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- Modular Podcast had the pleasure of checking the awesome new DrumBrute from Arturia with Source Distribution and captured plenty of footage while we were there. Here's a general product overview, Q&A and jam with soon distortion (which is ACE!). We go through the features and sounds but any questions fire away as always.
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Sounds fantastic. Excellent features and well thought out sequencing options at a great price. Congrats Ben on all these exclusives you are doing these days.
Cheers! Really chuffed to have this exclusive in. Puts me in the league of the big boys in terms of timeframe / video on launch day at least haha.
Well done gents. You managed to sell this drum machine FAR more effectively than Arturia have done. Thank you. I will be getting one.
cheers! Glad you like the video.
How do you feel about the drumbrute a year later?
Fantastico! Love the ability to have a different length to each sound's part for endlessly changing patterns, let alone the random function!
yeah lots of room for creating ever lasting patterns and variability.
You two together, who could dislike this! Ace indeed.
Glad I held back on buying the TR-8. Based on this demo alone, I know I'll prefer this box. The DrumBrute will be my next drum machine...It sounds amazing!
Cool, I liked the TR-8 as well though to be fair to it. Different things though.
This is actually the best review , hands down , on the internet for the drumbrute!
Excellent demo. I ordered my Arturia DrumBrute yesterday.
Cheers Steven, had good fun playing around on it.
Wow, Arturia are really doing a great job with their analog products. This machine sounds totally different from the classics (what a brave thing to do these days!), and it sounds brilliant! Superb!
I was happy to see it went further than a basic 808 emulation type thing.
Wow, very impressed! Love the playability! And sequencer has some nice features like the BSP 😃
yeah impressive I thought. Quick and inspiring to get things happening quickly.
This sounds much more crispy than Arturia's demo video. Might have to grab this, it's dope.
yeah I really want one. Nice machine.
Sold! Great video and really showed the nature of the beast (or brute). The separate outs beg to be processed, and I do like the base sounds and capabilities of the machine a lot :)
Cheers Mark, I want one that's for sure. Should be fun to play around with and process the outputs through stuff.
So much radder than I thought. Great job y'all.
cheers mate appreciate it.
Arturia, doing Roland better than Roland are currently doing Roland.
haha lot of that being said.
pretty much.... roland needs to step up his game!!!
We should all be stepping up our game.....
Best gear news since quite a while!
nice one! Cheers.
RAW(Nice/Dope) JAM....ARTURIA YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO SELL MANY UNITS!!!
I hope they do.
Even better than the "official" showwheel for this crackling brutus maximus. The only thing I first was a bit "hmm" about were the cymbals, sounded a bit low pitch for me, but I see where they aim at to get that metallic feeling and not just use the classic cymbals. But then when I saw the individual outputs, it felt better. Just to be a bit creative there to get most of this bad boy. Thank you for another super overview!
You could take the meat of the drums as individual outputs then leave all cymbals in the main output and use the high pass filter to shape them all.
That's a crazy amount of analog circuitry for only $450.
yep
Arturia are soo awesome!! thanks for the vid it was a good overview. I think i was sold when i heard analogue drum machine by arturia but far out that thing is cool. They really do make good products for the price, my minibrute got me into modular =) much
I have a Microbrute and I enjoy that too. Jamming on the together will be ace.
Awesome bloody demo!
Cheers Paul! :)
amazing!!!! the distortion JUST on the kick would be even more awesome for me
the beauty of having access to seperate outputs
totally. Distortion the kick, compress the snare and toms and then leave others on the main output and play with the filter. Set up really well for that.
Love this machine...!
nice one
Drumbrute looks much better then I thought before
it's a nice unit
I'm going to combine this with a DSI Mopho keys, an analog keys and a Digitakt for my band seems like a solid setup
sounds like good fun Nigel.
i would love to see the Arturia DrumBrute along with the Arturia MatrixBrute in a production situation
with a Microbrute on a secondary synth line?
Damn, this dude fucking killed it on the opening performance
:D
Can this be used as a sequencer to trigger samples in Ableton Live, say? So in essence, you could assign any sound you wanted to each inbuilt sample, but it would be playing through your DAW with the DrumBrute just controlling the triggers, etc?
yes
Great demo. What distortion box was that? Just a standard box or anything unique about it that made it suitable for taking a drum box?
It's the MF Drive pedal www.moogmusic.com/products/minifoogers/mf-drive nice as it is any overdrive would be fun I think.
just arrived great with my proco rat thanks
yeah drums through distortion is good fun.
Love it!
cheers
It's real! :) Ok now to watch...
very rare, very good :)
The kick sounds good, tuned down is exact 909 frequency ?, very good to have Original sound frequency instead of guessing.
I don't know where exactly to set it for 909 type sounds. Don't have the DrumBrute to hand to do so.
can i hold a step, change the value of a drumvoice and those values are stored on the step and instantly switched when that step gets activated? much like i can do this on the Analog Rytm with the Parameter Locks - invented by Elektron btw ;-) Or is this feature reserved for the Pattern Effects on the Drumbrute?
there's no P lock functionality. Old school analog the knobs set the values and that's it.
DivKidVideo
ok, thanks for the info. im still excited to get my hands on this thing when its out :)
So far this is the only vid where they actually increased the decay on the snare. Sounds alright now.
really? Funny how things are missed, but lots of getting things moving quickly to get videos ready from what I can tell. Not sure official wise but I know I didn't have that much time.
Hats sound like modded 606, actually... Like an ExFade, which is awesome!
Yeah they sound like my Boss DR110.
Listening to this demo I was thinking "Mm, it could pair up very well with my minifooger Drive (you can use it with an expression pedal!)" and bada boom! (guess it wasn't so original an idea after all). GREAT DEMO btw. Cheers!
haha thanks! :) wanted to do something different with the drive pedal. Lot of love for driven kicks and toms. I then mix them and sidechain against clean drums in the DAW.
I'll try that! thanks again :)
cool, hope it works out well.
Great minds.
maybe its my speakers, but the decay of the 808 style kick on the Brute isn't as long as the tr-8 is it? The Tr-8 kick decay lasts about 2 seconds when turned up all the way.
Hey, not sure to be honest. Don't have either unit to hand to AB it. However this video was done with the distributor and we just "did what we did". Did we turn it up and let it ring fully at any point?
IIRC, it's a little shorter, yes! Kick 2 takes around a full second at max decay.
SourceDistributionTV Gotcha. Still an amazing drum machine - thanks
looks and sounds like more then decent machine. wish they engineered individual outputs also as fx insert inputs, same like on vermona drm1. anyway it's cool box, getting one in a few days..
cheers
I liked the sound on the day but haven't touched one since. Keen to have a go on one within my own set up to get a real feel for it.
Rolands usually got light up knobs though....
haha
amazing
nice one
Just came across this ...great interview/demo..the drumbute is a fab drum machine .very tweeky if ya know what i mean.. i would buy but already have TR8 ...which is good and classic but not so tweeky .
I think the TR-8 is a strong drum machine too. Borrowed one for a while and enjoyed it. Both the TR-8 and this take to processing really well so adding in some FX with them really brings them both to life.
Hi, like the demo. Do you still have the machine? Would love it if you could make a short vid of how it integrates with a DAW using USB and/or MIDI In/Out. What Midi data does it send and such...
Hi, think we're chatting on Facebook right? Alex at Source Distribution said it can send a midi note per voice and be set up to do so.
Yup. Still would love to see a demo of it ;)
fair enough, I don't have the unit to hand though I can't make anything with it.
Looks and sounds mega
;)
hip hop would be so much fun on this
With individual swing per track you could get some killers grooves going.
Can you get the classic Boom deep bass 808 kick sound out of the box or using the outputs to a compressor and a touch of distortion.? Thanks
I'd guess like most 808 stuff comrpession/saturation EQ would do it.
Oh yes indeed.
It's nice but I think I expected something with more "brute factor" without having to run it through external effects. But hell, at that price I imagine we'll be hearing them everywhere soon!
the thing with drums is we always hear them compressed and EQ'd. Especially samples and samplers etc. Very rare we hear raw analogue drums. I was pleasantly surprised they were just raw and thinner in places. Really appeals to me. I'll process it in and out of the box ... if/when I get one.
17 analog voices, LP, HP, 12 outs, it's doubtful that a ton of people will complain about "brute factor", but who knows.
(When there is no pedal) Is that the direct sound from the DrumBrute, or is it post-processed?
Yeah I recorded direct out. We swap the cables going into the Moog MF Drive pedal part way through and then that went direct to recording.
super sweet
indeed
sounds great looks like fun to but no parameter locks or can you midi cc individual parts?
no old school totally analogue
does it sync to volcas and sq-1?
Yep!
Awesome
cheers
The two gods of modular synths join forces to present the Drumbrute :) @mylarmelodies & @divkidvideo :)
haha the four hands of UK eurorack vids.
Ordered thanks Ben -:)
I haven't (yet). Didn't get much time hands on myself but I imagine I'll end up buying one.
you know how it sounds allready:) I've checked the video with headphones and was convinced immediately... Can't wait to play it
I do, but for some reason I haven't ordered one. Possibly just clouded by the weekly incoming amount of gear :D
I've got a lot of eurorack drums too.
Hi i was wondering if the outputs are CV because i was thinking of running it through a eurorack FX system,if not i surely need 12 VCA's to run this little monster.
Hi DNA,
they are audio and not CV. But CV isn't audio even in a modular system (in case there's any confusion there).
You wouldn't need VCAs for CV or audio integration though. Are you just thinking of the amplitude differences in level between line and euro rack levels?
Hi friend thanks for your answer,actually i was thinking to use it through a eurorack FX system instead of getting fx pedals,but i was worried about the output signal hence if i would need VCA's to run before the Eurorack FX's
Most VCAs are actually voltage controlled attenuators not voltage controlled amplifiers in that they don't offer any amplification to boost a signal. Simple control from the input level down to nothing and back. So VCAs wouldn't help with level adjustment.
A cheap option to external instruments would be the Doepfer A-119 External Instrument pre amp and envelope follower. There's also options from a company called LADIK that do a cheap but decent quality dual line in a small space. LADIK might be a good way to go. I
wow nice remix!
remix?
well impressed. Individual accent and step length
yeah plenty of thought gone into it it seems.
Anyone else think that Alex sounds just like mylar melodies?
EDIT: Oh I guess that's because it is him.
Those maybe the hands of a fine modular video guy.
can the kick be tweaked enough to get close to an Oberheim DMX sound?
Not sure as I don't have one of the drum machines to hand. I'd have to search to check out the DMX sound to remind myself. As those sound are sampled though I don't imagine it will get close.
I think if you are going to add a kick modeled on the 808 and 909 then it needs to be able to accurately reproduce those sounds as well as being able to modify them further. The kicks aren't anywhere near deep enough considering its analogue, I don't need the high end sweep sounds on kicks, I just want window shattering low end. I would have left the tamb and disco sound out, they are crap.
littlegee couldn't agree more!
all fair enough. I think we had the kicks tuned a little high in places. I'd certainly have them lower for making beats myself. I thought the Disco Tom when it was really short made for a nice little thumpy tom like sound to play off the kick and toms. That's the beauty of all this gear though, it won't all appeal to everyone but some will really stand out for certain people.
Wouldn't you want hear it in person though? I mean it is only youtube audio.
yeah there's no real thing to trying things in person. Ideally with / on your own equipment. If I'm buying something I take my own headphones that I know and work with all the time to try gear in any music shops. Much easier to judge. It's also fair enough that someone doesn't like the sound though.
Gee, you'll always be Little. You don't know shit about drum synthesis. Sorry about your poor choices in gear.
I think this machine might be perfect...guess I gotta buy it
I'd say so, I need to buy one.
Was this mylar melodies? His voice is usually lower, but the way of speaking was so similar...
this was Mylar Melodies yes.
What are you using to process the sounds? I have one and it definitely does not sound this good without FX
this went through whatever the desk / interface at the show was so I aren't 100% on that. Might have some some compression and EQ over the stereo output of the trade show set up.
Cool thx for the response. Guess Ill get back into experimenting with different FX lol
Really like the drumbute's palette, except for the punchy, 909-like kick... it seems to have a really narrow sweet-spot, and I've yet to hear it dialed in tight enough to be usable. As a not-an-808 drum machine, with some of the same vibe, it's totally worth the asking price, anyway. Might have to find a way to bend that 909 kick...
I'd agree with the kick, sounds like the envelope isn't exponential enough to my ears. Also agree it's well worth the price, plenty of raw sounds to sculpt. I'm sure some pretty heavy compression could shape that kick, longish attack, fast release etc.
Ya. Your prescription sounds like it'd get the best out of it. Accentuate the attack portion of the kick by stalling the compression 20-30ms, with the attack on the kick itself set as tight as is practical.
In the various reviews, I find that people sort of clumsily torque on the parameters (of that kick in particular), so it's really not that clear what it's got to offer. The concern is that they're doing that on purpose on account of it being lack-luster - after all, that dial that adds 'click' seems like a kludge (kind of 'pasted' on top, weird latency.)
If you happen to buy one first, please do consider uploading a video exploring the potential of that kick!
it's unlikely I'll be buying one, not because I think they're bad, but I've got the most bad-ass drum case with eurorack stuff at the minute I'd be silly to use anything else. Taken some planning but really happy with it. I'd ask the same of you too though, if you get one some exploration of the kick as audio or short video would be appreciated. I don't feel (like you) I've heard it properly yet.
Sounds good but really wish the hats were less peaky and there was distortion on the output
shifting the tuning/tone of the hats and turning them down will sort that. Individual outs too if you want to remove them from the main outs and process.
You could literally spend another 40 - 50 quid on a distortion pedal then you're sorted. Even better anyone with an existing collection of pedals, modular or outboard effects (like me) it can be processed tons with individual outs. I'm very very excited by the possibilities
must have!
good for some raw drum sounds and pretty powerful sequencing that's for sure!
Sick
yep!
Nice demo. CV outs?
CV outs? As in sequencer trigger outs? None on this thing. Might be something someone can hack with trigger in and outs. Got clock out though.
The best part ... no computer!
yeah!
Wow...Roland please look at this!!!!
An analog Jupiter 8 remake would be nice too...
the closest they'll ever get to that is the JDXA.
Yeah at this point I very highly doubt they'll do anything fully analogue again. Korg has done, Behringer has done it, they're proving popular ... yet still Roland don't seem to want to join in. Very odd.
Is all analog made equal?!? How did they manage to keep the $$ down so low ? Are they going for volume sales? I LIKE the' 'sound' on this thing that's for sure. I will take this over the MFB ( good thing I didn't order the Tanzmaus)!
I can't wait to hit the Drum Brute with a compressor or two in the studio ( it sounds like it needs it btw). I still love my TR8 ( it's kicks are so nicely balanced) and the TR s snares are very nice. I don't think TR8 is in comparison to this Arturia - they are sonically miles apart .
I can't wait to download the 505 and 606 kits into my TR 8. 909*/808/707/727/606/505
I work in the electronics industry, the components are really cheap like a reel of 3000 resistors is like $10. And the assembly of the PCBs can be done 20 minutes. Everything is automated and if the company has low overhead they can price low like Korg Minilogue and Behringer Deep 12.
Thanks for that insight man, I wasn't really sure ( and still don't fully) know what analog is! I know its good and sounds. And I know doesn't have harsh digital artifacts. it just sounds expensive. I have some nice preamps and outboard gear with transformers and what not. Maybe I'm getting the two things mixed up in terms of parts and internals. Like, when transistors are hand wired.
Its all sort of the same it comes down to how much you want to spend. Good preamps are really important though so it sounds like your priorities are in order.
Cool man, thanks . good to know. I'll figure it one of these days! Thanks.
Just keep reading, learning and looking into gear and methods etc. The endless learning is what I really like about the gear world and more specifically modular. Analog just refers to non digital in a blunt sense. Some of it's good, some amazing, some not great. Same for digital, sound amazing, some ok, some bad. I wouldn't rule digital out as any better or worse.
uh oh!!!!! looks like my Microbrute is going to have some company to play with!!!!! :D
my thought too, getting them on a tiered laptop type stand and building a little workstation.
sounds VERY VERY nice...@arturia take my money again
price is amazing, I left feeling very happy with the unit.
Very nice. The workflow reminds me a little bit of the Spark LE.
yeah it felt quick and easy to use.
I have a SL and I've allways wish to have something similar but analog and with no menu diving, dream drum machine to me :)
all your dreams have come true! :)
does it save the sound parameters ..!!question
no totally analog. But they aren't moving unless you move the knobs.
Can you set the pitch of the instruments for each step?
no, unfortunately. that's the only thing the mfb machines have over this
As 'Turm' said below no. Elektron's with the P-Lock stuff I'd suggest or the MFB (although I haven't tried that).
what is the reference of the stuff doing the distortion?
reference? As in what's the pedal? Or what's the point of using it?
Pedal = Moog MF Drive
The point = sounds good, most sounds we here are processed and it's nice to see how things respond through FX.
Thank you! It works perfectly with the drumbrute for techno session
Yeah mixed with cleaner drum sounds and side chained or for just raw distorted techno.
Price bad ass,
Is build quality as good as the awesome features?
it felt really solid in my hands.
OMG! That's amazing. So then obviously the company is not taking huge profits from individual units, but is focused on selling a lot. 😋 This is such an interesting thing because im in Southern California and I'm near both Analogue Haven and Noisebug, both synth focused Stores. Noise bug will not carry stuff according to the manager I'm friendly with because they don't get enough of a cut off suggested price point. So apparently Elektron doesn't offer a lot of profit for stores.
Bravo Arturia! I'm a total newbie to Arturia. But this machine is going straight to number one on my want list.
For me, the whole polyrhythms feature is number one feature, and is heavily featured in my own (progressive ambient) 🎶 music. Before I could only get this level of sophistication with the Manikin Schrittmacher, which is up to 1999usd depending on which country you buy it in.
I'm obsessed with wanting this badly. 😜😝😛
2:21 Left hand hidden message
Hahaha....That was for Roland
hahahahaha
Yeah Greg subliminal message we didn't even know we were doing.
18:05 is lit
nice one!
Still people on gearslutz prefers the tr9 !!!!!
I wish I could hear a demo using separate outs (12+stereo vs 1 stereo on the tr9 !!!) and specially about the kick - everywhere I see critics of the kick but all demos use the stereo output of the d-brute :/
Tx for the vid anyway !!!!
Fair enough, all this stuff is subjective. If I get hold of one of these I'll do some individual output stuff.
Are the individual outs at Eurorack Modular level?
No, line level
Too bad! Almost perfect - it was a sure buy, but now I am going to have to consider how many input paths I have/will need to process via Eurorack. It would be nice if there was one module that could provide individual outs line to euro conversion (or alternately, it would have been nice if Arturia could have given us a boost switch - if that is too much to ask). Hate to be a whiner...impressive none-the-less!
I'd expect and want line level myself for better wide range integration with other gear.
In terms of inputs to euro levels there's a good few around. For multiple inputs to euro level the I/O module seem the best with 8 in and 8 out that come in and out on DB25 snake cables. So you could go jacks or XLRs to DB25 then into the modular. I'd like one of those :)
I have both the Tr-8 and the DrumBrute. I'd say in the end the TR-8 is better for a variety of reasons if you want to sample it at least. I find the Clap and the Snare very weak and boring on the DrumBrute, needs quite a lot of processing to get something nice. The Kicks are powerful, the hats are however pretty wacky I'd say. I guess that really depends on what you're looking for. In the end I'd say you should spare 3 times as much money and buy the Analog Rytm and be done with it, then again, I find the Tr-8 much more fun to play with, and I'm a bit tired of analog snobbery.
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Digital has sounded good for a while, and it keeps improving. My take on the DrumBrute was as a raw analogue drum source it sounded good for then processing and mixing in with other things. Playful jam sessions and a decent sequencer etc.
loooolks like I know what Santa should bring 2 me this year..
yeah good stocking filler, if you've got big feet and stockings! :)
I have some)
are those sides made of wood or plastic?
not sure as I was only around the unit for the video. Try asking on the Source video as they're responsive.
Pretty sure it's a coated finish, it's not solid wood I'm afraid - but then neither are a lot of classic synths (Juno 60 for example = vinyl covered chipboard!)
cheers!
so - does it sync ?... like other arturia products ... hehe
no idea, I think the BSP is rock solid with the latest firmware isn't it? Or isn't it?
yeah i believe they updated the BSP 3 or 4 times.
Yeah I think so too (not kept up with the updates myself) but reports are things are solid now.
Polyrhythm Mode is going to make my wallet thinner.
Yeah I thought that. Really cool. Makes it a good sequencer for recording midi patterns too.
DivKid satisfying my OCD there at 15:20 😬
Why is Arturia advertising this as velocity sensitive? it's not.
Not sure, I don't have to check.
x-mas is coming :)
haha
Fucking greaaat !!!
cheers
It sounds a bit Minibrute-y... The kicks are a bit dirty etc
The hats sound f all like 909 hats - what are they on? cymbal very 808.
hats are 909 like, but the original 909 was 6 bit samples. This is all analogue.
so, not like a 909 at all then! Great machine for that money though; someone at Roland is going to get the message sometime. Great video thanks.
Wish they would, even if they just made a hybrid with the kick and snare being analogue and the rest digital. Surely that wouldn't be too expensive or difficult and would satisfy 95% of us still wanting the real deal.
Hey James, yeah technology wise not 909 like. But more 909 in tone from this analogue circuit (which is actually very much like the Boss DR110 hats) than the 808s tone in the hats.
Be super cool for some of the guys making eurorack drums to look into boxing up some stuff. Things like the Dinky's Taiko, Neuron, Mutant Machine, Basimilus etc coupled with some more standard analog like the Mutant Bass/Snare is super powerful.
how did you record this ?
direct audio into the recorder we had on the video rig that day. No FX or pre amps used for colour. What makes you ask? Just wondering if it's direct or processed?
yes sorry I wasn't precise! so is it direct or processed ??
as I said above, direct, no FX, no processing etc.
is this will work for house?
have a listen and see what you think. You can easily make house beats on it, but listen to demos of different machines and see what speaks to you and your style the most.
how is this compared to TR-8? i really love the sound of TR-8, but i think it's nice to compare the 2 option before i decided what to get.
How well I did not buy Roland - TR-09! Thanks Arturia! Its mutch better!
I think a lot feel that way. Not had my hands on a TR-09 to compare though.
As I can see, my drumbrute sound totally different, and not slightly noticeable, I'm talking about my snare noise is way crunchie and harsh, aswell as my hi-hats, which I didn't notice until this video. I don't really care that much about those because I understand there are some differences in every analog machine, but my maracas have completely died, and didn't even sound like this video at first, they just degraded to a point where I can not even hear them.
That sounds very odd, this is a dry recording so you're hearing how the unit was. This might have been a pre production unit with the distributor I recorded it with but I don't remember them mentioning any differences.
how much?
£399 Source Distribution say in the video but seen £379 listed on their video.
you know... it's funny I read reviews about the cymbals and hats and hear people complain about how they sound metallic... then i just have to raise my eyebrow.
I didn't feel much against the hats at the time. But I haven't had one since so can't really comment.
WANT.
US price is...?
not sure. Searching around I'm seeing $499
Great for the price tag but Dave smith Tempest is still the king but of course 5 times expensive ...
well at many times the price that's fair enough I think.
Absolutely, no doubt .. Big salute to Arturia because Roland looks like a scamming company to everyone out there now . I'm glad for seeing this DrumBrute because the customer gets enough value for their hard earn money rather than those digital Roland crap with inflated price Tag !!! ...
I own a Tempest though but i will try to give this a try because of the work flow ..
Thank you ARTURIA ..
Moms Spagheddi Okay good . Haven't tried it , maybe if they release a new one .
we get to see the guy with the shaky hands off future music lol
haha is that me or the other guy? We've both been on the FM videos.
need more cowbell :)
haha
Surprised no one has whined about the 1/8 inch output jacks yet.
not much room to do 12 1/4" outputs to be fair.