Hi pal. I’m new to the zoomer game and been watching all your videos. It’s great to see someone going into the detail you do. Top class. I’ve decided to get the kitaco imap. It’s version 2 now. Plug and play. Only problem I’m having is 1 of the 3 connections are different. The 2 pin one and can’t find any info on how to connect it. Would you have an idea if I was able to send you photos. Best regards. Gavin
Hi Gavin, thanks very much for your comments, glad to hear my videos are of use. Are you sure the iMap you have is designed for the UK FI Zoomer. I remember there was a plug and play iMap but it didn’t attach to the connections in our bikes which is why I had to go through the more complicated job of splicing in the various wires directly. I had a quick look at the Japanese Webbike site, it is showing the V.2 iMap as being for the Honda Grom ? I’m not sure there is a direct plug and play for us. Are you also planning to get the iMap PC Link cable as this allows you to create your own fuel maps. Best wishes, Simon
@@scottishzoomer hi Simon. thanks for the reply. And honestly I haven’t a clue what I ended up getting. I went onto weebike Japan and put in Honda zoomer and I bought the first one I seen. (Stupid I know 😆) 2 of the connections connect perfectly. One on the (fuel tank) pump and another hidden in black cup shape under the seat but then I’m left with a two pin adapter that does not fit like the others. I’m pretty sure it’s meant to connect to the fuel spray nozzle. Your probably right that I got the wrong one. They don’t seem to have the one you’ve gotten off them anymore. I did buy the pc adapter but as I haven’t a clue how to connect this up it’s pretty useless at the minute. My email address is gavinmollloy@gmail.com if you send me a blank email I’ll send you photos of the connection I’m on about and would really appreciate if you could point me in the right direction. No problem at all if you can’t. Thanks again for your help. Regards Gavin
If you want to try the air filter in time, I have made one up in the garage with a 35mm attachment and we can also vary the length so that we keep the torque curve similar. I should imagine your good lady is now a very happy one, not having you walking around the kitchen chuntering to yourself about the bloody imap! 😁
Scooty Man 😄😄, she’ll have an eye on my scooter fund for new sofas 😳 Made some adjustments on the map for tomorrow, air filter looks like it might be the next project so thanks for the offer 👍
Hi, glad to hear you enjoy the videos, much appreciated 👍 As the bike has been off the road since early October I’ve not had a chance to play around more with the iMap. It certainly should increase top speed from the 37mph I get just now (bear in mind I am 16 stone so not a lightweight rider). I also have a Polini air inlet pipe to fit which will increase air supply. As I said in the video the difference in initial acceleration alone transforms the Zoomer. I’m hoping that the delay to the parts I need caused by COVID and Brexit won’t be too much longer and I can get the Zoomer back out on the road 👍
Awesome job! After seeing your videos I'm seriously considering getting a wideband sensor/gauge to check out the mixture on mine, and ajdjust the map on the kitaco accordingly, I ported and polished the intake and run without airbox, just a conic filter on the intake, so I'm guessing I'm running a lot lean. I also have the lamba bypass, but have no idea if that tricks the ECU into sending more fuel. As for yours, you have 500rpms left you can use, the Polini CDI allows for 9500rpm.
Hey Scooty, the intake wall is thick, so i opened up the intake inlet by removing material from the inside making it wider, and buffed up the interior to ensure a smoother flow, not all the way cos there is some science to that, i guess the part closer to the injector benefits from some turbulence but for the rest of it, it was smoothed out and polished.
r1sk3z so you are referring to the boundary layer effect where the air in the centre travels faster than the air on the walls of the manifold which in effect are touching creating turbulence and drag. That’s interesting because I was wondering what would happen if you changed the air velocity by making the air intake in effect small, big and then small again at the inlet port. I thought the science was that you wanted the intake to decrease as it grew closer to the intake port this increasing air velocity but it sounds like you’ve done differently. How did that work out? The other thing I noticed is that you removed the stock air box and replaced with a cone filter. I’m guessing you’re tuning for high rpm then as you have probably lost torque down the bottom and mid range by doing that. I’d be interested to see your results after you got the wideband AFR meter on.
@@scootyman2974the intake manifold design makes it harder (narrower) to work the further you go into it, so I guess, inadvertadlt, I might have done what you said, by widening the opening (filter side) than the injector side, i didnt give it that much though, my goal was just to get increase the air flow. The goal in mine is to break the 100kmh, I was doing 83 on the limiter before the lastest batch of mods, so, yeah I guess you can say I'm tuning for high rpms as I'm trying to get it to hit the limiter again with the longer gears, if it does, I'll be doing 104kmh, so fingers crossed. The bike is still not running, as I'm waiting for some parts for the secondary sliding sheave and the driveface, but as soon as I get it back together, I'll let you know.
r1sk3z thanks for that. It’s just I’m looking closely at my vision engine and where I’ve made the connection to the throttle body the pipe is 35mm that reduces to 28 before connecting to the air filter of 35mm OD and I’m wondering if I’ll get a ripple there because of the reducing rubber pipe. I’m sure I’ll sort it. I’m surprised you haven’t had the cylinder head off and cleaned up the inlet port too. Is that something you’ve done?
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Hi pal. I’m new to the zoomer game and been watching all your videos. It’s great to see someone going into the detail you do. Top class. I’ve decided to get the kitaco imap. It’s version 2 now. Plug and play. Only problem I’m having is 1 of the 3 connections are different. The 2 pin one and can’t find any info on how to connect it. Would you have an idea if I was able to send you photos. Best regards. Gavin
Hi Gavin, thanks very much for your comments, glad to hear my videos are of use. Are you sure the iMap you have is designed for the UK FI Zoomer. I remember there was a plug and play iMap but it didn’t attach to the connections in our bikes which is why I had to go through the more complicated job of splicing in the various wires directly. I had a quick look at the Japanese Webbike site, it is showing the V.2 iMap as being for the Honda Grom ? I’m not sure there is a direct plug and play for us. Are you also planning to get the iMap PC Link cable as this allows you to create your own fuel maps. Best wishes, Simon
@@scottishzoomer hi Simon. thanks for the reply. And honestly I haven’t a clue what I ended up getting. I went onto weebike Japan and put in Honda zoomer and I bought the first one I seen. (Stupid I know 😆) 2 of the connections connect perfectly. One on the (fuel tank) pump and another hidden in black cup shape under the seat but then I’m left with a two pin adapter that does not fit like the others. I’m pretty sure it’s meant to connect to the fuel spray nozzle. Your probably right that I got the wrong one. They don’t seem to have the one you’ve gotten off them anymore. I did buy the pc adapter but as I haven’t a clue how to connect this up it’s pretty useless at the minute. My email address is gavinmollloy@gmail.com if you send me a blank email I’ll send you photos of the connection I’m on about and would really appreciate if you could point me in the right direction. No problem at all if you can’t. Thanks again for your help. Regards Gavin
If you want to try the air filter in time, I have made one up in the garage with a 35mm attachment and we can also vary the length so that we keep the torque curve similar. I should imagine your good lady is now a very happy one, not having you walking around the kitchen chuntering to yourself about the bloody imap! 😁
Scooty Man 😄😄, she’ll have an eye on my scooter fund for new sofas 😳 Made some adjustments on the map for tomorrow, air filter looks like it might be the next project so thanks for the offer 👍
Hi, love your vids. Does it improve top speed wise? How many kmh does it added? Hoping for your reply, thank you so much.
Hi, glad to hear you enjoy the videos, much appreciated 👍 As the bike has been off the road since early October I’ve not had a chance to play around more with the iMap. It certainly should increase top speed from the 37mph I get just now (bear in mind I am 16 stone so not a lightweight rider). I also have a Polini air inlet pipe to fit which will increase air supply. As I said in the video the difference in initial acceleration alone transforms the Zoomer. I’m hoping that the delay to the parts I need caused by COVID and Brexit won’t be too much longer and I can get the Zoomer back out on the road 👍
Awesome job! After seeing your videos I'm seriously considering getting a wideband sensor/gauge to check out the mixture on mine, and ajdjust the map on the kitaco accordingly, I ported and polished the intake and run without airbox, just a conic filter on the intake, so I'm guessing I'm running a lot lean. I also have the lamba bypass, but have no idea if that tricks the ECU into sending more fuel. As for yours, you have 500rpms left you can use, the Polini CDI allows for 9500rpm.
r1sk3z exactly what was it you did to the inlet port when you say ‘ported and polished’. Can you explain what you mean by ‘ported’ please?
Hey Scooty, the intake wall is thick, so i opened up the intake inlet by removing material from the inside making it wider, and buffed up the interior to ensure a smoother flow, not all the way cos there is some science to that, i guess the part closer to the injector benefits from some turbulence but for the rest of it, it was smoothed out and polished.
r1sk3z so you are referring to the boundary layer effect where the air in the centre travels faster than the air on the walls of the manifold which in effect are touching creating turbulence and drag. That’s interesting because I was wondering what would happen if you changed the air velocity by making the air intake in effect small, big and then small again at the inlet port. I thought the science was that you wanted the intake to decrease as it grew closer to the intake port this increasing air velocity but it sounds like you’ve done differently. How did that work out? The other thing I noticed is that you removed the stock air box and replaced with a cone filter. I’m guessing you’re tuning for high rpm then as you have probably lost torque down the bottom and mid range by doing that. I’d be interested to see your results after you got the wideband AFR meter on.
@@scootyman2974the intake manifold design makes it harder (narrower) to work the further you go into it, so I guess, inadvertadlt, I might have done what you said, by widening the opening (filter side) than the injector side, i didnt give it that much though, my goal was just to get increase the air flow. The goal in mine is to break the 100kmh, I was doing 83 on the limiter before the lastest batch of mods, so, yeah I guess you can say I'm tuning for high rpms as I'm trying to get it to hit the limiter again with the longer gears, if it does, I'll be doing 104kmh, so fingers crossed. The bike is still not running, as I'm waiting for some parts for the secondary sliding sheave and the driveface, but as soon as I get it back together, I'll let you know.
r1sk3z thanks for that. It’s just I’m looking closely at my vision engine and where I’ve made the connection to the throttle body the pipe is 35mm that reduces to 28 before connecting to the air filter of 35mm OD and I’m wondering if I’ll get a ripple there because of the reducing rubber pipe. I’m sure I’ll sort it. I’m surprised you haven’t had the cylinder head off and cleaned up the inlet port too. Is that something you’ve done?