I'm glad you found it interesting and it makes me so happy that you love Dutch culture! I find it is very underappreciated, but there's so much beauty and interesting things in our culture.
Thank you so much for bringing to light the colonial past.. I request you to please cover Dutch India / Bengal. At one point of time half of Dutch East India Company (VOC) trade with Asia was with India.
Kinda a bit sensitive topic but that's history.. but don't forget about so many positive impacts that Dutch govt gave to Indonesia such as in education system n etc. They built many good hospitals too. I remember my late grandpa told me, he had a good Dutch friend who taught him about table manner. My grandpa at that time was still kid n his Dutch friend was already young adult. They met in a church every Sunday n they became friends. Fun fact is.. although Dutch colonialism was here for so so so many years.. Most of Indonesian nowadays do not speak Dutch. My grandpa did speak Dutch fluently. But I don't. :D I would love to learn Dutch.. because I love the Netherlands! Hehe..
i appreciate that you are open about the ugly side of history where the dutch (or specifically the dutch elites) played a role in the massacre of civilians in Banda. Attitudes towards the colonised people of a different race play a big role here. But that is not the only reason why genocide happens. For instance, during the second Anglo - Boer war in South Africa around 1902 about 30, 000 people of dutch origin, of which many were woman and children, were starved to death in concentration camps and the whole population was subjected to scorched earth policy by the British.
We have primary sources stating very clearly that about 1200 Bandanese men were killed. The rest were shipped out. So it's a combination of a mass slaughter with ethnic cleansing, not a genocide. The 15.000 was a number made up by one of his enemies who wasn't there and is regurgitated by historians who have to state higher numbers to show how bad colonialism was and how good they themselves are or something.
I think you may find the name Coen not as Dutch as you might believe, there was a certain ethnicity that played a large role in slavery and colonialism that is little mentioned today but definitely worth looking into.
You know, some people from that ethnicity are disgusted by the actions their distant relatives commit, but the hallmark of bigotry is a kind of stupidity where one can’t tell the difference between an individual, a subset, and a set. This kind of thinking, if it can even be called thinking, is indicative of someone with poor reasoning skills. This ethnicity contains people who profiteered off of slavery and also people who spent their whole lives in opposition to exploitation. Right now, there is a certain ethno-state which claims to represent these people which is guilty of terrible crimes and spreads a disgusting ideology. But at their core, they think just like you: “some percentage of another ethnicity that isn’t the one I was born into are guilty of crimes against humanity, so their entire ethnicity is all guilty via non-mathematical induction”… Which is not to mention that there are many horrible crimes across the world which have nothing to do with them. If you don’t like what those people do, maybe you should stop thinking like them. Target the individual, the group of people, the political movement, the ideology, the *rationale that leads someone to commit disgusting deeds* but if you insist on lumping people together by ethnicity, you aren’t merely being an idiot, but you’re engaging in the unique type of thinking that the worst people who ever lived employed.
You are correct. JP Cohen was a crypto-Jew with parents from Italy, pretending to be Calvinist in Hoorn. The biggest financier of the VOC was the Jew Isaac Le Maire, but the pre-companies were, for a large part, descendant from Jews from Portugal. In fact, The Jew Josef Nasi was instrumental in financing the Dutch attacks against Spain, and he became a courtier to both William of Orange and the Ottoman Court, who aided the Dutch in destroying Spain. The only reason the Dutch got an empire was because it had rejected Catholicism, which is the ancient enemy of the Jews, hence the atomic bombs on the two Catholic capitals of Japan, for instance. The last director of the VOC was Isaac de Pinto who funnelled the VOC treasury to England where they would transfer the capital to the new British Empire and their Tea Company. The independence of the USA, too, was financed by Dutch Jews with ambassador John Adams / Dutch loan who lived in Amsterdam. When there is a revolution--independence movements, you know that Jews immediately support it to acquire powerful positions in the newly formed nation. Expect the same for Iran and Kurdistan.
Coen was a staunch calvinist, zealous even, he believed to be doing god's work by fighting the Portuguese in Asia and slaughtering 1200 Bandanese was part of that.
A less fun, but important video anyway❤ I hope you learned something from it. If you have anything to add, any questions, etc.- leave a comment below!
as an indonesian i am inspired by your content about the Banda islands
Thank you for the kind words!
Interesting history. Thanks for sharing.
I’m glad you found it interesting! Thank you for watching🙌🏻😄
Very interesting. I love Dutch people and Dutch culture much love from the U.K.
I'm glad you found it interesting and it makes me so happy that you love Dutch culture! I find it is very underappreciated, but there's so much beauty and interesting things in our culture.
Thank you so much for bringing to light the colonial past.. I request you to please cover Dutch India / Bengal. At one point of time half of Dutch East India Company (VOC) trade with Asia was with India.
You’re welcome- thank you for watching!🫶 Thank you for the suggestion, I will put it on the list😄
Kinda a bit sensitive topic but that's history.. but don't forget about so many positive impacts that Dutch govt gave to Indonesia such as in education system n etc.
They built many good hospitals too.
I remember my late grandpa told me, he had a good Dutch friend who taught him about table manner. My grandpa at that time was still kid n his Dutch friend was already young adult. They met in a church every Sunday n they became friends.
Fun fact is.. although Dutch colonialism was here for so so so many years.. Most of Indonesian nowadays do not speak Dutch.
My grandpa did speak Dutch fluently. But I don't. :D
I would love to learn Dutch.. because I love the Netherlands! Hehe..
i appreciate that you are open about the ugly side of history where the dutch (or specifically the dutch elites) played a role in the massacre of civilians in Banda. Attitudes towards the colonised people of a different race play a big role here. But that is not the only reason why genocide happens. For instance, during the second Anglo - Boer war in South Africa around 1902 about 30, 000 people of dutch origin, of which many were woman and children, were starved to death in concentration camps and the whole population was subjected to scorched earth policy by the British.
We have primary sources stating very clearly that about 1200 Bandanese men were killed. The rest were shipped out. So it's a combination of a mass slaughter with ethnic cleansing, not a genocide.
The 15.000 was a number made up by one of his enemies who wasn't there and is regurgitated by historians who have to state higher numbers to show how bad colonialism was and how good they themselves are or something.
I think you may find the name Coen not as Dutch as you might believe, there was a certain ethnicity that played a large role in slavery and colonialism that is little mentioned today but definitely worth looking into.
Cohen. ;)
You know, some people from that ethnicity are disgusted by the actions their distant relatives commit, but the hallmark of bigotry is a kind of stupidity where one can’t tell the difference between an individual, a subset, and a set.
This kind of thinking, if it can even be called thinking, is indicative of someone with poor reasoning skills.
This ethnicity contains people who profiteered off of slavery and also people who spent their whole lives in opposition to exploitation.
Right now, there is a certain ethno-state which claims to represent these people which is guilty of terrible crimes and spreads a disgusting ideology. But at their core, they think just like you: “some percentage of another ethnicity that isn’t the one I was born into are guilty of crimes against humanity, so their entire ethnicity is all guilty via non-mathematical induction”…
Which is not to mention that there are many horrible crimes across the world which have nothing to do with them.
If you don’t like what those people do, maybe you should stop thinking like them.
Target the individual, the group of people, the political movement, the ideology, the *rationale that leads someone to commit disgusting deeds* but if you insist on lumping people together by ethnicity, you aren’t merely being an idiot, but you’re engaging in the unique type of thinking that the worst people who ever lived employed.
You are correct. JP Cohen was a crypto-Jew with parents from Italy, pretending to be Calvinist in Hoorn. The biggest financier of the VOC was the Jew Isaac Le Maire, but the pre-companies were, for a large part, descendant from Jews from Portugal. In fact, The Jew Josef Nasi was instrumental in financing the Dutch attacks against Spain, and he became a courtier to both William of Orange and the Ottoman Court, who aided the Dutch in destroying Spain. The only reason the Dutch got an empire was because it had rejected Catholicism, which is the ancient enemy of the Jews, hence the atomic bombs on the two Catholic capitals of Japan, for instance. The last director of the VOC was Isaac de Pinto who funnelled the VOC treasury to England where they would transfer the capital to the new British Empire and their Tea Company. The independence of the USA, too, was financed by Dutch Jews with ambassador John Adams / Dutch loan who lived in Amsterdam. When there is a revolution--independence movements, you know that Jews immediately support it to acquire powerful positions in the newly formed nation. Expect the same for Iran and Kurdistan.
Coen was a staunch calvinist, zealous even, he believed to be doing god's work by fighting the Portuguese in Asia and slaughtering 1200 Bandanese was part of that.
Jan Pieterszoon Cohen, Maranno crypto jew from Italy. What do you expect?