The Dark Side of Making Money with Photography
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Today we are talking about the unfortunate side of making money with your photography and turning creativity into a business.
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Chapters
00:00 - 01:35 - intro
01:35 - 03:10 - sacrificing creativity
03:10 - 05:20 - removing yourself
05:20 - 06:47 - volatility
06:47 - 08:08 - growth problems
08:08 - 09:45 - PPA
09:45 - 11:25 - skill isn’t everything
11:25 - 12:43 social media
12:44 - 14:18 competition
14:18 - 15:47 systems take time
15:47 - 16:47 sunk cost
16:47 - 18:16 new tech
18:16 - 19:13 outro
Thanks for watching! Hope this video highlighted some of the ways the internet doesn't always share the full story.
Listening while in the gym, good info bro!
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thanks my man - been shooting professionally / freelance for 20 years, glad to hear a younger perspective
Thanks for the insight. I hear you with the competition side of it. It doesn't matter what type of photography you are doing (motorsport in my case), there are always thousands already doing it and alot of them have been doing it professionally for decades. So breaking into the niche or standing out in a sea of others isn't easy. Not gonna stop trying though.
Yeah!
"Creator is just a new term for influencer..." I knew there was a reason I felt that was a disparaging thing to call a photographer!
I think this is true with most businesses. Even when I was a contractor it was the same way. You do projects that aren't amazing, but later on you pick what you do.
Evan, great video and great thought based on an experienced skilled photographer. This kind of content are very useful for beginners and also pro's. I add to your thought also the based Country. I am in Italy and it's very very hard to work as a freelance photographer. Competition is very very hard and most of the problems comes from other photographers that wants to compete in an unfair way. The community (or niche in the smallest countries) sometimes doesn't support each other unfortunately and sometimes a ph is considered an extra here, because "my cousin or my friend's cousin could do the same work with his iphone, so, why you charge XXX€ for some photos?". Sad but true story
I'm from Puerto Rico, since the Galaxy S5 I start to sale pictures in a local shop of souvenirs, today I sale in 5 souvenirs stores, just local pictures and my income is $2,700 to $3,000/month only with my phone, I have pictures that I have sold thousands of time, I have 3 contracts with 3 cooperatives and 1 bank for their almanacs, that's generates more than 17k a gear ... just with my phone the one that I changes every year.
Selling on the internet will only make you work more for them and less money for you.
I tougth i was the only one
A.i. is fun to play with on the computer. But I like real life photos better.
Great point and it can feel like this even if you don't run your own business. I work full-time as a lead photographer for a studio and picking up a camera in my weekends to "create" or work on my own brand can actually feel just as another chore when the last thing you want is to hold a camera again for the 50th time in the week. Great video Evan!
Wow 😳Evan, this one was needed. it's definitely worth watching a few more times. Thank you for the honesty.
Really appreciate your no-nonsense down-to-earth and insightful discussion.
Very informative, and jam packed with value. I wish more photographers were as open and honest as you are.
I wish more photographers were as open and honest as you are. :) Thanks
Thank you so much for this video
Great info as usual bro. 🤝
Great video, really useful advice
Writing has become my super power. Only over the last few years did I realize this. As a kid I loved writing. Then, it seemed that everything was about budget, or tech, or network. But no, words + image = vision. And that inspires. That attracts. Now, I can brand.
Hello Evan, I have been watching you a couple years now and I am an active member of PPOC. Great organization, Love your work!! Come to western Canada some time!
Hey Evan, keep the great content and the reality of photography coming mate ... i have purchased both of your books to support your business as i love your photography genre as i also love the art of street photography. i would like to purchase some of your prints but it seems that the ones i like you don't send internationally to Australia ...
Word! 🙌I can confirm all these points. Luckily I'm at a point where I'm over most of the things you talked about, but it took me 10 years as well. :)
I am into iris photography and hope that this is something AI won't be able to do as good as me for a few years to come. 🤞
Sadly many people can't distinguish between AI images and genuine photos . Makes my stomach churn when I see praise being heaped on an AI image and the viewer remarks at how wonderful a 'photo' it is ...... the audience needs to educate themselves batter to properly discern what they're looking at.
If the hands look awkward- that’s indication of AI
I like the idea of social media services somehow making it so AI images are labelled.
Ill take the dark side making money over any bright side being broke 😞
Love your fast food analogy, Evan. It’s so true. So much garbage out there on social media with no added value. You’ve been bucking the trend for quite some time.
"If you don't have the network, you will not be a photographer. " ~ studio photography teacher at ICP, 8 years ago
Thank you for this video Evan. I don't usually watch these talking heads but I do appreciate more realistic views of the photography market. As someone has been shooting for 10 years, and has been published three times and have had personal clients all of which are on the smaller side of the scale, I basically threw in the towel in terms of trying to turn photography into a full-time endeavor. But the biggest thing that really stunted the progress was the lack of a photography network and the reluctance of my photographer peers to share information and otherwise collaborate on projects.
The last two killers for photography is that yes you will have to grow octopus arms and do a bunch of different things, however, how to target your market is 1 of 2 biggest absolute necessary skill (basically, HOW to get the jobs, beyond just marketing). Almost nobody is going to make a video about that because the legion of TH-cam photographers will just copy it and it'll destroy that practice whatever it is.
The second one? Connections connections connections. I'm on the fashion photography side of things, and it is built on cliques and entourages and people that could really give a flying shit about you. Your love of photography and desire to build it into a burgeoning business, even if it's part-time, will be dependent on targeting these last two areas. You could do all of the other areas perfectly including the marketing, but if you're not getting the work then nothing else matters.
Hi Evan, I really enjoy your videos and appreciate your creativity and insights. You have a great eye for photography and storytelling. However, I noticed that your voice sounds a bit quiet compared to other videos. Maybe you can adjust your microphone settings or speak louder next time. I don’t want to miss any of your valuable tips and advice. Keep up the good work!
Just found this channel… your videos are fuckin legit man
Stay away from buying gear with credit cards. If you don't have a lot of money buy a used camera Nikon D200, Panasonic G, GH1, GH2, Olympus E-PL5, Canon T2i, T3i.
Now for lenses basic kit lens and two primes Nikon 35mn, 50mm, Canon 35mm, 50mm. Olympus 17mm, 25mm, 45mm.
Fuji is also good but I only recommend Fuji X-T2 and when models around that time came out. Older Fuji cameras don't have half press shutter lock. And that's one feature that drives me crazy.
I just hit like button and like goes 888 to 889 🎉 wow I’m feeling special 😊
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I see so many people on line who cannot figure out why they cannot turn their likes and followers into a business. Then again, I see people who believe being a creator is easy money.
I am not concerned about AI. I am concerned about the people using AI. I'm also a hobbyist who gave up any idea of doing photography as a business or even a side hustle before IG even existed.
100%, the AI stuff will be weird from a business standpoint but when I remove that and look at photography as just someone who enjoys it I’m not worried either
Yea but A.I cannot click your wedding pictures. Real candid pictures can only be captured by a good photographer. No A.I tool whatever is the new version that comes, cannot create memories for you.
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Mo’money more problems
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Real MVP!
Competition is used loosely. More like saturation 😂😂😂😂
More like a absolutely terrible market overall especially dependent on what country you're from.
If you do some marketing research in your country it'll give you a better sense of what the overall picture is. Average salaries in America for photographers are terrible literally in the poverty area. In the media you will hear all about any level wits and high ranking photographers like that, but otherwise dude does not make it a lot of bread out here. But if that's your desire as a business you got to do it I guess.
"promo sm"
I have been working on getting a dream client for 4 months now. Hopefully almost have it.
As someone who has been doing this on and off for 15 years, my insight is art budget is always the hardest to fight for, and the first thing to get “delayed” (actually canceled).
Clients Dck you around for months on end and maybe or maybe not even do the gig.
Agency photographers are still making huge money; but give it 10 years and all those jobs will be watered down to nothing.