The Future Of The Thunder Is... Complicated.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 พ.ค. 2024
- The season is over for the OKC Thunder after a game 6 loss to the Dallas Mavericks, and they enter into an offseason in which their future is... complicated.
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May have been a blessing in disguise...
should've just gotten a png of yourself to put in the corner
my man lying, he just got a new face tattoo and it needs to heal 😏
Nobody would have judged you for crying on cam
@sportinglogically i think thunder could use a chris boucher, who would be cheap, a bruce brown, or even a jakob poeltl who is a rim defender rebounder and can play make.
I think they have a bright future. They just need to get bigger. JDub needs to run the three instead of the four.
Agree! They need a rangy guy that can shoot 3s at the 4 but they will be good
You “think”?
Somebody like Jerami Grant
Or your mom
Bro Shai is 6”6 jdub 6”5 …. I don’t even know how he’s a forward . He should be a guard
I've been telling my OKC buddies the Thunder need to get Lauri Markkanen. He would have helped them a lot in the series with the Mavericks. He shoots 40% 3-pt, 56% 2-pt, 90% on his free throws and averages 8 rebounds a game. I'd make the Jazz an offer they can't refuse for Markkanen. As much as the Jazz like Lauri, his timeline doesn't fit all that well into their rebuild, and they know it. 🤔
Yeah he is like a PJ Washington he can def, he's big and can shoot efficient in 3's and also okc needs another big
FAXXX LAURI IS PERFECT FIT
Lol. Get another streaky player that just plays into the jump ball style. It would be positive but not fix the underlying issues. It would be similar to having a Jamal Murray. Yes, you will win games. But when he goes cold, he is a huge negative.
They not getting him 😂. Okc need to draft a big man who can score and rebound . Maybe the big from Indiana Hosiers. Maybe Dj burns jr from Nc state .
Yea but Lauri is a great fit on literally every team. A 7fter who can shoot 3s and is mobile enough to adapt to any offense? But he's also too skinny to be their main defensive big. He's more of a forward. KAT may be a good one to go for if they want a superstar, depending on what happens to the wolves. Or get a defensive big like Jarrett Allen, Clackston, or another
Gordon Hayward is on the way to a minimum deal if not out of the NBA. No one is trading him for a star
Not him alone. Add players and picks to bring in a better player. Need salary to match
@@idkmybffjill9682 that's really subtracting value to a trade. You're gonna have to trade an extra pick or two just to get rid of the bad contract, let alone get a good player out of it
@@MrE_depends on the rebuilding timeline of the team he’s offered to really. If early into it, like jazz or spurs, it doesn’t really matter
His salary can be handy if they are trading for someone. He almost makes as much as SGA, which is crazy. SGA being a top 3 guy in the league and Hayward being .. somewhere in the top 100 (?)
He is underutilized though, I think he took maybe 3 shots in the entire playoffs with the few minutes he had.
Terrible trade of the season. Lost pozu and pg depth
Donovan Mitchell? Another ball dominant guard alongside SGA? That makes as much sense as the people who wanted a back court of Mitchell and Jalen Brunson.
Someone with common sense in this comment section?? Wild
That's exactly what people say when Mavs got Kyrie
@@nobnobnobnobkyrie was always a great off ball player … if he wasn’t then the Cavs would have never won
That’s why I think the lakers really got a shot at spida. A lot of teams already got guards I doubt they wanna go all in for another ball dominant guard.
Also they’d have to trade much more than Hayward and Giddey + picks for d-mitch
What a pro wants, what a pro neeedddssss
kill meeee
Whatever makes me happy
It’s a little flat
@@sideclipz5053and sets me free
90% of the time I am against young teams rushing a rebuild, but OKC doesn't need a huge trade. All people are asking them to be aggressive in getting the few small pieces they need to win a title. No one is saying trade for a star, but their inability to trade for a guy like Caruso who is paid like 9m a year and is such a help for a team is what frustrates me. They seem overly confident in a future with their big 3, that they are unwilling to be aggressive to get the pieces those guys need around them. They need more of a sense of urgency, you never know when someone might be hurt or how the luck of the NBA will flow. This is their chance and this offseason I hope they take it
They can use all their picks to get Mitchell keep their core together.
@@elderassassin9673 I doubt mitchell is the solution to their size problems
Y’all do realize okc just got good y’all act okc been good for a decade plus okc wants certain players that fit certain skill set so a lot of players people recommend, okc would not go for mainly bigs they had no need to make a trade due to it being their first year being an actual playoff team I would understand if they was in like year 3 of being a playoff team
@@Wrestle_Kingdom But they aren't just a playoff team. They are a team that ended first in the league this year. They should be able to push to be a title favorite. They have all the tools except a player or two they can easily trade for
@elderassassin9673 why tf would they get an undersized, ball dominant guard and put him next to Shai and J Dub? They need size, either a 4 or a 5 who can rebound so it's not just Chet getting bullied on the glass all game, and they need to get rid of Giddey and bring in a wing who can shoot and play defense. Maybe a backup PG as well, but that's literally all they need.
Young OKC team that is suppose to be the future of the NBA.. we have never seen this before ...
Never.... With a very dinamic guard and a unicorn of a forward/center? Never
Not 2013 okc......I think 2013? Westbrook, Durant, ibaka, harden
Jakob poeltl fits this team perfect. I was saying it months ago, I will say it again. Now.
Ousman deing, salary filler + #12 pick this year for yak + Chris bouchier. He keeps Chet fresh. Can absorb the hits down low. Then in crunch time you can go with Chet at the 5 if you are worried about yak free throws. It’s a perfect piece for okc. And he doesn’t say anything. He’s quiet and plays his part
Raptors aren't taking that trade. #12 this year is like #32 next year.
I think Deni Avdija is a great fit for this OKC team. Can defend 1-5, can shoot the 3, can playmake and rebound. Dude had like 30 double doubles this season. Would love to see how he can fit there
Me too but on an extension. We can be certain Sam and Mark know their weaknesses and will continue the plan.
Thank you, Deni would be big for OKC
@@charlescohen6140He’s on a short term contract extension I think 3y 15 mil each so its not too bad
Hadn't thought about Advija but he'd be a nice fit at PF, they still need a backup Center that is strong
@@jsports2665 ehh he's more of a sf
Lauri would be a great option for them - Giddey, Cap Filler and 1sts could potentially get the deal done. The Jazz having Giddey, Keyonte and Kessler would be a solid young trio for them
It’s a good fit for both teams, since Utah doesn’t have any tall guards, but how many firsts would it take.
Even with 2 1sts the Jazz might say no. Markannen value is an all time high right now. Giddey & a 1st wont cut it.
All that to be only the second-worst sex pest in team history.
My issue with lauri is that he is incredibly streaky. He is like a jamal murrary type. A dangerous option when on especially as the #3 option. When off he is a bigger negative.
Love the seamless fit of Giddey in Utah as a Karl Malone replacement
The issue with Giddey is that he is still one of their best playmakers. Both J-Dub and SGA are good passers, but you see the difference in how Giddey can find people, he is clearly a level above them in that department. It doesn't work as well, because of his scoring being inconsistant, but it is stuff that you cannot teach.
I think they should be able to teach him good shotmechanics and being a better defender, having so many young guys on the the team that developed both of these things. This can build his confidence and if he can improve enough, he would still be the valuable starting level player they saw in him. He is a bit behind some of the other guys in his development, but considering he is 21, he can and should grow rapidly if given the right support structure. It litteraly costs OKC nothing to let him develop as a bench option and give him another year or 2.
You right about Giddeys strengths--dont tell anybody tho--i hate okc---from seattle sonic turf--i hope presti trades him for nothing
He looked scared to even take a shot last game.Horrible on defense.Plus that shit off the court is going to follow him /stay with him for a while. He has to be moved unfortunately
@@drazzzpoppp5022 Both that stuff outside of the court and the lack of confidence in his shot, is what kept him from being a better player. We see some resilience in him at times though, it is not like he doesn't work hard, it is his mindset that needs to grow before he can grow.
I'd prefer to keep him since his value is probably lower than what he could potentially turn into on the OKC roster.
Don't they have to give giddy a contract soon
He needs to go to the spurs and go play pg okc not a fit for him
They have a very bright future, they just need to add 1 more ref.
We know the Thunder got Chet and J-Dub in the same draft. We forget about the third lottery pick they had. Ousmane Dieng was very young and considered a project. Maybe they like his development and he is the 4 they need.
I thought about this too. Can he take on the responsibility to play defense like Dort and be a 3&D player. Or come off the bench and get the opportunities
@@tonyreyes6610the problem with ous has never been defense it always been offense and rebounding he shown improvement but it hard to judge since all that was in the gleague
Tbh I think they need a bigger forward or a good 5 instead of another lengthy, lanky wing. If there’s an available player who’s a similar archetype to an Aaron Gordon or PJ Washington, they should pursue them, I just don’t know the league wide availability of such players.
Looney to Giddey
That would be ideal because theoretical version of Dieng is almost exactly what they need
That man Giddey needa go to a team like tha Heat after this one😂
He needs to go to Australia. No team needs a 6'8 guard who can't defend or shoot
@@blablablaa14Duncan Robinson.......
No thank you we are good
No but the Heat system would make him look like a stud. ie Gabe Vincent
@@thekidblack111 we aren't interested in him
The future of the young Mavs team is great!
Rookie Livelly, Luka,PJ Washington,Josh Green,....under 25 years old
Still need some others to add to this team that are a bit more consistent as well. A Lauri markanaan could be interesting
Kudos to Luka playing through a million injuries and still being as good as he is. That is one tough cookie for sure.
@@MrE_ how would the mavs do that?
PJ gonna be 26 this summer and is not locked down for long they may struggle to keep him but Green and Lively are going to be good cheap options for them the next few seasons. They have their own #1 picks next for 25 and 26 so if they can keep Kyrie happy it could be a nice run for them
I definitely think OKC could keep Giddey, he has a lot of potential considering he has been playing a new position every year of his career, if he can develop his 3 game, OKC just needs a better bench and another big along side Chet
I think the Thunder were looking at this year more as a let’s get some playoff experience for these guys kind of year. They probably did reach out for Lauri or Mikal but with the asking prices those two had, I’m not surprised they didn’t make a move. Hayward is very clearly going to be resigned to use as future salary matching in a trade. The only other move I really see in the offseason is pursuing Nic Claxton. I don’t think they want a star, they have 1 already 2 who are about to become stars. They need really solid roleplayers or borderline stars like Lauri, Mikal, or Claxton. At the end of the day, they only need 3 things. Rebounding, shot creation, and size. If they get 1-2 covered in a free agent signing, they can push Hayward, Giddey, and their truckload of picks into getting whatever they’re missing and that doesn’t necessarily have to be a big name. I think the whole league should’ve learned the mistakes of past teams in that sense by now, most especially both LA teams. Star power isn’t nearly as good as just having a solid team that meshes well.
Giddy is not a bad player and he needs the ball in his hands to be productive. He would fit into Orlando´s style and roster with his young age and length.
The future is bright!
If they get a big PF they’ll be great. Someone like Mobley next to Chet would be awesome.
And maybe a PG upgrade if Giddey does not improve.
alex sarr would be perfect
Giddey isnt the point guard Shai is the main ball handler
Laurie Mark.....
Nah they need spacing. Lauri Markannen is the move. Spend some of those picks and get him
Cavs not giving up Mobley. And Mobley gonna move to the 5
I want Steven Adams back!!
He'll be great along side Shai, J dub, Chet...
Will give us Rebounds, OR, Second chances, Great screens for guys especially for Shai and J dub, great match up for bigger bigs on opposing teams so Chet doesn't have to deal with them.
Great teammate and defensive anchor and locker room guy.
Or tho I don't know what he'll be like now considering his injury but a Steven Adams type of player is what I think we're missing.
And I just miss Steven Adams😅😂
A lot of people are wanting OKC to trade for Lauri without considering that OKC already have 3 great offensive options, they need a better connecting piece like Aaron Gordon/Jerami Grant, not another offensive option, considering everything Grant would be nice because he can be a 3 and D but also a solid offensive option if one of the 3 best in OKC are struggling in a game
We had Grant a few years back and he was so clutch for us when the roster was lookin a little lackluster post-KD. I liked him in blue a lot but he wanted a bigger contract and he got it. I think he’s too expensive for what he gives you but yeah someone with his talent and skill would be great next year
Am I wrong in saying that the Thunder could use someone with a Draymond Green skill set?
sure but only if the thunder can get another shot creator, giddey is useless off ball and idk if chet and jdub get that playmaking ability
On defense he’s perfect fit like he would for every team but idk how spacing works with Shai being very ball dominant and having Draymond spot up. Or maybe he could be use as a roll man
@@borinne7909 jdub and chet have pretty good playmaking.
Funny enough that’s kinda what they need, maybe not current Green but Green from a few years ago when he was doing it all (rebounds, play creation, defense, and decent space creating). But any team would love a player like that lmao. They’ll probably ride it out, see if Giddey could work on his 3 in the summer and be that guy for them.
yes... You are wrong.
They should be aiming to add some size. Lauri and jarett allen would be good targets for them.
Really like the markkanen idea myself, as an okc fan. Someone who has improved defensively. Has one year left on his deal I think and I think giddey, Dieng, 12, and maybe 3 future picks for a guy with one year left is solid value. Then you have SGA, Dort, JDub, Markkanen, Chet, with Joe, Wiggins, Wallace, and Williams off the bench.
u mad kyrie ballin out with the mavs and left nets high and dry
he's a bulls fan i'd imagine he doesnt like kyrie because he's a delusional diva
You* balling*
@@borinne7909he’s a nets fan. KOT4Q is a bulls fan
High and dry is one way of putting it
As a Nets fan I don’t blame him. Between the dumb covid rules and the front office being complete numb nuts it was never gonna work out. I wish him the best tho being he is my favorite player.
Top tier target- Lauri or Jarrett Allen
Second tier - Nick Claxton, Clint Capela, Jonas Valenciunis (so?), Steven Adams
Draft the best player available but if a tie, draft another big on top of trading for one
Not a Thunder fan but what I would tell Presti is simple. You once had KD Russ and Harden and thought you would dominate for the next decade. So do not sit around with all those picks.
Not the same but understand the comparison
Well what you're leaving out is Presti inexplicably traded Harden instead of amnestying Perkins lmfao
Yah it's only the same if he trades jdub away for klay Thompson
They also had ibaka the perfect defensive role player
Giddy will have to run a offense. He had a lot of triple doubles when sga was out. IDK where he could go and the thunder get something useful back. But he could definitely be a great true point guard with rebounding
To the pelicans
Watching this video makes me love Derrick jones jr even more
To be fair, Lively has Tyson Chandler as his personal trainer. Out hustled Chet the entire game.
As okc fan, most fans need to lower their expectations for what okc will do in the off season. At the deadline I was telling fans that okc was not going to be do anything big then they was shocked when I was right same with the draft every year people keep Mocking okc to draft a traditional big and I keep saying they won’t and I keep being right
Okc mostly likely going to use their pick and then extend joe and Giddey and maybe make a small trade but nothing major that the most realistic option,also not saying okc would never go for a traditional big but I think it very unlikely due to what they look for in players and their entire sachem in base on chet being the 5 which what okc wants
Pretty much yeah. I wouldn't be surprised to see them just draft more guards and get no bigs. I'll let Presti do his job! No suggestions here
We need another big desperately, even if it’s just Drummond or someone similar to that build
Solid video. You hit a lot of great points. Idk if you’ve watched any of Sam Presti’s interviews before, but he’s been on record of saying this team is ahead of schedule and that they aren’t going to accelerate this thing, which is why I think they brought Hayward in at the deadline. A lot of outside people don’t realize that he made it very clear he wanted to evaluate this specific group before making any crazy moves. I think it’s inevitable that Giddey is gone this off-season. Like you said, I think there is a great chance they roll this squad out again next year, plus whoever they get in the draft (hopefully Cody Williams). I don’t think Tobias is the answer for this squad, but there is no way to predict what Presti might do to address the front court situation. Gonna be interesting to see with all of the options he has!
Some kind of Giddey/Kuzma swap makes a lot of sense to me
This is why you're not an NBA gm lmaooo
OKC doesn't want a NAME veteran player to mess up their chemistry. A young BIG who can rebound, RUN and shoot decently would work!
They have 13 tradable firsts and 20 2nds over the next 7 years. They can also add 3 first round pick swaps to that package. They could literally trade for nearly ANY player they choose, maybe even 2 or 3.
Giddey and maybe another player to match salary for Kuzma. Giddey could be the PG that the Wizards need and Kuzma can be that 4th option that could go for 20-25 ppg some nights for them.
I'd like to see OKC get Laurie Markenen and Jarrett Allen.
Josh Giddey's season ended just in time for school to let out for the summer.
does anybody knowwhat the thing in the key is on Dallas Homecourt?
I'm fine with OKC not making a move at the deadline anyway. It's easy to forget that the trade deadline held no value. The Bulls didn't even have a high asking price for Zach Lavine, and they STILL couldn't move him. NY getting Anunoby and Dallas getting two bigs were the only significant moves (at the time and in hindsight.)
You could argue keeping Giddey and developing him in a 6th man role would work, but he's probably a pretty decent trade piece that could bring in some help (i.e. another legit big to pair with Chet.)
I remember OKC had Durant, Westbrook, Harden, Jackson, Adams, Ibaka, and couldn't keep them together it been interesting if they can keep this core together they played 10 guys in that series against Dallas they very deep lot of talent there.
Thunder just need to not be stupid like the suns were. Keep their young core together and they will thrive for years to come.
I hope the Spurs like Giddey as a player to be their PG
No they don't... We need PG who can shoot from 3. We already have plenty of "20% from 3" players. And none of them beat their wife.
Edit : he did not beat his wife, he had trouble regarding a minor, without further "complication" (sorry don't have the english word) from the police
@@lecoolpotager6670 what's with the wife beating? The kid is 21. I don't think he's married. Maybe you got the wrong guy?
@@lecoolpotager6670giddey isn’t married and never beat up anyone. Tf you talking about😂
@@lecoolpotager6670 i think you mean that he's P Giddey, the Diddler of OKC
I'd like this move for the Spurs. Add to the Wemby/Chet SA/OKC rivalry. Add a guy with that Manu passing ability. Take advantage of the thunder making a lateral shake up kinda dump.
I think they're ahead of schedule by like a year maybe 2. They probably wanted to use a lot of those picks and find the gems, but now I think they're gonna package some to bring in help where they think they need it. SGA popping and Chet so good straight away are what's gonna force them to move some picks to bolster their bench and add to the starters.
Man, imagine if the NBA stepped in to sabotage the Thunder's rebuild like they did to the 76ers.
Top players to put the OKC over the top:
1. Kevin Durant. Dependable veteran, Chris Paul like trade, while not the “mentor” type if OKC’s core absorb even a fraction of his skill it’s worth it.
2. Alperen Sengun. Might cost more picks than they’re willing to let go of but a young 5 that can create both makes them bigger and alleviates their point guard problem. I genuinely don’t think the NBA is ready for a Chet-Alpy 2 man game. They’d still need a PG.
3. Lauri Markonnen. Crazy athletic, high IQ player whose play style already matches the Thunder. He could be to Jalen Williams what Jaylen Brown is to Jayson Tatum.
Would KD really go back?
@@Chris-de2qc YES
OKC wont trade Giddey, he is too valuable when SGA/Dub is injured, and he improved so much this season. His handle is tighter, his defense is improved. He still has so much upside, and the only players really better than him are max contract players that will cause problems when resigning their kids. He will come back with a shot and improved post game, and the fit wont be a problem. Dieng was MVP of the G-League Finals, he is perfect to come in and fit OKC style. Big 3 and D wing/forward, with handles.
What a magical season! I think that this season was still a, let's see what we got, no expectations season. Hence the no major moves. Also Presti is probably the best GM in the league and has learned from his mistakes in the past. Making major moves out of desperation has not paid off. I think they'll keep this core together and add 1 vet piece in the offseason. Probably a big man. Would love to see a young piece like Jonathon Isaac as well. I don't think they'll trade Giddey. He's part of the original young core. This team is special partly because of their closeness, once you trade a piece like that you really risk losing that magic. He was an important piece last year when he was a point of attack initiator, maybe Mark can find that strategy again. If they do trade him I'd love to see him go to someone like Washington or San Antonio. At the end of the day they just lacked the experience in the playoffs and now they have it.
Is the small ball finally going to fall out. Not every team has steph curry. But yeah they need a bigger four no doubt. Hopefully the team will mesh with whoever they bring in to replace dort.
The lineup of athletic guards and wings is fun, but when we’re running JDub, who is essentially a combo guard, at power forward, the lack of rebounding and size was eventually gonna catch up to us
Alf Simmons (Portland) trade for Giddey and 2 picks. Or Lauri (Utah) giddey and 3 picks. Would be the exact fits that OKC need. Simmons is a great scorer and doesn’t need the ball much. Lauri is great fit overall, us OKC fans been praying for!
Tobias Harris was a bizarre mention
I really don’t know what’s the plan for the thunder next year
Bro... all we need is a couple guys that can rebound and maybe shoot decent enough.
Josh should have been the sixth man. The PG off the bench and when they stagger slots, let SGA play the 2 besides Josh when they let SGA run with the bench. That’s his best role when he has the ball in his hands making plays. He won’t be able to flourish starting
The thunder are in a very similar place to the Celtics a few years ago. They should only give up big assets for the perfect fit (imo Lauri) anything else isn’t worth it and they should just bet on development from one more of their young guys. People were saying years ago that the Celtics should trade all their picks and jb for pg. look how that worked out for Boston. Those picks eventually turned into Derrick white and jrue holiday. The thunder aren’t in the spot to go all in on win now yet but the average fan isn’t patient enough to see that
they need lauri from the jazz. brings size rebounding next to chet, and brings shooting ass well. perfect fit
A low cost high return trade id like to see from okc is bringing back Steven Adams. He projects to be a bench player at the rockets so I doubt the price would be high. He gives them a big to play next to chet that won't require touches when matchups call for it and he won't be worried If there are matchups that don't get him on the court much. He's a team first culture guy that loves OKC and the fan base loves him. Bring back Steve-o
Deni Avdija is one off the missing pieces.
Thunder fan here. Sam has said his plan has been to see what the current team could do in the playoffs. Find strengths and weaknesses simultaneously. Obviously size is an issue. It was Chet’s first year playing. I think moves will be made just don’t which ones.
Run it back another season. No matter what anyone says. They have to run it back
No video on the Mavs alr
Lauri Markannen or Evan Mobley should be their target
Jarrett Allan makes sense, if garland is wanting a trade he would be a good pick up, young and can be a 2nd option on offense
If the thunder could redo their trade with Charlotte, probably should have sent Giddey and kept Tre Mann.
Only reason why cuz he was small still a lost lost in both scenarios but mann would’ve performed better offensively no doubt
Mann would not have help at all the reason they traded him was because he wasn’t that good in the minutes he played plus in order for him to be effective he needs the ball similar to giddey just because he played well in Charlotte doesn’t mean he would have done the same in okc playing for a playoff team and a lottery team is different
If anything Josh’s size helps 😂
yall deadass delusional thinking tre mann getting minutes in the playoffs😭😭
They could consider using Giddey a bit more as how Dyson Daniels is used offensively, just handle the ball well, make great passes and use the threat of scoring close to the basket with floaters, layups and lob passes. If he can develop defensively and slowly improve his shot, he can still be providing a decent part of the offense.
I could see a lauri markanen trade happening , I think that may work and chet could stay at the 5 then , don't know how much it improves the defense bit certainly gives more height !
Okc is SGA and a bunch of good role players. Wolves, Nuggets, Rockets, Memphis, and Mavs have brighter outlooks because they have more players who can generate offense. Okc may have gotten too good too soon. They've never been a free agent destination because of their market which means they have to build through the draft or hope someone wants to come there via trade that will stay. I honestly don't think their future is as bright as some may think for that reason. They need to move williams and or dort for something now. Small market teams have to move differently
Would like to see OKC being aggressive to get Mobley or Lauri Markunen or Alex Sarr
or giannis right lol
Giannis would be insane 😅 the team would be unstoppable
@@1340jesse cap space
Cavs ain’t Giving up Mobley
how you getting mobley lol?
They have an excellent young core that they can build off of. They have to part ways with giddey and aquire 1 or 2 pure shooters, another wing and a true big man.
I think a great option for OKC is to trade 1st round picks to JAZZ for Sexton & Kessler. Fills in both positions they need to upgrade.
New starting lineup:
SGA, Sexton, Chet, J Williams, Kessler.
I lowkey think Isaiah Stewart is a great fit for them. Brings toughness, physicality, and rebounding while still keeping the fast paced 5-out offense with Chet at the 5. I also think Jdub is better suited at the 3
Wow! There are very few fan bases that would love to have a team like that. Most important thing is they all got playoff Experience! Learned how hard it is to win the father you go. Something that you can't teach. I hope they don't do something drastic. I don't believe they will. Let it Ride!! Just add a couple of vets.
hartstien would be perfect for this team & giddy need to be sent to the nets
Knicks are not letting him go. No way in hell
@@blablablaa14 He's an unrestricted free agent, so they don't have a choice if OKC pays more. That said, he took exactly 3 shots from 3pt range this season, so he doesn't work.
@@hestilllives192 OKC isn't outbidding the knicks and Hartenstein LOVES their team and style and the face NY gave him a chance. He is not leaving NY, there is zero percent chance. Every team would want him but the Knicks will pay what they need to keep him for sure. People forget the Knicks are one of the only teams that can go super high in salary and not care at all
@@blablablaa14but they also have to pay for og which restricts them from paying him what ever he wants
@@blablablaa14 You are only right in that he isn't really a fit in OKC. The Knicks can't keep him if someone with Cap really wants him without a crazy tax bill; they are already at the luxury tax when they resign OG (unless they drop Bojan, which I doubt). Add to that, them likely wanting to keep Precious, and they could easily find themselves in the Warriors/Clippers bracket for $150m tax bill. They haven't spent in the tax since 2014, but maybe they'd be willing to.
J-Dub needs to play the 3 & Shai needs to play the 2, they need a playmaker that can hit the 3 in high screen in roll to open things up & some size as well
An interesting idea they could throw picks at Atlanta to pick sarr and that alleviates the salary cap problems with bringing in an established player.
The the Refs by their side. The future is always bright.
I don't think it's complicated, my bro. They're all very young and they just had their best year. There Future is bright my dude And it's only the beginning
Magic, Thunder, Heat, Knicks, GSW…
All in the Isaiah Hartenstein sweepstakes.
Is Giannis going to want out of Milwaukee soon? Do the Lakers Blow up and get rid of AD if Bron leaves/retires? They have the capacity to wait on something like this to get the perfect piece for them. Or Presti can just push forward with what they've got. I actually liked what I saw in the playoffs; Shai proved he wasn't fools gold and everyone else who's important is a rookie/sophomore, and the playoffs is about experience. It's option city for OKC
I. Hart would be great for them.
I think they need a legit backup pg and then either an upgrade at pg, guard or wing(depending on how/where they see Shai and JDub - are they pg and sg, pg and sf, sg and sf, etc) and then a big. One good enough to start with Chet at the 4 or sit if they play small, as well as give Chet rest while JWill keeps improving.
Okc should get bol bol, a jalen Johnson, Deni avidja they’d fit in the system
Isaiah Hartenstein is a free agent and only made $9.2 million this season. He just turned 26 years old. OKC has so much cap space they've got to get a guy like Hartenstein while so many players are on rookie contracts. Hartenstein played 75 regular season games last season and 82 the season before.
As we know the policy there is to be close to the max salary limit in the future, so they will probably look for bargains in the trade market, meaning players with 3-4 years contract with low salary and high ceiling.
Thunder should throw a ton at the Jazz and overpay for Markannen and give them an offer that’s too good to pass up. Cause that dude is a missing piece for them. Thunder could give them Giddy, Wallace, Kendrich Williams, and like 4 or 5 picks and still have a ton of firsts for the next several years. Overpaying for an allstar caliber player that’s a perfect fit seems worth it in this case
OKC needs 7-footer with strong frame (chet to fragile, jaylin too small). There are such players in the 24 draft. They can draft someone like that, or trade at the draft. Adding some picks.
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I wouldn’t be surprised if they try to see about Malik Monk or Eric Gordon this offseason to improve the scoring
I wonder if the answer to these problems is in the draft. Maybe the team thinks Sarr or Cooper Flagg or maybe even someone else the last piece they need
I think if you look at the team that beat them, the Mavs you see what they need to do. Get some actual Big men to back up Chet and an actual PF. They really just need some rim runners and guys who can play D. That will cost them around 12 - 24 million a year, but Gordon H. was being paid 30 million this year to ride the bench.
Chet needs to stay at center and beef up. Their defense is great because they have a super athletic center.
Overall size and fits with chet? What does that mean. Okc has assets picks and money. Young players and only 1 ball. Gotta be something they need
I wish they would trade up in the draft to get Dalton Knecht. He would fit in really well with what they do. He is an incredible scorer and his defense is better than he gets credit for
OKC needs to see what Brad Stevens did after taking over for Danny Ainge. Ainge did great at drafting a lot of young talent and stock piling draft picks but he was too hesitant to make win now moves and let go of picks. Stevens took over and got rid of the FRP and added Dwhite, Jrue HOliday, got Horford back, and traded for Porzingis.
Interesting for their future. Maybe Lauri for another scorer or if you want go big, get Jarett Allen or Clint Capela. I think 1-2 more impact role players and this team next season will be great 🙌👍
I think OKC could use a C on decent contract. J Poeltl could be a fit on $19.5 mil per for 3 years. This saves Chet and is a great fit with Chet at 4 and he only has to play 5-6 mpg at C. I think Josh G and Cason W or Josh G + 12th pick 2024 and GSW second in 2026 gets it done Both moves keep cap flexibility.
At the end of the day this year turned to "let's wait and see.". There was no reality where this team won the championship, so why would they take a risk by trading in the regular season? Sam Presti and the Thunder got exactly what they needed in these playoff games. A good look at real weaknesses, weaknesses that can only be revealed in the playoffs with a microscopic intensity.
If I’m okc my entire offseason revolves around the hawks. I either see if they are willing to trade away trae young and give up about 3 first (it’s not like they need them) or if they aren’t I offer about 3 future first for the 1st pick and try and grab Starr
I think a good move they could make for a front court player would be trade up in the draft and take Clingan.
If they wanna be contenders, OKC has to get a power forward with power. Gafford, Lively and Washington literally beat up Chet and Giddy on the boards. Chet is not a consistent double figure rebounder therefore, IMHO they need to look at signing OG Anunoby, Tobias Harris, Achiuwa, Saddiq Bey, or Miles Bridges because, they're all free agents. Another solution is to make a trade for a real power forward.
i heard tobias harris and i visibly winced in public