A degree teaches you to use your brain, it doesn't train you for a job like an apprenticeship does. Many professionals require apprenticeship afterwards . But do Tory ministers understand this????😂
"Non of the journalists have media degrees." Maybe, just maybe if they did have media degrees our press wouldn't be so useless. I have a Bachelors in Education and a Masters in mentoring and coaching, both earned since turning 50.
Why the heck would video games development be considered as a mickey mouse degree? It’s a very lucrative career from what I gather. Isn’t the UK one of the country’s with the best video games industries? It generates a lot of money and jobs for this country.
Its such a specialised field and very difficult to find a job in the sector. I didnt go to uni , my friends did and im the only one out of my friendship group who is earning good money.
@@jackhewitt600it's very difficult to get most well paid and technical jobs. That is not an argument against education so much as for it. I went to university and earn more than my friends who didn't go to university. Our anecdotal evidence has cancelled each other out. Oh dear, where do we go from here?
Glad you are doing well. I joined the Army from school and afterwards became an Oncall FireFighter to go with my locksmithing business. Im now 50, mortgage free ,with a nice car and can work my own hours. My friends who went to Uni havent kicked on or found work in the sector they studied for and are now left with debts they will never be able pay off. Maybe it was a case of wrong place wrong time.
@@jackhewitt600 I am in your age group. All of my friends who went to Uni have no university debts left - they paid them off years ago! I have some friends who did not go to Uni who are doing well and some friends who went to Uni doing well. I don’t think your argument holds up at all. There are some professions where university is absolutely necessary and some where it is not. I wish there were more apprentice jobs where people earn university degrees whilst they are on the job so they do not acquire any debt at all. In fact I wish the government came up with a way that the jobs that need to be filled for the betterment of society ie engineering, medicine, pharmaceutical/science etc were paid by the government or industry instead of lumbering so many young people with debt.
You don't need a degree to do video games development is the point being made. No one is arguing against degrees, but rather the emphasis that is being placed on degrees, thinking it's the only way out, as such people go out and get all sorts of degrees just so they can say they have one.
We all know why, universities have been changed into businesses hence the appearance of some subjects as degrees which could otherwise be learnt through training schemes or on the job.
University Applicants aren't choosing courses in response to job market demand. What you like to study is certainly free market. But getting a job in a particular field is also free market, so a mis match there
The issue isn't the courses per se, it's the use of the word 'degree'. There is a huge difference between academic subjects and vocational ones; there's pros and cons of both for very different reasons, but the word 'degree' lumps everyone together into a good vs bad comparison. I think what the policy is really about is providing apprenticeships to fill the skills gaps we are sorely missing at the moment in the UK; because we've been hooked on cheap overseas labour for years!
Is the university a former polytechnic = bad sign Seeing universities at job fairs and needing to advertise = bad sign Not allowing you to talk to the third year students = bad sign Is there a demand for the job?
I'm 2 years in to a 4 year Masters degree in Nursing. I've worked for 10 years in healthcare, the last 4 years for the NHS. I can tell through all the hurdles I've had to jump and the financial hardship I face every single day due to the government that I am too doing a mickey mouse degree !
There is a need to a review of University courses, but freedom of choice is also a fundamental in a democracy. Thing is Latin useless, Video game design is a huge market and a huge earner for uk. Many do engineering and struggle while others do media and get jobs. The issue is the Old Polytechnic system had value but was scrapped as the people who ran them wanted University salaries.
Point is - take a degree that only top 1% can get into and obtain and you get a way better job, irrespective of subject, than if your degree is in the 10% easiest to get into and easiest to graduate from....
Some courses won’t give progression, but there are ones from college for hobbies and also for people with learning disabilities for basic home skills ect all that is important
Does he call learning "ancient Greek" like Boo Johnson did a waste of time,he became PM,hard to believe l know.Who you know NOT what you know,hence the mess GB is in
Sport and Exercise Science teaches students that become Psychologists, Physiologists, Health care professionals etc....the morons miss out the exercise part which is essential for health and well being of all humans.
How is English lit not a Mickey Mouse degree? Only rich privileged people take it so they can live more enriched privileged lives. These are not the ones that can bring a population out of financial stress.
@@kat2023.there’s a difference between learning English and getting an English degree. And there are far more English lit grads than English teacher positions.
I always see Yasmin on these programs why always spouting anti Tory nonsense when the Lefty's are elected what is she going to do no more invitations to spout nonsense
Another right winger who can't handle the truth. Also I don't think Yasmin see's the current Labour Party as that leftwing. Ask socialists how leftwing are Labour now.
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I got a Mickey Mouse degree. Helped me get a good job at the Disney Store.
A degree teaches you to use your brain, it doesn't train you for a job like an apprenticeship does.
Many professionals require apprenticeship afterwards .
But do Tory ministers understand this????😂
"Non of the journalists have media degrees." Maybe, just maybe if they did have media degrees our press wouldn't be so useless. I have a Bachelors in Education and a Masters in mentoring and coaching, both earned since turning 50.
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How many of them have a 'Classics' degree like Boris?
You are correct, this bike nonce IS useless
Why the heck would video games development be considered as a mickey mouse degree? It’s a very lucrative career from what I gather. Isn’t the UK one of the country’s with the best video games industries? It generates a lot of money and jobs for this country.
Its such a specialised field and very difficult to find a job in the sector. I didnt go to uni , my friends did and im the only one out of my friendship group who is earning good money.
@@jackhewitt600it's very difficult to get most well paid and technical jobs. That is not an argument against education so much as for it.
I went to university and earn more than my friends who didn't go to university. Our anecdotal evidence has cancelled each other out. Oh dear, where do we go from here?
Glad you are doing well. I joined the Army from school and afterwards became an Oncall FireFighter to go with my locksmithing business. Im now 50, mortgage free ,with a nice car and can work my own hours. My friends who went to Uni havent kicked on or found work in the sector they studied for and are now left with debts they will never be able pay off. Maybe it was a case of wrong place wrong time.
@@jackhewitt600 I am in your age group. All of my friends who went to Uni have no university debts left - they paid them off years ago! I have some friends who did not go to Uni who are doing well and some friends who went to Uni doing well. I don’t think your argument holds up at all. There are some professions where university is absolutely necessary and some where it is not. I wish there were more apprentice jobs where people earn university degrees whilst they are on the job so they do not acquire any debt at all. In fact I wish the government came up with a way that the jobs that need to be filled for the betterment of society ie engineering, medicine, pharmaceutical/science etc were paid by the government or industry instead of lumbering so many young people with debt.
You don't need a degree to do video games development is the point being made. No one is arguing against degrees, but rather the emphasis that is being placed on degrees, thinking it's the only way out, as such people go out and get all sorts of degrees just so they can say they have one.
Tim Montgomerie and Mickey Mouse in the same sentence. How appropriate.
We all know why, universities have been changed into businesses hence the appearance of some subjects as degrees which could otherwise be learnt through training schemes or on the job.
It appears that most Oxford University degrees are “Mickey Mouse”, especially PPE!
The freemarket disciples railing against the freemarket.
Why am I not suprised?
University Applicants aren't choosing courses in response to job market demand. What you like to study is certainly free market. But getting a job in a particular field is also free market, so a mis match there
Does that mean the Tories are going ban Classic courses like one Boris got without sitting an exam.
I guess you missed the part where they said "NO".
Music and Sound Production? It’s one of the most in demand jobs out there! How many live gigs need sound engineers
Rishi you did a PPE degree?
education should be free for everyone
The issue isn't the courses per se, it's the use of the word 'degree'. There is a huge difference between academic subjects and vocational ones; there's pros and cons of both for very different reasons, but the word 'degree' lumps everyone together into a good vs bad comparison.
I think what the policy is really about is providing apprenticeships to fill the skills gaps we are sorely missing at the moment in the UK; because we've been hooked on cheap overseas labour for years!
Is the university a former polytechnic = bad sign
Seeing universities at job fairs and needing to advertise = bad sign
Not allowing you to talk to the third year students = bad sign
Is there a demand for the job?
Vote lib Dem, green, SNP
Boris is the best liar as prime minister!
What is she on about.
Tim speaks sense.
Is Robert jenrick going to paint over them ?
If your a young person and vote Tory you must be mad.
Labour are still worse
If she knows about media studies that much. Why doesn't she use it when on this show.
A lot of the university degrees should be apprenticeships.
getting a prime ministers degree is a usless degree they dont learn a thing ask sunak hes got one
I'm 2 years in to a 4 year Masters degree in Nursing. I've worked for 10 years in healthcare, the last 4 years for the NHS. I can tell through all the hurdles I've had to jump and the financial hardship I face every single day due to the government that I am too doing a mickey mouse degree !
I agree, bring back nurses training on the wards, with theory taught in a classroom.
There is a need to a review of University courses, but freedom of choice is also a fundamental in a democracy. Thing is Latin useless, Video game design is a huge market and a huge earner for uk. Many do engineering and struggle while others do media and get jobs. The issue is the Old Polytechnic system had value but was scrapped as the people who ran them wanted University salaries.
Point is - take a degree that only top 1% can get into and obtain and you get a way better job, irrespective of subject, than if your degree is in the 10% easiest to get into and easiest to graduate from....
Some courses won’t give progression, but there are ones from college for hobbies and also for people with learning disabilities for basic home skills ect all that is important
Does he call learning "ancient Greek" like Boo Johnson did a waste of time,he became PM,hard to believe l know.Who you know NOT what you know,hence the mess GB is in
Jeremy Vine is biased every degree is worth it
Sport and Exercise Science teaches students that become Psychologists, Physiologists, Health care professionals etc....the morons miss out the exercise part which is essential for health and well being of all humans.
Not Jeremy, he's a bike nonce don't you know 😂
Gender Studies...
Jeremy Vine is a bully
And a grass
Come on kier we are all waiting for you!
to do what?
Fasten your seatbelts 😱 it's going to be a rough ride ahead..
@@barneyrubble8590can't be rougher than the ride we're currently on.
I bet vine went to university for free .
People may want to do something they enjoy.
I agree let them pay for it
How is English lit not a Mickey Mouse degree? Only rich privileged people take it so they can live more enriched privileged lives. These are not the ones that can bring a population out of financial stress.
Is this a joke?
So you don't want kids learning English at school? Where will teachers come from?
@@kat2023.there’s a difference between learning English and getting an English degree. And there are far more English lit grads than English teacher positions.
I always see Yasmin on these programs why always spouting anti Tory nonsense when the Lefty's are elected what is she going to do no more invitations to spout nonsense
do one
Good news Donald will be back in the autumn Yasmin will be distraught Great
Another right winger who can't handle the truth. Also I don't think Yasmin see's the current Labour Party as that leftwing. Ask socialists how leftwing are Labour now.
The reason all these Mickey Mouse degrees exist is to earn money from bike nones like Jeremy who clearly wants to follow in Jimmy Saville's shoes.