, MIG 21, Gloster Meteor, F4, Phantom (Still in Iranian service ATM) DeHavilland Vampire, Hawker Hunter, English Electric Lightning, Shooting Star, Hawker Harrier, Folland Gnat, The list goes on and on.. We have a friend who has a Mig 21!
There are so many, but I only included jets which were for sale at the time I was researching the script. I might write another covering a whole bunch more jets, but I have some other cold war jet videos I am working on first. I will get there.
Buying is not the biggest issue.... keeping it in a flying state by certified procedures is much more expensive.
True, got to have those Elon Musk pockets.
If you don't care about fuel and maintenance, you can pick up a non turbo Cessna 310 for $40k which is about 1/3 the price of a comparable Baron or C210. The L39 requires the compensation package of a GM vice chairman.
I always wanted to fly the Cessna Skymaster
“BuNo” is an abbreviation for “Bureau Number” which is similar to a registration or N number on a civilian aircraft. However, no one calls it “BuNo” or “B.U.N.O.” Other than that, nice summary of military aircraft for sale on Controller.
Thank you, I will bear that in mind. More videos to come,
Siai Marchetti- Lovely plane to fly, pretty standard parts although getting harder to get, and a simple Pratt & Whitney engine.
I think there’s an upgrade to JT15D-5. TBO is at least 3500 hours, OH cost I think was about $175,000.
I'll take two :-) Joe
Draken for practicality but gotta love the Brick.
Pretty sure that there are mig 29's available on the civilian market.
That is probably the highest performance plane available.
Probably, not seen one advertised for sale, but I am sure they could be .
@@AviationRepublic I saw one advertised for sale a while back. I think it was in Florida, and someone said that Paul Allen had owned it for a while.
L-39
flown one, and for what it costs and whats gonna cost to operate / hour is fucking awesome!!
Me not being jealous.....But I bet that was some experience, one day if and when I finally crack this TH-cam malarkey, I might be able to afford something more glamorous than 30 minutes in a C150 :-) Joe
I've dreamed of getting myself an ex-Army armoured car and driving it to the supermarket.
We share the same dream, only mine involves straight lines to the supermarket.
Operation cost 5,000 lol
wait 'til the supermarket staff gets their little mittens on a cheap container of RPGs or Kornets for parking violations... 😏👌
How much for an F5 *Sukoshi Tiger* (aka the “Freedom Fighter”)?
Probably around a couple of million dollars
There's currently an F5a for sale in California for just under 1M US.
EXCELLENT video. Thanks. The A-4 Skyhwak my favorite. Nothing in aviation is cheap, specially spare parts, maintenance, fuel, certificates, training, etc...
Couldn't agree more! I want to get back to flying but every time I look at the cost of hiring a Cessna 152 spam can I decide otherwise.
@@AviationRepublic Understandable your point of view. Flying is expensive, I have just retired as an A320 airline captain and can tell you that and goes from the training to the end of the flight at the gate. I flied for 43 years.
Enjoy your retirement, you have earned it.
I would definitely buy the F4 phantom. Great looking fighter jet. If I bought it I painted black and blue.
May I suggest a gold Radome and a nice chrome underside. :-) Joe
Nice bit of fun to watch. My choice...... the Skyhawk.🙃
It was fun to make, a bit of humour once in a while goes a long way :-) Joe
Gee, no F-104's. I think there are a few left in Italy, Turkey, etc. 90 days same as cash. Financing available...
I think it would take a very brave person to want to fly an F-104, I mean, I ain't saying no......would they take Amazon gift cards?
Have to borrow a stick of Beemans before launching that 104.
It is indeed the gum of pilots, however, not sure about "borrowing"
@@AviationRepublic There is a crew out of Florida operating 3 civilian F-104s.
Going to have to look that up, sounds wild.
All jet powered aircraft require a tyoe rating and at least 1000 hour of flight time to opperate along with a private pilot certificate
1,000 hours is doable, i think the most I flew was 40 hours in a month, it's finding the time to get those hours.
L39 is the smart buy. Easy to fly and maintain.
True, very true
At 6:31
MIG-21
You said its engine was, "non-afterbirning", and that it could fly at 1,390 mph.
That is quite a bit faster than the speed of sound, and the mig-21 was not a super cruising fighter jet!! That probably goes doubly for the trainer version....
Oh, and getting you to heaven faster than a homesick angel?? The airplane was known for an extremely high rate of takeoff and landing accidents....
Now I will go back to the video....
"The airplane was known for an extremely high rate of takeoff and landing accidents..." That's one way to get to heaven :-)
@@AviationRepublic
"I want to go to heaven, but not today!!" A quote from Enos Strate, deputy sheriff on "The Dukes of Hazzard"television series.....
The engine is afterburning. Those performance numbers are for the afterburning aircraft.
I worked on the f-4c gun in early to mid seventies. So I can't be absolutely certain, but at the time, I was told, there were several hanger queens and several that couldn't fly. These were always breaking down and leaking red oil so we always referred to them as bleeding. The fly to maintenance ratio was bad and I suppose one would need to find a lot of test equipment and buy lots of spares. The f-16 was supposed to end that ratio, if it did I don't know. However, if I had billions in the bank I would definitely buy an f-4.
It has always been a question on my mind why some machines are just plagued with issues and an "Identical" one is 100% reliable. I once read that cars built on Friday afternoons would be the least reliable. How true that is, who knows. You are 100% correct, If I had the cash to buy any of these aircraft, I would most definitely have the cash to run them correctly, spares and all - :- )Joe
@@AviationRepublic I lived in Detroit for a while back in the 1970's. The advice then was to buy a car made on a Wednesday because the workers would take Monday/Tuesday off or Thursday/Friday off so they could have 4 day weekends. --This meant that they had to hire unqualified people (such as high school students) to work on the assembly lines for those periods, resulting in faulty automobiles.
That Siai Marchetti was the plane(s) used in HOT SHOTS.
My word that is such an old film. :-) Joe
The F-4 Phantom, would be my selection.
Though in Royal Navy 892 Squardon Fleet Air Arm, HMS Ark Royal, FG.1 Phanton colour scheme of the 1978's too.
Having an airworthy flying Phantom F-4, for the Air Show circuit in the UK and Europe, would be great.
As well as offering one off VIP flights, for one paid passenger in the rear seat.
That is to people who could afford, 10 to 15 Thousand Pounds, for a 30 to 40 minute flight.
To help raise necessary money, for the Phantom on-going maintenance and operational costs etc.
it would definitely be something for the bucket list. Not sure how my missus would feel about 15k missing from the bank account.
Actually, from a Swedish speaker, draken means the kite. It was given this name because its delta wing shape in the air resembled a kite. It has literally nothing to do with dragons. But yes, draken can also mean the dragon when used in proper context.
Draken is a much cooler name than Kite. I saw one of these the other day in Newark Air Museam, very cool machine. :-) Joe
Loads of technical/factual inaccuracies here so not one to particularly enjoy if you’re already into military jets, but a fun watch for the unfamiliar!
Thank you for the comment, I do try to get the technical info right, however, sometimes it does not go to plan.
As much as I adore the Phantom, Skyhawk for me, more practical for popping to the shops in, but she's a beautiful little bird.
Good choice!
You forgot the f5 tiger which goes up for sale randomly. Both in single and double along with the sister t38 trainer
I made a new video covering more military aircraft for sale, but no F5, next time. - Joe
You could just park it on your front lawn. There is a house in Kent, England that has a (I guess) replica Spitfire on the front approach to the house. Couple of great paint jobs in the video
Didn't Clarkson have the English Electric Lightning on his front lawn, or did I imagine that -Joe
The F-4 Phantom max thrust WITH afterburner is 18,000 pounds
You are correct, I was supposed to write "11,870 pounds-force with afterburner" than add the number after the word "afterburner", but seems I must have gotten distracted.
My heart belongs to the Phantom, but my brain'll go with the Draken.
I tell you what, as a gesture of goodwill, take them both.
I can’t wait to get my jet. It’s like you’re having a car that needs to be repaired all year long and paying 3 full time mechanics to work on them.
Going to need very deep pockets to maintain these beauties :-) Joe
I’m here watching this thinking “that’s not bad”
I’d choose the phantom. And as one of the comments said something the cost of a mechanic. My dad happens to be a retired air force mechanic. And worked on the phantoms in the Philippines in the mid to late 80s.
So, you are all set, We can have the Phantom delivered to your doorstep once the cheque clears :-) Joe
Sounds like a private airforce to me, personally I want a kit plane weighing less then 165 ibs that I can fly with out a pilots license and bring home IN my car.
I think that can be arranged.
The Draken (or The Kite, as is was named of) is capabel of speed more than Mach 2, they didn`t know howe fast is it, because it ran out of fuel long before it has accelerated fully out.
Any pilot will sell their soul for a fuel tank that will never run dry.
I'll stay with my 1946 Ercoupe, low maintenance cost, low fuel burn, 100 knots!
Ohh, just did a search for the "1946 Ercoupe" she is' a pretty little aircraft. - Joe
The Phantom II would be the right choice. My wife would also like to fly with me. The whole plane will be painted in rainbow colors, with big Peace stickers on the wings and tail.
You can dream sometimes
Dreaming is free, why not.
F4 is one of my favorite aircraft 🎉
Purchasing a plane, boat, motorhome, etc. is cheap. Maintaining them is expensive. Airplanes require annual inspections that eat up 10s of thousands of dollars each year. 10+ year old motorhomes are not allowed in motorhome parks. Boats have high maintenance and/or storage/docking costs. For each the owner has two great days. The day they buy it, and the day they sell it.
Haha, exactly, the idea of buying one of these is very appealing, the reality is probably a financial blackhole, but as the saying goes, you cant' take it with you. I did not know the about old motorhomes not being allowed in motorhome parks. Although these machines are out of my reach, it's nice to dream. :-) Joe
@@AviationRepublic as I understand the issue with the old motorhomes is people staying a while and then just abandoning the old clunker motorhome. This leaves the park stuck with the past due rent and an old motorhome with little value and expensive fees to haul it off.
@@JBoy340a Ah, that makes sense.
My choice would be an F4 phantom. Failing that a Phantom, or, as a last resort, a Phantom.
But have you considered.........an F-4 Phantom?
How many F-4 Phantoms, did you buy? Well 16 plus spares and support equipment. I was part of a team to acquire another squadron of F-4J Phantoms after the end of the Falkland conflict. Later I was the head of the UK team that modified RAF Phantom weapons system to utilize a digital computer. And flew many sorties in the back seat. As the trial aircraft was a two-sticker, occasionally I got a chance to "drive".
Only one, but it does not count. I am envious that you got to ride and fly in an F4, those are the best memories. - Joe
You had me at Saab Draken. Take my money. Please. lol
min 8:10 The J35 is not "strictly" a single seater. There are 2 seater Draken, the Sk 35C trainer version
Thank you for pointing that out, noted for a future Draken Video.
Would do with Draken
Everyone is going for the Draken or the F4, kinda feel for the other jets, can I interest you in an A4 Skyhawk? :-)
@@AviationRepublic Draken was its time the most advanced jet figther #cobramanouver, and i kinda like its looks better but F4 would be my second choise💪
Awesome video....Thanks......
Old F-4 Phantom ll pilot Shoe🇺🇸
Thank you, very pleased you liked it, more so from a F-4 driver :-) Joe
"Control I have a problem."
"What's wrong?"
"The throttle just came off in my hand. It looks like it was held together with...bubble gum!"
(SQUEEEEEAAAAKKK!!!!!)
"What the hell was that?!"
"The tail just fell off!!"
One would hope a quick pre-flight would spot the bubble gum :-) Joe
What about the A-10 Warthog? I would love to just have a ride in one...
At last, the YT clip I was looking for!!
If money were no object
1. F-4 Phantom II
2. Mig 21
3. A-4 Skyhawk ( Marine Variant )
Fine choices :-) Joe
In the picture they show a F4 Phantom. Try, at take off in burner 47,000 pounds of JP4 times two an hour. The cost of buying may not be much but the cost of flying per hour is horrendous.
We can dream, I have built an air force in my head with my imaginary billions. :-) Joe
I’ll take the Draken and the MIG-21
Good choices :-) Joe
It's not the buying but the "keeping" that makes them a nightmare.
Very true, i think one has to go into buying one of these knowing it is going to hurt the wallet. :-) Joe
Just like having a wife, it ain’t the price, it’s the upkeep.
I ain't saying nothing :-) Joe
1. Good luck finding a Phantom for sale. 2. And try and find people who know how to work on one and keep it airworthy. 3. And you better fly it regularly as they tend to break when parked. Spare parts? Nope. Restricted as the Iranians still phly them. And the Strikemaster... oh boy. Worked for a small company that tried to use those - including the one pictured. Fuel leaks galore. I have 2,000 Phantom hours. Never even tried to snag a ride in one of the Strikes. On the up-side, they were very simple, and had to be, given who was going to fly them and work on them.
I am very envious, 2000 hours, nice... I can only dream :-) Joe
What do you drive? Porsche. What about you? Me? I'm an Eagle driver 🤣
Imagine the "flex" as my kids would say.
An AMC Eagle?
@@AviationRepublic I believe that's Powers Boothe's line from Red Dawn. When asked what he flies, he says: I'm an Eagle driver :)
@@caeserromero3013Ah, right, It's been a while since I saw Red Dawn (The Original) Great film.
“What car ya got?”
“Fighter jet”
Imagine, one day maybe.
MAKE MORE OF THIS KIND OF VIDEOS
I will do, this was a bit of a fun video to make, I want to see if I can alternate between "Serious in depth" and "Fun, light hearted" content.
Hands off the F4, crypto kings, she (soon to be) mine, lol. (You probably can't afford her unless your bitcoin wallet is substantially HODLed to the max anyway). That 10k/hr "running cost" estimate just barely covers fuel, if you baby her and only fly in perfect weather. Plan 35hrs of maint. per hour of flight, if you live in the 60s and she's new. The completion of the resto will cost closer to $5m than 1, according to the people who did the 80%. And being a pre-poduction unit (11th Phantom completed, in fact), she has early canopy, windscreen and a whole slew of other parts which will be impossible to replace. The USAF *might* sell you some bits for the rest which is common to the later and airforce and export airframes, but only ground up to about the consistency of coffee (not beans), so budget for a circa-1980-mid-tier design and manufacturing capability in case something breaks. On the other hand she does come with some spares, 5 engines,for instance, although J79s go boom on their own occasionally so, y'know, the stash might not last too long in practice...
So yeah, come to think of it now... by all means folks, beat me to it and see if your talent for picking DeFi winners translates well to aviation. Proof of Stake means something different when its your one and only life and the investment can break up at Mach 1 at sea level if the pitch damper fails... ;)
At the moment with the world in the state it is in with Crypto all over the shop, we may need to scale back on the F4 dreams. :- )Joe
that exact f-4 phantom ii is at my local airport
One day, hopefully she'll fly again.
I’ll be happy with a Cessna Skymaster
Right now, I'd be happy flying a shoe box with wings
Haha, love it. The intro was great!
Glad you liked it! Fun to make, one day we will all make it to the moon.
This will go perfect with my new oil tanker. 🤣
Going to need very deep pockets, no doubt. :-) Joe
At 13:04
Tail art....
Any chance you got more video or stills of in this general location. Talking about the pictures of the S-211.
Whatever they paid the artist to paint art like that, it wasn't enough!! I would prefer to see more of the redhead it was to the side and in the background....but that was still beautiful!!
i will see what I can find for you. The art was..................interesting
@@AviationRepublic
The quality of the workmanship looked excellently done, even if you may not care for the subject matter....
I care, I am just easily distracted
@@AviationRepublic
"OOOOHHH!!!! New shiney!!"
Sorry, just was trying to make a small amount of fun....
I hope this day finds you fantastic!!
@@montecorbit8280 It's sunny here in Sunny old UK. Have a great day too.
Ha, my Dad worked on F4's in the Navy during Vietnam and the one thing I remember him saying was every flight hour required 70 hrs of maintenance
This IS a deep truth so take note.....
A flying Instructor once blessed my wallet with these very wise words:
*'If it Floats, Fsomething ...didn't quite catch that bit, or Flies ITS CHEAPER TO HIRE IT NOT BUY IT*
4 knee Kate's - That was the word !
Yeah, I know that one, never had a floater, but I have sure wasted more than enough on the second two.
are there any T-37's or better yet A-37's around for sale?
Yes in a museum lol
@@lcfflc3887 when I was in the Air Force Art Program I had two rides in the A37, it seemed like a great, simple little jet for somebody with a little extra coin, plus quite a few ended up in other countries where it seems they could show up in the marketplace finally
Yes, the A-37 Dragonfly, she's a pretty little aircraft.
Look - *Its GOT to be the Draaken - Its SHINIEST*
Without a doubt.
U need to scower the net more bud...ur content is great......u can add a version of ai 2that
I made another video, covering more aircraft to buy, check out the latest video, lots of crazy machines for sale :-) Joe
900mph on the deck sounds fast,... to everyone except an F-111 Pilot.
You missed the more recent 'must have',.. the MiG-29, which will out turn all of these, and out run most.
I might do another video soon, there are quite a few more I wanted to include, with a little more depth.
The last fighter jet in this video: F4H-1F (F-4A) Two-seat all-weather aircraft carrier-based fighter for the US Navy & US Marines. J79-GE-2 and -2A engines with 16,100 lbs (71.6 kN) of afterburner thrust each. Named Phantom II in 1959 and redesignated F-4A in 1962; 45 built.
If ($) was no object/ The Phantom of coarse. Without a doubt. One thing though, F-4 s guzzle fuel at an alarming rate. Be sure to have a tanker waiting when getting to altitude or you'll be coming back down the hard way. I was in 2 F-4 Phantom squadrons on 2 different carriers during Viet Nam.
Wow, I bet you have some great stories of those times.
I think I would go for a nice tank instead, say a Chieftain, Challenger or a surplus Merkava (The kids can be packed in the back).
How many of us have wished for a tank during rush hour :-) Joe
Now add the maintenance cost and you’ll quickly see why owning one of these isn’t a good idea.
DIY.....I mean, how hard can it be? (Said in a Clarkson voice)
Good thing I am an A&P!
I owned a Northrop Talon years ago that we received in pieces and had to build to get it into a presentable state, unfortunately my mother Knocked it of the mantelpiece!
Either your mother was the size of Godzilla or the Talon was a model........mmmmm... :-) Joe
@@AviationRepublic Both!
I think I'd have to buy or commission an aircraft carrier first before making up my mind.
I'm flat broke for now, so I'll have to settle for just listening Highway to the Danger Zone for now.
Thanks, now I have that song stuck in my head.....The video out tonight ought to be the answer to all our money issues :-) Joe
I wonder if any introduction of the American jet era if there are jets like the F-86 Sabre or F9F Pather jets.? But the F4 Phantom𖥂; will do it is American ingenuity and horsepower,👍🏻 I will repaint the bird Maze & Blue; also, name it the Wolverine-JetFighter. GOBLUE-NATTYUP🏆
I believe there are F-86 Sabres in private ownership.
All of them
Dragon As well as the F 4 Phantom, Mig 21, and A 4 Skyhawk is proper fighter jets.
The latest radar, missiler guideance systems and hud's + AMRAAM's or Meteor's, That would be my choice of... Payload. 😁
If i had the money to buy those old fighters for my own private airforce, if I had one, that is.
😂😂😂 😄👍
All we need is to win the lottery a few times. If only :-)
Beside the L-29 Delfin the French Fouga Magister should be on the list. Same era, same role, but a way much cooler looking jet. Also Polish PZL TS-11 Iskra and Yugoslavian Soko J-21 Jastreb, Soko G-2 Galeb and Soko G-4 Super Galeb should be in this class.
Thanks for the heads up, I will make a note of those for another video. :-)
@@AviationRepublicall these Yugo planes have RR Viper engines and majority of the instruments inside are of Western origin.
Does the phantom come with Aircraft Carrier
No, but I can throw in some furry dice and some nice seat covers. :-) Joe
oh Yes....we can all afford one of these...
You think those were expensive, wait until you see the next lot, they will make your toes curl :-)
What about the Fouga Magister?
I was not able to find one for sale when I was researching, there are quite a few jet that have been for sale in the past, but I wanted to keep it to jets for sale at the time of writing.
Might-21 definitely has afterburner
So what's in that dollars per hour operating cost list
In one example you said it cost $10,000 per hour to operate the aircraft why is that
Looking at my notes, that would include, fuel, consumables, factoring in maintenance, inspections, annuals, parts, the figures are not always going to be 100% but "a round about estimate"