Loved this reading! Yesterday I finished reading a book and one of the final quotes came to mind after listening to this. “Poised midway between the unvisualizable cosmic vastness of curved space-time and the dubious, shadowy flickerings of charged quanta, we human beings, more like rainbows and mirages than like raindrops or boulders, are unpredictable self-writing poems - vague, metaphorical, ambiguous, and sometimes exceedingly beautiful.” ~Douglas Hofstadter, I Am A Strange Loop
Yesterday, I watched your Live discussion with Dr. Sledge and immediately subscribed to your channel. I have some questions on esoterica for one or both of you that are unrelated to this video or that discussion. What's the best way to reach you?
Thank you- so inspiring for America today in which we are so lost in this swamp of vulgarity ignorance hate violence to the other side- we are living in an ugly undisciplined political material trump manure. We are desirous for inspiration- vote blue - we must strive to this beauty of the good true justice- Rise america to new collective consciousness - love compassion inspiration innovation .. make america kind
is this essay saying that the divine father and mother of all existence is the source of all beauty and the greatest beauty ? if so , then I agree with plotinus.
DAN URGENT QUESTION I think it's one of your videos or interviews... but there's a story about an old lady in the medieval period who had a magical talisman for many years, which she could not read, that helped her failing vision or something until a traveling seminary student read the Latin inscription to her, and it ends up not saying anything helpful at all but something vulgar and nasty, and the old lady dies shortly after. Know what I'm talking about?
@@TheModernHermeticist thanks for the quick reply Damn this is gonna be hard to find, how the hell do i search for this story...? If it wasn't your program it must have been BTR, which I must add that BTR "crowley" stream was really lame, I remember you just peace'd out cause it was chaotic and like the chat was going after one of the other guests or something. super lame i watched it all live
this is truly the way the supreme source of all existence to be found the fountain of the highest love that radiates as ultimate beauty as goodness as one and the same giving life to ideas that men can perceive in material-world of lesser corporal-beauty,its greatest most shining eternal light full of sublime delight and as god itself that giving soul that everyone as livingbeing into existence and that breathing air and moving in its own time and space as part of creation that lies upon the ultimate source the highest we must to return and unites in irs eternall bliss,that is pure intellect superior to corporal beauty is pure goodness residing in ouer soul as source we any soul is orinate from it!if must believing in a god and follow its way this is most likely the way not is not describable in true definite forms words or concepts because this is above it and ultimate as purest truth as intellect and source of all existence!thanks for this most valueble in dept info about plotinus ideas!
Lovely words. Full of folly. Even for their time. Seperating Sacredness. Dividing “Divinity”. Amalgamating anthropomorphisms and axioms. While few, in a section of this organism, saw themsleves as chosen and seperated by a fabricated and so invisible source.. The majority on the lands of Turtle Island, Anahuac, & Tahuantinsuyu (for as long as they were isolated from the rest of the world) did not believe in seperating the sacred, but instead saw themselves as part of a sacred whole, from the Sun to the Soil. Therefore, what was found to be beautiful, was creation as a whole. Even for our ancestors, it would have been concerning, that the beautiful was being dispised in this manner.
@@TheModernHermeticist I’ll include what I heard, tell me if I misinterpreted it. I’m ok with being corrected. Sacredness, in our native tongues refers to a balanced creation, that balance sustains the endless movement between rest and regeneration. If someone is unbalanced (ie an extremist in an direction) they are no less a sacred creation than one that is balanced. The sun is no more sacred than the soil you just shat on. This is the a priori assumption I begin my analysis with. In “on the beautiful”, ideas of Beauty/The Beautiful/Beauty Itself/Lower Beauty’s and similar terms are used to create a cast system for sacredness. All time stamp are approximate. @9 body becomes beautiful. (Not already beautiful) @11 fire surpasses everything else in beauty (levels established) @13 contemplate a beauty of a higher order 15:12 soul is an eye that perceives real beauty (mentions species of beauty) @18:34 mentions deformed soul : baseness in souls @19:50 so base it becomes impure and looses splendor, pristine beauty destroyed when covered w earth/clay. @21:10 cleansing is required to regain splendor @22:26 ancient oracle declares.. a soul not purified lies immersed in filth. Friends of filth. Delight in mire alone. Temperance is not delight in corporal delights, these things are not pure or offspring of purity. @24 soul defined immortal and divine, incorporeal, intellectual, participates in divine nature which is aligned to what is beautiful and fair. (Meaning there are things unaligned w beauty) Intellect irradiates & adorns inferior powers of the soul. That without its aid would be buried in gloom of formless matter. (Formless matter not as beautiful as formed matter) @25:30 perhaps good and beautiful are the same. And in like manner the base and evil. (Ranks beauty) Soul receives its beauty from intellect. Inferior beauty derived from forming power of soul. (Mankind produces inferior beauty) 26:50 soul desires the good. (Separated from the “bad”) 27:40 matter causes decent from beauty 29:95 mans imagination is a secondary beauty that proceeds from beauty itself. 31:40 Beauty abiding in divine sanctuary that never proceeds from its retreat, so that no profane and vulgar eye may behold it (Because of this) 32: leave corporeal senses behind because creation is a shadow of beauty in order to view true beauty from which lower beauties are derived @33 if you use your senses it will lead you to hell to be deprived of what’s true [beauty]. (separates part of creation into darkness & devoid of beauty) @35 all posses inward eye but few use (some have understanding of sacredness so some rule over others, creating cast system for a completely sacred creation) Worthy men exist worthy souls exist (as opposed to non worthy, base, less beautiful, further from sacredness) @36 in order to be pure of mind you must remove impurities like an artist chisels away and polish until you’re beautiful (because you are not already beautiful being wholly sacred) and wait for the divine to shine upon you (because you are separate from the divine and not already wholly divine) @37 Intellectual minds alone can perceive immense beauty (non intellectuals cannot) @39 everyone (not already god like sacred/divine) must become divine and of a god like beauty Before looking upon a god and the beautiful itself (because we are not already god like and beauty itself) @39 things are the offspring of the superior to all, which is the fountain of good, beauty itself @40 accurately distinguish (separate with a fine line) the beautiful from beauty
Where do you think the teachings of Jesus fit into this? I cant imagine Jesus disapproving of this line of thought. It seems to be "the way" he spoke of.
Please do as many thomas taylor translations as possible. His translations and the books he translated are the most important texts on the earth.
Will do.
I second this request!
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I'm inclined to agree
This was truly beautiful 😍
Thanks Zevi. Looking forward to our Neoplatonism collab.
Loved this reading! Yesterday I finished reading a book and one of the final quotes came to mind after listening to this. “Poised midway between the unvisualizable cosmic vastness of curved space-time and the dubious, shadowy flickerings of charged quanta, we human beings, more like rainbows and mirages than like raindrops or boulders, are unpredictable self-writing poems - vague, metaphorical, ambiguous, and sometimes exceedingly beautiful.” ~Douglas Hofstadter, I Am A Strange Loop
YESSSS I've been waiting for more Plotinus material
Truth and Beauty:Beauty and Truth! Thank You.
Thank you
Wild stuff!
Yes please🙂
speaking of beautiful; what's the image?
Karl Friedrich Schinkel. Everything he did oozed with beauty.
@@TheModernHermeticist thank you 😍
there's a character named Picatrix in the anime Warau Arsnotoria Sun!....I wanted to tell Dan about it
Thank you 🙌🏽
Thanks for listening.
I would love to know where you get these books, they truly are a thing of beauty
Mostly just from archive.org
@@TheModernHermeticist thank you kind sir
Great vid. What is the background image?
Karl Friedrich Schinkel
21:21
Yesterday, I watched your Live discussion with Dr. Sledge and immediately subscribed to your channel. I have some questions on esoterica for one or both of you that are unrelated to this video or that discussion. What's the best way to reach you?
Thank you- so inspiring for America today in which we are so lost in this swamp of vulgarity ignorance hate violence to the other side- we are living in an ugly undisciplined political material trump manure. We are desirous for inspiration- vote blue - we must strive to this beauty of the good true justice-
Rise america to new collective consciousness - love compassion inspiration innovation .. make america kind
is this essay saying that the divine father and mother of all existence is the source of all beauty and the greatest beauty ? if so , then I agree with plotinus.
doing a whole podcast/youtube channel about enneads - dropping soon on a screen near you
DAN URGENT QUESTION
I think it's one of your videos or interviews... but there's a story about an old lady in the medieval period who had a magical talisman for many years, which she could not read, that helped her failing vision or something until a traveling seminary student read the Latin inscription to her, and it ends up not saying anything helpful at all but something vulgar and nasty, and the old lady dies shortly after. Know what I'm talking about?
Alas, first time I've heard of the story. Sorry!
@@TheModernHermeticist thanks for the quick reply
Damn this is gonna be hard to find, how the hell do i search for this story...?
If it wasn't your program it must have been BTR, which I must add that BTR "crowley" stream was really lame, I remember you just peace'd out cause it was chaotic and like the chat was going after one of the other guests or something. super lame i watched it all live
its time for an old fashioned autistic email research campaign
Utilize AI, ask your question to chatGBT. Good luck
@@MichaelStefano-k3b I tried this and ai didn't know of anything, I'm not 100% sure it's a real story, I could have easily dreamed or hallucinated it
this is truly the way the supreme source of all existence to be found the fountain of the highest love that radiates as ultimate beauty as goodness as one and the same giving life to ideas that men can perceive in material-world of lesser corporal-beauty,its greatest most shining eternal light full of sublime delight and as god itself that giving soul that everyone as livingbeing into existence and that breathing air and moving in its own time and space as part of creation that lies upon the ultimate source the highest we must to return and unites in irs eternall bliss,that is pure intellect superior to corporal beauty is pure goodness residing in ouer soul as source we any soul is orinate from it!if must believing in a god and follow its way this is most likely the way not is not describable in true definite forms words or concepts because this is above it and ultimate as purest truth as intellect and source of all existence!thanks for this most valueble in dept info about plotinus ideas!
Lovely words.
Full of folly.
Even for their time.
Seperating Sacredness.
Dividing “Divinity”.
Amalgamating anthropomorphisms and axioms.
While few, in a section of this organism, saw themsleves as chosen and seperated by a fabricated and so invisible source..
The majority on the lands of Turtle Island, Anahuac, & Tahuantinsuyu (for as long as they were isolated from the rest of the world) did not believe in seperating the sacred, but instead saw themselves as part of a sacred whole, from the Sun to the Soil.
Therefore, what was found to be beautiful, was creation as a whole.
Even for our ancestors, it would have been concerning, that the beautiful was being dispised in this manner.
Why do you think Plotinus was separating the sacred? His argument is that the One, the Good, and the Beautiful are all synonymous.
@@TheModernHermeticist
I’ll include what I heard, tell me if I misinterpreted it.
I’m ok with being corrected.
Sacredness, in our native tongues refers to a balanced creation, that balance sustains the endless movement between rest and regeneration. If someone is unbalanced (ie an extremist in an direction) they are no less a sacred creation than one that is balanced.
The sun is no more sacred than the soil you just shat on.
This is the a priori assumption I begin my analysis with.
In “on the beautiful”, ideas of Beauty/The Beautiful/Beauty Itself/Lower Beauty’s and similar terms are used to create a cast system for sacredness.
All time stamp are approximate.
@9 body becomes beautiful. (Not already beautiful)
@11 fire surpasses everything else in beauty (levels established)
@13 contemplate a beauty of a higher order
15:12 soul is an eye that perceives real beauty (mentions species of beauty)
@18:34 mentions deformed soul : baseness in souls
@19:50 so base it becomes impure and looses splendor, pristine beauty destroyed when covered w earth/clay.
@21:10 cleansing is required to regain splendor
@22:26 ancient oracle declares.. a soul not purified lies immersed in filth. Friends of filth. Delight in mire alone. Temperance is not delight in corporal delights, these things are not pure or offspring of purity.
@24 soul defined immortal and divine, incorporeal, intellectual, participates in divine nature which is aligned to what is beautiful and fair. (Meaning there are things unaligned w beauty)
Intellect irradiates & adorns inferior powers of the soul. That without its aid would be buried in gloom of formless matter. (Formless matter not as beautiful as formed matter)
@25:30 perhaps good and beautiful are the same. And in like manner the base and evil. (Ranks beauty)
Soul receives its beauty from intellect.
Inferior beauty derived from forming power of soul. (Mankind produces inferior beauty)
26:50 soul desires the good. (Separated from the “bad”)
27:40 matter causes decent from beauty
29:95 mans imagination is a secondary beauty that proceeds from beauty itself.
31:40 Beauty abiding in divine sanctuary that never proceeds from its retreat, so that no profane and vulgar eye may behold it
(Because of this)
32: leave corporeal senses behind because creation is a shadow of beauty in order to view true beauty from which lower beauties are derived
@33 if you use your senses it will lead you to hell to be deprived of what’s true [beauty]. (separates part of creation into darkness & devoid of beauty)
@35 all posses inward eye but few use (some have understanding of sacredness so some rule over others, creating cast system for a completely sacred creation)
Worthy men exist worthy souls exist (as opposed to non worthy, base, less beautiful, further from sacredness)
@36 in order to be pure of mind you must remove impurities like an artist chisels away and polish until you’re beautiful (because you are not already beautiful being wholly sacred) and wait for the divine to shine upon you (because you are separate from the divine and not already wholly divine)
@37 Intellectual minds alone can perceive immense beauty (non intellectuals cannot)
@39 everyone (not already god like sacred/divine) must become divine and of a god like beauty
Before looking upon a god and the beautiful itself (because we are not already god like and beauty itself)
@39 things are the offspring of the superior to all, which is the fountain of good, beauty itself
@40 accurately distinguish (separate with a fine line) the beautiful from beauty
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Where do you think the teachings of Jesus fit into this? I cant imagine Jesus disapproving of this line of thought. It seems to be "the way" he spoke of.