Being needy is bad. But slight persistence is actually a good thing. Especially in the beginning when she hasn't even met you yet and has zero emotional investment. A lot of guys give up way too easily when they get a girl's number, exchange a few texts, and she doesn't respond. They figure she is "ghosting" due to lack of interest and give up. These days, most girls tend to be a bit flaky/non responsive w/short attn spans in the beginning. Especially with how many options they have on apps and social media. So it takes a bit more work to build rapport and emotional investment.
This advice feels extremely genuine and grounded, compared to so many of the con-artists selling snake oil on TH-cam to young men. Its smart and concise. Exactly what I was looking for, thanks!
“Women are hard-wired to look for the guy that is persistent.” I’m seriously wondering how true this is. My brother in law was very persistent with my sister, even though she turned him down several times, but she eventually gave in. I want to be persistent but at the same time I’m afraid that I’ll come across as creepy and gain a bad reputation in my circles. For now, I’ll just keep praying about it and letting my last persistent move do its work, if any.
Great advice. I'm going to take it. What is the difference between someone who'll "walk through the fire and not give up" and an enabler of bad behavior/personality disorders?
Timeframe is everything, if you are 'persistent' with a woman and send three messages in one week most woman will fell they are rushed. If you wait longer than one week to send the second message, most woman will fell smoothed. Anyway sending a third message is always a bad ideea, that is usually the quit or surrender message in any context.
I use to live in the Philippines and texting is still a huge thing over thered, people send 400million text a day and I thought the world outside was the same thing.... then I found out the hard way when alot of girls match with me on dating apps, but I couldn't keep them every single time... because I talk tooooooooo much in the text 😂😂😂😂 I guess I need to change my culture, im too feminine just by the text
How about no formulas, no strategies and no hassle. People overthink these things and most of the people you think you want aren’t worth the time of day.
If a woman wants to date a guy she lets him know and makes it easy to set a date. If she won't respond in a day. I unlike her. If plans come up when I ask her out or she is unsure. She is out. Don't waste time for women who don't care or have you on backup waiting on Chad whom she really wants
To be honest, guys nowadays get confused and you can't blame them they are told If a girl tells them no it means no,and they should take a hike, but quite recently I had a conversation with a European lady who actually told me that she likes a guy who is persistent even after saying no, and she told me she accepted a date offer from a Guy after he used humor in the second attempt. So my question to You Emma does a woman accept a second or third attempt from a guy if he is funny and good looking only or any just any guy can be persistent
@@emlovz Looks do absolutely matter to women, and I say that as a woman myself. Stop pretending otherwise. It just makes ugly men think that they're entitled to beautiful women, while making no effort to work on their own appearances.
It is nearly impossible to come across as non-needy if you are persistent. So if being persistent is good that means being needy is also good (sometimes). What's wrong with being needy anyway? If any person who is trying to date claims I don't need no man (or woman) is a stupid delusional fool. They have emotional and zexual needs.
That's the worst advice I've ever heard. When a woman does not want you, shes not playing hard to get, she doesn't want you to try harder, she wants you gone.
Women: No means no! Don’t double text! Respect women’s boundaries! If a woman shows you signs of disinterest, take a hint! ALSO WOMEN: Here’s how to get a girl who’s maybe not that into you or is showing signs of disinterest. -- LOL seriously, ladies.. at this point, it’s like watching a child trying to stick a round block into a square hole over and over again and getting mad at the people who gave him the toy instead of looking at what HE’S doing. “But, the women who say the top line aren’t necessarily the same women who say the bottom line.” That’s beside the point. The point is that the “top line women” should be spending at least some time telling other women to stop encouraging the behavior that they’re deeming to be cancel-worthy if some male dating coach was caught saying it or something. Enough w/this cognitive dissonance, ladies. Time to grow up.
Tinder and 'persistence' equals a non sens. All the womans on tinder, and I mean all with no exceptions, have interelation issues and sadly said they are poor comunicators. Communication has nothing to do with persistence, persistence being actually where you use your best intentions and do an effort against someone who can't or does not want to be present. Sorry to say it, in this video you justify the problems of this women and give men lessons how to deal with them. In the end that is still nothing more then manipulation.
Here's my strategy as a woman: If I find the guy attractive, I wait for him to message me at least 3 times before I respond. If he gives up after one or two messages, he's just not that into me and that's okay. I accept it and move on. If I find the guy unattractive, I ignore the first message and block him after the second message. One thing that I never do is respond to a guy to tell him I'm not interested. It's a waste of time.
The problem with that is that if the guy is self conscious, he'll stop texting when he notices you're not responding because he thinks that means YOU'RE not interested.
Wow... What's it like being an absolutely terrible human being? "Thanks but I'm just not interested." That's how easy it is to treat other people correctly. You are human garbage...
If you're this immature, you shouldn't be dating. But it seems like someone who does is already removing themselves from the dating pool. Thanks to natural selection of course.
How have you bridged the gap between persistence and neediness?
what ways did you make it difficult at first for your current boyfriend
Being needy is bad. But slight persistence is actually a good thing. Especially in the beginning when she hasn't even met you yet and has zero emotional investment.
A lot of guys give up way too easily when they get a girl's number, exchange a few texts, and she doesn't respond. They figure she is "ghosting" due to lack of interest and give up.
These days, most girls tend to be a bit flaky/non responsive w/short attn spans in the beginning. Especially with how many options they have on apps and social media. So it takes a bit more work to build rapport and emotional investment.
Very well said
I'm in this same situation right now, debating if I should go for it again...she was the one that gave me her number lol
This advice feels extremely genuine and grounded, compared to so many of the con-artists selling snake oil on TH-cam to young men. Its smart and concise. Exactly what I was looking for, thanks!
Thank you!!!! We’ve been coaching men over at emlovz for 10+ years now. Just kinda new to TH-cam :)
“Women are hard-wired to look for the guy that is persistent.” I’m seriously wondering how true this is. My brother in law was very persistent with my sister, even though she turned him down several times, but she eventually gave in. I want to be persistent but at the same time I’m afraid that I’ll come across as creepy and gain a bad reputation in my circles. For now, I’ll just keep praying about it and letting my last persistent move do its work, if any.
I teach how to be persistent without being creepy in my program. Check it out at emlovz.com
You were initially attracted to him so there is a big difference if you were not attracted to him then doesn’t matter how persistent he is
Great advice, gave me great tips.
Thank you! Glad it was helpful
Great video you are amazing young lady. I really enjoy your videos so much. Thank you
Thank you so much!
Great advice. I'm going to take it. What is the difference between someone who'll "walk through the fire and not give up" and an enabler of bad behavior/personality disorders?
If I ask a woman out and she says no in any form, including no reply, I am not asking again lest I be called a creep or worse.
And what if she starts the "play hard to get game"? I don't play that BS game
Timeframe is everything, if you are 'persistent' with a woman and send three messages in one week most woman will fell they are rushed. If you wait longer than one week to send the second message, most woman will fell smoothed.
Anyway sending a third message is always a bad ideea, that is usually the quit or surrender message in any context.
16:16 I've seen other dating coaches very strongly advise against a "text me when you get home" message as it can come across as needy and low value.
I wonder if those dating coaches help men find love, like us
Thanks!
Relationshps are trial & error. You learn by failing, You learn more from rejection than acceptance. But, confidence is sexy.
youre a bold person ! thank you !
You’re welcome :)
I use to live in the Philippines and texting is still a huge thing over thered, people send 400million text a day and I thought the world outside was the same thing.... then I found out the hard way when alot of girls match with me on dating apps, but I couldn't keep them every single time... because I talk tooooooooo much in the text 😂😂😂😂 I guess I need to change my culture, im too feminine just by the text
How about no formulas, no strategies and no hassle. People overthink these things and most of the people you think you want aren’t worth the time of day.
Geez, I feel like I need a masters degree in psychology to know how women work.
You got a great show love your adviice keep up the great show
Thanks! You can join my free community here as well: facebook.com/groups/thedatingformula
Emily I loved this video by you because you were more of being you
If a woman wants to date a guy she lets him know and makes it easy to set a date. If she won't respond in a day. I unlike her. If plans come up when I ask her out or she is unsure. She is out. Don't waste time for women who don't care or have you on backup waiting on Chad whom she really wants
Always know your value. Yep!
To be honest, guys nowadays get confused and you can't blame them they are told If a girl tells them no it means no,and they should take a hike, but quite recently I had a conversation with a European lady who actually told me that she likes a guy who is persistent even after saying no, and she told me she accepted a date offer from a Guy after he used humor in the second attempt. So my question to You Emma does a woman accept a second or third attempt from a guy if he is funny and good looking only or any just any guy can be persistent
Absolutely. Just don’t be creepy. Sometimes women will accept a 5th attempt. Looks don’t matter as much to women, as they do men.
@@emlovz I disagree with that..
@@emlovz Looks do absolutely matter to women, and I say that as a woman myself. Stop pretending otherwise. It just makes ugly men think that they're entitled to beautiful women, while making no effort to work on their own appearances.
It is nearly impossible to come across as non-needy if you are persistent. So if being persistent is good that means being needy is also good (sometimes). What's wrong with being needy anyway? If any person who is trying to date claims I don't need no man (or woman) is a stupid delusional fool. They have emotional and zexual needs.
Some men have the problem of seeming needy- I’m un-needy to a fault. Women say I come across as aloof.
Lol. And you’re humble
You concede it's a test but a minute later are saying don't play games. You should iron this vid out and repost it -- MW
How long have you been a dating coach Mike?
Yes, Mike, all negative feedback is obviously invalid when the person providing it has less experience...at least that's how people with issues think.
That's the worst advice I've ever heard.
When a woman does not want you, shes not playing hard to get, she doesn't want you to try harder, she wants you gone.
Love letters after sex? Shouldn’t you love someone and be committed before sex?! Otherwise, outstanding concise advice.
Woman are hardwired to look for men that are persistent?!
Yep
Women: No means no! Don’t double text! Respect women’s boundaries! If a woman shows you signs of disinterest, take a hint!
ALSO WOMEN: Here’s how to get a girl who’s maybe not that into you or is showing signs of disinterest.
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LOL seriously, ladies.. at this point, it’s like watching a child trying to stick a round block into a square hole over and over again and getting mad at the people who gave him the toy instead of looking at what HE’S doing.
“But, the women who say the top line aren’t necessarily the same women who say the bottom line.”
That’s beside the point. The point is that the “top line women” should be spending at least some time telling other women to stop encouraging the behavior that they’re deeming to be cancel-worthy if some male dating coach was caught saying it or something.
Enough w/this cognitive dissonance, ladies. Time to grow up.
Tinder and 'persistence' equals a non sens. All the womans on tinder, and I mean all with no exceptions, have interelation issues and sadly said they are poor comunicators.
Communication has nothing to do with persistence, persistence being actually where you use your best intentions and do an effort against someone who can't or does not want to be present.
Sorry to say it, in this video you justify the problems of this women and give men lessons how to deal with them. In the end that is still nothing more then manipulation.
Tinder gender ratio is 9 females to 1 male. Did you know that?
@@emlovzno it's not 🤣🤣🤣 there are way more men on tinder than women
Here's my strategy as a woman:
If I find the guy attractive, I wait for him to message me at least 3 times before I respond. If he gives up after one or two messages, he's just not that into me and that's okay. I accept it and move on.
If I find the guy unattractive, I ignore the first message and block him after the second message.
One thing that I never do is respond to a guy to tell him I'm not interested. It's a waste of time.
The problem with that is that if the guy is self conscious, he'll stop texting when he notices you're not responding because he thinks that means YOU'RE not interested.
I do that with women. Men should not message more than twice as the third message shows her I am desperate
Wow... What's it like being an absolutely terrible human being? "Thanks but I'm just not interested." That's how easy it is to treat other people correctly. You are human garbage...
I will never message a girl 3 times in a row with no response. Clearly she couldn't be that interested in me and I will happily move on.
If you're this immature, you shouldn't be dating. But it seems like someone who does is already removing themselves from the dating pool. Thanks to natural selection of course.
bad language takes away from your message...and I turn it off.
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