What a great take. I love my Proto tools and they’re nice as Snap On in my opinion. I’d go as far as to say I like my Proto impact sockets more than Snappys. Bonney and Thorsen are a couple more that were nothing fancy but were a quality tool. Still using them 30-40 years later.
That was my point that we have always had other choices available, the difference between the brands was Snap On, MAC, Cornwell and Matco have tool trucks to service the industry where the other brands don't have that and that is why Snap On, MAC, Cornwell and Matco out sell the other brands. So many posting videos today are pushing that this is the first time over tool brands have been available that make a good tool. The same issue still exists today as it did in the past and that is Snap On, MAC, Matco and Cornwell still provide a service to the industry with their trucks while the others don't. You named some other good brands and there are still more that were available as well.
I just listen to this again? I can go on and go on and on but that's the one thing. When I moved and I had some broken snap-on tools I found the dealer at a local shop stopped introduced. Myself told him what I had. He looked at me and he said I'm really busy. He said bring them back next week. I'll call you before I get here so you know I'm in town and I'll take care of them. He did never never bitched about it. Never said a word. Some of this stuff was 40 years old. He didn't make a dime off of it. He got me fixed up. I noticed he had a few things on the truck that he was running promos on his own man. I can't stay off his truck. The service this man has given me. It's like I started with him when I was a kid. He's younger than I am but he comes from the old cloth. Sorry if I'm boring you but man you're striking some good memories and making some really good points. I hope your channel takes off and these guys understand it. Thank you 👍😎👍
I started in the 2010s. Not early enough to get craftsman USA, and not late enough to get these new budget "pro" tools. Stuck buying chinesium crap until I could afford stuff off the truck. Techs starting out today have some great new options that weren't available in the tool dark ages (2000-2020ish)
SK, Mac, Matco, etc. were still pretty expensive. Not SnapOn expensive - but the quality of cheaper options has increased IMO. Cheap overseas labor combined with improved materials and manufacturing has upped the tool game in the past few years - mostly at the expense of quality Made in USA tools.
Craftsman was the most convenient to get for the folks that don’t make their living turning wrenches. On the farm, it was mostly Craftsman and S-K. Tool trucks have never come to the small time farms. Lang and Lisle are some other good brands.
SK was sold a few years ago by Ideal Industries to a chinese company. Ideal also closed down Western Forge that same time. Very sad…. Also, I started out spinning wrenches with the raised panel Craftsman wrenches. They got me by but I found out where they weren’t as good as the higher end stuff when I worked on forklifts.
When China Freight started copying Snap on pliers I went and looked at them as soon as I felt them I was LMAO the young man asked if I was ok or needed anything I tried to tell him that the needle nose pliers had no comparison to S.O. I squeezed them. Damn near bent them out of shape. Showed them to the kid and I said I've had snap-on for 40 plus years. These don't compare. I starting to wonder how much could these guys be getting paid to sell their self out for this s*** All of them that were bragging about the roll carts and the tool boxes I went in. I looked. I've had a snap-on toolbox since the early '70s. They don't compare. They're about nothing built like snap-on and one kid at Harbor Freight told. Me They're coming out of the same factory I looked at them. I said these are not coming out of the same factory here again for a chicken s*** tool box. Are these guys selling themselves out? I was impressed with their roll cart. The latest one I ordered one. I just couldn't pick it up . 👍😎👍
icon stuff is made in Taiwan but not China and Taiwan is catching up to made in USA quality i bet you had to hide for a few weeks after you saw the icon wrenches beat the snap on ones
Nice, what gets me is 99% of the people railing against Snap On have $1500 dollar phones that they do not hesitate to purchase some of them every year or every two years some of these guys will stand in line for hours just to be one of the first to get the new phone but when it comes to tools all of the sudden they have no money.
HF sells lots of USA tools and employs more Americans by far more than snap on tool trucks will need to evolve or be a thing of the past except for the best and most dependable tool guy’s they’ll stay in business regardless the best advice anyone could give a new mechanic is to stay off the tool trucks don’t impulse buy and do not invest a ton of money in a large box if you want to invest in a quality toolbox then have it it be a service cart or something that you work out of everyday do your research buy from the manufacture and buy the right tools for the right job there is better quality tools for a lot less than what you can buy at a outrageously marked up price on the tool trucks Never buy taps, drill bits, carbide burrs chisels or extractors or measurement tools on a tool truck you’ll never see snap on or Mac or any of those brands ever in a machine shop or in the environment that those tools are used the most because there are far better options
HF does have gems the Icon prybars and chisels are mayhew which top quality for and identical to what Matco and Cornwell offer and probably others the Icon tap set is better quality than all the tool trucks unless they carry the gear wrench set that’s a good one too their Bremen locking pliers are 10 times better than anything Irwin makes Snap on owns the eagle grips which are incredible HF in the 00’s does hold a candle to where they stand today as far as inventory and quality tools you can find a lot of great stuff at other hardware stores and eBay and Amazon too and there’s a ton of great tool dealers on the internet
@@Booney1286 HOBO Freight jobs are all low paying go no where jobs. Snap On jobs are manufacturing and distribution among others plus Snap On owns several other companies all with much better pay than HOBO Freight. You don't see Snap On in machine shops because Snap On does not service machine shops their sales are set up to provide a service and sell to mechanics at their place of work. This way the mechanics can purchase tools and warranty tools while at work instead of having to spend their off time arranging warranty service or burning their own gas and time running around trying to warranty tools. Tools trucks are not your enemy they are there to provide a service to you at your work place, let me know when HOBO Freight, Tekton, Capri, Ko-ken, Craftsman, Husky, Kobalt and other brands outside of Snap On, MAC, Matco and Cornwell come to you to provide service.
Williams, Wright Tool, Proto and Armstrong. Old Sk. Hazet. Knipex. Gedore. Koken. And many others. Great alternatives to many SO tools.
What a great take. I love my Proto tools and they’re nice as Snap On in my opinion. I’d go as far as to say I like my Proto impact sockets more than Snappys. Bonney and Thorsen are a couple more that were nothing fancy but were a quality tool. Still using them 30-40 years later.
That was my point that we have always had other choices available, the difference between the brands was Snap On, MAC, Cornwell and Matco have tool trucks to service the industry where the other brands don't have that and that is why Snap On, MAC, Cornwell and Matco out sell the other brands. So many posting videos today are pushing that this is the first time over tool brands have been available that make a good tool. The same issue still exists today as it did in the past and that is Snap On, MAC, Matco and Cornwell still provide a service to the industry with their trucks while the others don't.
You named some other good brands and there are still more that were available as well.
@ Yes sir, great points all around in your video.
I just listen to this again? I can go on and go on and on but that's the one thing. When I moved and I had some broken snap-on tools I found the dealer at a local shop stopped introduced. Myself told him what I had. He looked at me and he said I'm really busy. He said bring them back next week. I'll call you before I get here so you know I'm in town and I'll take care of them. He did never never bitched about it. Never said a word. Some of this stuff was 40 years old. He didn't make a dime off of it. He got me fixed up. I noticed he had a few things on the truck that he was running promos on his own man. I can't stay off his truck. The service this man has given me. It's like I started with him when I was a kid. He's younger than I am but he comes from the old cloth. Sorry if I'm boring you but man you're striking some good memories and making some really good points. I hope your channel takes off and these guys understand it. Thank you 👍😎👍
You're not boring at all, you are making some great points and bring out some history.
I started in the 2010s. Not early enough to get craftsman USA, and not late enough to get these new budget "pro" tools. Stuck buying chinesium crap until I could afford stuff off the truck. Techs starting out today have some great new options that weren't available in the tool dark ages (2000-2020ish)
SK, Mac, Matco, etc. were still pretty expensive. Not SnapOn expensive - but the quality of cheaper options has increased IMO.
Cheap overseas labor combined with improved materials and manufacturing has upped the tool game in the past few years - mostly at the expense of quality Made in USA tools.
Craftsman was the most convenient to get for the folks that don’t make their living turning wrenches. On the farm, it was mostly Craftsman and S-K. Tool trucks have never come to the small time farms. Lang and Lisle are some other good brands.
SK was sold a few years ago by Ideal Industries to a chinese company. Ideal also closed down Western Forge that same time. Very sad…. Also, I started out spinning wrenches with the raised panel Craftsman wrenches. They got me by but I found out where they weren’t as good as the higher end stuff when I worked on forklifts.
When China Freight started copying Snap on pliers I went and looked at them as soon as I felt them I was LMAO the young man asked if I was ok or needed anything I tried to tell him that the needle nose pliers had no comparison to S.O. I squeezed them. Damn near bent them out of shape. Showed them to the kid and I said I've had snap-on for 40 plus years. These don't compare. I starting to wonder how much could these guys be getting paid to sell their self out for this s*** All of them that were bragging about the roll carts and the tool boxes I went in. I looked. I've had a snap-on toolbox since the early '70s. They don't compare. They're about nothing built like snap-on and one kid at Harbor Freight told. Me They're coming out of the same factory I looked at them. I said these are not coming out of the same factory here again for a chicken s*** tool box. Are these guys selling themselves out? I was impressed with their roll cart. The latest one I ordered one. I just couldn't pick it up . 👍😎👍
icon stuff is made in Taiwan but not China and Taiwan is catching up to made in USA quality i bet you had to hide for a few weeks after you saw the icon wrenches beat the snap on ones
Nice, what gets me is 99% of the people railing against Snap On have $1500 dollar phones that they do not hesitate to purchase some of them every year or every two years some of these guys will stand in line for hours just to be one of the first to get the new phone but when it comes to tools all of the sudden they have no money.
HF sells lots of USA tools and employs more Americans by far more than snap on tool trucks will need to evolve or be a thing of the past except for the best and most dependable tool guy’s they’ll stay in business regardless the best advice anyone could give a new mechanic is to stay off the tool trucks don’t impulse buy and do not invest a ton of money in a large box if you want to invest in a quality toolbox then have it it be a service cart or something that you work out of everyday do your research buy from the manufacture and buy the right tools for the right job there is better quality tools for a lot less than what you can buy at a outrageously marked up price on the tool trucks
Never buy taps, drill bits, carbide burrs chisels or extractors or measurement tools on a tool truck you’ll never see snap on or Mac or any of those brands ever in a machine shop or in the environment that those tools are used the most because there are far better options
HF does have gems the Icon prybars and chisels are mayhew which top quality for and identical to what Matco and Cornwell offer and probably others the Icon tap set is better quality than all the tool trucks unless they carry the gear wrench set that’s a good one too their Bremen locking pliers are 10 times better than anything Irwin makes Snap on owns the eagle grips which are incredible
HF in the 00’s does hold a candle to where they stand today as far as inventory and quality tools you can find a lot of great stuff at other hardware stores and eBay and Amazon too and there’s a ton of great tool dealers on the internet
@@Booney1286 HOBO Freight jobs are all low paying go no where jobs. Snap On jobs are manufacturing and distribution among others plus Snap On owns several other companies all with much better pay than HOBO Freight.
You don't see Snap On in machine shops because Snap On does not service machine shops their sales are set up to provide a service and sell to mechanics at their place of work. This way the mechanics can purchase tools and warranty tools while at work instead of having to spend their off time arranging warranty service or burning their own gas and time running around trying to warranty tools.
Tools trucks are not your enemy they are there to provide a service to you at your work place, let me know when HOBO Freight, Tekton, Capri, Ko-ken, Craftsman, Husky, Kobalt and other brands outside of Snap On, MAC, Matco and Cornwell come to you to provide service.