History of racism: A French taboo

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  • As protests against racial prejudice continue across the world, we look at how discrimination and xenophobia materialise in specific ways in France. We begin with a look back at the history of this French taboo. Next, we take a look at police violence and how some current and former officers have started speaking out. Lastly, we speak to activist and Professor Maboula Soumahoro, who looks at why language and republican ideals add an extra level of complexity to the issue.
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ความคิดเห็น • 205

  • @vanessak.allmon2894
    @vanessak.allmon2894 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I am surprised that the French aren't saying in their defense, "we loved Josephine Baker so how could we be racist?"

    • @lepetitchat123
      @lepetitchat123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What’s the reason they accepted baker and James Balwin?

  • @bored-in-the-house3950
    @bored-in-the-house3950 3 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    Taboo? They openly love their racism

    • @emiliospowerballer1441
      @emiliospowerballer1441 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      and so do most western nations

    • @jamescampbell121
      @jamescampbell121 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m french and france should be for whites only

    • @s.m.g.2166
      @s.m.g.2166 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bwahahaha no they don't you racist!!!

    • @shakur4648
      @shakur4648 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@emiliospowerballer1441 doesn't make it right

    • @puccaland
      @puccaland 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And they love racism how?

  • @RaidenGuru
    @RaidenGuru 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    I experienced racism as a tourist, just WTF.

    • @bjrgaa9020
      @bjrgaa9020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      What happened ?

    • @daf1678
      @daf1678 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Same😂

    • @olelain
      @olelain 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not racism. It's just a normal behaviour with an idiot like yourself. Do you really think France could be the most visited country in the world if french were racists ?

    • @RaidenGuru
      @RaidenGuru 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@olelain You begotten race. Are you here to teach me what's the difference between this and that?
      Moreover, tourists don't visit the country because of its people.

    • @olelain
      @olelain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RaidenGuru I'm far from teaching the truth to the others, unlike visibly yourself

  • @sigma8112
    @sigma8112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    Liberté, Égalité et Fraternité - is the biggest hypocrisy in the world

    • @sergpie
      @sergpie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @Anon Anon
      Then why is there still slavery in Africa and in Muslim countries to this day? There's basically a highway of speedboats between Tunisia and Italy (never successfully held colonies, btw) where a bunch of North Africans are making bank off sending future debt-slaves (or in yesterday's case, terrorists) into societies they have no business in after essentially paying for a $5000 Uber to escape non-existent conflict....
      The western nations were the first to abolish slavery. It took the rest of the world to get with it. What color do you think the first seller of slaves to the colonists was, may I ask? ;]

    • @Venezolano410
      @Venezolano410 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The biggest hypocrisy in the world is the USA's Constitution.

    • @Venezolano410
      @Venezolano410 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Alex Cyriac
      Sergpie is speaking the bitter truth.

    • @YK36Deadezio
      @YK36Deadezio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Harlem Hell Figther and Eugene Bullard...

    • @jamesbedugraham8056
      @jamesbedugraham8056 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sergpie he was a white man.

  • @billjenkins2503
    @billjenkins2503 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    France needs to admit that the large amount of immigrants from strikingly different cultures have caused a culture clash that they didnt plan for in their education, job, housing budgets. They need to bring in immigrants into every sphere of the country(performing arts, science, military, education, etc). Socialization into French culture is a process that usually takes 2-3 generations to achieve in most countries. Every school from grade 1 to colleges should provide education about French history and culture.

    • @CreamCobblerFiend
      @CreamCobblerFiend 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The people native to Europe are entitled to their own identities and communities.

    • @rubylicious1024
      @rubylicious1024 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@CreamCobblerFiendso are they going to leave, their colonial parts and past behind? and let the occupied lands and the natives, to have their own identities and communities?

  • @Wheelieblue
    @Wheelieblue 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wow, Maboula was so succinct and interesting to listen to. I've spent a lot of time in Paris. Funnily enough, my first experiences beyond holidays as a child were in the area this interview took place. It had such a positive effect on me. I learnt French and kept coming back year after year. I'm a white male from the uk who had a long term relationship with an arabic woman from Paris originally from North Africa. Her family, friends and everyone were all kind to me. It was one of the best times of my life actually. I only once experienced a remotely racial incident towards myself for dating her by a drunk passer-by. It meant nothing to me but a lot to her. Be kind to each other. We don't all mean to harm one another :)

  • @starchild24
    @starchild24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Soumahoro just addressed France's - or to be more precise the 5th republic's' - main issue very clearly. To fix a problem, you have to acknowledge there is a problem in the first place. And as long as it's colonial and collaborationist past won't be aknowledged they won't be able to move forward and fix the issues that stem from that.

    • @puccaland
      @puccaland 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You're living in 1950 or what? The colonial and collaborationist past has been acknowledged decades ago.

  • @kokorot17
    @kokorot17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    i studied and lived in Germany for 7 years, never had a contact with police. I go on a road trip through France Alzace , the very second day stopped by Police for no reason, maybe driving while looking like a middle eastern, they check my papers and call somebody, 15 mins laterthey let me be without thank you or apology, pure rudeness and arrogance! we know in Germany how arrogant they are!

    • @shinobi2119
      @shinobi2119 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can't blame them. Your people cause a lot of trouble in Western countries.

  • @romandarius6041
    @romandarius6041 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    A young African Boy asked his mother which soccer team he should support?
    Why you support any team from Africa! You are African! Take Pride in your Race, Culture, and your history!
    But, mommy, i can't tell the African Teams from the French Team.

  • @allcatall3931
    @allcatall3931 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    had there been no major colonialism, there'd be no major immigration, and few if any local xenophobic reactions..

  • @ibrahimadiop7074
    @ibrahimadiop7074 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    That African lady is a very Smart woman

    • @pmurrTEST
      @pmurrTEST 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Soumahoro? She's French.

    • @ibrahimadiop7074
      @ibrahimadiop7074 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Peter Murray she’s african🧐. She’s from Africa

    • @pmurrTEST
      @pmurrTEST 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ibrahimadiop7074 Haha - she's French!!!! What a country.....that France.....

    • @gzggvgfhcxy9755
      @gzggvgfhcxy9755 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sge is black not african maybe she is French

    • @ibrahimadiop7074
      @ibrahimadiop7074 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gzggvgfhcxy9755 she’s African. Look at her last name

  • @finz9982
    @finz9982 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.”
    (1 Samuel 15:3)

  • @tudormiller887
    @tudormiller887 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Unfortunately it's no different from racism and antisemitism here in the UK, and many other Western countries.

  • @MB-ns2cs
    @MB-ns2cs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I love my black brothers and sisters in humanity! Black Lives Matter!

    • @babalarassrah
      @babalarassrah 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      they dont like you

    • @MB-ns2cs
      @MB-ns2cs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@babalarassrah Are you talking on behalf of all black people?! I don't think they would appreciate you for doing so. I was talking for myself only and you are arrogant enough to talk on behalf of whole race...

    • @babalarassrah
      @babalarassrah 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ça pue du cul

    • @gtaylor3284
      @gtaylor3284 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@babalarassrah ferme ta gueule

    • @babalarassrah
      @babalarassrah 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gtaylor3284 signalé pour le roi des hmars frenchies

  • @francoislechanceux5818
    @francoislechanceux5818 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's "hands off my buddy" as my friend or pal. Not "my body". "Touche pas à mon pote" = "Don't touch my pal".

  • @Gomes719
    @Gomes719 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Stuff like that’s can happen anywhere in the world uk USA and rest of Europe

    • @arnoackermann6584
      @arnoackermann6584 ปีที่แล้ว

      And even if true that makes it ok? And I doubt that it is correct. With this severity this is not happening in Germany for example.

    • @dangercat9188
      @dangercat9188 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As a Hispanic American, I feel like I'd get more discriminated in Europe than here. America isn't as bad as foreigners and the media like to make it seem. I think I'd get discriminated because I look a little bit MENA and I know how Europeans treat them. Also, here in the states, people aren't afraid to speak up against racism. In Europe, they just ignore and pretend like it's not a problem.

  • @filipportman5981
    @filipportman5981 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Nowadays being a racist is a pride. We live in an inverted world.

    • @basedness5205
      @basedness5205 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      WTF ,pride for who, if it's being prosecuted on every step?

  • @theloyalsytopio
    @theloyalsytopio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    just when is the people word raciste going to understand what there doing is really bad to other

  • @georgeyorgos5409
    @georgeyorgos5409 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    it is in fact a very sensible topic in EU this racist discussion. Some countries dont even want to hear this about and when the topic rises they leave the chat. The problem is inheritly like the old proverb "you reap what you saw". Cheap labor is not the solution for future but it raises the capital of the country. In short, we can slave you imigrants but you need to accept it, otherwise you go back. And thats how France recovered after WW2.

  • @CambreyGoG
    @CambreyGoG 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Poor little innocent victims

  • @megoyamle7
    @megoyamle7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh, you should see Quebec? not surprised.

  • @deeallen1526
    @deeallen1526 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The afro french are not on social media much. It's hard to find them. I can find the afro brits easily.

  • @alexzimmermann7301
    @alexzimmermann7301 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Disgusting

  • @2what744
    @2what744 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Is France a Good place to visit as a tourist ?? Or is it dangueres?

    • @pmurrTEST
      @pmurrTEST 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Very, very safe. Although I did visit Saint Denis and there were some kids following us to steal something but you just face them and they go away. I'm from Baltimore where I've been mugged 3 times and apartment broken into once. I don't know anyone in France who has been mugged.

    • @hank4920
      @hank4920 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Like everywhere you'll be more safe in small cities. French Provence is calm, beautiful and safe.

    • @mistalion1
      @mistalion1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      unless you visit backstreets

    • @FloweijFR
      @FloweijFR 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What ?

    • @dustinalecxander8647
      @dustinalecxander8647 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pmurrTEST Arthur?

  • @ting111111
    @ting111111 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I think i'm in love with Nadia.

  • @jerome5ify
    @jerome5ify 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Cry me a river

  • @808Efe
    @808Efe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why are you french?

  • @giovannichao4154
    @giovannichao4154 ปีที่แล้ว

    They they really just reference the term BIPOC when white anglos are indigenous to France 😂

  • @D0GGy333
    @D0GGy333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Aucune leçon à recevoir des rosbeefs

    • @samrevlej9331
      @samrevlej9331 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      C'est une chaîne française, abruti.

    • @D0GGy333
      @D0GGy333 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@samrevlej9331 Avec une analyse anglo-saxonne, abruti.

    • @samrevlej9331
      @samrevlej9331 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@D0GGy333 C'est quoi une "analyse anglo-saxonne", cuistre ? Le KKK aussi a une analyse "anglo-saxonne" sur la question, mais je pense pas qu'ils likent et partagent la vidéo.
      En plus on ne connaît pas la nationalité de la journaliste, si ça se trouve elle est française bi-nationale. Puis c'est une universitaire française avec qui elle discute.
      Tu peux ne pas être d'accord, mais essayer de disqualifier en disant que c'est une analyse "étrangère" est débile. Et me sort pas un laïus sur les "théories américaines qui envahissent la France", les intellectuels français réfléchissent à ces questions depuis les années 80, et la plupart des philosophes déconstructionnistes et post-structuralistes français ont alimenté la réflexion aux USA sur les questions d'identité.

    • @mehdimeziri
      @mehdimeziri 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zzzzzz

    • @bonzo1868
      @bonzo1868 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Merci d'avoir confirmer le message de cette vidéo

  • @Younniour
    @Younniour ปีที่แล้ว

    #Defund#FrenchPolice

  • @toobalkain
    @toobalkain 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the woman has a point, there is no racism if races keep apart. Self-segregation is what people prefer to do if left to their own devices anyway, why force race mixing on them?

  • @ivx8345
    @ivx8345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nice and easy and especially SAFE namecalling from the sidelines. If you endure and encounter the problems these policemen and women face EVERY DAY you'll be crying for your mama.
    Police hating on certain groups just "because"? Or could it be they are weary after 100+ experiences with people who have something in common?

    • @mehdimeziri
      @mehdimeziri 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zzzzzzzz

    • @pinchebruha405
      @pinchebruha405 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh nobody can talk about that

  • @philipcoriolis6614
    @philipcoriolis6614 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Racism is everywhere on Earth. Why would France be different? Is Africa free of racial prejudice ? Is there a country on Earth free of racial prejudice ?

    • @livingfinance
      @livingfinance 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Which racial prejudice have Africans subjected others to?

    • @philipcoriolis6614
      @philipcoriolis6614 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@livingfinance Isn't colorism a form of racism ?

    • @livingfinance
      @livingfinance 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@philipcoriolis6614 What is the origin of colorism? I am presuming that we are talking about racism that africans subject non-africans/nonblack.

    • @philipcoriolis6614
      @philipcoriolis6614 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@livingfinance And when the tribes captured and sold each other to the Arabs and to the Whites ?

    • @philipcoriolis6614
      @philipcoriolis6614 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@livingfinance Do Africans like Chinese people ?

  • @xiaomiaccount5191
    @xiaomiaccount5191 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    😂😂😂😂

  • @catalan-nyc6633
    @catalan-nyc6633 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love your channel but please, out of all the lecturers you could have invited on this issue, you chose the most extreme with Ms Soumahoro. There are many minorities who love their country and could talk about racism within it, but France 24 immediately going to the most extreme discourse. Why not talk to professor Reuben Valery, for instance? Your report was rushed and left out so much material. Yellow card to you guys!

    • @coquelicotrouge2631
      @coquelicotrouge2631 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      and red card to you

    • @pmurrTEST
      @pmurrTEST 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Do you disagree with anything she said? She was absolutely spot on.

    • @catalan-nyc6633
      @catalan-nyc6633 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@pmurrTEST Ms Soumahoro is an extremist. Her views are highly criticized and contested. She is not representative of the majority of the French (of any color). If France 24 wanted to interview her, they should have added other minorities like
      Tania de Montaigne or Fatiha Agag-Boudjahlat for a more balanced and complete report. By placing her on a pedestal like they did, they give her way too much credit and legitimacy and consequently skewed the debate.

    • @pmurrTEST
      @pmurrTEST 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@catalan-nyc6633 Well I must be an extremist too because I thought she expressed herself very eloquently and characterized perfectly the failings of France's approach to race. I, for one, will allow her to represent me (an American of color). Was there anything she said in this interview that you disagreed with?

    • @catalan-nyc6633
      @catalan-nyc6633 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@pmurrTEST There are many intellectuals of color in France who do not share her views. Unfortunately, their lack of english prevents their word from getting out beyond the french speaking world. France 24 should have giving an opportunity to her opponents to speak their mind as well; as people of color do not all think the same thing and are not reflected by one person only.

  • @menolarose
    @menolarose 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Y a pas un jour ou ils arrêtent de chouiner? Incroyable ce niveau de fragilité.

    • @coquelicotrouge2631
      @coquelicotrouge2631 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      à part toi personne ne chouine là

    • @pmurrTEST
      @pmurrTEST 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Because systemic racism isn't something we should talk about? Oh right, she said that the French would say that. Incroyable indeed.

    • @pmurrTEST
      @pmurrTEST 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@coquelicotrouge2631 praout is probably a spoiled white girl who doesn't actually know any black people and thinks women wearing veils is stupid. i had a French girl stay with us for a while and she didn't like bacon-wrapped scallops because the scallops are so "delicate" and the bacon just ruins the taste. she was wrong too. bacon. is. never. wrong. that's like praout. she lives in a made up, fantasy world.

    • @livingfinance
      @livingfinance 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Le pays des greves, et de beau parleurs parlent de chouiner, trop drôle.

  • @philipcoriolis6614
    @philipcoriolis6614 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    May be religious incompatibility is more accurate a description.