agrreed... but can someone tell me why he's still here? I'm new here... but I played bball in Europe at a high level for decades ... how can someone who hasn' got a clue about bball be here...
@@lks11 The reason his take was so embarrassing is because no one on the panel was arguing that's not the case. Key took 4 minutes to state what everyone already knew as obvious. It's like waxing poetic for 4 minutes about how the sky is blue. It's not wrong, but it had nothing to do with the segment and he wasted everyone's time in doing so. What's next? Is he gonna drop some more sage wisdom like "the team that scores more points will win"? It's almost impressive how long he can talk without making a cogent point.
He cut Rachel off because she was speaking nonsense. Basketball is poetry in motion. Not the Tour De France. They are trying to lower the standard for JJ which is what they do for his entitled kind. JJ has no business being the head coach of the Lakers.
I've been saying this since last yr...adding Max Kellerman to the show would be the best way to go. Their ratings will go through the roof. Get Max now!!!
Keyshawn honestly hurts the show more than he helps . He even sucks at talking about the sport he played . Skip should have brought Max Kellerman on instead
Bro now everyone is suppose to agree with you or whoever. People have different opinions. Now a pro athletes opinion is way more valid than anything you say. You’re just in your feelings because it’s the lakers and key is a fan.
we are in for a front row seat for one of the biggest clownshows of all time, just need another team to draft Bronny James ahead of the Lakers for LeBron to leave the Lakers and it’ll be perfect.
Lebron want leave the lakers he don’t want to get up and move his family and start all over again and bronny might not even get drafted he not even a top 20 player
And then the Lakers will mire in obscurity for years to come. Just like the Lakers were before him. Fans like yourself have to understand this is a business first and foremost. Jeanie's main concern is maximizing profits just like any other business owner
Someone has to be the "Laker" fan who is opposed to Skip's "Laker Hater". Paul Pierce is from LA but because he played his entire career for the Celtics, you can't put him that role.
Pelinka said what the players needed to hear ,even though what keyshawn said is true the fans want the truth. I dont think that Pelinka can achieve both.
@@BigShotKevI mean Jerry Buss was known for supporting his staff and propelling the team, where Jeanie has a history of mingling with players and stuff. Lmao. But it doesn’t matter at this point anyways
I know Rachel's bag is basketball, but I love her and Skip together. They have great chemistry and play off each other well. They could be a great duo until Rachel is ready to move on...or maybe take over for Skip 🤔
@@bbyflip1 Lakers ain't been good the last 3 years. Why would year 4 be any different? Cuz they got a new coach? Well they didn't get any better when darvin ham got there. The Lakers are trash!!
Keyshawn was so condescending about her point of analytics. He basically said it was because of getting great players. Not understanding many teams get great players and it doesnt work. Analytics in best shooting locations, best plays that can be run by a team. Numbers goes beyond just skills.
Lakers future prediction: Lakers rumors swirl around star players Lakers waste a draft asset on Bronny Lakers struggle to win 30 games Pelicans get top 10 pick unprotected. Lakers main talking point for all ESPN win lose or draw LOL
Rachel is the best mouthpiece Lebron and Co could ever hope for. Whether it’s Bronny or JJ as the coach, she can spin better than anyone I’ve ever seen.
5:01 Steve Kerr won a championship in his first year without any previous coaching experience in 2014-15, although he head previously been the GM in Phoenix for three years.
Right after Skip kisses the feet of every NBA and NFL player he built his entire career on. And I’m not a fan of either of their media skills. I’m here to hear possible new Lakers info. To use against every fan I know 👀🤨
Well before Paul, who was Skip popping with? Richard Sherman, Michael Irvin? At least Key brings some energy. He’s the dude people hate watch on, like Rashad McCants on Gil’s Arena.
As a long time Lakers fan, i am embarrassed. The late great Dr. Buss would be ashamed at what circus the lakers have turned into. Also i tried defending Key, but it's time to find a replacement. It's ridiculous at this point. Shows you how good Shannon was, you can tell he studied and did his HW before starting a debate. Paul and Rachel run circles around him. And Rachel should be a permanent.
So the Lakers don’t even have their roster filled out yet, very little trade assets and they thought it was a good idea to bring in a former player with no coaching experience especially at the collegiate level?
Yall fans are spoiled AF. Ask us Browns fans or Detroit Lions fans what we go through. Lakers and cowboys at least have winning seasons and won chips multiple times throughout their history. Never had seasons as bad as the Browns, Lions, Pacers, Cavs (before 2016), Suns, or the Charlette Hornets.
6:40 Well Keyshawn...there’s no "F" sound in the word, "TRUTH". Its pronounced TR-U-TH, not TR-OOF. If you speak for a living and want "TRUTH", that’s probably a good place to start!
First time watching a clip from this show since their first episode. Is Keyshawn always like this? Just yappin and disagreeing but not saying anything? Annoying af
Theres something to be said about being a major city Coach. In LA there’s so much going on and expectations that if they aren’t winning we can find something else to do in the meantime
😂lakers, of now as fakers...thank yo lequeen for becoming a laughing stock.....starting now😂, no been that way for awhile..and no one counting the damn bubble title..
was hoping skip was gonna spit some real sht and say jj will fail and he's not as smart as he thinks he is. but i see skip is watered down and pc now. his career ended when shannon left. he's done.
Bob and Steve deserve credit, but Mark Jackson deserves at least 1/3 of the credit for building that dynasty. It's WILD that he hasn't gotten another opportunity... then again... it's been so long that it's expected.
@@schuylerkrizay6192yeah fr. Everyone hated ham so bad. JJ had a nice press conference and is very intelligent. Let’s give him a shot before we crucify him.
@@schuylerkrizay6192 They made the playoffs the 2 seasons Ham was here. But hey the Lakers got to cater to LeBron I get it. Mark Jackson or Monty Williams would have been a better hire than Reddick.
One thing I like about LeBron James is that he'll give you a million-dollar job even knowing you don't qualify for it, wait for you to fail, then blame you for everything and get you fired. But at least you get rich in the end.
@@ChrisWilliams-ur7fn he approved of Darvin Ham until he disapproved of him, and got him fired. Lakers still have to pay the remaining money on his contract around (10m). His next victim is JJ Reddick.
For once I agree with Keshaun it's not analytics that won the Celtic championship it's because the East was so injured this year and they could defend while Dallas could not stop anyone
Keyshawn must have forgot that Vogel and Ham both lost the locker room and couldn’t connect with the players which is very crucial. JJ has the personality to succeed in LA and he’s being mentored by Coach K so he has great support behind him
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Get Keychain up outta here he's terrible...
Keyshawn talked for like four-five minutes in that first segment and said absolutely nothing 😂😂
I always skip past Keyshawn right to skip...
no he made a point that players matter, not the coach ask the 2007-2010 celtics. Doc Rivers is terrible coach.
Always 😂
😂😂😂 you fake Laker Fans suck. Y'all all Queen James Dyck riders
Facts @@lks11
I don’t wanna hear Keyshawn talk basketball at all. It should be Pierce and Rachel.
Rachel really your a clown the girl brought up cycling seriously
he's not wrong. Players matter more than Coach ask the 2007-2010 celtics
Not really.. its just the 2 best this show has to offer
agrreed... but can someone tell me why he's still here? I'm new here... but I played bball in Europe at a high level for decades ... how can someone who hasn' got a clue about bball be here...
@@lks11 if skip disagree with his criticism about Lebron, yeah he's wrong
He cuts Rachel off to say that BS?
he's not wrong. Players matter more than Coach ask the 2007-2010 celtics
@@lks11 The reason his take was so embarrassing is because no one on the panel was arguing that's not the case. Key took 4 minutes to state what everyone already knew as obvious. It's like waxing poetic for 4 minutes about how the sky is blue. It's not wrong, but it had nothing to do with the segment and he wasted everyone's time in doing so.
What's next? Is he gonna drop some more sage wisdom like "the team that scores more points will win"? It's almost impressive how long he can talk without making a cogent point.
You mean Skip's daughter 😂😂😂
He cut Rachel off because she was speaking nonsense. Basketball is poetry in motion. Not the Tour De France. They are trying to lower the standard for JJ which is what they do for his entitled kind. JJ has no business being the head coach of the Lakers.
Rachel is terrible and constantly speaking nonsense
They wont even show Keyshawn's face in the thumbnails 😂😂
In hopes we will clicc on it😂
Keyshawn is so brave to always sound so condescending while spouting nonsense.
😂 I think he tries to bring the same energy Shannon did when he gets argumentative, but keyshawn is just so clueless about basketball
Name what he said that was wrong
Spot on. The man has the thinking and communication skills of a 12 year old
might be a shannon wanna be, without the making sense part
its good jj doesn't give an F about history
Every time Keyshawn speaks I get secondhand embarrassment
The guy is so clueless
not the second hand cringe lol
I cringe when he talks sometimes. It’s bad…
Agree
😂😂
I've been saying this since last yr...adding Max Kellerman to the show would be the best way to go. Their ratings will go through the roof. Get Max now!!!
Facts I always fw max Stephen a did him dirty
max w paul pierce
but max might not want to do this again
Keyshawn honestly hurts the show more than he helps . He even sucks at talking about the sport he played . Skip should have brought Max Kellerman on instead
Max kellerman would of been a perfect additon. Not a big fan of pierce but the 3 together would of been interesting... pierce, skip, kellerman
Keyshawn really doesn’t know basketball, he should stick to football.
@@fredtogawa4908he sucks at talkin football too
Or keep rachel permanent and paul pierce
Been saying that i hate watching him n its always been like thatt since years ago
Really really happy to have Rachel back in NBA circle again🙌🙌🙌
Remove Keyshawn now he has no idea what he’s talking about
Please limit Keyshawn's comments to football.
Keyshawn gives a perspective that is completely opposite of what has been the norm. I think he's great for the show. He'll get better.
He’s out of touch !
Bro now everyone is suppose to agree with you or whoever. People have different opinions. Now a pro athletes opinion is way more valid than anything you say. You’re just in your feelings because it’s the lakers and key is a fan.
@@therealbluebatno he's not your brain is small
Keyshawn has the thinking and communication skills of a 12 year old
Yeah his haircut reflects that age
AGREED !
Well it obviously has gotten him this far. So somebody who pays him thinks otherwise.
I guess she back in peoples good graces
STOP BEING A HATER YT
Smh Key doesn't know he's saying the same thing.
"Tell me the truth, Skip! Tell me the Truth!!" Key is so dramatic.
I heard "troof." 😆
Key told u the truth your soft asf. You don't like the truth
He's TERRIBLE!!!
@@ekstor1 me too from that will smith movie 😂
Rachel's face during part that is hilarious. She's simultaneously cringing and trying not to burst out laughing.
we are in for a front row seat for one of the biggest clownshows of all time, just need another team to draft Bronny James ahead of the Lakers for LeBron to leave the Lakers and it’ll be perfect.
And u can go right with him
Nothing will beat 2020-2022 nets
Go pack lebrons bags and glaze him while you at it.
Lebron want leave the lakers he don’t want to get up and move his family and start all over again and bronny might not even get drafted he not even a top 20 player
And then the Lakers will mire in obscurity for years to come. Just like the Lakers were before him. Fans like yourself have to understand this is a business first and foremost. Jeanie's main concern is maximizing profits just like any other business owner
Keyshawn clueless
I used to think like Keyshawn. I used to think i perform best when i prepare last minute, or no preparation at all😂😂
Done
Talk about a herd mentality - it is time...let's all unleash on ....Keyshawn 😂.
Keyshawn lookin like Eddie Winslow if he got his act together
😂😂😂on God
Keyshawn needs to shut up
So do you
he's not wrong. Players matter more than Coach ask the 2007-2010 celtics
No he is a realist
He said zero wrong
Bronsexuals easily triggered
Keyshawn is right about everything,the Lakers are trash now don't lie rob Lowe tell the truth.
Am I the only one who finds it funny that the guy who called the old players plumbers is now coaching the most historic franchise?
reread your comment again, but very slowly
Nah. Its irrelevant. Zero correlation.
You don't want the truth. You can't handle the truth.
Get Max Kellerman on the show ASAP! Ratings would go through the roof but the fox executives are too stupid to make it happen
so on point.. he and skip would be dynamic
Keyshawn is rich af.. why can’t he find a decent barber???
Can’t find a decent fit either.
😂😂😂
Actually, I don’t even know why I mentioned how rich he is, you don’t have to be rich to find a decent barber.
@@dsmith2197 worry about getting your money up instead of another man's hair lmao
A certain type of person always has the same type of haircut
Why is Keyshawn there? The only one that actually helps Skip to sound relevant.
Now you know why..
Someone has to be the "Laker" fan who is opposed to Skip's "Laker Hater". Paul Pierce is from LA but because he played his entire career for the Celtics, you can't put him that role.
@@steveknick1978keyshaun is worng on everything
To make Skip look smart.
Keyshawn actually did well this segment. He repeats but care to elaborate towards the end
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key that you?
He’s clueless
Keyshawn is annoying ASF
Keyshawn talking basketball is like beetlejuice doing math
Pelinka said what the players needed to hear ,even though what
keyshawn said is true the fans want the truth. I dont think that Pelinka can achieve both.
Dr.Buss would have never let a superstar come in and dictate the franchise.
How you know? You know him?
Magic literally went to him and told him fire the coach…buss then fired the coach
Obviously his kids aren't the same. Been a losing franchise since they took over. 4 winning seasons since 2013. 1 season with 50 wins.
Facts Dr Buss wanted to win Jeanie wants to be loved
@@BigShotKevI mean Jerry Buss was known for supporting his staff and propelling the team, where Jeanie has a history of mingling with players and stuff. Lmao. But it doesn’t matter at this point anyways
I know Rachel's bag is basketball, but I love her and Skip together. They have great chemistry and play off each other well. They could be a great duo until Rachel is ready to move on...or maybe take over for Skip 🤔
All I keep hearing is JJ is brilliant basketball mind and we sit back and watch him lose his mind this season if lebron stays😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
What has Popovich have done since Duncan left San Antonio ? His been in the loosing side
I like how Paul Pierce is nowhere near when they talk Lakers talk. He say it’s all about to Celtics right now!! 🤣🤣
Skip is letting Keyshawn pull him down.
Keyshawn actually made a good point, you can have an analytics coach but you still need good, talent players. Makes sense to me
Don’t insult math this way
Rachael knows more about the NBA than the other two combined.
She’s an analyst and reporter. Skip is a TV personality. Different roles.
She should goofy, she has been an NBA journalist and analyst for over 15yrs.
6:40 Rachels face SAYS IT ALL. Bro this dude is amazing lol
she's not getting wet... he's no jimmy b..
47 wins with a coach that the players didn’t like fr , unless everyone hates JJ in that locker room I’m pretty sure they’ll do just fine
Exactly
What's doing fine? Between 8-10th place? If so then sure.
@@LionHeart477their u go season hasn’t started yet nd your already thinking negative !!!
@@bbyflip1 Lakers ain't been good the last 3 years. Why would year 4 be any different? Cuz they got a new coach? Well they didn't get any better when darvin ham got there. The Lakers are trash!!
Keyshawn was so condescending about her point of analytics. He basically said it was because of getting great players. Not understanding many teams get great players and it doesnt work. Analytics in best shooting locations, best plays that can be run by a team. Numbers goes beyond just skills.
When Keyshawn trying to debate he just sounds like he’s whining, not even talking
Lakers future prediction:
Lakers rumors swirl around star players
Lakers waste a draft asset on Bronny
Lakers struggle to win 30 games
Pelicans get top 10 pick unprotected.
Lakers main talking point for all ESPN win lose or draw LOL
Seeing the keyman instead of Shannon is like Skip downgrading from a Porsche to a Toyota Corolla. Luckily he’s got good insurance with Rachel.
I took this off after Keyshawn started talking, Skip stop this!!!!!
Its 32 teams in the NFL and nba and all they talk about is Lakers and cowboys
Don't hate join the debate Lakers are royalty. 💛💜💜💛
They don't even have a clip of the press conference.
Reminded me of Jeff Saturday. We all know how that went.
Rachel is the best mouthpiece Lebron and Co could ever hope for. Whether it’s Bronny or JJ as the coach, she can spin better than anyone I’ve ever seen.
@CommonSense8421 She definitely was taught well!
Pat riley, Brad Steven's, Steve Kerr, Eric spoelstra
5:01 Steve Kerr won a championship in his first year without any previous coaching experience in 2014-15, although he head previously been the GM in Phoenix for three years.
Keyshawn explained some key points why JJ will not be successful. They’re not beating Boston in the next 3 years!!
Love that Racheal is on Undisputed now. Really brought a lot back to the show!
They gotta do something about keyshawn fade...its almost SAS bad....almost lol
@CommonSense8421 gotta know when to let it go big dawg
Bring in max K!
listen to keyshawn is a torture!
Yuppp when they give these guys contracts you gotta just suffer thru it until the contract is up
VERY “CRINGE-WORTHY 😬🤢🤮” !!!
don’t watch the show then , it’s a simple fix really lol
I'm here for Rachel
Key should kiss skips feet for bringing him on the show and keeping him
Man go play in traffic!
Right after Skip kisses the feet of every NBA and NFL player he built his entire career on. And I’m not a fan of either of their media skills. I’m here to hear possible new Lakers info. To use against every fan I know 👀🤨
you dumb? keyshawn is a nfl champion.
@@PetrodollarDealEndedSoWakeUpby that logic athletes should kiss the feet of every fan. it’s fan interest that makes the millionaires nothing else
Well before Paul, who was Skip popping with? Richard Sherman, Michael Irvin? At least Key brings some energy. He’s the dude people hate watch on, like Rashad McCants on Gil’s Arena.
As a long time Lakers fan, i am embarrassed. The late great Dr. Buss would be ashamed at what circus the lakers have turned into.
Also i tried defending Key, but it's time to find a replacement. It's ridiculous at this point. Shows you how good Shannon was, you can tell he studied and did his HW before starting a debate. Paul and Rachel run circles around him. And Rachel should be a permanent.
Nobody wants to play with LeBron and be a scapegoat anymore so come again
kyrie literally just came out and said he regretted leaving him so stop with them false narratives
@WopJr and you believe that? Lol
@@401hec should i believe rumors and speculation or should i believe what a grown man said out of his own mouth?
@WopJr because you didn't believe it when kyrie left?🤔
@@WopJr How long was that ago ?
I agree with what is said in the comments. Max Kellerman would be fantastic for this format.
So the Lakers don’t even have their roster filled out yet, very little trade assets and they thought it was a good idea to bring in a former player with no coaching experience especially at the collegiate level?
Keyshawn thinks the show is called the Keyshawn show.
Keyshawn is like JJ Redick as a coach... he needs more experience behind the microphone. Damn it hurts seeing him explain his opinion.
Stanley cup was last night and skip is talking about lebron and the lakers for the 9,00000,000000,00000 straight day
🤣🤣
They don’t talk about hockey
So they can’t talk about multiple subjects? lol
@@Sevenn03 that’s all they know lol
@@TJSHOTIIT SAS don’t either and actually attempted to
As always Wiley..you are 💯!!
Steve Nash flamed out in his 1st and only NBA job he'll ever have.
❤Rachel Nichols needs to host her own show
Nah
@@erniedodirty7187No worries. LOL, everyone has their opinion. I just find her exceptionally insightful on the game of basketball.
Been a laker fan since I was 7 and watched the games with my dad. Currently debating on not being a fan now because we are literally the cowboys.
Yall fans are spoiled AF. Ask us Browns fans or Detroit Lions fans what we go through. Lakers and cowboys at least have winning seasons and won chips multiple times throughout their history. Never had seasons as bad as the Browns, Lions, Pacers, Cavs (before 2016), Suns, or the Charlette Hornets.
do you know what literally means ?
@@youfellformybaittt Yk figurative language? It was a hyperbole but tbh might as well not be an over exaggeration. Our fans are fools
@@MikeBNumba6 I think it’s front office not the fans bro. I am fully on board with a rebuild
6:40 Well Keyshawn...there’s no "F" sound in the word, "TRUTH". Its pronounced TR-U-TH, not TR-OOF. If you speak for a living and want "TRUTH", that’s probably a good place to start!
First time watching a clip from this show since their first episode. Is Keyshawn always like this? Just yappin and disagreeing but not saying anything? Annoying af
Yes
He only likes black players
Oh Lord, Keyshawn!
Smh To everyone out there, Key doesn't speak for any sports fans, Lakers fans or LA residents.
Theres something to be said about being a major city Coach. In LA there’s so much going on and expectations that if they aren’t winning we can find something else to do in the meantime
I will never understand why they hired Key.
I’m a lakers fan since I was 7 years old and I’m so tired of undisputed talking about the lakers and Lebron it’s starting to get annoying 🙄
Don't listen don't be a hater
It's been annoying for years
Lakers r the Cowboys of the NBA. We talk about them all the time. To quote Keyshawn, “That’s the reality of it.”
😂lakers, of now as fakers...thank yo lequeen for becoming a laughing stock.....starting now😂, no been that way for awhile..and no one counting the damn bubble title..
What do you prefer them to talk about regarding basketball at this time?
was hoping skip was gonna spit some real sht and say jj will fail and he's not as smart as he thinks he is. but i see skip is watered down and pc now. his career ended when shannon left. he's done.
Bob and Steve deserve credit, but Mark Jackson deserves at least 1/3 of the credit for building that dynasty. It's WILD that he hasn't gotten another opportunity... then again... it's been so long that it's expected.
lmao Jerry West is rolling in his grave rn
Keyshawn is GREAT for Lakers segments💪🏾💯 yall tripping and Rachel should be here all NBA topics
1. Hire JJ Reddick
2. Sign 40 year old to a 3 year Max.
3. Draft Bronny
This is a trifecta of a Laker Circus coming next season.
That 40 year old is still better than 95% of the league so why shouldn't he get paid ?
@@perotalHe’ll be 40 next year, isn’t coachable, blame deflecting, doesn’t play defense
I recovered my TH-cam account to comply with everyone else, get Keyshawn out please.
Get max Kellerman!!!!!!
YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH! LeBron ordered the Code Red to hire JJ.
Thumbs down for Reddick being the Lakers new coach. Should've kept Ham.
my god should have kept ham!?! WAT
@@schuylerkrizay6192yeah fr. Everyone hated ham so bad. JJ had a nice press conference and is very intelligent. Let’s give him a shot before we crucify him.
Why when players are coming out saying he was never prepared and was doing things on the fly. Coaches have to be prepared and with a plan
@@schuylerkrizay6192 They made the playoffs the 2 seasons Ham was here. But hey the Lakers got to cater to LeBron I get it.
Mark Jackson or Monty Williams would have been a better hire than Reddick.
@@rustymiller9196 Mark Jackson or Monty Williams> JJ Reddick ...
Keyshawn is a fun analyst
Hope he stays on! And wish he played for our Cleveland Browns
This show still on?
Steve Kerr got a chip his fist year 😂
Keyshawn ain’t wording words right.
One thing I like about LeBron James is that he'll give you a million-dollar job even knowing you don't qualify for it, wait for you to fail, then blame you for everything and get you fired. But at least you get rich in the end.
When has he done that! Go ahead.
@@ChrisWilliams-ur7fn he approved of Darvin Ham until he disapproved of him, and got him fired. Lakers still have to pay the remaining money on his contract around (10m).
His next victim is JJ Reddick.
That's why you got LeBron
keep key on the show he keeps it funny (key)
Lakers had so many star potential players with Kobe and traded it all away for a bubble Ring. Magic Johnson we miss you
It happened with Kerr. He won in his first year of coaching.
That podcast looks to me LeBron interview JJ for coaching Lakers
This episode Shawn got me 😡
We have been paying 2 head coaches for the past 10 years that’s what makes us lakers legendary 😂😂😂
For once I agree with Keshaun it's not analytics that won the Celtic championship it's because the East was so injured this year and they could defend while Dallas could not stop anyone
Can’t believe I’m saying this, but where is Paul Pierce!?
Keyshawn is 10000% right building the roster matters more than the coach
Damn I swear we got 17x trophies 🏆 can we get the benefit of the doubt geeeez 😂
Keyshawn must have forgot that Vogel and Ham both lost the locker room and couldn’t connect with the players which is very crucial. JJ has the personality to succeed in LA and he’s being mentored by Coach K so he has great support behind him
All I can think watching this show is Jimmy Butler