Definitely. I used red red to tint back my platinum to go brunette. A year later, I lightened to go red, so I used neutral to fill the lightened hair. Excellent results each time
I know this video is old, but still super helpful. I've been platinum for 3 years now and thinking of going a level 6 Auburn or copper red. I know I'm high porosity, so definitely think I'm going to use a filler. I also love this haircut!
Tiger Pup ....thank you for doing this tutorial....WAY too many don't understand POROSITY.....i tell people all the time it's a primer for your paint (color) ....
I want to bleach and tone my roots to match the rest of my platinum hair. Do I use a filler between each round of bleach? Do I wait til before I tone? Should I do it a few days before I bleach, to protect my hair? So many questions. But great video! It helps to see that application
Great question! I would do the filler a few days before or after the lightening & toning process but I'm leaning moreso to using it after Lighten & tone as usual (without the filler) so you won't have to worry about it diluting the toner to the point where it becomes ineffective. Plus we wouldn't want to risk protein overload by applying the filler before & After which can strengthen the hair but also leave it more dry, brittle & susceptible to breakage. That's what I would do. Thanks for watching, commenting & good luck!
Such a helpful video and clearly explained!! You can tell you are passionate 😍 Had no idea about conditioner being an alternative to filler.. will be great to compare conditioner vs fillers halves 🥳I'm assuming you'd normally do mid-lengths and ends first starting from bottom of head so easy to lie hair downwards as each section done and then roots last to avoid the warmth of skin creating high lift or hot roots (being lighter and brighter then ends)?
Hi & thanks for watching and commenting! And thanks for your kind words! I really appreciate that! That sounds like a great idea to color a manikin head with one side using a conditioner as filler and the other side using an actual filler! Thanks for that! Now on to you second question; because this application was deposit in this video I would apply the color from the roots to ends. If I were lifting the color I would apply mid-lengths & ends then do the roots to avoid hot roots. I hope that helps. Thanks, Tinks!
Thanks! Hi, that's a good question. Not so sure about long hair but I did feature at least three black manikins on my channel. The 1st one can be found here on his and her hair goods website but she gotten much lighter than when I purchased her but her hair is very natural. Here's a link to that website: www.hisandher.com/gloria-head.html I also did a video featuring this mannequin (her name is Gloria on the website) The link is here: Demi permanent haircolor tutorial with protein filler th-cam.com/video/61lq6OkMenA/w-d-xo.html I also did a video with another manikin but I think her hair was supposed to have a relaxed hair texture. Her name was "Yolanda" Here's a link to that video here: Unboxing and review of "Yolanda" mannequin th-cam.com/video/TDfFpeYa9x4/w-d-xo.html And finally there's another manikin I did a video(review) on. Her name was "Shanice" and her hair was very straight and didn't resemble natural hair at all but she was still a great manikin. The link is here: "Shanice" mannequin head review & demo th-cam.com/video/LyUXNR1tOuU/w-d-xo.html So when you get a chance take a look at these manikin heads. I'm curious know what you think of them so please let me know. I hope that helped maybe pointing you in the direction of getting a black manikin that might suit your needs. Thanks for watching!
This video was so helpful! I have cooper hair and want to get a lighter cooper but whenever I dye it it turns into a dark reddish cooper. What color filler would you recommend?
Good question. It's very hard to make a recommendation without an actual consultation. But for curiosities sake, what do u mean u dye it? Is this a permanent, demi permanent or semi permanent haircolor? Just a thought maybe you can get highlights & tone them into the lighter copper color u were looking for. You'll have plenty dimension & it's much easier than lightening all of ur hair provided u perform a strand & allergy test beforehand As for a filler, if the RED filler isn't available, I would recommend the NEUTRAL. Thanks for watching and commenting
@@TigrePup thanks for your reply. I used Igora 7-57 with a 7-77 with 20 volume developer permanent color and it turned out a dark red. Darker than the color I had. I’m guessing my hair is very porus. So I used a color remover and im back to a medium cooper. I guess I might try the neutral filler because my hair tends to go to the red dark side. I just wants a lighter bright copper. It looks very dull right now.
I know this is pretty old, I currently have a bronde color. I dyed my hair a chocolate brown and got highlights so it’s bronde. I hate the color and want to go for light brown. Would I need a filler even if hair shades are similar?
You shouldn't because I'm assuming you're moving less than 2-3 levels but I would do a STRAND TEST just in case. Also is sure that you use a NEUTRAL haircolor in your formulation. This makes sure your resulting color doesn't come up green or something. I hope that helps. Good luck to u Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@TigrePup thank you so much! so can I shower, wash my hair (no conditioner), then come out and apply the filler while my hair is wet or should i blow dry then apply it? Also, do you apply the hair color while the filler is still on the hair (the hair is already wet and have the filler on too, will the color stick that way?) Thank you
I have a problem. Okay I have many problems but this particular problem is that the neutral protein filler is for use on damp hair 20 minutes before applying dye but my dye (Ion Color Brilliance) says it’s for use on dry hair. It also says you can just add it into your dye mix and apply it all at once…but if I’m applying my dye mix to dry hair will the filler even work?? I’ve been researching this for 3 days now…what’s the worst that could happen using the the Ion dye on damp hair? Uneven color grab? Or will the protein filler prevent that? The color turns out lighter? Back in the day I would just do it and whatever happened happened but I’m getting more cautious with age lol
Great question! Yes the filler will work. I'm thinking that the haircolor manufacturer (Ion) didn't assume that the regular consumer would/will use a filler. So yes typically fillers r applied in this manner then topped with haircolor. I have 2 videos showing how I used a filler and they're applied in the same way: Demi color & protein filler tutorial th-cam.com/video/61lq6OkMenA/w-d-xo.html A haircolor filler comparison: should you use a filler or not? th-cam.com/video/Hoac9nE-LP0/w-d-xo.html Also you can search TH-cam for "How to apply haircolor filler" or something like that for further reference. Also I just grabbed a bottle of filler and yes you can mix the filler with your haircolor formula but notice it's only mixed after the haircolor was applied to the roots first in full strength & THEN the filler can be mixed with the remainder of the color to be applied to mid-lengths and ends. I'm thinking that's for a color refresh & not for a virgin application. So please be careful with that. Thanks for watching and commenting! And good luck!
@@TigrePup Thank you so much! I didn’t expect you to reply because rarely does that ever happen so this is exciting for me, lol. I’ve watched so many filler videos but none specifically addressed me questions until you did. What I ended up doing is buying a bottle of Ion pre-color treatment porosity equalizer and spraying that on my dry hair avoiding my new growth and then going ahead with the Ion Color Brilliance and it came out perfect, but now I feel safe using the protein filler next time thanks to you! ♥️
@@TigrePup I didn’t need this answer, but I know how it feels to search for an answer for days and still not be sure about what step to take. It made me happy that you not only replied, but gave this commenter a straightforward & thorough response. 🥇
Hi! Thanks for watching and commenting. My apologies I forgot to mention that I used a volume 10 because in this particular case I only needed deposit only with no lift.
Hi, I'm not sure what do you mean "it's not taking" Are u using a permanent haircolor or lightener? Was the hair previously permanently colored? Did u use henna at any point? It's very difficult to offer a solution without assessing the hair in question. The only advice that I can give u if ur having trouble is to seek the help of a professional haircolorist preferably one u researched to be knowledgeable Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Thanks for watching and commenting
Question- I am going a ginger color would like it more on the neutral ginger color then a super orange color… I’m going from red and pink hair to this… should I use a brown protein filler (my hair will most likely be orangey blonde) or should I be safe and use the non- colored one?
Hi, sorry it took me a minute to respond but I wanted to process my thoughts so I can give you my best possible answer. Plus it's really hard make a suggestion without a consultation and the terminology being used may be alittle bit confusing. Ok I wasn't sure what a ginger haircolor was so when I looked it up it says it's a tone that falls between "somewhere between a strawberry blonde and the classic red. A common nickname for all redheads, the tone true to the name has more orange in it than the subtler strawberry-blonde and less red as the middle tone classic red." Which SOUNDS like you will most likely end up being which is the orangey blonde you mentioned. I personally wouldn't use a filler in this case if you're going to use a semi-permanent-hair-color. I say this because you mention you'll use either a neutral or brown filler when you could just use a semi-permanent-hair-color in the shade (mixing a brown & the ginger) you want and skip two step process. Plus I've personally never used a filler for a semi-permanent-hair-color only for demi permanent haircolor. So that doesn't mean it's not possible. I hope this makes sense. Let me know what you will do and the results because I'm curious to see how it all turns out Thanks for commenting and watching.
Hi and thanks for watching and commenting. I'm not exactly sure what you mean but I will attempt to answer your question This product fills in hair and evens porosity BEFORE coloring the hair so that the final resulting color will be even throughout. So I would suggest that you bleach your hair first then apply this product before toning or recoloring your hair. However if your intention is to use this product as a repairing treatment then I suppose you can use it to strengthen hair before bleaching. I hope that helps. Good luck!
@@TigrePup thank you! You're so sweet to reply. I'm right now trying it before I bleach, leaving it in. Never done this before but my hair is needing the extra help. Hopefully it doesn't affect the lifting. I'll let y'all know if feel it did anything. God bless!
You're very welcome! I really hope you're applying the bleach on dry hair. Either way I am curious to find out how things turned out. I hope the results are great! Good luck!
You're very welcome! Yes they are expensive thats why I try really hard not to "scalp" them all at once🤣 but I wanna try so many different things so I know I have to practice.
Love the sound of your voice, and how how you deliver/present information. Thank you
Wow, thank you!
Definitely. I used red red to tint back my platinum to go brunette. A year later, I lightened to go red, so I used neutral to fill the lightened hair. Excellent results each time
This was EXTREMELY helpful and informative! Thank you soooo much for taking the time to record and post this! ❤
Thanks, I really appreciate the acknowledgment!
thank you for this Great video, We need a video explaining the difference between the types of protein filler( red-red and natural and Platinum.
That's a great idea! I'll see what I can do.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
You are absolutely amazing. I am in awe over your art, and creations you have learned how to do with hair and makeup.
Thank you so much!!❤️
Thank you so much for explaining it, I finally understood the reason behind the using a filler 👍🏼
You're very welcome!
Looks FANTASTIC!! I'm getting my haircolor filler right NOW!
Thanks!
I know this video is old, but still super helpful. I've been platinum for 3 years now and thinking of going a level 6 Auburn or copper red. I know I'm high porosity, so definitely think I'm going to use a filler. I also love this haircut!
Thanks!😊
@@TigrePup I'm also wanting to go from blonde to copper. Would I use a neutral protein filler or a red pigmented one?
Great video, I enjoyed watching it! This definitely helped me as far as the application before coloring. Loved the haircut as well!
Thanks! Glad to be of help!
Great video! So helpful and descriptive. I love the details and pictures too! Thank you!
Thanks!
Tiger Pup ....thank you for doing this tutorial....WAY too many don't understand POROSITY.....i tell people all the time it's a primer for your paint (color) ....
Thanks! I really appreciate you saying that!
@@TigrePup your very welcome....your a natural at teaching technique
Amazing video. Thank you!!! 🙏🏻 ❤
Thanks! ❤️
Keeping it REAL 👍This lady knows her shit, pardon my french" but she's got the knowledge!
Hi thanks for the comment but I'm not a woman I am a MAN👀
@@TigrePup Lol. For what it’s worth, I had no doubt whatsoever listening to you that you’re a man. Thank you for this very helpful video btw!
I love your style and you have just taught me so much. P.s. i remember those commercials
Wow thanks!😊 I glad to hear that you learned from me- I really appreciate that! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Very pretty! I want that color and haircut!!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Awesome video!! THANK YOU!!❤❤
Glad you liked it!!
Thank you so much, it helped me alot😊
Ur welcome thanks for watching and commenting!
I want to bleach and tone my roots to match the rest of my platinum hair. Do I use a filler between each round of bleach? Do I wait til before I tone? Should I do it a few days before I bleach, to protect my hair? So many questions. But great video! It helps to see that application
Great question!
I would do the filler a few days before or after the lightening & toning process but I'm leaning moreso to using it after
Lighten & tone as usual (without the filler) so you won't have to worry about it diluting the toner to the point where it becomes ineffective.
Plus we wouldn't want to risk protein overload by applying the filler before & After which can strengthen the hair but also leave it more dry, brittle & susceptible to breakage.
That's what I would do.
Thanks for watching, commenting & good luck!
Gorgeous
Thanks!
Such a helpful video and clearly explained!! You can tell you are passionate 😍 Had no idea about conditioner being an alternative to filler.. will be great to compare conditioner vs fillers halves 🥳I'm assuming you'd normally do mid-lengths and ends first starting from bottom of head so easy to lie hair downwards as each section done and then roots last to avoid the warmth of skin creating high lift or hot roots (being lighter and brighter then ends)?
Hi & thanks for watching and commenting!
And thanks for your kind words!
I really appreciate that!
That sounds like a great idea to color a manikin head with one side using a conditioner as filler and the other side using an actual filler!
Thanks for that!
Now on to you second question; because this application was deposit in this video I would apply the color from the roots to ends.
If I were lifting the color I would apply mid-lengths & ends then do the roots to avoid hot roots.
I hope that helps.
Thanks, Tinks!
Very good,, question Why is it so difficult to find beautiful black mannequin heads with long natural hair that's even from root to tip?
Thanks!
Hi, that's a good question.
Not so sure about long hair but I did feature at least three black manikins on my channel.
The 1st one can be found here on his and her hair goods website but she gotten much lighter than when I purchased her but her hair is very natural.
Here's a link to that website:
www.hisandher.com/gloria-head.html
I also did a video featuring this mannequin (her name is Gloria on the website)
The link is here:
Demi permanent haircolor tutorial with protein filler
th-cam.com/video/61lq6OkMenA/w-d-xo.html
I also did a video with another manikin but I think her hair was supposed to have a relaxed hair texture.
Her name was "Yolanda"
Here's a link to that video here:
Unboxing and review of "Yolanda" mannequin
th-cam.com/video/TDfFpeYa9x4/w-d-xo.html
And finally there's another manikin
I did a video(review) on.
Her name was "Shanice" and her hair was very straight and didn't resemble natural hair at all but she was still a great manikin.
The link is here:
"Shanice" mannequin head review & demo
th-cam.com/video/LyUXNR1tOuU/w-d-xo.html
So when you get a chance take a look at these manikin heads.
I'm curious know what you think of them so please let me know.
I hope that helped maybe pointing you in the direction of getting a black manikin that might suit your needs.
Thanks for watching!
Great job thanks!
Thank you too!
EXCELLENT video 🙌🏻Ty!
Thank you so much and you're very welcome!😊
This video was so helpful! I have cooper hair and want to get a lighter cooper but whenever I dye it it turns into a dark reddish cooper. What color filler would you recommend?
Good question. It's very hard to make a recommendation without an actual consultation.
But for curiosities sake, what do u mean u dye it? Is this a permanent, demi permanent or semi permanent haircolor?
Just a thought maybe you can get highlights & tone them into the lighter copper color u were looking for.
You'll have plenty dimension & it's much easier than lightening all of ur hair provided u perform a strand & allergy test beforehand
As for a filler, if the RED filler isn't available, I would recommend the NEUTRAL.
Thanks for watching and commenting
@@TigrePup thanks for your reply. I used Igora 7-57 with a 7-77 with 20 volume developer permanent color and it turned out a dark red. Darker than the color I had. I’m guessing my hair is very porus. So I used a color remover and im back to a medium cooper. I guess I might try the neutral filler because my hair tends to go to the red dark side. I just wants a lighter bright copper. It looks very dull right now.
Wats ur hairs natural level? R u a licensed cosmetologist by any chance?
I know this is pretty old, I currently have a bronde color. I dyed my hair a chocolate brown and got highlights so it’s bronde. I hate the color and want to go for light brown. Would I need a filler even if hair shades are similar?
You shouldn't because I'm assuming you're moving less than 2-3 levels but I would do a STRAND TEST just in case.
Also is sure that you use a NEUTRAL haircolor in your formulation.
This makes sure your resulting color doesn't come up green or something.
I hope that helps.
Good luck to u
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Thank you for this great video, does the hair have to be clean (no hair spray or leave in product) before applying protein filler?
Yes the hair needs to be clean. Thanks for watching
@@TigrePup thank you so much! so can I shower, wash my hair (no conditioner), then come out and apply the filler while my hair is wet or should i blow dry then apply it? Also, do you apply the hair color while the filler is still on the hair (the hair is already wet and have the filler on too, will the color stick that way?) Thank you
I have a problem. Okay I have many problems but this particular problem is that the neutral protein filler is for use on damp hair 20 minutes before applying dye but my dye (Ion Color Brilliance) says it’s for use on dry hair. It also says you can just add it into your dye mix and apply it all at once…but if I’m applying my dye mix to dry hair will the filler even work?? I’ve been researching this for 3 days now…what’s the worst that could happen using the the Ion dye on damp hair? Uneven color grab? Or will the protein filler prevent that? The color turns out lighter? Back in the day I would just do it and whatever happened happened but I’m getting more cautious with age lol
Great question!
Yes the filler will work.
I'm thinking that the haircolor manufacturer (Ion) didn't assume that the regular consumer would/will use a filler.
So yes typically fillers r applied in this manner then topped with haircolor.
I have 2 videos showing how I used a filler and they're applied in the same way:
Demi color & protein filler tutorial
th-cam.com/video/61lq6OkMenA/w-d-xo.html
A haircolor filler comparison: should you use a filler or not?
th-cam.com/video/Hoac9nE-LP0/w-d-xo.html
Also you can search TH-cam for "How to apply haircolor filler" or something like that for further reference.
Also I just grabbed a bottle of filler and yes you can mix the filler with your haircolor formula but notice it's only mixed after the haircolor was applied to the roots first in full strength & THEN the filler can be mixed with the remainder of the color to be applied to mid-lengths and ends.
I'm thinking that's for a color refresh & not for a virgin application.
So please be careful with that.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
And good luck!
@@TigrePup Thank you so much! I didn’t expect you to reply because rarely does that ever happen so this is exciting for me, lol. I’ve watched so many filler videos but none specifically addressed me questions until you did. What I ended up doing is buying a bottle of Ion pre-color treatment porosity equalizer and spraying that on my dry hair avoiding my new growth and then going ahead with the Ion Color Brilliance and it came out perfect, but now I feel safe using the protein filler next time thanks to you! ♥️
Great! I'm so glad it worked out for you! 😊
Also thanks for letting me know how things turned out because I'm always curious about that.
@@TigrePup I didn’t need this answer, but I know how it feels to search for an answer for days and still not be sure about what step to take. It made me happy that you not only replied, but gave this commenter a straightforward & thorough response. 🥇
@@urgunnaluvmeh Thanks!😊
Hii loved the result! My question is did you use a developer with the ion? thanks :)
Hi!
Thanks for watching and commenting.
My apologies I forgot to mention that I used a volume 10 because in this particular case I only needed deposit only with no lift.
So my daughter bleach her hair blond and now she wants a ginger color but the color is not taking what can I do to help her hair take color?
Hi, I'm not sure what do you mean "it's not taking"
Are u using a permanent haircolor or lightener?
Was the hair previously permanently colored?
Did u use henna at any point?
It's very difficult to offer a solution without assessing the hair in question.
The only advice that I can give u if ur having trouble is to seek the help of a professional haircolorist preferably one u researched to be knowledgeable
Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
Thanks for watching and commenting
Question- I am going a ginger color would like it more on the neutral ginger color then a super orange color… I’m going from red and pink hair to this… should I use a brown protein filler (my hair will most likely be orangey blonde) or should I be safe and use the non- colored one?
The ginger is a semi permanent doesn’t need developer btw
Hi, sorry it took me a minute to respond but I wanted to process my thoughts so I can give you my best possible answer.
Plus it's really hard make a suggestion without a consultation and the terminology being used may be alittle bit confusing.
Ok I wasn't sure what a ginger haircolor was so when I looked it up it says it's a tone that falls between "somewhere between a strawberry blonde and the classic red.
A common nickname for all redheads, the tone true to the name has more orange in it than the subtler strawberry-blonde and less red as the middle tone classic red."
Which SOUNDS like you will most likely end up being which is the orangey blonde you mentioned.
I personally wouldn't use a filler in this case if you're going to use a semi-permanent-hair-color.
I say this because you mention you'll use either a neutral or brown filler when you could just use a semi-permanent-hair-color in the shade (mixing a brown & the ginger) you want and skip two step process.
Plus I've personally never used a filler for a semi-permanent-hair-color only for demi permanent haircolor.
So that doesn't mean it's not possible.
I hope this makes sense.
Let me know what you will do and the results because I'm curious to see how it all turns out
Thanks for commenting and watching.
Can you use Demi permanent hair color?
Yes you can. Just follow the instructions for the filler.
Thank you so much! Can you use prior to bleaching?
Hi and thanks for watching and commenting.
I'm not exactly sure what you mean but I will attempt to answer your question
This product fills in hair and evens porosity BEFORE coloring the hair so that the final resulting color will be even throughout.
So I would suggest that you bleach your hair first then apply this product before toning or recoloring your hair.
However if your intention is to use this product as a repairing treatment then I suppose you can use it to strengthen hair before bleaching.
I hope that helps.
Good luck!
@@TigrePup thank you! You're so sweet to reply. I'm right now trying it before I bleach, leaving it in. Never done this before but my hair is needing the extra help. Hopefully it doesn't affect the lifting. I'll let y'all know if feel it did anything. God bless!
You're very welcome!
I really hope you're applying the bleach on dry hair.
Either way I am curious to find out how things turned out.
I hope the results are great!
Good luck!
Suggestion: talk about fast hair growth shampoo to double hair growth.
Thanks for the suggestion. I will try 2 research this more
Why did you color the roots first?
Generally speaking when going LIGHTER you go mid lengths to roots
When going DARKER you go roots to ends
If you have blonde hair and you want to color it red can I use a red protein filler to fill up the blonde parts.
Yes but you'll have to follow that with either a demi or permanent haircolor. It's in the instructions on the bottle for optimal results
Ty for your help .
Ur welcome. Good luck
Nooo. Blonde doesn’t have red underneath. It has gold and soft orange tones.
Does color filler damage the hair before dying the hair?
No it doesn't.
It's a protein filler which is meant to strengthen the hair before haircolor
Where is this manikin from?
As for this particular mannequin it is from GIELL beauty supply
Her name is Selena.
She's classified as a "competition mannequin"
@@TigrePup thank you, I'm licensed and 100% human hair mannequins are expensive lol
You're very welcome!
Yes they are expensive thats why I try really hard not to "scalp" them all at once🤣 but I wanna try so many different things so I know I have to practice.
@@TigrePup me too! I'd rather practice on one of those first before someone's real hair haha
🌹🌹🌹
Thanks!!😊
Great video, I enjoyed watching it! This definitely helped me as far as the application before coloring.
Stopped torturing that poor head, 😂
🤣
😂😂