Charr Legions | Guild Wars
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- The Charr are aggressive, industrious, and wholly dedicated to becoming the preeminent species of Tyria.
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One thing I always loved about Guild Wars is that it basically puts the humans into the role traditionally held by the elves in more traditional high fantasy settings. Humans in GW are the magical elder race that used to rule the world but have been pushed back into just a few surviving enclaves by younger civilizations. The Charr, Asura and Sylvari are expanding, growing and developing their culture while humans are desperately struggling to hold on to past glories. Only the Norn are in a similar position as humans, having to come back from the brink of extinction.
I never thought it as that! And we get to experience humanity's fall from grace by simply playing Guild Wars 1.
And ANet has basically solidified that by the latest cosmetic item: elven ears.
Yeah the whole Elf are the old race is kinda running to the ground already
LoL. Humans are Isekai'd to Tyria, and granted magic by the Gods. Or look at it another way, humanity is the eldritch abomination from the far reaches of lost dimensions, now in Tyria. They even had a mind-bendingly strange and huge city in the form of the entire Orrian subcontinent, with its rings and plateaus and incomprehensible structures.
@@Kalebfenoir My fan theory is that humans arrived in Tyria from a huge space faring station managed by 6 ultra powerful AIs called Dwayna, Dhuum, Lyssa, Abaddon, Balthazar, and Melandru. The space station was facing a catastrophe that forced the AIs to use an experimental portal to transport them and the human residents to a detectable nearby hospitable planet - Tyria. But the magic intensive nature of the world transformed these already sentient and super intelligent AIs into godly beings. And this is how we find out that the humans in GW2 are actually from Earth circa 80,000 AD. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.
"The Charr race was forged in the merciless crucible of war. It is all they know. War defines them, and their quest for dominion drives them ever onward. The weakling and the fool have no place among the charr. Victory is all that matters, and it must be achieved by any means and at any cost." - Guild Wars description about them.
Like orcs in warcraft?
@@celiovicenteribeirofilho9740 kinda
in the story they make them much more humanlike and they show alot of emotion specifically in the icebrood saga
The passing conversation you can hear between two charr in the black citadel always sells it for me. One asks why they're letting all the humans in the city. The other one responds "We went to war, they lost. Now they buy our stuff." always cracks me up.
Also ash legion represent. Know the unknowable.
Heck yeah
They rigged explosives to Azura portal in case they want to invade. And hey, I'm also Ash legion
Ash Legion above the rest
Hello fellow ash legoin
The Charr’s Mongol-Romanic cultural mashup is pretty dang cool. I think a comparative analysis between them and the Qunari would be pretty fun too.
The Charr remind me lot's of Krogan's from Mass Effect series.
And a bit like the Mandalorians.
Oh man, Guild Wars. That really takes me back. So happy to see that world getting some love.
While I won't spoil any of the living world story for potential players, I will say that the politics of the Legions is one of the most fascinating dynamics to experience throughout the whole story line. Though if you want to experience it in total, play through GW1 Prophecies, The Eye of The North expansion, then play through GW2 and its living world episodes and expansions.
I request Humanity or the Asura be the next subject for the Institute next time they visit Tyria.
Id prefer kodan honestly.
Not all Charr are part of the legions. In particular, the Olmakhan Charr, who reject the charr legions warlike ways, have come to prominence in recent times.
They are unique as they were not even aware the Iron, Ash and Blood legions where free from Flame.
There's also those who, whether having become Gladium, or simply wanting a quieter life, have left to become things like merchants, farmers, or just straight up civilians. The only thing is, if they are ever called to service by their Imperator, they MUST comply. They might not be part of the active combat roster of the Legions, but they are still Legion. And the Legion obeys.
Before the Kryta investigation, I didn't even know Guild Wars had much lore, and now here I am excited to see a video about the Charr!
dude it has A LOT... the dudes who made the first Guild Wars were ex Blizzard devs that left before WoW.
HIGHLY recommend checking the wiki of the main races and just checking them all out
@@raquetdude I do love browsing a good fan wiki!
@@owenparris7490 nahhh the real official wiki, all the details are there.
Even the novel stories and lore from the 1st game.
Also it’s accessible from within the game by doing /Wiki for every item and character.
@@raquetdude Meh, I prefer fandom wikis.
@@owenparris7490 Its run and maintained by fans. But the devs have adopted it as the games official wiki and integrated it in to the game systems as well as supporting and painting it. Even giving gold incentives for players to add details to the wiki.
Iron, Blood, and Ash Legions (the playable Charr) are unique on Tyria in that they have a deep cultural distrust of magic and religion, in a world full of magic and godlike beings. After being burned by the Flame Legion, pun intended, they reject reliance on anything they cannot build or directly control. The Charr don't pray for victory, they call for artillery and air strikes.
Iron Legion in particular has the most advanced non-magical technology on Tyria, comparable to the late 19th - early 20th century on Earth. They invented guns, tanks, helicopters, submarines, and all manner of other war machines. They fight dragons with flak cannons, kill ghosts with artillery fire, and pioneered industrialized warfare.
It's why I main the charr in GW2, in a world of fantasy creatures, and magic users. They turned to technology as a means of leveling the battlefield; literal and figurative. Especially once the Flame Legion got their fitting ousting.
As someone who adores the idea of fantastic takes on historical conflict, they scratch an itch that rarely if ever does. I'm a sucker for races that break the fantasy tropes. So like you said, for a race in the setting be primed and roaring for an industrial revolution, and easily outpacing all but the Asura. It's a lovely thing to actually explore and play.
@@justusbladetooth If ANet ever decides to expand the lore into the future, Tyria could go places very quickly. The combination of a high magic setting, rapid industrialization, and seemingly endless conflict (much of which is existential total war), could make the 20th Century on earth look slow.
Assuming the Pact holds together post-EOD, explosive growth is imminent. Especially with the addition of Cantha as a peer competitor to Asuran magical technology.
One of the most underrated Lore/ universes for fantasy.
The lore of Guild Wars 1 & 2 is very rich, and doesn't fall into the fantasy tropes other fantasy settings often do. Glad to see Templin Institute delving into that. Great video guys & gals!
Charr Legions really love their enthusiastic walks huh?
*very* enthusiastic walks
Yes, I remember creating my Charr engineer of the Iron Legion the first day the game went live back in 2012, he has been my main ever since
Oh yes the horned kitty cats of DOOOOOM.
I loved GW growing up, one of my all time favorite games. I hear GW2 is free to play now. God, I am old.
Free to play Core experience with buy to advance packs to get you the 3 Expansions. Gliders, Mounts, and now Boats. Take a break from the grind to go fishing. And after 10 years they finally fixed Foulbear Kraal and maybe will get the WvW with your Guild working this year.
Still no SAB World 3. When that comes out you can be as old as you like.
And its on steam too!! we had an huge influx of new and returning players with the steam release :D
@@matsug5704 definitely! Great to see GW2 having new and returning players.
In my country's currency the expansion packs reach three digit numbers. That's expensive, even for video games. Even if I finished the base game it'll probably be awhile before I play any of the expansions lol But yeah its free to play now. I'm playing from Steam.
Something that I wish this video mentioned is gender roles and their history in Charr society.
It is fascinating how women initially were pretty much slaves, but when the rebellion against Flame Legion begun they were able to secure equal rights in the most Charr fashion possible - by joining the fight.
Well, cause kalla lead them she was the one who put a fight
I did not ever expect guild wars lore here but I'll take IT. Should of mentioned how even when they beat Ascalon, the king casted the foefire a massive wave of magic flame I guess that basically killed most if not all the invading charr and turned all the Ascalonians into vengeful spirits that still haunt the land to the current day, attacking everyone alive, charr or human. Also they had another army that was going for the human kingdom of Orr, but the grand vizier sunk it into the ocean before they could get there, only for it to be raised centuries later by Zhaitan, the elder dragon of death that basically turned it into a massive ruined zombie kingdom.
Guild Wars will always be in my memories, mostly because on an halloween event, around a town's square, I was one of the 3 asked to do something for a awesome reward (By random event chooser, I guess). Young me could not even do the "emote dance" and I was booed (To put it in friendly terms) for failling to know how to make my character dance.
Due to their history, many Charr shun religion. They do not accept any god's authority and quickly anger of Charr worship or manipulation by god-like beings. Charr acknowledge other races' gods as beings of power, but do not see anything as worthy of worship. In the case of the Human Gods, the Charr view deities as beings to fight and strive to kill. At most any reverence is limited only to great heroes of Charr history and their deeds, such as Pyre Fierceshot and Kalla Scorchrazer.
Guild Wars content. A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
Now THIS is unexpected, but brings back long forgotten memories.
IRON WITHIN IRON WITHOUT
Oh wait.
Glad you are covering Guild Wars.
The charr are what would happen if Beastmen slaves from the iron warriors rejected chaos, and somehow ended up in warhammer fantasy/AOS.
You do this game, probably my favorite game of all time, a great service.
Char Aznable: "Interesting."
You know I would've thought that the ongoing guerrilla war the Charr fighting the dead of Ascalon would also have blunted their ability to conquer further.
I think so. Basically the Charr psychologically loves war - it's in their genes. They need enemies to fight. So as fate would have it, the ghost armies of Ascalon gave them the perfect enemy - one you can defeat but can never eradicate, forever.
@@gogadantes8699 i don't believe that. I think it's a culture thing. And the charr culture has been evolving
It did. Then Kralkatorrik happened and attrition rates got even worse.
@@daefaron There's clear signs of it, the charr culture is shaped by war but much like any industrializing society you can hear the cries of revolution, they're just blunted by drums of war. Especially if you dabble into certain side-stories you'll see that the charr are genuinely trying to defeat the ghosts, Flame Legion, and with the peace accords signed with humanity. Once the dragons are a destroyed threat, it's incredibly likely the fragile peace will either turn to a societal revolution, or they will turn on themselves.
@@gogadantes8699
If they hadn't done that, the Charr wouldn't be able to spit out so many level 20s. Truly the biggest tactical error the humans ever made.
FOR THE LEGION!!!
ONE CHAR!! ONE CHAAAARRRR!!!
I like to think that any cat people are bested by a spray bottle or shaking a can with a few dry beans in it.
Golems with laser pointers
"have you ever touched rytlock's furr? Its so smooth"
I would pet rytlock, even if it costs me a limb
Love this work! I'd love to see a video talking about the Tyrian/Human Gods, they're super fascinating.
Charr need no God!!! Love those cats specially the the Iron Legion, Iron within Iron without!!
Very cool summary! I'm playing GW2 and it's great to see a Templin video on it :)
A point that was overlooked was that worship of the Titans was opposed by a group of female charr rebels and as a result, when the Flame Legion shaman rose to power they denied female charr from being warriors anymore. This was a radical change in their society where females had fought alongside males. The revolt against the Flame Legion was led by female charr and their place in society was restored. In current times, even within the Flame Legion male and female charr are considered equals.
I don’t know anything about Guild Wars so this is great introduction stuff
Welcome to a universe where your salad is wiser than you and rat people are smarter (and sassier) than you
Yes! Guild Wars is my fave!
yooo hyped to see Charr here! still my favourite race even after not playing the game much more
Orks: "Finally, worthy opponents! Our WAAAAAGGGGHHHHH will be Legendary!"
Honestly, the charr legions (United of course) would do pretty well in warhammer fantasy/AOS. They’re generally distrustful of gods and magic, which would help with chaos corruption. While they are war-like they’re also willing to negotiate with other races. And above all, they’re pretty damn good at war.
In Guild Wars 1 the Charr fascinated me. In Guild Wars 2 most of my characters are charr. They are so awesome
Guild Wars was SUCH A BLAST to play growing up. Never Forget prince Rurik!
"i defend ascalon against ANOTHER charr invasion and my father TRIFFLES with doors!"
I wasn't expecting to see Guild Wars lore here, but I'm all for it. Arenanet has created a very interesting world.
Keep Guild Wars related content going. Love this!
YT scrubbed Templin from my subscriptions, but so glad the algorithm put this one in front of me. As a long time GW2 player, I'm incredibly surprised and pleased you guys are covering Tyria! Say what you will about GW2's traditional narrative weakness, but between GW & GW2, they've managed to build an incredibly rich world. Looking forward to more from Templin on it!
Loved the guild wars played long ago
Khorne: "I am so proud of them."
Khorne would consider them a disappointment. Charr are all about fighting, yes, but they're about fighting for an objective. They don't view fighting as an end in itself, it's just that their first (and often only) solution to any given problem is violence.
The ethos of Khorne is about violence for the sake of violence, spilling blood for no other reason than to spill blood. Things like goals and means-to-an-end thinking are at the very best a necessary evil to the more strategy-minded khornates (they do exist :P) and absolute anathema to the howling berserkers.
The Charr are definitely not going to like the idea that engaging in any sort of violence is an act of worship for a god.
@@Remitonov The Flame Legion might be up for it until somebody points out to them that Khorne _hates_ magic.
They'd be good candidates for Chaos Undivided though.
Never thought I’d see my fave game covered like this!
I love Guild Wars 1 and 2, played them since release. but I still harbour GW1 animosity towards the Charr for the Searing and what they did to Gwen and Ascalon. But still enjoyed this video and interacting with them in game
🎶Charr la! Hey Charr la!🎶
Omg a Guild Wars video! Awesome
Love GW Lore
So what you're saying is, they are basically cat-like Klingons with their own sword of Kahless.
First character I ever made was Charr. They'll always have a special place for me.
Holy crap, guild wars 2 content
Well...I see the oppourtuinity for a Gundam crossover!
Nice! just started playing, hope you will do some more GW2 lore
Do the Orr Kingdom and it's infamous GG NO REEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!! Rage quit in Gw 1 that leads to the main plot of GW2.
Human kingdoms of all tyria have a good consistant record of dooming (sometimes almost) themselves
@@someone_7233
Ascalon: pissed off the cats too much
Orr: nuked itself because said cats invaded it
Kryta: turned to worshipping eldritch things to protect themselves from cats
Elona: too much necromancy and demon worship
Lesson: don’t mess with cats, demons, necromancy, or eldritch things
Cool! Hope we get a video on the greatest, noblest and smartest race of Tyria. I speak, of course, of the noble Asura. We're awesome! 😛
You mean the great skrits chunkier and bald cousins?
@@hanneskarlbom6644 I'm not bald! Okay the chunky thing maybe true, but that's all the chocolate omnoms I eat for extra magic find.
@@NimbleTack yes asura very humble yes yes
Yes! love the charr coverage. They're such an interesting race, both physically and culturally. They simultaneously defy and embrace so many of the tropes of the orcish antagonist race.
Would you recommend Guild Wars? What's it actually like?
Guild Wars 2 is a fairly typical MMORPG but with some non-traditional mechanics. Outside of endgame PvE there's no sign of the traditional tank-healer-damage trinity anywhere (and they had to build it from the ground up when they added said endgame PvE) and every character is expected to bring their own healing, damage and mitigation. This on one hand makes solo adventuring very easy for basically every class but also means group PvE is often a mess with the most common strategy in dungeons being to lure all the enemies in a room into a corner and then spam whatever AoE abilities you have on them at point-blank range until either your party or the enemy are all dead.
It does have a lot of great exploration and open-world PvE content, as well as a fairly lively PvP scene with two modes, one being open-world battles using your actual character, the other being team fights where all equipment and stats are equalized to ensure you can't grind your way into overpowered gear and then dominate newbies who haven't had the opportunity to farm for top-tier loot yet...in theory at least, in team PvP it's all about skill and teamwork, not who spent more time and gold to become OP.
Guild Wars 2 will always have a special place in my heart.
Love the Charr! My main was an Ash Leigon Engineer until I stopped playing.
Humans of Ascalon fully lost the war against the Charr and as their final move they created the ghosts of Ascalon so that the Charr can't advance further.
The Charr legions have one of the most interesting lore of all the playable races in GW2. I would like it if you guys covered the history and attitudes of each Charr Legion. Blood for warriors and soldiers, Iron for engineers and smiths, Ash for spies and saboteurs, and Flame for sorcerers and shamans as well as the Olmakhan Charr, the defectors of the Legions who made their own tribe and rejected to ways of the Legions by lining a non-militaristic life and mostly becoming peaceful druids.
I've seen the charr on a box for the game before. They looked really cool. I think I'd play with them if I ever came into guild wars.
I would request a Archival documentation of the The Decepticon Empire.
Just realised this channel is a org in terra invicta
Iron legion for life.
Psst WoodenPotatoes has made a mod for Stellaris that adds most if not all the races of Guild Wars 2. Check it out
So cool. I hope you do more!
Nice, well done.
I saw the templin institue org in Terra Invicta. The mainline divisions are now supporting my quest to eradicate the xenos from earth
Good to see a video on a topic I have 0 idea of.
Factions I would like to see next:
1. The Magog Cartel | Oddworld
2. Greater Korean Republic | Homefront
3. Cabal Empire | Destiny
4. Furon Empire | Destroy All Humans
5. The Horde | World of Warcraft
Video idea: Coalition of Ordered Governments.
Couple things. The Claw of the Khan-Ur was recovered by a multi racial adventuring party lead by a human. Ascalon was originally charr territory. The humans routed them when they arrived thousands of years previous, and drove them into the blaze ridge mountains, the ancestral home of the flame legion. When they destroyed Ascalon the human king released a wave of magic that turned every human in the nation into a ghost that would attack anything that moved rendering entire sections of the country uninhabitable becoming a constant source of attrition. These problems further compounded when Kralkatorrik rose and corrupted everything his shadow fell on, splitting the nation in half and sapping the charr armies strength further. They, like every other race early on, were beset on all sides by foes that couldn't or wouldn't die. They could no longer afford a war with humanity. That being said, they are still a nation of xenophobic assholes who's ambition causes more problems than it solves.
We definantly need more GW2 Lore please!
I love Guild Wars 1
Will be watching this later to see how accurate it is
Thanks you! for this content and i like this game ^^
Humans: *"So what if you are strong? We were there before the gods where written."*
Kzinti: Interesting...
UNCF (space battleship yamato 2202) vs the galactic empire
Thank you the Video, and the Enlgish subtitle.
Still hoping for an Allagan Empire, Holy See of Ishgard or maybe Dragons (of the Dragonstar) video.
Please cover the Exosquad
Does anyone want to talk about Exosquad
By the gods, YES
@@samaepl I’m glad to meet a fellow fan
@@samaepl hi
Ah.. The Charr was fun playing them in the expension in GW 1 but still.. My favourite non human faction in guild wars is actually the tengu from faction..
Damn good video!
Oh boy my favorite furries!
Asura next?
Like, Relike, and Relike again
Guild Wars 1 was light years ahead of Guild Wars 2.
Cool
I may just play GW2, eventually. Its lore is interesting.
i crave a remake/remaster of guild wars 1, it was my first mmo but i hated guild wars too
MMOs are fair game? Perhaps the Institute should investigate a faraway land called Eorzea...
Why in fantasy are Legions always hairy barbarians going blarg everywhere?
Welcome to The Man-Kzin War 5 or is it 6? Who knows with militaristic big cats it's always war.
The Charr alone justify an RTS spinoff of the Guild Wars franchise.
Rely on iron, not false gods.
The Flame Legion has slowly been reintegrating into Charr society after the dead of its former leader Baelfire and promotion of Efram Greetsglory. after the defeat of the elder dragon Kralkatorrik and the ascension of the Elder Prismatic Dragon and ongoing peace treaties between the other great races of tyria has left the Charr with no real enemies to focus their war culture society on, however doing a festival and High legion peace summit the leader of the Blood Legion Bangar Ruinbringer began to secretly rally charr under xenophobic culture change from peace and fear of the peaceful Elder Prismatic Dragon being turn on them if it Champion's convince her to attack. Banger Ruinbringer would lead his rebel Charr faction calling themselves Frost Legion and later the Dominion to the Elder Dragon Jormag in hopes of subjugating it or making himself it equal as its Champion like Elder Prismatic Dragon did with her Champions leading to a new civil war between the high legions it allies and the frost legion. This plan backfired and Ruinbriger was made to Voice of Jormag its messenger and his top soilder Ryland Steelcatcher was made into Jormag Champion. Ryland with jormag using Ruinbringer to chat with the high legions and its allies to form a fragile truce to kill it rival Primordus the fire elder dragon. The truce was quickly broken when Jormag and Ryland start freezing and consuming the magic from across Tyria to boost Jormag power for the final fight with Primordus before any alternative could be found to stop both dragon from destroying each other and possible the world. IN the end Jormag and Primordus did fight and killed each other, and each of the dragon's champion were free from their influence Ryland was killed in the final battle and Bangar was serious injury from the release of jormag control and the Dominion is believed to scattered to the wind, but time will tell if these series of events will lead the charr to a better more peaceful future or continue an ongoing self-destructive cycle.
Olmakhan Charr are a Subculture of Charr society that forgo the warlike culture of the high legion for a more peaceful tribal community. Starting as a former Charr warband that was sick of the fighting, war, and revolutions of the charr they flee to the coast of Elona the southern coastal continent of the Tyria Supercontinent landmass. They form culture more in tune with nature and family support system
i could genuinly care less for gw2 lore, but this video got me excited, loved following you.
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